Time to re-stock the freezer. I was perusing the Publix weekly ad.
Nothing much in the way of beef on sale. I decided to dig beyond and
look at what else is available in the meat department. According to
their web site.

I've never liked the term "flap steak". Nor the term "skirt steak". I
know exactly what they're used for - fajitas. That sort of meat
requires a lot of marinating and tenderizing.

In any event, the web site can't tell you the price of these pieces of
tough meat. But yes, they have lots of different cuts available.

I am looking for some nice *tender* tenderloin filets. I like
porterhouse steaks but really don't want to contend with cutting steaks
off the bone.

Oh yes, just found prime filets! For actual prime, I have to buy vacuum
packed named branded ones... but they're prime, not choice. You know
this means XX dollars. Ditto the rib-eyes.

How often do you use your grocery store's web site to see what is
available before you make a shopping list?

Jill

Jill, I never check a website for sales...the grocery I use most of the time mails sale flyers every
week. Plus, being the only person I feed, and having no freezer besides what is contained within, I
have no need to "stock up." I like having a flyer in my hand so I can check through it at my
leisure.

That supermarket has an "Aisles Online" feature. That means I can either have a shopper choose
Groceries that I ask for on my order (along with specific instructions for each item if needed), and I can
pick them up in the Sri E-up lane (without getting out of my car), or have the shopper choose and then
the store delivers within an hour time-frame that I specify.

There is a very small fee for each service if the order is less than $100, so I usually send an order
when I can spend that amount.

Both shopping services are a blessing as I can't do a lot of walking. Having them delivered is the best
because the delivery lad brings them upstairs (half a flight), and there are often heavy items, like
water for my Keurig and cases of drinking water. I always tip the delivery person, though they aren't
allowed to accept tips at the store.

The shoppers at thethat do this for me know me pretty well, so they know what to expect in my choices. But
even if they didn't, one can specify...after each selection...any special instructions, plus whether a substitute
(one can say what the substitute can be, or not) is acceptable if the item listed is out of stock.

On 5/27/2018 6:26 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Jill, I never check a website for sales...the grocery I use most of the time mails sale flyers every
> week. Plus, being the only person I feed, and having no freezer besides what is contained within, I
> have no need to "stock up." I like having a flyer in my hand so I can check through it at my
> leisure.
>
> That supermarket has an "Aisles Online" feature. That means I can either have a shopper choose
> Groceries that I ask for on my order (along with specific instructions for each item if needed), and I can
> pick them up in the Sri E-up lane (without getting out of my car), or have the shopper choose and then
> the store delivers within an hour time-frame that I specify.
>
> There is a very small fee for each service if the order is less than $100, so I usually send an order
> when I can spend that amount.
>
> Both shopping services are a blessing as I can't do a lot of walking. Having them delivered is the best
> because the delivery lad brings them upstairs (half a flight), and there are often heavy items, like
> water for my Keurig and cases of drinking water. I always tip the delivery person, though they aren't
> allowed to accept tips at the store.
>
> The shoppers at thethat do this for me know me pretty well, so they know what to expect in my choices. But
> even if they didn't, one can specify...after each selection...any special instructions, plus whether a substitute
> (one can say what the substitute can be, or not) is acceptable if the item listed is out of stock.
>
I think it's great you have a pickup/delivery service options. I'm sure
it's available through Publix, though it would cost a lot more.

I use the grocery store website to create and print a shopping list.
It's convenient and nice to know what they have that isn't just in the
weekly ad. Sometimes they tell you the price, sometimes they don't.
The price of meat and produce is not constant.

I've added prime filets to my shopping list. I could call and find out
the price today, I suppose. At this point I don't care. I just want
really nice, tender beef steaks.

Jill

On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 5:26:45 PM UTC-5, Nancy2 wrote:
> Jill, I never check a website for sales...the grocery I use most of the time mails sale flyers every
> week. Plus, being the only person I feed, and having no freezer besides what is contained within, I
> have no need to "stock up." I like having a flyer in my hand so I can check through it at my
> leisure.
>
> That supermarket has an "Aisles Online" feature. That means I can either have a shopper choose
> Groceries that I ask for on my order (along with specific instructions for each item if needed), and I can
> pick them up in the Sri E-up lane (without getting out of my car), or have the shopper choose and then
> the store delivers within an hour time-frame that I specify.
>
> There is a very small fee for each service if the order is less than $100, so I usually send an order
> when I can spend that amount.
>
> Both shopping services are a blessing as I can't do a lot of walking. Having them delivered is the best
> because the delivery lad brings them upstairs (half a flight), and there are often heavy items, like
> water for my Keurig and cases of drinking water. I always tip the delivery person, though they aren't
> allowed to accept tips at the store.
>
> The shoppers at thethat do this for me know me pretty well, so they know what to expect in my choices. But
> even if they didn't, one can specify...after each selection...any special instructions, plus whether a substitute
> (one can say what the substitute can be, or not) is acceptable if the item listed is out of stock.

Hy-Vee! I love having them shop for me! Not a fan of leaving the house. I also buy a lot of Pepsi, and it's nice to only have to handle it once.

Nice seeing you again, Nancy.

Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my groceries online.

I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer having that as opposed
to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed "word," which also
includes books (instead of electronic readers).

N.

On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my groceries online.
>
> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer having that as opposed
> to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed "word," which also
> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>
> N.
>
Nancy2, I prefer to hold and read books in my hands, sure. I don't get
sales flyers in the mailbox anymore. So I look at the web site to help
me make my shopping list and also see what else they might have I might
want. To stock the freezer.

Jill

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my
> groceries online.
>
> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer having
> that as opposed
> to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed "word,"
> which also
> includes books (instead of electronic readers).

For ads I much prefer online. Any paper ads I get are tossed out
immediately. I wish they'd do away with mailing them.

On 5/28/2018 2:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my
>> groceries online.
>>
>> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer
>> having that as opposed
>> to spending more time on the computer.Â* I just like the printed
>> "word," which also
>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>
> For ads I much prefer online. Any paper ads I get are tossed out
> immediately. I wish they'd do away with mailing them.

The paper ads and coupons I do still get via snail mail are useless.

As for paper (other than books and shopping lists!) I pay most of my
bills online. For things like the electric and water bill, I've been
signed up for "paperless billing" at this address for a decade yet I
still occasionally get paper bills in the mail. Then I have to check
and make sure it's the same bill, yeah, thought so. I just paid this.
A duplication of effort and a waste of paper. It's irritating.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/28/2018 2:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my
>>> groceries online.
>>>
>>> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer
>>> having that as opposed
>>> to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed "word,"
>>> which also
>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>
>> For ads I much prefer online. Any paper ads I get are tossed out
>> immediately. I wish they'd do away with mailing them.
>
> The paper ads and coupons I do still get via snail mail are useless.



I love the paper ads and coupons that come in snail mail.

Cheri

On 5/28/2018 9:50 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/28/2018 2:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my
>>>> groceries online.
>>>>
>>>> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer
>>>> having that as opposed
>>>> to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed
>>>> "word," which also
>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>
>>> For ads I much prefer online. Any paper ads I get are tossed out
>>> immediately. I wish they'd do away with mailing them.
>>
>> The paper ads and coupons I do still get via snail mail are useless.
>
>
>
> I love the paper ads and coupons that come in snail mail.
>
> Cheri

I live in a weird area, Cheri. The paper ads I get via snail mail are
not for nearby stores. Unless you count 50-75 miles as nearby. And
they're never for anything I want or need. I'm not in the market for
furniture from an outlet in Bluffton. The paper coupons are often for
restaurants, e.g. $10 off at some teppankaki grill in Rincon. I've
heard of Rincon. Never actually been there. I certainly won't be
dining there. LOL Useless waste of paper.

Jill

On 2018-05-28 9:50 AM, Cheri wrote:

>> The paper ads and coupons I do still get via snail mail are useless.
>
>
>
> I love the paper ads and coupons that come in snail mail.

If they come on garbage I walk back across the street from the mail box
and drop them into the recycling bin. They don't even make it to the
house. I try to de-clutter by not even taking it into the house.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/28/2018 2:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my
>>> groceries online.
>>>
>>> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer
>>> having that as opposed
>>> to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed "word,"
>>> which also
>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>
>> For ads I much prefer online. Any paper ads I get are tossed out
>> immediately. I wish they'd do away with mailing them.
>
> The paper ads and coupons I do still get via snail mail are useless.
>
> As for paper (other than books and shopping lists!) I pay most of my bills
> online. For things like the electric and water bill, I've been signed up
> for "paperless billing" at this address for a decade yet I still
> occasionally get paper bills in the mail. Then I have to check and make
> sure it's the same bill, yeah, thought so. I just paid this. A
> duplication of effort and a waste of paper. It's irritating.

Agree. I prefer paperless with everything. The less to recycle, the better.

On Mon, 28 May 2018 17:19:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 5/28/2018 2:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my
>>>> groceries online.
>>>>
>>>> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer
>>>> having that as opposed
>>>> to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed "word,"
>>>> which also
>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>
>>> For ads I much prefer online. Any paper ads I get are tossed out
>>> immediately. I wish they'd do away with mailing them.
>>
>> The paper ads and coupons I do still get via snail mail are useless.
>>
>> As for paper (other than books and shopping lists!) I pay most of my bills
>> online. For things like the electric and water bill, I've been signed up
>> for "paperless billing" at this address for a decade yet I still
>> occasionally get paper bills in the mail. Then I have to check and make
>> sure it's the same bill, yeah, thought so. I just paid this. A
>> duplication of effort and a waste of paper. It's irritating.
>
>Agree. I prefer paperless with everything. The less to recycle, the better.

So why are you buying water in plastic bottles???

On Sun, 27 May 2018 23:14:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
>> Jill, I never check a website for specials, although I do order my
>> groceries online.
>>
>> I get a weekly sales flyer in the regular mail, and I really prefer having
>> that as opposed
>> to spending more time on the computer. I just like the printed "word,"
>> which also
>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>
>For ads I much prefer online. Any paper ads I get are tossed out
>immediately. I wish they'd do away with mailing them.

Here we call them weekly circulars. I get them at the post office
when get my POB mail, but the post office doesn't put them in the
boxes, they are out on a counter so people can take or not. I go
through the circular for the Tops Market in town becaue it contains
coupons... I get the circular on line but why should I use my printer
ink to print an entire page al in color for a tiny coupon.. and the
circulars are in the store by the entrance. I rarely use my printer,
ink is too pricey.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> I just like the printed "word," which also
> includes books (instead of electronic readers).

Add me. I keep a grocery list all week. Many times I'll notice
something that needs to be replaced while cooking. I add that to
my list. Wednesday sale ads I'll look at too. I do always take a
list with me though.

I normally go grocery shopping twice a week. Mon or Tue to pick
up a few more sale things, then Thur, Fri to get the new weeks
sale items. Or just basics that I want here anyway.

On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> I just like the printed "word," which also
> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>
> N.

Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
require a cord or recharging.

Jill

On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>
>> N.
>
>Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>require a cord or recharging.
>
>Jill

But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
add backlighting if the light is poor.

On 5/28/2018 9:57 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>> Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>> require a cord or recharging.
>>
>> Jill
>
> But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
> in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
> found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
> add backlighting if the light is poor.
>
Hey, if you enjoy the ebook reader, great. Me, I don't need to have 40
books in my purse. I tend to pick one book and read it cover to cover.
I don't generally bounce between books unless I find one to be
exceptionally dull.

Then again, I don't spend a lot of time in waiting rooms.

Jill

On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 10:30:29 AM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 5/28/2018 9:57 AM, wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> >>> I just like the printed "word," which also
> >>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
> >>>
> >>> N.
> >>
> >> Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
> >> require a cord or recharging.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
> > in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
> > found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
> > add backlighting if the light is poor.
> >
> Hey, if you enjoy the ebook reader, great. Me, I don't need to have 40
> books in my purse. I tend to pick one book and read it cover to cover.
> I don't generally bounce between books unless I find one to be
> exceptionally dull.
>
> Then again, I don't spend a lot of time in waiting rooms.
>
> Jill

A couple times in the past few months I've been out to lunch and reached
the end of a book. If I'd been reading paper, I'd have been out of luck.
With the e-book library, I just opened another book.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 28 May 2018 10:30:21 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/28/2018 9:57 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>
>>> Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>>> require a cord or recharging.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
>> in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
>> found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
>> add backlighting if the light is poor.
>>
>Hey, if you enjoy the ebook reader, great. Me, I don't need to have 40
>books in my purse. I tend to pick one book and read it cover to cover.
>I don't generally bounce between books unless I find one to be
>exceptionally dull.
>
>Then again, I don't spend a lot of time in waiting rooms.
>
>Jill

Waiting rooms generally have lousy magazines.
I always have crossword puzzles with me.

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>>Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>>require a cord or recharging.
>>
>>Jill
>
> But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
> in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
> found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
> add backlighting if the light is poor.


The Kindle or e-reader is so much handier for me due to arthritis makes it
hard to hold books turn pages etc., and as you say I can change the print to
larger print at the push of a button or two which makes it easier to see.
Seems like we have this conversation about every 3 or 4 months, same with
dishwasher versus dishwashing, how far behind can the cell phone debate be?


Cheri

On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 12:46:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> >>> I just like the printed "word," which also
> >>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
> >>>
> >>> N.
> >>
> >>Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
> >>require a cord or recharging.
> >>
> >>Jill
> >
> > But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
> > in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
> > found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
> > add backlighting if the light is poor.
>
>
> The Kindle or e-reader is so much handier for me due to arthritis makes it
> hard to hold books turn pages etc., and as you say I can change the print to
> larger print at the push of a button or two which makes it easier to see.
> Seems like we have this conversation about every 3 or 4 months, same with
> dishwasher versus dishwashing, how far behind can the cell phone debate be?
>
>
> Cheri

Well, we are talking about grocery lists. Should be pretty soon.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:45:46 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 28 May 2018 09:33:30 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/27/2018 6:33 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> I just like the printed "word," which also
>>>> includes books (instead of electronic readers).
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>
>>>Add me to that list. I just picked up a bunch of books. They don't
>>>require a cord or recharging.
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>> But OTOH if I'm out somewhere and have to wait, I have about 40 books
>> in my purse. I tried to read a paper book recently and gave up and
>> found the ebook editiion, much better. I can adjust the print size,
>> add backlighting if the light is poor.
>
>
>The Kindle or e-reader is so much handier for me due to arthritis makes it
>hard to hold books turn pages etc., and as you say I can change the print to
>larger print at the push of a button or two which makes it easier to see.
>Seems like we have this conversation about every 3 or 4 months, same with
>dishwasher versus dishwashing, how far behind can the cell phone debate be?
>
>
>Cheri
lol Did I tell you about https://www.bookbub.com/ ? I signed up with
them and they send me suggestions for books and the most I have ever
paid is $1.99 ! Cost me more to drive to the library

On 5/27/2018 5:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Time to re-stock the freezer.Â* I was perusing the Publix weekly ad.
> Nothing much in the way of beef on sale.Â* I decided to dig beyond and
> look at what else is available in the meat department. According to
> their web site.
>
> I've never liked the term "flap steak".Â* Nor the term "skirt steak".Â*
> I know exactly what they're used for - fajitas.Â* That sort of meat
> requires a lot of marinating and tenderizing.
>
> In any event, the web site can't tell you the price of these pieces of
> tough meat.Â* But yes, they have lots of different cuts available.
>
> I am looking for some nice *tender* tenderloin filets.Â* I like
> porterhouse steaks but really don't want to contend with cutting
> steaks off the bone.
>
> Oh yes, just found prime filets!Â* For actual prime, I have to buy
> vacuum packed named branded ones... but they're prime, not choice.Â*
> You know this means XX dollars.Â* Ditto the rib-eyes.
>
> How often do you use your grocery store's web site to see what is
> available before you make a shopping list?
>
> Jill

Â*Â* What's a shopping list ? I've almost always got whatever I want on
the pantry shelf and/or in the freezer to fix almost anything I want .
There are exceptions ...

Â*Â* We get an ad insert every other week with the local weekly paper .
This morning I bought 2 12 pound shank hams at a buck.48 , and 3
packagesÂ* - about 12 pounds total - of country style ribs at $1.78 .
Right now the only item I'm low on is skinless/boneless chicken breasts
.. When I see a good deal I'll stock up on those . I usually have a
pretty good idea what I'm short on , and watch for sales . Besides the
chicken , I'm watching for a good sale on "ends and pieces" of ham . Got
some pretty decent slices in there in the past , and it usually goes for
cheep in big packages . Perfect ! That's what Food Savers are for . Six
month's supply ? Hell yeah !

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and set in my ways .

On 5/27/2018 7:22 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 5/27/2018 5:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Time to re-stock the freezer.Â* I was perusing the Publix weekly ad.
>> Nothing much in the way of beef on sale.Â* I decided to dig beyond and
>> look at what else is available in the meat department. According to
>> their web site.
>>
>> I've never liked the term "flap steak".Â* Nor the term "skirt steak". I
>> know exactly what they're used for - fajitas.Â* That sort of meat
>> requires a lot of marinating and tenderizing.
>>
>> In any event, the web site can't tell you the price of these pieces of
>> tough meat.Â* But yes, they have lots of different cuts available.
>>
>> I am looking for some nice *tender* tenderloin filets.Â* I like
>> porterhouse steaks but really don't want to contend with cutting
>> steaks off the bone.
>>
>> Oh yes, just found prime filets!Â* For actual prime, I have to buy
>> vacuum packed named branded ones... but they're prime, not choice. You
>> know this means XX dollars.Â* Ditto the rib-eyes.
>>
>> How often do you use your grocery store's web site to see what is
>> available before you make a shopping list?
>>
>> Jill
>
> Â*Â* What's a shopping list ? I've almost always got whatever I want on
> the pantry shelf and/or in the freezer to fix almost anything I want .
> There are exceptions ...
>
If you have to ask don't bother.

Jill

On 5/27/2018 6:50 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/27/2018 7:22 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 5/27/2018 5:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> Time to re-stock the freezer.Â* I was perusing the Publix weekly ad.
>>> Nothing much in the way of beef on sale.Â* I decided to dig beyond
>>> and look at what else is available in the meat department. According
>>> to their web site.
>>>
>>> I've never liked the term "flap steak".Â* Nor the term "skirt steak".
>>> I know exactly what they're used for - fajitas.Â* That sort of meat
>>> requires a lot of marinating and tenderizing.
>>>
>>> In any event, the web site can't tell you the price of these pieces
>>> of tough meat.Â* But yes, they have lots of different cuts available.
>>>
>>> I am looking for some nice *tender* tenderloin filets.Â* I like
>>> porterhouse steaks but really don't want to contend with cutting
>>> steaks off the bone.
>>>
>>> Oh yes, just found prime filets!Â* For actual prime, I have to buy
>>> vacuum packed named branded ones... but they're prime, not choice.
>>> You know this means XX dollars.Â* Ditto the rib-eyes.
>>>
>>> How often do you use your grocery store's web site to see what is
>>> available before you make a shopping list?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Â*Â*Â* What's a shopping list ? I've almost always got whatever I want
>> on the pantry shelf and/or in the freezer to fix almost anything I
>> want . There are exceptions ...
>>
> If you have to ask don't bother.
>
> Jill

Â* Jill , this thread implies that the list is for dinner tonight or
something in that vein . We use a list , but the list is made as I/we
pull items off the storage shelf to the current-use location . This way
I almost always have on hand whatever I need for what I want to fix for
dinner . WE have to use a system of some sort since I do most of the
cooking and she does most of the shopping . The exception is meat , I do
almost all the meat purchases . Just a few minutes ago I finished
portioning out the 3 packages of country style ribs and got them in the
freezer . Did pretty good , average a buck a serving . Did even better
on the ham , looks like around $.85 per serving based on getting 2 meals
per package . And we'll probably get that plus a lunch or 2 .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and set in my ways .

On 5/28/2018 10:26 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 5/27/2018 6:50 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/27/2018 7:22 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>> On 5/27/2018 5:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Time to re-stock the freezer.Â* I was perusing the Publix weekly ad.
>>>> Nothing much in the way of beef on sale.Â* I decided to dig beyond
>>>> and look at what else is available in the meat department. According
>>>> to their web site.
>>>>
>>>> I've never liked the term "flap steak".Â* Nor the term "skirt steak".
>>>> I know exactly what they're used for - fajitas.Â* That sort of meat
>>>> requires a lot of marinating and tenderizing.
>>>>
>>>> In any event, the web site can't tell you the price of these pieces
>>>> of tough meat.Â* But yes, they have lots of different cuts available.
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for some nice *tender* tenderloin filets.Â* I like
>>>> porterhouse steaks but really don't want to contend with cutting
>>>> steaks off the bone.
>>>>
>>>> Oh yes, just found prime filets!Â* For actual prime, I have to buy
>>>> vacuum packed named branded ones... but they're prime, not choice.
>>>> You know this means XX dollars.Â* Ditto the rib-eyes.
>>>>
>>>> How often do you use your grocery store's web site to see what is
>>>> available before you make a shopping list?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Â*Â*Â* What's a shopping list ? I've almost always got whatever I want
>>> on the pantry shelf and/or in the freezer to fix almost anything I
>>> want . There are exceptions ...
>>>
>> If you have to ask don't bother.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Â* Jill , this thread implies that the list is for dinner tonight or
> something in that vein .

No, it doesn't. Re-read. I specifically said it's time to restock the
freezer.

> We use a list , but the list is made as I/we
> pull items off the storage shelf to the current-use location . This way
> I almost always have on hand whatever I need for what I want to fix for
> dinner . WE have to use a system of some sort since I do most of the
> cooking and she does most of the shopping . The exception is meat , I do
> almost all the meat purchases . Just a few minutes ago I finished
> portioning out the 3 packages of country style ribs and got them in the
> freezer . Did pretty good , average a buck a serving . Did even better
> on the ham , looks like around $.85 per serving based on getting 2 meals
> per package . And we'll probably get that plus a lunch or 2 .
>
Nice. I made country ribs with a pseudo asian marinade not long ago so
I'm not in the market for ribs. I've never been a huge fan of ham.

I guess you got the impression about a dinner tonight because I
mentioned I'm in the market for some prime beef petit filets. About 2
inches thick. Yes, but I plan to stock up for the freezer.

And no, I don't want the filets wrapped in bacon. If I decide to cook
them that way I'll wrap them myself at home, thank you.

I dislike the way some grocery stores try to present you with their own
embellishments. Here are some "pinwheels" of thinly sliced beef flank
with garlic and basil butter. What? I skip right past that stuff.

Jill

On 5/28/2018 10:03 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/28/2018 10:26 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 5/27/2018 6:50 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/27/2018 7:22 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>> On 5/27/2018 5:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> Time to re-stock the freezer.Â* I was perusing the Publix weekly
>>>>> ad. Nothing much in the way of beef on sale.Â* I decided to dig
>>>>> beyond and look at what else is available in the meat department.
>>>>> According to their web site.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never liked the term "flap steak".Â* Nor the term "skirt
>>>>> steak". I know exactly what they're used for - fajitas.Â* That sort
>>>>> of meat requires a lot of marinating and tenderizing.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any event, the web site can't tell you the price of these
>>>>> pieces of tough meat.Â* But yes, they have lots of different cuts
>>>>> available.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for some nice *tender* tenderloin filets.Â* I like
>>>>> porterhouse steaks but really don't want to contend with cutting
>>>>> steaks off the bone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yes, just found prime filets!Â* For actual prime, I have to buy
>>>>> vacuum packed named branded ones... but they're prime, not choice.
>>>>> You know this means XX dollars.Â* Ditto the rib-eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> How often do you use your grocery store's web site to see what is
>>>>> available before you make a shopping list?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Â*Â*Â* What's a shopping list ? I've almost always got whatever I want
>>>> on the pantry shelf and/or in the freezer to fix almost anything I
>>>> want . There are exceptions ...
>>>>
>>> If you have to ask don't bother.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Â*Â* Jill , this thread implies that the list is for dinner tonight or
>> something in that vein .
>
> No, it doesn't.Â* Re-read.Â* I specifically said it's time to restock
> the freezer.
>
>> We use a list , but the list is made as I/we pull items off the
>> storage shelf to the current-use location . This way I almost always
>> have on hand whatever I need for what I want to fix for dinner . WE
>> have to use a system of some sort since I do most of the cooking and
>> she does most of the shopping . The exception is meat , I do almost
>> all the meat purchases . Just a few minutes ago I finished portioning
>> out the 3 packages of country style ribs and got them in the freezer
>> . Did pretty good , average a buck a serving . Did even better on the
>> ham , looks like around $.85 per serving based on getting 2 meals per
>> package . And we'll probably get that plus a lunch or 2 .
>>
> Nice.Â* I made country ribs with a pseudo asian marinade not long ago
> so I'm not in the market for ribs.Â* I've never been a huge fan of ham.
>
> I guess you got the impression about a dinner tonight because I
> mentioned I'm in the market for some prime beef petit filets. About 2
> inches thick.Â* Yes, but I plan to stock up for the freezer.
>
> And no, I don't want the filets wrapped in bacon.Â* If I decide to cook
> them that way I'll wrap them myself at home, thank you.
>
> I dislike the way some grocery stores try to present you with their
> own embellishments.Â* Here are some "pinwheels" of thinly sliced beef
> flank with garlic and basil butter.Â* What?Â* I skip right past that stuff.
>
> Jill

We love ham ... and CSR's are one of my favorites . I try to do a
rotation type thing , try not to serve the same meat 2 nights in a row ,
vary sides , etc . I've gained a new respect for all the years my wife
juggled dinners and kept us well fed - and on less money (real value)
than we spend now . BTW , got some of those ribs marinatng in season
salt and a dash of white wine but forgot to soak the beans last night .
There's a can of country-style white beans on the shelf , we'll try
those tonight .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and set in my ways .

On Mon, 28 May 2018 11:03:48 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/28/2018 10:26 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 5/27/2018 6:50 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/27/2018 7:22 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>> On 5/27/2018 5:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> Time to re-stock the freezer.* I was perusing the Publix weekly ad.
>>>>> Nothing much in the way of beef on sale.* I decided to dig beyond
>>>>> and look at what else is available in the meat department. According
>>>>> to their web site.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never liked the term "flap steak".* Nor the term "skirt steak".
>>>>> I know exactly what they're used for - fajitas.* That sort of meat
>>>>> requires a lot of marinating and tenderizing.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any event, the web site can't tell you the price of these pieces
>>>>> of tough meat.* But yes, they have lots of different cuts available.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for some nice *tender* tenderloin filets.* I like
>>>>> porterhouse steaks but really don't want to contend with cutting
>>>>> steaks off the bone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yes, just found prime filets!* For actual prime, I have to buy
>>>>> vacuum packed named branded ones... but they're prime, not choice.
>>>>> You know this means XX dollars.* Ditto the rib-eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> How often do you use your grocery store's web site to see what is
>>>>> available before you make a shopping list?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> *** What's a shopping list ? I've almost always got whatever I want
>>>> on the pantry shelf and/or in the freezer to fix almost anything I
>>>> want . There are exceptions ...
>>>>
>>> If you have to ask don't bother.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> * Jill , this thread implies that the list is for dinner tonight or
>> something in that vein .
>
>No, it doesn't. Re-read. I specifically said it's time to restock the
>freezer.

I can't remember having to run out to a store to prepare dinner
because I'm missing one item, I'll either do without that item,
substitute, or change the menu.

>> We use a list , but the list is made as I/we
>> pull items off the storage shelf to the current-use location . This way
>> I almost always have on hand whatever I need for what I want to fix for
>> dinner . WE have to use a system of some sort since I do most of the
>> cooking and she does most of the shopping . The exception is meat , I do
>> almost all the meat purchases . Just a few minutes ago I finished
>> portioning out the 3 packages of country style ribs and got them in the
>> freezer . Did pretty good , average a buck a serving . Did even better
>> on the ham , looks like around $.85 per serving based on getting 2 meals
>> per package . And we'll probably get that plus a lunch or 2 .
>>
>Nice. I made country ribs with a pseudo asian marinade not long ago so
>I'm not in the market for ribs. I've never been a huge fan of ham.
>
>I guess you got the impression about a dinner tonight because I
>mentioned I'm in the market for some prime beef petit filets. About 2
>inches thick. Yes, but I plan to stock up for the freezer.
>
>And no, I don't want the filets wrapped in bacon. If I decide to cook
>them that way I'll wrap them myself at home, thank you.
>
>I dislike the way some grocery stores try to present you with their own
>embellishments. Here are some "pinwheels" of thinly sliced beef flank
>with garlic and basil butter. What? I skip right past that stuff.
>
>Jill

On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 1:22:48 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> Â*Â* What's a shopping list ? I've almost always got whatever I want on
> the pantry shelf and/or in the freezer to fix almost anything I want .
> There are exceptions ...
>
> Â*Â* We get an ad insert every other week with the local weekly paper .
> This morning I bought 2 12 pound shank hams at a buck.48 , and 3
> packagesÂ* - about 12 pounds total - of country style ribs at $1.78 .
> Right now the only item I'm low on is skinless/boneless chicken breasts
> . When I see a good deal I'll stock up on those . I usually have a
> pretty good idea what I'm short on , and watch for sales . Besides the
> chicken , I'm watching for a good sale on "ends and pieces" of ham . Got
> some pretty decent slices in there in the past , and it usually goes for
> cheep in big packages . Perfect ! That's what Food Savers are for . Six
> month's supply ? Hell yeah !
>
> --
> Snag
> Yes , I'm old
> and set in my ways .

I wish I could find lamb shanks. My daughter ordered that dish at the restaurant down the street. She would never order lamb in any form nor would I ever buy lamb in any form. This braised lamb in a wine sauce was so wonderful that we would make an exception. The restaurant is managed by her ex-boyfriend so it looks like we won't be eating there again for a while. That's the breaks.

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On 5/27/2018 6:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> How often do you use your grocery store's web site to see what is
> available before you make a shopping list?
>
> Jill

Pretty much never. I'm at the store 2 or 3 times a week so I cruise the
meat aisle to see what looks good. I take advantage of bargains too.
They had packs of two large, thick, pork chops marked down 50% so I
bought 3 packs, one for dinner, 2 for the freezer.

I do get a list of coupons by email every Thursday. I will look at them
and load them to the loyalty card if I want to use them. I won't buy
something just for the coupon, but if it is something I use, sure, I may
buy it a week or so earlier if the coupon will expire soon.

On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 1:50:10 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Pretty much never. I'm at the store 2 or 3 times a week so I cruise the
> meat aisle to see what looks good. I take advantage of bargains too.
> They had packs of two large, thick, pork chops marked down 50% so I
> bought 3 packs, one for dinner, 2 for the freezer.
>
> I do get a list of coupons by email every Thursday. I will look at them
> and load them to the loyalty card if I want to use them. I won't buy
> something just for the coupon, but if it is something I use, sure, I may
> buy it a week or so earlier if the coupon will expire soon.

I wouldn't expect a man to make a shopping list. That would be like expecting a woman to back up into a parking stall.

On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 8:17:52 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 1:50:10 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > Pretty much never. I'm at the store 2 or 3 times a week so I cruise the
> > meat aisle to see what looks good. I take advantage of bargains too.
> > They had packs of two large, thick, pork chops marked down 50% so I
> > bought 3 packs, one for dinner, 2 for the freezer.
> >
> > I do get a list of coupons by email every Thursday. I will look at them
> > and load them to the loyalty card if I want to use them. I won't buy
> > something just for the coupon, but if it is something I use, sure, I may
> > buy it a week or so earlier if the coupon will expire soon.
>
> I wouldn't expect a man to make a shopping list. That would be like expecting a woman to back up into a parking stall.

We have a shopping list always on the refrigerator door. He marks stuff on
it that he wants.

He pretty often makes a shopping list for the Home Depot.

I can't count the number of times I've waited for some asshole to
finish backing into a parking spot. What's the point? You have
to back up at some point, and I'd rather back out of the spot, which
is much, much easier.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 28 May 2018 03:54:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 8:17:52 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 1:50:10 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >
>> > Pretty much never. I'm at the store 2 or 3 times a week so I cruise the
>> > meat aisle to see what looks good. I take advantage of bargains too.
>> > They had packs of two large, thick, pork chops marked down 50% so I
>> > bought 3 packs, one for dinner, 2 for the freezer.
>> >
>> > I do get a list of coupons by email every Thursday. I will look at them
>> > and load them to the loyalty card if I want to use them. I won't buy
>> > something just for the coupon, but if it is something I use, sure, I may
>> > buy it a week or so earlier if the coupon will expire soon.
>>
>> I wouldn't expect a man to make a shopping list. That would be like expecting a woman to back up into a parking stall.
>
>We have a shopping list always on the refrigerator door. He marks stuff on
>it that he wants.
>
>He pretty often makes a shopping list for the Home Depot.
>
>I can't count the number of times I've waited for some asshole to
>finish backing into a parking spot. What's the point? You have
>to back up at some point, and I'd rather back out of the spot, which
>is much, much easier.

Maybe they like to have the hard bit over with before they go
shopping. Or they like the look on your face.

On 5/28/2018 6:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 8:17:52 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 1:50:10 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> Pretty much never. I'm at the store 2 or 3 times a week so I cruise the
>>> meat aisle to see what looks good. I take advantage of bargains too.
>>> They had packs of two large, thick, pork chops marked down 50% so I
>>> bought 3 packs, one for dinner, 2 for the freezer.
>>>
>>> I do get a list of coupons by email every Thursday. I will look at them
>>> and load them to the loyalty card if I want to use them. I won't buy
>>> something just for the coupon, but if it is something I use, sure, I may
>>> buy it a week or so earlier if the coupon will expire soon.
>>
>> I wouldn't expect a man to make a shopping list. That would be like expecting a woman to back up into a parking stall.
>
> We have a shopping list always on the refrigerator door. He marks stuff on
> it that he wants.
>
> He pretty often makes a shopping list for the Home Depot.
>
> I can't count the number of times I've waited for some asshole to
> finish backing into a parking spot. What's the point? You have
> to back up at some point, and I'd rather back out of the spot, which
> is much, much easier.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
That's a pet peeve of mine. Just park the damn car and get out of the way.

Jill

On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 7:05:45 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> On 5/28/2018 6:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > I can't count the number of times I've waited for some asshole to
> > finish backing into a parking spot. What's the point? You have
> > to back up at some point, and I'd rather back out of the spot, which
> > is much, much easier.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> That's a pet peeve of mine. Just park the damn car and get out of the way.
>
> Jill
>
>
I'm a backer in person. I cannot stand to be backing out of a spot and
some IDIOT on their phone, usually, or walking and looking at their feet
walks right behind me as I'm backing out. I look like Linda Blair in the
"Exorcist" twisting and turning to see if some numb skull is back there
before I creep out. 70% of the time there is and I'M the one getting a
dirty look or the finger because I don't have eyes in the back of my head.

I back in and you're inconvenienced for 45 seconds but I didn't run over
anyone. I've got a clear view of airheads walking in front of my car
before pulling out.

On 2018-05-28 6:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I can't count the number of times I've waited for some asshole to
> finish backing into a parking spot. What's the point? You have
> to back up at some point, and I'd rather back out of the spot, which
> is much, much easier.

It shouldn't take much longer to back into a space than it does to drive
it. I would expect that anyone who does it should be able to back well
enough that it should not take any great effort. While it may take
just a little longer to back in they will gain that time back when they
drive straight out.

People who back into spaces are probably better trained drivers. It is
generally safer to back in than to drive in and then have to back out
because it is harder so see vehicles and pedestrians approaching from
the side. Ideally, people should choose a space where they can drive in
and drive out. The next best is to back in and drive out.



No matter how large a parking spot it, there are still people who will
have trouble getting in and out. There are people out there who are
hopeless at parking. I see it almost every time I go to the corner
bakery/coffee shop. The roadside parking spaces are huge. You can
easily park an extended cab ban or pickup truck in one of them, but
people still have trouble staying between the lines.
A couple weeks ago I was there with my wife and there was only one
space available. The car behind was more than two feet into the
otherwise empty space. I had a bit of a challenge parallel in front of
it, and thanks to my back camera I was able to back up to within about
an inch of her front bumper. I figured that she had more than enough
room to back up before pulling out. What I had not counted on was a
small car slipping into the space behind her car and boxing her in.

Of course we had to stick around and watch for her to some out. She
could not be too upset with my position because it was her car that was
sticking so far into my space. As it turned out, she left just before
us. She was lucky that the guy behind was leaving just as she was
standing there looking at her boxed in Mercedes SUV.

On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 8:54:50 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-05-28 6:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > I can't count the number of times I've waited for some asshole to
> > finish backing into a parking spot. What's the point? You have
> > to back up at some point, and I'd rather back out of the spot, which
> > is much, much easier.
>
> It shouldn't take much longer to back into a space than it does to drive
> it. I would expect that anyone who does it should be able to back well
> enough that it should not take any great effort. While it may take
> just a little longer to back in they will gain that time back when they
> drive straight out.
>
> People who back into spaces are probably better trained drivers. It is
> generally safer to back in than to drive in and then have to back out
> because it is harder so see vehicles and pedestrians approaching from
> the side. Ideally, people should choose a space where they can drive in
> and drive out. The next best is to back in and drive out.

Should. Should. Should. The plain and simple fact is that people who
back into a space take extra time and do a poor job of aligning their
car between the lines on the pavement.

If you can't back out of a parking space, it's time to turn in your
driver's license.

Besides: How the hell do you get groceries into the trunk when it's
jammed up against the car behind you?

Cindy Hamilton

On 2018-05-28 6:54 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-05-28 6:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> I can't count the number of times I've waited for some asshole to
>> finish backing into a parking spot.Â* What's the point?Â* You have
>> to back up at some point, and I'd rather back out of the spot, which
>> is much, much easier.
>
> It shouldn't take much longer to back into a space than it does to drive
> it.Â* I would expect that anyone who does it should be able to back well
> enough that it should not take any great effort.Â*Â* While it may take
> just a little longer to back in they will gain that time back when they
> drive straight out.
>
> People who back into spaces are probably better trained drivers. It is
> generally safer to back in than to drive in and then have to back out
> because it is harder so see vehicles and pedestrians approaching from
> the side.Â* Ideally, people should choose a space where they can drive in
> and drive out. The next best is to back in and drive out.
>
If it's a city owned lot in Calgary and you back in, you'll get
ticketed!! That's because we don't have front plates and the camera cars
can't record your plate number.
Graham

On Mon, 28 May 2018 08:54:46 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-05-28 6:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> I can't count the number of times I've waited for some asshole to
>> finish backing into a parking spot. What's the point? You have
>> to back up at some point, and I'd rather back out of the spot, which
>> is much, much easier.
>
>It shouldn't take much longer to back into a space than it does to drive
>it. I would expect that anyone who does it should be able to back well
>enough that it should not take any great effort. While it may take
>just a little longer to back in they will gain that time back when they
>drive straight out.
>
>People who back into spaces are probably better trained drivers. It is
>generally safer to back in than to drive in and then have to back out
>because it is harder so see vehicles and pedestrians approaching from
>the side. Ideally, people should choose a space where they can drive in
>and drive out. The next best is to back in and drive out.
>
>
>
>No matter how large a parking spot it, there are still people who will
>have trouble getting in and out. There are people out there who are
>hopeless at parking. I see it almost every time I go to the corner
>bakery/coffee shop. The roadside parking spaces are huge. You can
>easily park an extended cab ban or pickup truck in one of them, but
>people still have trouble staying between the lines.
> A couple weeks ago I was there with my wife and there was only one
>space available. The car behind was more than two feet into the
>otherwise empty space. I had a bit of a challenge parallel in front of
>it, and thanks to my back camera I was able to back up to within about
>an inch of her front bumper. I figured that she had more than enough
>room to back up before pulling out. What I had not counted on was a
>small car slipping into the space behind her car and boxing her in.
>
>Of course we had to stick around and watch for her to some out. She
>could not be too upset with my position because it was her car that was
>sticking so far into my space. As it turned out, she left just before
>us. She was lucky that the guy behind was leaving just as she was
>standing there looking at her boxed in Mercedes SUV.

Here in snow country the parking lots are huge because they need room
to push the mountains of snow, there's always plenty of parking spots
and all extra large. I have no problem backing into a spot, for me
backing in is just as easy as pulling in because I learned to drive in
NYC and there the driving test included parallel parking, you had to
back in one shot and end up with the tires less than six inches from
the curb but not touching the curb. In a big crowded city parking is
at a premium so one quickly learns how to back into a space that's not
much longer than the car. I've discovered that small hick town
drivers can't parallel park, never even tried.
My big pet peeve is coming out of a store and some ****pot compact car
is parked so close to me that I can't open my door enough for a cat to
squeeze through, and they had plenty of room to park centered in the
spot. All I could do is surmise they are in the stupid market so I
could have the store page who has such and such car but that takes
time. So I enter my car from the passenger side and have to climb
over the center console, not as easy as it looks.