On 2018-04-29 11:44 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Lots of people are looking forward to legalization in about two months.
>> There are two large pot operations within two miles of my house, and
>> there are plans for another.
>
> It's a druggie society evidently. I tired of that nonsense almost
> 38 years ago. Still illegal here although penalties have been
> lowered. Eventially they will make it legal here and I will grow
> it as very beautiful house plants but I have no desire to harvest
> and smoke. yawn and old day stuff, to me.

There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young. Based on
what I smell when I am driving around by motorcycle or out bicycling, I
would say that lots of people are already driving around stoned. I don't
imagine that legalization is going to make it any more of a problem.

If this was happening 30-40 years ago I would have been lined up at the
doors on opening day of the pot shops, but I have no interest in it
now. The last thing I need right now is to take up a form of smoking, or
getting a case of the munchies.

On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.Â* I don't know why. Just as many
> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.

It's been my observation that people should worry more about
people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.

As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
for a joint and winding up with a record.

nancy

On 2018-04-29 7:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.Â* I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.


Yes indeed. That is a major problem. It is much worse than driving under
the influence of pot and worse than driving drunk. A couple says ago I
was out for a motorcycle ride with a friend and an oncoming car wandered
over to the shoulder and then swerved back and over the centre line
before he got back to the middle of his lane. As he went by me I could
see that he was looking at a hand held device.
>
> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
> for a joint and winding up with a record.

That happened to a friend of mine. At the age of 18 he got busted for a
nickle bag of pot and got five years in jail for it.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 20:09:25 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-04-29 7:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.* I don't know why. Just as many
>>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>>
>> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>> people driving under the influence of cell phones.* My trip to
>> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>
>Yes indeed. That is a major problem. It is much worse than driving under
>the influence of pot and worse than driving drunk. A couple says ago I
>was out for a motorcycle ride with a friend and an oncoming car wandered
>over to the shoulder and then swerved back and over the centre line
>before he got back to the middle of his lane. As he went by me I could
>see that he was looking at a hand held device.
>>
>> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>> for a joint and winding up with a record.
>
>That happened to a friend of mine. At the age of 18 he got busted for a
>nickle bag of pot and got five years in jail for it.

You people live in harsh countries.

On 4/29/2018 8:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-04-29 7:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
>> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>
> Yes indeed. That is a major problem. It is much worse than driving under
> the influence of pot and worse than driving drunk.Â* A couple says ago I
> was out for a motorcycle ride with a friend and an oncoming car wandered
> over to the shoulder and then swerved back and over the centre line
> before he got back to the middle of his lane. As he went by me I could
> see that he was looking at a hand held device.

It's all over the place. I pick them out, watch this one. Can't
maintain a lane, or their speed, or they stop for a light 3 cars
back. Can't wait to get to the phone.
>> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>> for a joint and winding up with a record.
>
> That happened to a friend of mine. At the age of 18 he got busted for a
> nickle bag of pot and got five years in jail for it.

FIVE YEARS. Now, that's a crime.

nancy

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:57:09 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.* I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
>It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
>DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>for a joint and winding up with a record.

And the guy who throws you in jail then goes home and hits the
bourbon.

"Nancy Young" wrote in message news
On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.

It's been my observation that people should worry more about
people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.

As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
for a joint and winding up with a record.

nancy

==

Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
one you will be in real trouble.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
> one you will be in real trouble.

Makes me wonder how we all survived before cell phones started
up. Most everyone these days are so addicted to them and many
that I see are talking, not texting or using the internet. Seems
now, so many people can't even leave the house for a few minutes
without talking to someone. I really don't get it.

When I go out anywhere, I'd carry the cell phone in the car just
for breakdown emergencies but only that. I keep it with me but
have it turned off.

Also very rude these days is when you are talking to someone in
person then their cell phone rings. Most times, they just have to
answer right away and put you (in person) on "hold." WTH? I've
never done that to someone. When I am talking to someone and a
call comes in, I ignore the phone. The caller can leave a
voicemail and I'll call them back in a bit.

These days, everyone acts like they are doctors on call and have
to answer immediately.

On 2018-04-30 7:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:

> Also very rude these days is when you are talking to someone in
> person then their cell phone rings. Most times, they just have to
> answer right away and put you (in person) on "hold." WTH? I've
> never done that to someone. When I am talking to someone and a
> call comes in, I ignore the phone. The caller can leave a
> voicemail and I'll call them back in a bit.

I get so few calls that I do check to see who it is, and sometimes it is
important. Sometimes I am expecting an important call. I can forgive
someone checking to see who is calling and explains they have to take
the call. What I see, that I think is very rude, is people in
conversations taking their phone out and constantly checking it.... for
what? Calls and texts usually have a tone, so maybe they are checking
Facebook or Instagram? It's very rude.



> These days, everyone acts like they are doctors on call and have
> to answer immediately.

I can't understand why people out walking or shopping have to have a
phone glued to their ear. There can't be that much going on in their
lives if they have the time to be out.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
> one you will be in real trouble.

Makes me wonder how we all survived before cell phones started
up. Most everyone these days are so addicted to them and many
that I see are talking, not texting or using the internet. Seems
now, so many people can't even leave the house for a few minutes
without talking to someone. I really don't get it.

When I go out anywhere, I'd carry the cell phone in the car just
for breakdown emergencies but only that. I keep it with me but
have it turned off.

Also very rude these days is when you are talking to someone in
person then their cell phone rings. Most times, they just have to
answer right away and put you (in person) on "hold." WTH? I've
never done that to someone. When I am talking to someone and a
call comes in, I ignore the phone. The caller can leave a
voicemail and I'll call them back in a bit.

These days, everyone acts like they are doctors on call and have
to answer immediately.

==

Yes, that is the same here Most people (and especially children and young
people) have their noses into their cell phones walking along the streets.
Without the law about phones in the car, I can imagine they would be doing
it there too

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted
>> using
>> one you will be in real trouble.
>
> Makes me wonder how we all survived before cell phones started
> up. Most everyone these days are so addicted to them and many
> that I see are talking, not texting or using the internet. Seems
> now, so many people can't even leave the house for a few minutes
> without talking to someone. I really don't get it.
>
> When I go out anywhere, I'd carry the cell phone in the car just
> for breakdown emergencies but only that. I keep it with me but
> have it turned off.
>
> Also very rude these days is when you are talking to someone in
> person then their cell phone rings. Most times, they just have to
> answer right away and put you (in person) on "hold." WTH? I've
> never done that to someone. When I am talking to someone and a
> call comes in, I ignore the phone. The caller can leave a
> voicemail and I'll call them back in a bit.
>
> These days, everyone acts like they are doctors on call and have
> to answer immediately.
>
> ==
>
> Yes, that is the same here Most people (and especially children and
> young people) have their noses into their cell phones walking along the
> streets. Without the law about phones in the car, I can imagine they would
> be doing it there too

We have that law about cell phones and driving here in CA too but it doesn't
stop them. I can't tell you how many times you see it just going across
town.

Cheri

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Nancy Young" wrote in message news >
>On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
>It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
>DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>for a joint and winding up with a record.
>
>nancy
>
>==
>
>Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
>one you will be in real trouble.

Isn't it illegal everywhere?

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:10:07 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Nancy Young" wrote in message news >>
>>On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
>>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>>
>>It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>>people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
>>DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>>
>>As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>>gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>>for a joint and winding up with a record.
>>
>>nancy
>>
>>==
>>
>>Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
>>one you will be in real trouble.
>
>Isn't it illegal everywhere?

It's been illegal here for several years now. You can use it with
blue tooth, I do occasionally.

wrote:

> It's been illegal here for several years now. You can use it with
> blue tooth, I do occasionally.

That's not even good. When driving, ALL of your attention should
be on driving. NO distractions whatsoever. Even using remote blue
tooth takes away your attention. Listening to someone or talking
is NOT paying attention to your driving and to other drivers.

Every see a very bad car crash? Turn your phone off while
driving.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:51:15 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>
>> It's been illegal here for several years now. You can use it with
>> blue tooth, I do occasionally.
>
>That's not even good. When driving, ALL of your attention should
>be on driving. NO distractions whatsoever. Even using remote blue
>tooth takes away your attention. Listening to someone or talking
>is NOT paying attention to your driving and to other drivers.
>
>Every see a very bad car crash? Turn your phone off while
>driving.

So when you have passengers, you don't talk to them??

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:51:15 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>
>> It's been illegal here for several years now. You can use it with
>> blue tooth, I do occasionally.
>
>That's not even good. When driving, ALL of your attention should
>be on driving. NO distractions whatsoever. Even using remote blue
>tooth takes away your attention. Listening to someone or talking
>is NOT paying attention to your driving and to other drivers.
>
>Every see a very bad car crash? Turn your phone off while
>driving.

What about listening to the radio then?

On 2018-04-30 8:59 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:10:07 +1000, Bruce >

>>
>> Isn't it illegal everywhere?
>
> It's been illegal here for several years now. You can use it with
> blue tooth, I do occasionally.

I have to say that I am distracted enough with a hands free telephone
conversation.

On 2018-04-30 8:10 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >

>> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
>> one you will be in real trouble.
>
> Isn't it illegal everywhere?

This cite is a little outdated but it shows the diversity of US state
laws regarding cell phone use by drivers.

Some states can all cell phone use for young drivers. Some places ban it
only for school bus drivers. Some had no restrictions at all.



https://www.pcworld.com/article/2465...k_the_law.html

On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 8:10:08 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Nancy Young" wrote in message news > >
> >On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
> >> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
> >> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
> >
> >It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> >people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
> >DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
> >
> >As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
> >gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
> >for a joint and winding up with a record.
> >
> >nancy
> >
> >==
> >
> >Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
> >one you will be in real trouble.
>
> Isn't it illegal everywhere?

In the U.S., it's a matter of state law. Not all states have laws
against using cellphones while driving. Here's a summary:

<http://www.ncsl.org/research/transportation/cellular-phone-use-and-texting-while-driving-laws.aspx>

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 06:07:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 8:10:08 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Nancy Young" wrote in message news >> >
>> >On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> >> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
>> >> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>> >
>> >It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>> >people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
>> >DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>> >
>> >As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>> >gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>> >for a joint and winding up with a record.
>> >
>> >nancy
>> >
>> >==
>> >
>> >Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted using
>> >one you will be in real trouble.
>>
>> Isn't it illegal everywhere?
>
>In the U.S., it's a matter of state law. Not all states have laws
>against using cellphones while driving. Here's a summary:
>
><http://www.ncsl.org/research/transportation/cellular-phone-use-and-texting-while-driving-laws.aspx>

They'd better get their act together then.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 06:07:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 8:10:08 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"Nancy Young" wrote in message news >>> >
>>> >On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>>> >> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as
>>> >> many
>>> >> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>>> >
>>> >It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>>> >people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
>>> >DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>>> >
>>> >As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
>>> >gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
>>> >for a joint and winding up with a record.
>>> >
>>> >nancy
>>> >
>>> >==
>>> >
>>> >Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted
>>> >using
>>> >one you will be in real trouble.
>>>
>>> Isn't it illegal everywhere?
>>
>>In the U.S., it's a matter of state law. Not all states have laws
>>against using cellphones while driving. Here's a summary:
>>
>><http://www.ncsl.org/research/transportation/cellular-phone-use-and-texting-while-driving-laws.aspx>
>
> They'd better get their act together then.


It will probably take the death of one of the lawmakers own before it's
changed in many places. Then the outrage will be out of this world. Yes, I
am cynical about some things.

Cheri

Cheri

Pot isn't legal in NH yet, other than medical. The Live Free or Die state is lagging behind, I guess. Despite coming of age in the '60s, I've never even smoked a joint, but if it ever gets legalized here, I do intend to eat a pot brownie before I die, and if it helps my arthritic back and spazzy muscles, I just might have to become a pothead. There's a medical pot dispensary less than a mile away.

Denise in NH

On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young"Â* wrote

> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.

> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here.Â* If you are spotted
> using one you will be in real trouble.

It's illegal here, too. Unless there happens to be a cop right
there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.

nancy

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:40:00 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young"* wrote
>
>> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>> people driving under the influence of cell phones.* My trip to
>> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
>> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here.* If you are spotted
>> using one you will be in real trouble.
>
>It's illegal here, too. Unless there happens to be a cop right
>there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.
>
>nancy

It's been illegal here for maybe five years or more and I rarely see
anyone holding a phone anymore, suffice to say, if I do, I notice them
now!

On 2018-04-30 7:00 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:40:00 -0400, Nancy Young >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Nancy Young"Â* wrote
>>
>>> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>>> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
>>> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>>
>>> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here.Â* If you are spotted
>>> using one you will be in real trouble.
>>
>> It's illegal here, too. Unless there happens to be a cop right
>> there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.
>>
>> nancy
>
> It's been illegal here for maybe five years or more and I rarely see
> anyone holding a phone anymore, suffice to say, if I do, I notice them
> now!
>
It's illegal here too but one still sees idiots ignoring the law. One
case I saw recently was a car in front of me that was very slow to react
to light changes and it was being driven haphazardly. So I overtook as
soon as I could. It turned out to be an elderly woman texting!.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 07:11:00 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-04-30 7:00 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:40:00 -0400, Nancy Young >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy Young"* wrote
>>>
>>>> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
>>>> people driving under the influence of cell phones.* My trip to
>>>> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>>>
>>>> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here.* If you are spotted
>>>> using one you will be in real trouble.
>>>
>>> It's illegal here, too. Unless there happens to be a cop right
>>> there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> It's been illegal here for maybe five years or more and I rarely see
>> anyone holding a phone anymore, suffice to say, if I do, I notice them
>> now!
>>
>It's illegal here too but one still sees idiots ignoring the law. One
>case I saw recently was a car in front of me that was very slow to react
>to light changes and it was being driven haphazardly. So I overtook as
>soon as I could. It turned out to be an elderly woman texting!.

Heh! Wasn't me

On 2018-04-30 9:11 AM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-04-30 7:00 AM, wrote:

> It's illegal here too but one still sees idiots ignoring the law. One
> case I saw recently was a car in front of me that was very slow to react
> to light changes and it was being driven haphazardly. So I overtook as
> soon as I could. It turned out to be an elderly woman texting!.


About to weeks ago I was stopped at a traffic light and could see in my
mirror that the driver behind me was texting. When the light changed I
just sat there, wondering if he would notice the light change. He
didn't. So I waited until the light turned amber then went through, and
he was stuck at the red light.

On 2018-04-30, graham > wrote:

> It's illegal here too but one still sees idiots ignoring the law. One
> case I saw recently was a car in front of me that was very slow to react
> to light changes and it was being driven haphazardly. So I overtook as
> soon as I could. It turned out to be an elderly woman texting!.

I totally avoid that problem. I leave my cell phone at home, jes like
my former landline. Besides, I do NOT even have txting and picture
Tx/Rx privileges!

nb

On 2018-04-30 9:00 AM, wrote:

>> It's illegal here, too. Unless there happens to be a cop right
>> there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.
>>
>> nancy
>
> It's been illegal here for maybe five years or more and I rarely see
> anyone holding a phone anymore, suffice to say, if I do, I notice them
> now!

It has been illegal here for about the same amount of time, but it is
still so common that they recently boosted the penalties. People still
do it. Just the other day when I was out on the bike and saw an
oncoming car hit the shoulder, then over the centre line.... he was
looking at his device.

On 2018-04-30 8:12 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-04-30 9:00 AM, wrote:
>
>>> It's illegal here, too.Â* Unless there happens to be a cop right
>>> there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> It's been illegal here for maybe five years or more and I rarely see
>> anyone holding a phone anymore, suffice to say, if I do, I notice them
>> now!
>
> It has been illegal here for about the same amount of time, but it is
> still so common that they recently boosted the penalties. People still
> do it.Â* Just the other day when I was out on the bike and saw an
> oncoming car hit the shoulder, then over the centre line.... he was
> looking at his device.
>
>
>
OTOH I was following a car through the mountains on HW1 and it kept
drifting onto the shoulder and then back again. I thought that the
driver was one of those people (especially women*) who believe in making
eye contact when conversing. When I had the opportunity to pass, I was
right! She was drifting over when she turned to face her passenger as
she talked and had to correct when she wasn't.
*Lucretia - this is not a misogynistic but based on countless
observations. I have seen very few men do this.

Nancy Young wrote:

> On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Nancy Young"Â* wrote
>
> > It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> > people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
> > DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
> > Using cell phones while driving is illegal here.Â* If you are spotted
> > using one you will be in real trouble.
>
> It's illegal here, too. Unless there happens to be a cop right
> there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.


There are "red light" cameras, maybe someone will come up with "talking on cellphone" cameras...

;-)


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Best
Greg

"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young" wrote

> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.

> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted
> using one you will be in real trouble.

It's illegal here, too. Unless there happens to be a cop right
there, you're not going to get into trouble with the law.

nancy

==

They are very hot on it here! Even if you are just sitting in the car
waiting for traffic lights to change, you will get pulled up!

On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young"Â* wrote in message news >
> On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.Â* I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
> for a joint and winding up with a record.
>
> nancy
>
> ==
>
> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here.Â* If you are spotted
> using one you will be in real trouble.

It's illegal here, too, Oph. Heavy fines. The problem is there are
more drivers with cell phones than there are cops to enforce it.

I doubt there is an immediate solution. Pandora's Box has been open for
a long time. Most people aren't willing to give up their precious cell
phones. (I certainly don't understand it.)

I've been seeing ads for Ford Motor Company cars that have a "parental
control" feature. An extra clicker for when their teens are out in the
car. One of the features sets it so cell phones inside the car go
straight to voicemail. Sounds like an excellent feature to me, maybe it
should become standard equipment and across all brands. Sorry folks,
your phones aren't going to work while you're driving.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 4/30/2018 6:35 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young" wrote in message news >
> On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving. I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> people driving under the influence of cell phones. My trip to
> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
> for a joint and winding up with a record.
>
> nancy
>
> ==
>
> Using cell phones while driving is illegal here. If you are spotted
> using one you will be in real trouble.

It's illegal here, too, Oph. Heavy fines. The problem is there are
more drivers with cell phones than there are cops to enforce it.

I doubt there is an immediate solution. Pandora's Box has been open for
a long time. Most people aren't willing to give up their precious cell
phones. (I certainly don't understand it.)

I've been seeing ads for Ford Motor Company cars that have a "parental
control" feature. An extra clicker for when their teens are out in the
car. One of the features sets it so cell phones inside the car go
straight to voicemail. Sounds like an excellent feature to me, maybe it
should become standard equipment and across all brands. Sorry folks,
your phones aren't going to work while you're driving.

Jill

==

Now that sounds like a good solution)

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "jmcquown" wrote in message ...

> I've been seeing ads for Ford Motor Company cars that have a "parental
> control" feature. An extra clicker for when their teens are out in the
> car. One of the features sets it so cell phones inside the car go
> straight to voicemail. Sounds like an excellent feature to me, maybe it
> should become standard equipment and across all brands. Sorry folks, your
> phones aren't going to work while you're driving.
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> Now that sounds like a good solution)

Except the emergency calls need to be able to go through which is probably
accounted for.

Cheri

On 5/1/2018 12:07 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown"* wrote in message ...
>
>> I've been seeing ads for Ford Motor Company cars that have a "parental
>> control" feature.* An extra clicker for when their teens are out in
>> the car.* One of the features sets it so cell phones inside the car go
>> straight to voicemail.* Sounds like an excellent feature to me, maybe
>> it should become standard equipment and across all brands.* Sorry
>> folks, your phones aren't going to work while you're driving.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Now that sounds like a good solution)
>
> Except the emergency calls need to be able to go through which is
> probably accounted for.
>
> Cheri
>
>
That's a good point. I do know even if a cell phone account is
deactivated, as long as there is a working battery you can use it to
call 911. I'm not sure how this blocking technology could work in an
emergency with shut off cell phones. Kind of a start of an idea,
though, to get people to really stop trying to use their cell phones
when they should be focused on driving.

Jill

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "jmcquown" wrote in message ...

> I've been seeing ads for Ford Motor Company cars that have a "parental
> control" feature. An extra clicker for when their teens are out in the
> car. One of the features sets it so cell phones inside the car go
> straight to voicemail. Sounds like an excellent feature to me, maybe it
> should become standard equipment and across all brands. Sorry folks, your
> phones aren't going to work while you're driving.
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> Now that sounds like a good solution)

Except the emergency calls need to be able to go through which is probably
accounted for.

Cheri
==

I would hope so! I hadn't thought of that!

On 4/29/2018 7:57 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of press these days on the fear that legalization will
>> lead to lots of drug impaired driving.Â* I don't know why. Just as many
>> young people are smoking dope as there were when I was young.
>
> It's been my observation that people should worry more about
> people driving under the influence of cell phones.Â* My trip to
> DC and back shows it's as bad as ever.
>
I've been seeing ads for Ford vehicles with "parental controls". It's a
separate clicker gadget. The ads feature teens complaining to their
parents that their cell phones go straight to voicemail when they're in
the car. The music can't be cranked up [to the point you can't hear
emergency vehicles]. The car won't go over x MPH. Sounds like a good
use for technology. It may be geared towards parents but there have
been plenty of times when I wished I could just point and click at a car
to turn the *blasting* music down or shut off their cell phones.

> As far as pot being a gateway drug, I can say one thing, the
> gateway to a crappy life can start with being tossed in jail
> for a joint and winding up with a record.
>
I see no point in throwing the Average Joe in prison for, say, 5 years,
for nothing more than the possession of a couple of joints.

Jill

On 4/29/2018 1:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> If this was happening 30-40 years ago I would have been lined up at the
> doors on opening day of the pot shops,Â* but I have no interest in it
> now. The last thing I need right now is to take up a form of smoking, or
> getting a case of the munchies.

You never heard of pot brownies or muffins? Seems like that would take
care of the munchies problem at the same time.

Jill