As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've ever
had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for 1/8 of a
teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried navy beans. I
have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In fact towards the
end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little more. I also added
extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up some celery. And I
added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of bacon. That seemed
like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really count but perhaps 12
strips.

Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!

On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 6:47:08 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've ever
> had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for 1/8 of a
> teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried navy beans. I
> have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In fact towards the
> end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little more. I also added
> extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up some celery. And I
> added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of bacon. That seemed
> like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really count but perhaps 12
> strips.
>
> Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!

When I was a young boy, I got it in my mind that cloves would go good in stew so I made beef stew seasoned with cloves. It tasted pretty much the way that I had it in my brainpan but my mom suggested that it was odd. It must have been pretty bad if my mom said a discouraging word about it so I never did it again. OTOH, I thought it was okay.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 6:47:08 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've
> ever
> had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for 1/8 of
> a
> teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried navy beans. I
> have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In fact towards
> the
> end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little more. I also added
> extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up some celery. And I
> added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of bacon. That seemed
> like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really count but perhaps 12
> strips.
>
> Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!

When I was a young boy, I got it in my mind that cloves would go good in
stew so I made beef stew seasoned with cloves. It tasted pretty much the way
that I had it in my brainpan but my mom suggested that it was odd. It must
have been pretty bad if my mom said a discouraging word about it so I never
did it again. OTOH, I thought it was okay.

---

Thanks!

On 4/5/2018 12:47 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've
> ever had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for
> 1/8 of a teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried
> navy beans. I have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In
> fact towards the end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little
> more. I also added extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up
> some celery. And I added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of
> bacon. That seemed like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really
> count but perhaps 12 strips.
>
> Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!

I generally add a whole clove to the stock for my chicken soup.

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 21:47:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've ever
>had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for 1/8 of a
>teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried navy beans. I
>have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In fact towards the
>end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little more. I also added
>extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up some celery. And I
>added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of bacon. That seemed
>like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really count but perhaps 12
>strips.
>
>Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!

I usually add cloves to bean soups and to beef stews... but not
powdered, I use 1 or 2 whole cloves stuck in an onion. But need to be
careful not to add too much or the clove flavor will dominate.

wrote:
>
> I usually add cloves to bean soups and to beef stews... but not
> powdered, I use 1-2 whole cloves stuck in my ass while cooking.

No worries using powdered cloves vs whole though. Just use lots
less like "just a pinch." I've never added any cloves to soups or
stews but I might look up and compare some recipes sometime. I
often look up many recipes for one dish, then pick and choose
between all ingredients to make my own recipe.

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 9:49:32 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> wrote:
> >
> > I usually add cloves to bean soups and to beef stews... but not
> > powdered, I use 1-2 whole cloves stuck in my ass while cooking.
>
>
Dammit Gary, stop! I can't quit laughing!!!

" wrote:
>
> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 9:49:32 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I usually add cloves to bean soups and to beef stews... but not
> > > powdered, I use 1-2 whole cloves stuck in my ass while cooking.
> >
> >
> Dammit Gary, stop! I can't quit laughing!!!

Dammit Joan, you weren't supposed to see that.

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 21:47:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've
>>ever
>>had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for 1/8 of
>>a
>>teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried navy beans. I
>>have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In fact towards
>>the
>>end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little more. I also added
>>extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up some celery. And I
>>added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of bacon. That seemed
>>like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really count but perhaps 12
>>strips.
>>
>>Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!
>
> I usually add cloves to bean soups and to beef stews... but not
> powdered, I use 1 or 2 whole cloves stuck in an onion. But need to be
> careful not to add too much or the clove flavor will dominate.

Thanks!

Julie Bove wrote:
> As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've ever
> had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for 1/8 of a
> teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried navy beans. I
> have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In fact towards the
> end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little more. I also added
> extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up some celery. And I
> added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of bacon. That seemed
> like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really count but perhaps 12
> strips.
>
> Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!

the easter ham usually is cooked with cloves so
it's just in there anyways.

the only other thing we've cooked with cloves is
chili sauce.


songbird

"songbird" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've
>> ever
>> had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for 1/8 of
>> a
>> teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried navy beans.
>> I
>> have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In fact towards
>> the
>> end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little more. I also added
>> extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up some celery. And I
>> added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of bacon. That seemed
>> like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really count but perhaps 12
>> strips.
>>
>> Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!
>
> the easter ham usually is cooked with cloves so
> it's just in there anyways.
>
> the only other thing we've cooked with cloves is
> chili sauce.

Thanks! I add some to my chili sauce too!

Clove caps are good for bg Julie.

> wrote in message
...
> Clove caps are good for bg Julie.

I don't know about that but the last time I took supplement advice from you,
my neuropathy increased due to excess B vitamin intake.

On 4/5/2018 12:47 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've
> ever had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for
> 1/8 of a teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried
> navy beans. I have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In
> fact towards the end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little
> more. I also added extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up
> some celery. And I added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of
> bacon. That seemed like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really
> count but perhaps 12 strips.
>
> Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!

Well lookie there! She found something she likes.

I don't use cloves often but one or two can add a punch to soups.

Jill

On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 17:36:24 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 4/5/2018 12:47 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've
>> ever had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for
>> 1/8 of a teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried
>> navy beans. I have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In
>> fact towards the end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little
>> more. I also added extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up
>> some celery. And I added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of
>> bacon. That seemed like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really
>> count but perhaps 12 strips.
>>
>> Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!
>
>Well lookie there! She found something she likes.
>
>I don't use cloves often but one or two can add a punch to soups.
>
>Jill

Exactly... I usually add one or two whole cloves to bean or beef
soups, stick them in an onion for easy retrieval just don't go
overboard. Cloves don't work in chicken soup

On 4/6/2018 7:52 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 17:36:24 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/5/2018 12:47 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've
>>> ever had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for
>>> 1/8 of a teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried
>>> navy beans. I have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In
>>> fact towards the end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little
>>> more. I also added extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up
>>> some celery. And I added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of
>>> bacon. That seemed like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really
>>> count but perhaps 12 strips.
>>>
>>> Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!
>>
>> Well lookie there! She found something she likes.
>>
>> I don't use cloves often but one or two can add a punch to soups.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Exactly... I usually add one or two whole cloves to bean or beef
> soups, stick them in an onion for easy retrieval just don't go
> overboard. Cloves don't work in chicken soup
>
I agree, no cloves in chicken soup. I like the idea of studding an
onion with cloves but I never make soup in the quantity you do so I
likely won't try that.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I like the idea of studding an
> onion with cloves but I never make soup in the quantity you do so I
> likely won't try that.

I never use whole cloves to stud anything. Then you have to
retrieve them. I use powdered cloves and add a tiny pinch as
called for to equal what whole cloves would do.

I once could only find whole cloves so I turned them into powder
in my coffee grinder. For awhile, no matter how much I tried to
clean the coffee grinder, my coffee always had a hint of clove
for a long time. lol
Clove flavored coffee is not so good.

Then years later, I turned my coffee grinder into powdering dry
ferret food to make the traditional warm gravy meal that they
loved. Last time I used it was to make more for Mia so it's still
got ferret food dust. It still works well but I'll just save it
for use for future ferrets meals.

The fresh ground coffee each day is so overrated and worthless to
me. I would never buy another grinder for coffee beans, only for
ferret gravy meal powder.

The cans of ground coffee taste no different from fresh grinding
beans each morning to me. Waste of time and effort, imo.

On 2018-04-07 12:43 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>

> I once could only find whole cloves so I turned them into powder
> in my coffee grinder. For awhile, no matter how much I tried to
> clean the coffee grinder, my coffee always had a hint of clove
> for a long time. lol
> Clove flavored coffee is not so good.

I can see that happening. I will not use a coffee grinder in a store
because they invariably have traces of flavoured coffees that have been
ground in it. If I wanted flavoured coffee I would buy it, but I hate
the stuff and the residue is enough to taint mine.


> The cans of ground coffee taste no different from fresh grinding
> beans each morning to me. Waste of time and effort, imo.

You have been following Sheldon's posts too long. You inability to
detect the difference does not mean that other people cannot. Maybe it
doesn't make much difference with the low quality coffee that you buy,
but people who spent the extra money to get good coffee and go to the
effort to make a good cup of coffee can tell the difference.

On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 11:43:41 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> The fresh ground coffee each day is so overrated and worthless to
> me. I would never buy another grinder for coffee beans, only for
> ferret gravy meal powder.
>
I use a burr grinder and I can taste the difference in the coffee
when I grind my beans fresh each day. I also keep my unground
beans in an airtight container.
>
> The cans of ground coffee taste no different from fresh grinding
> beans each morning to me. Waste of time and effort, imo.
>
I'm no coffee aficionada but I can taste difference in fresh ground
and pre-ground cans.

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:50:43 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 4/6/2018 7:52 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 17:36:24 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/5/2018 12:47 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> As I type this, I am eating one of the best bean with bacon soups I've
>>>> ever had. I had to do a double take at the recipe because it called for
>>>> 1/8 of a teaspoon of powdered cloves. The recipe has a pound of dried
>>>> navy beans. I have never added cloves to soup before, but I tried it. In
>>>> fact towards the end, I tried the soup and decided to add even a little
>>>> more. I also added extra celery, including the leaves, mainly to use up
>>>> some celery. And I added two diced carrots. Recipe called for a pound of
>>>> bacon. That seemed like too much so I added a lot less. I didn't really
>>>> count but perhaps 12 strips.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhoo... Ever added cloves to bean soup? Yummy!
>>>
>>> Well lookie there! She found something she likes.
>>>
>>> I don't use cloves often but one or two can add a punch to soups.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Exactly... I usually add one or two whole cloves to bean or beef
>> soups, stick them in an onion for easy retrieval just don't go
>> overboard. Cloves don't work in chicken soup
>>
>I agree, no cloves in chicken soup. I like the idea of studding an
>onion with cloves but I never make soup in the quantity you do so I
>likely won't try that.
>
>Jill

Easy to adjust the size of onion to the quantity of soup. When I buy
onions I choose a bag that contains lots of small onions. And for the
past few years I've been buying sweet onions. I like them better for
cooking and for salads. Naturaly there are many ways to add whole
cloves, can stick them into meat, or simply use a mesh teaball.

On 2018-04-07 10:50 AM, jmcquown wrote:


> I agree, no cloves in chicken soup.Â* I like the idea of studding an
> onion with cloves but I never make soup in the quantity you do so I
> likely won't try that.
>
> Jill

I detest cloves in such things as apple pie and that is a leftover from
school days when the cook always used them.
OTOH I add a small amount to tortière and stud an onion to flavour the
milk used in bread sauce etc.
Graham

On 4/7/2018 12:52 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-04-07 10:50 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>> I agree, no cloves in chicken soup.Â* I like the idea of studding an
>> onion with cloves but I never make soup in the quantity you do so I
>> likely won't try that.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I detest cloves in such things as apple pie and that is a leftover from
> school days when the cook always used them.
> OTOH I add a small amount to tortière and stud an onion to flavour the
> milk used in bread sauce etc.
> Graham

Well, I never had apple pie with cloves. Can't quite imagine it.

Jill

On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 10:52:40 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-04-07 10:50 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>> I agree, no cloves in chicken soup.* I like the idea of studding an
>> onion with cloves but I never make soup in the quantity you do so I
>> likely won't try that.
>>
>> Jill
>
>I detest cloves in such things as apple pie and that is a leftover from
>school days when the cook always used them.
>OTOH I add a small amount to tortière and stud an onion to flavour the
>milk used in bread sauce etc.
>Graham

I like all the Beeman's gums:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beemans_gum
Been there, still had to feed the crew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl1sDcWoWpE

"graham" > wrote in message
news
> On 2018-04-07 10:50 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>> I agree, no cloves in chicken soup. I like the idea of studding an onion
>> with cloves but I never make soup in the quantity you do so I likely
>> won't try that.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I detest cloves in such things as apple pie and that is a leftover from
> school days when the cook always used them.
> OTOH I add a small amount to tortière and stud an onion to flavour the
> milk used in bread sauce etc.
> Graham


I detest cloves period.

Cheri