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On 2018-05-08 9:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/7/2018 10:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
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>>> Lol. And who knows what fake vanilla's made of. A side product of the
>>> petrochemical industry perhaps.
>>>

>>
>> A lot of it comes from the pulp wood processing. For about a yer I
>> lived in a small city that had several paper millsÂ* and we frequently
>> smelled vanilla in the air.

>
> Really?!Â* I can remember travelling across the US as a kid and when we'd
> drive through an area with pulp mills we had to roll up the car windows.
> Â*It stunk to high heaven and certainly did not smell like vanilla.
>


Maybe I should have said sometimes instead of often. Most of the time it
the emissions did not smell good, but sometimes there was a pleasant
vanilla smell.


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On Mon, 7 May 2018 19:16:23 -0500, Hank Rogers >
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>Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 May 2018 00:23:49 +0100, Janet > wrote:
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>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 2018-05-07 11:04 AM,
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>>>>>> On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:44:29 -0600, gloria p >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/7/2018 1:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>> I just heard that the place we all get our vanilla from has had big
>>>>>>>> problems with it's crops and now vanilla is the same price as silver!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> http//www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There have been crop problems with vanilla growers all over the world,
>>>>>>> causing the price to skyrocket. I wonder whether it's true or growers
>>>>>>> have just agreed to raise prices. Vanilla is grown in so many places
>>>>>>> it's unlikely all crops would fail at once.
>>>>>>> gloria p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For most uses modern chemistry has produced vanilla flavoring that
>>>>>> can't be distinguished from real vanilla... nowadays it's silly to use
>>>>>> real vanilla in dishes that will be heated, save your real vanilla for
>>>>>> icecream, whipped cream, and other cold usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slight correction there. You can't taste the difference. Other people can.
>>>>
>>>> I have actually read in countless places that what he says is true. In fact
>>>> they say that the vanilla flavor is more pronounced in baked goods with the
>>>> imitation vanilla.
>>>
>>> You mean, the fake vanilla flavour is unmissable in baked goods made
>>> with fake vanilla.

>>
>> Lol. And who knows what fake vanilla's made of. A side product of the
>> petrochemical industry perhaps.
>>

>
>Perhaps, but *IF* it has exactly the same molecular structure as
>vanillin, who cares, even if it was made from a turd dipped in crude oil?
>
>Of course, there are other flavinoids in vanilla, which give it a taste
>some can distinguish, but vanillin is the main contributor.
>
>Petroleum is used to synthesize many, many things, because it is a
>hydrocarbon and an ideal starting point.


Silly to be concerned, most every prepared food product at market
contains artificial flavoring/coloring... and if you think your local
bakery isn't using artificial vanilla and other artificial flavoring
then you're living under a rock. And those complainers are who over
dose on diet sodas 27/7.
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On Mon, 7 May 2018 18:42:20 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
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>On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 9:18:13 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
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>> I have actually read in countless places that what he says is true. In fact
>> they say that the vanilla flavor is more pronounced in baked goods with the
>> imitation vanilla.

>
>I've bought a quart of imitation vanilla flavor because it was dirt cheap. For some reason, I dumped the stuff down the drain. I don't remember why. My guess is that I needed the container.



I doubt you ever bought a quart of anything.
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On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 5:48:48 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
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> I doubt you ever bought a quart of anything.


Yoose forget that I am a lover of truth and as such, am not likely to make up random alternate truths in order to make myself look good in the minds of others and myself.

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Ironically, that's vanilla beans in booze. It's been in that container for about 6 years. The way I figured it, the bottle had more value than the contents so I poured that shit down the drain. Perhaps I should have dumped it in the turlet to make it smell like a big bowl of Jell-O pudding.
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