Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
ingredient list is reasonable:

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>

Bruce wrote:
>
> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
> ingredient list is reasonable:
> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>

New product...I suspect they will keep the ingredient list secret
as much as possible. Sounds interesting though, I'll try it if it
ever shows up here. Most likely my local healthfood store
someday. It's a very cool place and only 1/4 mile from where I
live.

http://heritagenaturalmarket.com/

--------------------------------------
I noticed the word flexatarian...lol.

"Food blogs were aflutter this year over "flexitarian," the
latest word in gastronomic circles. The Macmillan English
Dictionary Web site (it hasn't made it into the Oxford English
Dictionary) defines a flexitarian as "a person who consumes
mainly vegetarian food, but occasionally eats meat or fish."

Well, that's me to a degree. I'm more half and half meals here
lately. No special reason, just what sounds good at the time.

I also read this and laughed at the term, "freegan." Is that the
new correct term for a bum? LOL!

"In case flexitarianism doesn't suit you, links on Macmillan's
"flexitarian" Web page offer any number of other possibilities:
vegan, fruitarian, pescetarian, rawist and even freegan (someone
who eats food that has been thrown away)."

Both quotes came from this site:

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/26/w...xitarians.html

On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:18:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>
>New product...I suspect they will keep the ingredient list secret
>as much as possible. Sounds interesting though, I'll try it if it
>ever shows up here. Most likely my local healthfood store
>someday. It's a very cool place and only 1/4 mile from where I
>live.
>
> http://heritagenaturalmarket.com/
>
>--------------------------------------
>I noticed the word flexatarian...lol.
>
>"Food blogs were aflutter this year over "flexitarian," the
>latest word in gastronomic circles. The Macmillan English
>Dictionary Web site (it hasn't made it into the Oxford English
>Dictionary) defines a flexitarian as "a person who consumes
>mainly vegetarian food, but occasionally eats meat or fish."
>
>Well, that's me to a degree. I'm more half and half meals here
>lately. No special reason, just what sounds good at the time.
>
>I also read this and laughed at the term, "freegan." Is that the
>new correct term for a bum? LOL!
>
>"In case flexitarianism doesn't suit you, links on Macmillan's
>"flexitarian" Web page offer any number of other possibilities:
>vegan, fruitarian, pescetarian, rawist and even freegan (someone
>who eats food that has been thrown away)."
>
>Both quotes came from this site:
>
>https://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/26/w...xitarians.html

Occasionally my wife eats vegetarian burgers. She mostly brings them
to school for lunch while frozen and heats them in the microwave. She
says it eats like a burger, looks like a burger, but the smell is way
off. I tasted one but didn't really think it was like a beef burger.
My wife isn't vegetarian but she doesn't like to use the school fridge
as people are always rummaging through other's food. The veggie
burger needs no refrigeration when brought to school frozen. There's
a few in the freezer now but the box is gone and I can't remember the
brand or list the ingredients... each is individually sealed in
plastic. I remember that the major ingredient is beans.

On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:18:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>New product...I suspect they will keep the ingredient list secret
>as much as possible. Sounds interesting though, I'll try it if it
>ever shows up here. Most likely my local healthfood store
>someday. It's a very cool place and only 1/4 mile from where I
>live.
>
> http://heritagenaturalmarket.com/
>
>--------------------------------------
>I noticed the word flexatarian...lol.
>
>"Food blogs were aflutter this year over "flexitarian," the
>latest word in gastronomic circles. The Macmillan English
>Dictionary Web site (it hasn't made it into the Oxford English
>Dictionary) defines a flexitarian as "a person who consumes
>mainly vegetarian food, but occasionally eats meat or fish."
>
>Well, that's me to a degree. I'm more half and half meals here
>lately. No special reason, just what sounds good at the time.
>
>I also read this and laughed at the term, "freegan." Is that the
>new correct term for a bum? LOL!
>
>"In case flexitarianism doesn't suit you, links on Macmillan's
>"flexitarian" Web page offer any number of other possibilities:
>vegan, fruitarian, pescetarian, rawist and even freegan (someone
>who eats food that has been thrown away)."
>
>Both quotes came from this site:
>
>https://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/26/w...xitarians.html

That's it. I'm seriously considering becoming a vegan freegan. It's
good for animals, good for the environment and cheap!

On 5/16/2018 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:18:34 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>>
>> New product...I suspect they will keep the ingredient list secret
>> as much as possible. Sounds interesting though, I'll try it if it
>> ever shows up here. Most likely my local healthfood store
>> someday. It's a very cool place and only 1/4 mile from where I
>> live.
>
> If I had $1 for every time a vegetarian said, "looks and tastes JUST
> like meat!" when it doesn't even come close...
>
> Why are vegetarians trying to replicate meat in the first place?
> That's your body and 2.6 million years of evolution telling you to
> eat meat. And they're apparently very miserable without it.
>
> -sw
>
Sorry but plant-based *steak* is fiction. You can't make a plant taste
like steak... at least not without a ton of chemicals. And we all know
how Bruce feels about ingredients lists!

I've tried Boca Burgers. They don't taste bad but they are not anything
like a good beef (or even a well seasoned turkey) burger. Doesn't this
sound tasty? Boca Burgers:

NGREDIENTS: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEAT GLUTEN, CONTAINS LESS
THAN 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, DRIED ONIONS, YEAST
EXTRACT, SESAME OIL, HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL
FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE.

Jill

On Wed, 16 May 2018 15:38:24 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/16/2018 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:18:34 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>>>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>>>
>>> New product...I suspect they will keep the ingredient list secret
>>> as much as possible. Sounds interesting though, I'll try it if it
>>> ever shows up here. Most likely my local healthfood store
>>> someday. It's a very cool place and only 1/4 mile from where I
>>> live.
>>
>> If I had $1 for every time a vegetarian said, "looks and tastes JUST
>> like meat!" when it doesn't even come close...
>>
>> Why are vegetarians trying to replicate meat in the first place?
>> That's your body and 2.6 million years of evolution telling you to
>> eat meat. And they're apparently very miserable without it.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>Sorry but plant-based *steak* is fiction. You can't make a plant taste
>like steak... at least not without a ton of chemicals. And we all know
>how Bruce feels about ingredients lists!

Maybe it's possible, maybe not. There's gluten based faux chicken,
duck and pork, by an Asian company. It tastes meaty, savoury and
crunchy. Exactly like meat? No, but I like it.

>I've tried Boca Burgers. They don't taste bad but they are not anything
>like a good beef (or even a well seasoned turkey) burger. Doesn't this
>sound tasty? Boca Burgers:
>
>NGREDIENTS: WATER, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEAT GLUTEN, CONTAINS LESS
>THAN 2% OF METHYLCELLULOSE, SALT, CARAMEL COLOR, DRIED ONIONS, YEAST
>EXTRACT, SESAME OIL, HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL
>FLAVOR (NON-MEAT), DISODIUM GUANYLATE, DISODIUM INOSINATE.

I agree that that's a terrible list.

On Wed, 16 May 2018 12:17:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 16 May 2018 09:18:34 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>>
>> New product...I suspect they will keep the ingredient list secret
>> as much as possible. Sounds interesting though, I'll try it if it
>> ever shows up here. Most likely my local healthfood store
>> someday. It's a very cool place and only 1/4 mile from where I
>> live.
>
>If I had $1 for every time a vegetarian said, "looks and tastes JUST
>like meat!" when it doesn't even come close...
>
>Why are vegetarians trying to replicate meat in the first place?
>That's your body and 2.6 million years of evolution telling you to
>eat meat. And they're apparently very miserable without it.

Always the same question. I love meat, but I also love animals. So
plant based meat that tastes like real meat -if it really does and
with decent ingredients- would be great for me.

This is not really hard to understand, is it?

On Thu, 17 May 2018 08:23:42 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:


>Always the same question. I love meat, but I also love animals. So
>plant based meat that tastes like real meat -if it really does and
>with decent ingredients- would be great for me.
>
>This is not really hard to understand, is it?


I can pretty much GUARANTEE it neither looks NOR TASTES like real meat
of ANY kind I've ever tasted.

On Wed, 16 May 2018 17:18:09 -0700, wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2018 08:23:42 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>
>>Always the same question. I love meat, but I also love animals. So
>>plant based meat that tastes like real meat -if it really does and
>>with decent ingredients- would be great for me.
>>
>>This is not really hard to understand, is it?
>
>
>I can pretty much GUARANTEE it neither looks NOR TASTES like real meat
>of ANY kind I've ever tasted.

All that means is that you've never tasted imitation meat that tasted
like real meat yet. Yet.

On 5/16/2018 8:18 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2018 08:23:42 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
>
>> Always the same question. I love meat, but I also love animals. So
>> plant based meat that tastes like real meat -if it really does and
>> with decent ingredients- would be great for me.
>>
>> This is not really hard to understand, is it?
>
> I can pretty much GUARANTEE it neither looks NOR TASTES like real meat
> of ANY kind I've ever tasted.
>
>
Oh, from the picture in the link it *looks* like a steak. According to
the article it's "barely distinguishable from real steak". "Barely
distinguishable" is enough to tell me it won't actually taste like a
steak. Boca Burgers don't taste like ground beef, either.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Oh, from the picture in the link it *looks* like a steak. According to
> the article it's "barely distinguishable from real steak". "Barely
> distinguishable" is enough to tell me it won't actually taste like a
> steak. Boca Burgers don't taste like ground beef, either.

Maybe at least be open minded enough to give it a try once it
becomes available. You are condemming it untasted. Old ppl@

On 2018-05-17 10:10 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/16/2018 8:18 PM, wrote:

> Oh, from the picture in the link it *looks* like a steak.Â* According to
> the article it's "barely distinguishable from real steak".Â* "Barely
> distinguishable" is enough to tell me it won't actually taste like a
> steak.Â* Boca Burgers don't taste like ground beef, either.

My vegetarian nephew was always pushing various veggie dogs and veggie
burgers and saying how they taste just like hamburgers and hot dogs.
Well, they don't. It is quite easy to tell them apart. The real meat
ones are quite good and tastes like meat. The veggie versions taste like
veggie versions.

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
> ingredient list is reasonable:
>
> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>

Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/16/2018 4:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>
>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>
> Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
> last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
It won't be any different. He really needs to stop pushing his agenda.
It's not going to change the way anyone eats.

Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese. (They
have so many friggin labels for who will eat what it's hard to keep up.)
I'm making spinach quiche. It contains spinach, eggs, milk and
cheese. But oh, the spinach was probably cruelly harvested...

Jill

On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/16/2018 4:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>>
>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>>
>> Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
>> last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>It won't be any different. He really needs to stop pushing his agenda.
>It's not going to change the way anyone eats.
>
>Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
>That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese. (They
>have so many friggin labels for who will eat what it's hard to keep up.)
> I'm making spinach quiche. It contains spinach, eggs, milk and
>cheese. But oh, the spinach was probably cruelly harvested...

When you post about a meat dish, are you pushing your agenda? You're
so narrow-minded...

On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
>That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese.

If you claim to be Vegan for morality reasons,
it makes NO sense to eliminate milk products and eggs,
as those are similar to fruits and vegetables,
where you eat the 'seeds' of the plant, which are renewable.

On Wed, 16 May 2018 17:16:10 -0700, wrote:

>On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
>>That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese.
>
>If you claim to be Vegan for morality reasons,
>it makes NO sense to eliminate milk products and eggs,
>as those are similar to fruits and vegetables,
>where you eat the 'seeds' of the plant, which are renewable.

That's not true. Hens and cows are kept alive for egg and milk
production, but where do you think the roosters and bulls go? Killing
the male animals is an integral part of the dairy industry. Not to
mention what happens with hens and cows when they become older and
less productive.

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 8:16:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
> >That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese.
>
> If you claim to be Vegan for morality reasons,
> it makes NO sense to eliminate milk products and eggs,
> as those are similar to fruits and vegetables,
> where you eat the 'seeds' of the plant, which are renewable.

Vegetarian: doesn't eat anything that kills an animal
Vegan: doesn't eat anything that inconveniences an animal

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 17 May 2018 03:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 8:16:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
>> >That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese.
>>
>> If you claim to be Vegan for morality reasons,
>> it makes NO sense to eliminate milk products and eggs,
>> as those are similar to fruits and vegetables,
>> where you eat the 'seeds' of the plant, which are renewable.
>
>Vegetarian: doesn't eat anything that kills an animal
>Vegan: doesn't eat anything that inconveniences an animal

Being killed because you're a male is more than just inconvenient.

On Thu, 17 May 2018 03:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 8:16:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
>>>That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese.
>>
>> If you claim to be Vegan for morality reasons,
>> it makes NO sense to eliminate milk products and eggs,
>> as those are similar to fruits and vegetables,
>> where you eat the 'seeds' of the plant, which are renewable.
>
> Vegetarian: doesn't eat anything that kills an animal
> Vegan: doesn't eat anything that inconveniences an animal

Which brings up a question: If chickens were wild, what would happen
to their almost daily, unfertilized eggs? Would they just kick them
to the side? Or would roosters make sure that they were fertilized
every day, keeping the hens in a constant state of childbirth?

And what would happen to a cow, that for whatever reason, had no
calves to milk her swollen mammary glands? (and doesn't live in
Greenville, New York)?

The chicken are not inconvenienced laying an egg every day,
fertilized or not. And the cow would probably feel much better if
she were milked.

-sw

On Thu, 17 May 2018 03:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 8:16:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
>> >That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese.
>>
>> If you claim to be Vegan for morality reasons,
>> it makes NO sense to eliminate milk products and eggs,
>> as those are similar to fruits and vegetables,
>> where you eat the 'seeds' of the plant, which are renewable.
>
>Vegetarian: doesn't eat anything that kills an animal
>Vegan: doesn't eat anything that inconveniences an animal

ALL those prove is you value SOME life
as more important than OTHER life.

Humans HAVE to eat organic products, whether it's plant OR animal, it
HAS to be organic, meaning it was ALIVE before you took it for food.

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 4:43:00 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 5/16/2018 4:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
> >> ingredient list is reasonable:
> >>
> >> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
> >
> > Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
> > last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> It won't be any different. He really needs to stop pushing his agenda.
> It's not going to change the way anyone eats.
>
> Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
> That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese. (They
> have so many friggin labels for who will eat what it's hard to keep up.)
> I'm making spinach quiche. It contains spinach, eggs, milk and
> cheese. But oh, the spinach was probably cruelly harvested...
>
> Jill

Yesterday I had vegetarian lunch: lentil soup with cauliflower, and a little
cheese on the side

And pescatarian dinner: tossed salad dressed with lime vinaigrette and
shrimp cocktail

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/17/2018 6:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 4:43:00 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 5/16/2018 4:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>>>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>>>
>>> Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
>>> last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> It won't be any different. He really needs to stop pushing his agenda.
>> It's not going to change the way anyone eats.
>>
>> Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
>> That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese. (They
>> have so many friggin labels for who will eat what it's hard to keep up.)
>> I'm making spinach quiche. It contains spinach, eggs, milk and
>> cheese. But oh, the spinach was probably cruelly harvested...
>>
>> Jill
>
> Yesterday I had vegetarian lunch: lentil soup with cauliflower, and a little
> cheese on the side
>
Thanks for the reminder, I need to make lentil soup again soon.

> And pescatarian dinner: tossed salad dressed with lime vinaigrette and
> shrimp cocktail
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I'll probably be eating a pescatarian dinner tonight (5/17). Pan seared
or baked (haven't decided yet) sea scallops with some sort of vegetable
side (lots to choose from).

Jill

On 5/16/2018 5:47 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 16-May-2018, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> On 5/16/2018 4:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>>>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>>>
>>> Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
>>> last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> It won't be any different. He really needs to stop pushing his agenda.
>> It's not going to change the way anyone eats.
>>
>> Just so happens my dinner tonight will be kinda-sorta vegetarian.
>> That's if you define the label as someone who eats eggs & cheese. (They
>> have so many friggin labels for who will eat what it's hard to keep up.)
>> I'm making spinach quiche. It contains spinach, eggs, milk and
>> cheese. But oh, the spinach was probably cruelly harvested...
>>
>> Jill
>
> Even if the spinach were humanely (spinachely??) harvested, it's still a
> problem meal. You'll beat the eggs and milk. 8-)
>
Yes, I torture the milk and eggs along with the crumbled feta cheese.
They all deserve to be beaten. LOL I use a hand-held wire whisk in a
stainless steel bowl. That makes me especially cruel...whisking. 8-)

Jill

On Wed, 16 May 2018 18:03:56 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/16/2018 5:47 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>
>> Even if the spinach were humanely (spinachely??) harvested, it's still a
>> problem meal. You'll beat the eggs and milk. 8-)
>>
>Yes, I torture the milk and eggs along with the crumbled feta cheese.
>They all deserve to be beaten. LOL I use a hand-held wire whisk in a
>stainless steel bowl. That makes me especially cruel...whisking. 8-)

Beavis and McButthead

On Wed, 16 May 2018 22:48:01 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 5/16/2018 4:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>>>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>>>
>>> Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
>>> last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.
>>>
>> It won't be any different. He really needs to stop pushing his agenda.
>> It's not going to change the way anyone eats.
>
>But it does help reinforce most people's opinions that many
>vegetarians are hollier-than-th

I posted a link to an article about a new attempt at a meat replacer?
That's pushing an agenda? That's "hollier-than-thou"? Poor little
snowflakes

On Wed, 16 May 2018 22:48:01 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 5/16/2018 4:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>>>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>>>
>>> Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
>>> last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.
>>>
>> It won't be any different. He really needs to stop pushing his agenda.
>> It's not going to change the way anyone eats.
>
>But it does help reinforce most people's opinions that many
>vegetarians are hollier-than-th

I posted a link to an article about a new attempt at a meat
replacement.
That's pushing an agenda? That's "hollier-than-thou"? Poor little
snowflakes

On Thu, 17 May 2018 00:18:42 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2018 13:56:23 +1000, Freegan Vegan wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 22:48:01 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/16/2018 4:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>>>>>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
>>>>> last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.
>>>>>
>>>> It won't be any different. He really needs to stop pushing his agenda.
>>>> It's not going to change the way anyone eats.
>>>
>>>But it does help reinforce most people's opinions that many
>>>vegetarians are hollier-than-th
>>
>> I posted a link to an article about a new attempt at a meat
>> replacement.
>> That's pushing an agenda? That's "hollier-than-thou"? Poor little
>> snowflakes
>
>Yeah, you never push an agenda. Poor, oppressed "Now you can eat
>meat without animal cruelty" B?uce.

Well... even a meat eater will have to admit that it sucks to be
slaughtered to be eaten. Take the animal out of the meat eating and
everybody wins. If the replacement is good, that is.

On Thu, 17 May 2018 00:18:42 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2018 13:56:23 +1000, Freegan Vegan wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 May 2018 22:48:01 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:49 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/16/2018 4:02 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>>>>>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
>>>>> last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.
>>>>>
>>>> It won't be any different. He really needs to stop pushing his agenda.
>>>> It's not going to change the way anyone eats.
>>>
>>>But it does help reinforce most people's opinions that many
>>>vegetarians are hollier-than-th
>>
>> I posted a link to an article about a new attempt at a meat
>> replacement.
>> That's pushing an agenda? That's "hollier-than-thou"? Poor little
>> snowflakes
>
>Yeah, you never push an agenda. Poor, oppressed "Now you can eat
>meat without animal cruelty" B?uce.

Well... even a meat eater will have to admit that it sucks to be
slaughtered to be eaten. Take the animal out of the meat eating and
everybody wins. If the replacement is good, that is.

On Wed, 16 May 2018 13:02:45 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
>> ingredient list is reasonable:
>>
>> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>
>
>Didn't we already have this discussion? Ok, that was vegetarian bacon
>last August, but I can't imagine the discussion will be any different.

My question is if this is a breakthrough or just another bad meat
imitation.

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
> ingredient list is reasonable:
>
> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>

Veggie burgers cost more than real burgers.

Too much iron kills many men before their time.

On Thu, 17 May 2018 17:47:20 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>Too much iron kills many men before their time.

Especially when it falls on their head.

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2018 17:47:20 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>> Too much iron kills many men before their time.
>
> Especially when it falls on their head.
>

Dang I wish the folks here would stop trying to force you to eat meat.

It's awful when people push themselves on others.

On Thu, 17 May 2018 21:39:52 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 17:47:20 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>>
>>> Too much iron kills many men before their time.
>>
>> Especially when it falls on their head.
>>
>
>Dang I wish the folks here would stop trying to force you to eat meat.
>
>It's awful when people push themselves on others.

I posted an innocent link to a "groundbreaking" new meat replacement.
I'm not responsible for the whole meat eating discussion that
followed.

Just like, when someone posts a meat recipe, I don't see that as an
attempt to make me eat meat.

On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 9:51:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> I posted an innocent link to a "groundbreaking" new meat replacement.
> I'm not responsible for the whole meat eating discussion that
> followed.
>
>
https://s31.postimg.cc/liovqbeuz/Vegetarians.jpg

On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 9:51:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> I posted an innocent link to a "groundbreaking" new meat replacement.
> I'm not responsible for the whole meat eating discussion that
> followed.
>
> Just like, when someone posts a meat recipe, I don't see that as an
> attempt to make me eat meat.
>
>
https://s31.postimg.cc/liovqbeuz/Vegetarians.jpg

On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> Now you can eat meat without animal cruelty. I'd try it if the
> ingredient list is reasonable:
>
> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-5731071/Vegan-plant-based-steak-Vivera-launches-Tesco-supermarket-tastes-looks-just-like-meat.html>

I'm surprised I can post now.