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Show of hands, please:

How many people here own a steamer basket?

How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?

Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry
and even grill vegetables.

A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage
wedges. Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes
great. But I digress...

Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this,
given the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen
vegetable aisle.

In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.

Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.

So, to steam or not to steam?

Jill
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 13:59:51 -0500, jmcquown >
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>Show of hands, please:
>
>How many people here own a steamer basket?
>
>How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>
>Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry
>and even grill vegetables.
>
>A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage
>wedges. Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes
>great. But I digress...
>
>Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this,
>given the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen
>vegetable aisle.
>
>In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
>them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
>they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>
>Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>
>So, to steam or not to steam?
>
>Jill


I have a large steamer basket and a small steamer basket -- stainless
steel pots really.. I steam cabbage, corn on the cob, broccoli,
carrots, bell peppers for stuffing, Probably others, it's just not a
big deal, just another way of cooking. Remember, Julie hates steamed
vegetables.
You Are Not Alone!
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Show of hands, please:
>
> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>
> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>
> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry and
> even grill vegetables.
>
> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage wedges.
> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes great. But
> I digress...
>
> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this, given
> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen vegetable
> aisle.
>
> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>
> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>
> So, to steam or not to steam?
>
> Jill



I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to steam
artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the length it
takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.

Cheri

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On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 2:00:06 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> Show of hands, please:
>

So, to steam or not to steam?
>
> Jill


I never steam vegetables on the stovetop. I cook broccoli or (frozen)
green beans in the microwave. Fresh green beans are cooked in boiling
salted water until tender-crisp. I like grilled broccoli, onions,
zucchini or asparagus, and a variety of roasted vegetables.

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On 2/25/2018 2:08 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 13:59:51 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Show of hands, please:
>>
>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>
>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>
>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry
>> and even grill vegetables.
>>
>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage
>> wedges. Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes
>> great. But I digress...
>>
>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this,
>> given the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen
>> vegetable aisle.
>>
>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
>> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
>> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>>
>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>
>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>
>> Jill

>
> I have a large steamer basket and a small steamer basket -- stainless
> steel pots really.. I steam cabbage, corn on the cob, broccoli,
> carrots, bell peppers for stuffing, Probably others, it's just not a
> big deal, just another way of cooking. Remember, Julie hates steamed
> vegetables.
> You Are Not Alone!
> Janet US
>

I didn't really think I was alone... just she keeps making a big deal
about it.

Jill


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On 2/25/2018 2:32 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Show of hands, please:
>>
>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>
>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>
>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>> sort of slight.* She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry
>> and even grill vegetables.
>>
>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage
>> wedges. Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes
>> great.* But I digress...
>>
>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies?* Somehow I doubt this,
>> given the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen
>> vegetable aisle.
>>
>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables.* I either steam them or
>> heat them in the microwave with a little water.* So what?* It's not as
>> if they're bland and boring.* I know how to use herbs and spices.
>>
>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>
>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>
>> Jill

>
>
> I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to steam
> artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the length it
> takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>
> Cheri


I think most people do... unless they're only eating raw food.

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 13:59:51 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>Show of hands, please:
>
>How many people here own a steamer basket?
>
>How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>
>Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry
>and even grill vegetables.
>
>A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage
>wedges. Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes
>great. But I digress...
>
>Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this,
>given the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen
>vegetable aisle.
>
>In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
>them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
>they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>
>Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>
>So, to steam or not to steam?


I have 2 steamers. One is part of my set of pots and pans and is
fairly large. The other is a little collapsible one. The big one is
handy if I'm doing three or four different vegetables at one time. (I
like a lot of different colours on my plate.)

I steam a lot of vegetables instead of boiling them because it's
faster. Vegetables that I steam include green/yellow beans, asparagus,
carrots, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, brussels sprouts, potatoes,
corn, and turnips. I generally add butter or something to them after
they are cooked.

I also roast vegetables, stir-fry them, or serve them raw. It depends
on what they are being served with.

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:32:03 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> Show of hands, please:
>>
>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>
>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>
>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry and
>> even grill vegetables.
>>
>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage wedges.
>> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes great. But
>> I digress...
>>
>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this, given
>> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen vegetable
>> aisle.
>>
>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
>> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
>> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>>
>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>
>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>
>> Jill

>
>
>I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to steam
>artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the length it
>takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>
>Cheri


I'm with you, I nuke most stuff now that I used to steam. Takes a bit
of adjusting and failure, then you get the perfect times and
percentage for your nuker.
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:32:03 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> Show of hands, please:
>>
>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>
>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>
>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry and
>> even grill vegetables.
>>
>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage wedges.
>> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes great. But
>> I digress...
>>
>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this, given
>> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen vegetable
>> aisle.
>>
>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
>> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
>> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>>
>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>
>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>
>> Jill

>
>
>I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to steam
>artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the length it
>takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>
>Cheri


I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a pressure
cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of liquid
is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing. What's seen escaping from a
boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.
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On 2018-02-25 11:59 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Show of hands, please:
>
> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>
> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>
> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
> sort of slight.Â* She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry
> and even grill vegetables.
>
> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage
> wedges.Â* Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes
> great.Â* But I digress...
>
> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies?Â* Somehow I doubt this,
> given the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen
> vegetable aisle.
>
> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables.Â* I either steam them or heat
> them in the microwave with a little water.Â* So what?Â* It's not as if
> they're bland and boring.Â* I know how to use herbs and spices.
>
> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>
> So, to steam or not to steam?
>
> Jill


I steam potatoes rather than boil them. Tiny ones I nuke.
Graham


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On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 3:13:29 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
> produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a pressure
> cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of liquid
> is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing.
>

That's not true.
>
> What's seen escaping from a
> boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.
>

Another fallacy.

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On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 4:24:05 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>
> I steam potatoes rather than boil them. Tiny ones I nuke.
> Graham
>
>

I've got a 'skillet steamer insert.' It's an insert that is very
similar to this one. I use it for steaming small red new potatoes
for 'tater salad. It works quite well.

https://s13.postimg.org/j8b5jictj/St...let_insert.jpg
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On 2018-02-25 3:35 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 4:24:05 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>
>> I steam potatoes rather than boil them. Tiny ones I nuke.
>> Graham
>>
>>

> I've got a 'skillet steamer insert.' It's an insert that is very
> similar to this one. I use it for steaming small red new potatoes
> for 'tater salad. It works quite well.
>
>
https://s13.postimg.org/j8b5jictj/St...let_insert.jpg
>

During the winter, my maternal grandmother made use of the fire to boil
the veggies for lunch. The taters often "caught" as a result.*

My paternal grandmother also used the fire but sensibly used a steamer
insert - she was a much better cook!

*When family members had colds, she would cook an onion with the
potatoes and mash them together.
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 16:13:24 -0500, wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:32:03 -0800, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> Show of hands, please:
>>>
>>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>>
>>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>>
>>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>>> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry and
>>> even grill vegetables.
>>>
>>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage wedges.
>>> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes great. But
>>> I digress...
>>>
>>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this, given
>>> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen vegetable
>>> aisle.
>>>
>>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
>>> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
>>> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>>>
>>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>>
>>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>>
>>I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to steam
>>artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the length it
>>takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>>
>>Cheri

>
>I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
>produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a pressure
>cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of liquid
>is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing. What's seen escaping from a
>boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.


everyone here, except you, knows what is meant in this conversation.
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 22:37:49 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 25-Feb-2018, wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:32:03 -0800, "Cheri"
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Show of hands, please:
>> >>
>> >> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>> >>
>> >> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>> >>
>> >> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if
>> >> it's some
>> >> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also
>> >> bake/roast, pan-fry and
>> >> even grill vegetables.
>> >>
>> >> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled
>> >> cabbage wedges.
>> >> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and
>> >> tastes great. But
>> >> I digress...
>> >>
>> >> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I
>> >> doubt this, given
>> >> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the
>> >> frozen vegetable
>> >> aisle.
>> >>
>> >> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam
>> >> them or heat
>> >> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's
>> >> not as if
>> >> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and
>> >> spices.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>> >>
>> >> So, to steam or not to steam?
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >
>> >
>> >I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to
>> >steam
>> >artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the
>> >length it
>> >takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>> >
>> >Cheri

>>
>> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming".

>
>Perhaps you should learn to use a dictionary. Rather than
>remain ignorant, spend some time reading definitions rather than
>spewing filth, bile, vitriol and misinformation. For example, a
>minute with the Merriam-Webster dictionary would have helped you
>figure out what "folks" mean by steaming. The first two, of
>several definitions of steam would have clearly addressed your
>ignorance of what "folks" mean.
>
>1 : a vapor arising from a heated substance
>2 a : the invisible vapor into which water is converted when
>heated to the boiling point


When you prove him wrong, as you just did, 2 things can happen:

1. He'll start screaming about gays.
2. He'll never show up in this thread again.


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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 15:23:59 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-02-25 11:59 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Show of hands, please:
>>
>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>
>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>
>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>> sort of slight.* She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry
>> and even grill vegetables.
>>
>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage
>> wedges.* Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes
>> great.* But I digress...
>>
>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies?* Somehow I doubt this,
>> given the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen
>> vegetable aisle.
>>
>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables.* I either steam them or heat
>> them in the microwave with a little water.* So what?* It's not as if
>> they're bland and boring.* I know how to use herbs and spices.
>>
>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>
>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>
>> Jill

>
>I steam potatoes rather than boil them. Tiny ones I nuke.
>Graham


Unless yoose are cooking with a pressure cooker yoose ain't steaming.
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:28:40 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 3:13:29 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
>> produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a pressure
>> cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of liquid
>> is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing.
>>

>That's not true.
>>
>> What's seen escaping from a
>> boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.
>>

>Another fallacy.


Obviously you didn't graduate from high school.
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 16:08:08 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
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>On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 16:13:24 -0500, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:32:03 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Show of hands, please:
>>>>
>>>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>>>
>>>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>>>
>>>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>>>> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry and
>>>> even grill vegetables.
>>>>
>>>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage wedges.
>>>> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes great. But
>>>> I digress...
>>>>
>>>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this, given
>>>> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen vegetable
>>>> aisle.
>>>>
>>>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
>>>> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
>>>> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>>>
>>>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>>I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to steam
>>>artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the length it
>>>takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>>>
>>>Cheri

>>
>>I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
>>produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a pressure
>>cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of liquid
>>is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing. What's seen escaping from a
>>boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.

>
>everyone here, except you, knows what is meant in this conversation.
>Janet US


You also did not graduate from high school... no way, no how.
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:27:19 +1100, Bruce >
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>On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 22:37:49 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
>>
>>On 25-Feb-2018, wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:32:03 -0800, "Cheri"
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >> Show of hands, please:
>>> >>
>>> >> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>> >>
>>> >> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>> >>
>>> >> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if
>>> >> it's some
>>> >> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also
>>> >> bake/roast, pan-fry and
>>> >> even grill vegetables.
>>> >>
>>> >> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled
>>> >> cabbage wedges.
>>> >> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and
>>> >> tastes great. But
>>> >> I digress...
>>> >>
>>> >> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I
>>> >> doubt this, given
>>> >> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the
>>> >> frozen vegetable
>>> >> aisle.
>>> >>
>>> >> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam
>>> >> them or heat
>>> >> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's
>>> >> not as if
>>> >> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and
>>> >> spices.
>>> >>
>>> >> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>> >>
>>> >> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>> >>
>>> >> Jill
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to
>>> >steam
>>> >artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the
>>> >length it
>>> >takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>>> >
>>> >Cheri
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming".

>>
>>Perhaps you should learn to use a dictionary. Rather than
>>remain ignorant, spend some time reading definitions rather than
>>spewing filth, bile, vitriol and misinformation. For example, a
>>minute with the Merriam-Webster dictionary would have helped you
>>figure out what "folks" mean by steaming. The first two, of
>>several definitions of steam would have clearly addressed your
>>ignorance of what "folks" mean.
>>
>>1 : a vapor arising from a heated substance
>>2 a : the invisible vapor into which water is converted when
>>heated to the boiling point

>
>When you prove him wrong, as you just did, 2 things can happen:
>
>1. He'll start screaming about gays.
>2. He'll never show up in this thread again.


Nah, he'll have another shot of vodka
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> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 10:27:19 +1100, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 22:37:49 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 25-Feb-2018,
wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:32:03 -0800, "Cheri"
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Show of hands, please:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if
>>>>>> it's some
>>>>>> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also
>>>>>> bake/roast, pan-fry and
>>>>>> even grill vegetables.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled
>>>>>> cabbage wedges.
>>>>>> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and
>>>>>> tastes great. But
>>>>>> I digress...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I
>>>>>> doubt this, given
>>>>>> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the
>>>>>> frozen vegetable
>>>>>> aisle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam
>>>>>> them or heat
>>>>>> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's
>>>>>> not as if
>>>>>> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and
>>>>>> spices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to
>>>>> steam
>>>>> artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the
>>>>> length it
>>>>> takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming".
>>>
>>> Perhaps you should learn to use a dictionary. Rather than
>>> remain ignorant, spend some time reading definitions rather than
>>> spewing filth, bile, vitriol and misinformation. For example, a
>>> minute with the Merriam-Webster dictionary would have helped you
>>> figure out what "folks" mean by steaming. The first two, of
>>> several definitions of steam would have clearly addressed your
>>> ignorance of what "folks" mean.
>>>
>>> 1 : a vapor arising from a heated substance
>>> 2 a : the invisible vapor into which water is converted when
>>> heated to the boiling point

>>
>> When you prove him wrong, as you just did, 2 things can happen:
>>
>> 1. He'll start screaming about gays.
>> 2. He'll never show up in this thread again.

>
> Nah, he'll have another shot of vodka
>


Just one shot? From some of the crap he spewed in the past, I assumed he
had drank at least a bottle or two


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On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 5:37:01 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:28:40 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 3:13:29 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
> >> produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a pressure
> >> cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of liquid
> >> is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing.
> >>

> >That's not true.
> >>
> >> What's seen escaping from a
> >> boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.
> >>

> >Another fallacy.

>
> Obviously you didn't graduate from high school.
>
>

I bet I had better grades than you. Can you beat A's?

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:39:29 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 5:37:01 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:28:40 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 3:13:29 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
>> >> produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a pressure
>> >> cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of liquid
>> >> is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing.
>> >>
>> >That's not true.
>> >>
>> >> What's seen escaping from a
>> >> boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.
>> >>
>> >Another fallacy.

>>
>> Obviously you didn't graduate from high school.
>>
>>

>I bet I had better grades than you. Can you beat A's?


So what went wrong then?


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On 2018-02-25 1:59 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Show of hands, please:
>
> How many people here own a steamer basket?


I do
>
> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?


I do.

>
> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
> sort of slight.Â* She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry
> and even grill vegetables.


I am sure she considers herself a great cook. She also posted
extensively about how her husband a daughter would not eat the stuff she
cooked.


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On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 7:41:02 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:39:29 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 5:37:01 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:28:40 -0800 (PST), "
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 3:13:29 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
> >> >> produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a pressure
> >> >> cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of liquid
> >> >> is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing.
> >> >>
> >> >That's not true.
> >> >>
> >> >> What's seen escaping from a
> >> >> boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.
> >> >>
> >> >Another fallacy.
> >>
> >> Obviously you didn't graduate from high school.
> >>
> >>

> >I bet I had better grades than you. Can you beat A's?

>
> So what went wrong then?
>
>

Bantering with a know-it-all idiot in New Yawk.

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jmcquown wrote:

> Show of hands, please:
>
> How many people here own a steamer basket?


Own 3 baskets (includes a stove top steamer unit)

> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?


3 times a week is the average probably.

> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's
> some sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast,
> pan-fry and even grill vegetables.


Best i can tell Julie seems to mostly bake and simmer. If she does
other, it's not mentioned enough to be noticed by me.

> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage
> wedges. Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and
> tastes great. But I digress...


Hum! I've done almost everything else with cabbage but grilling it
seems odd. Doesnt mean it's not good, but off my normal thought lanes.

> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this,
> given the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the
> frozen vegetable aisle.


Nope, I just don't mention it all that often. It's very regular here.

> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or
> heat them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not
> as if they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>
> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>
> So, to steam or not to steam?



I'd say it depends Jill, on the item and the effect desired.
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On 2/25/2018 1:59 PM, jmcquown wrote:
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>
> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>
> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>
> Jill


We've had one for at lest 10 years. Use it on occasion. Steaming
preserves the flavor.
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 21:57:25 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 2/25/2018 1:59 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Show of hands, please:
>>
>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>
>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>
>> Jill

>
>We've had one for at lest 10 years. Use it on occasion. Steaming
>preserves the flavor.


It also doesn't add any.
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 18:44:13 -0500, wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 16:08:08 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 16:13:24 -0500,
wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:32:03 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> Show of hands, please:
>>>>>
>>>>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>>>>
>>>>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>>>>> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry and
>>>>> even grill vegetables.
>>>>>
>>>>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage wedges.
>>>>> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes great. But
>>>>> I digress...
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this, given
>>>>> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen vegetable
>>>>> aisle.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
>>>>> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
>>>>> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to steam
>>>>artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the length it
>>>>takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>>I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
>>>produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a pressure
>>>cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of liquid
>>>is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing. What's seen escaping from a
>>>boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.

>>
>>everyone here, except you, knows what is meant in this conversation.
>>Janet US

>
>You also did not graduate from high school... no way, no how.


Dumkopf! I said we all understood what we were talking about. You
are the one out of the loop. 'Steaming' in this instance is what is
referred to in common parlance as 'steaming.' Please try to keep up.
Steaming as a Cooking method:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steaming
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Show of hands, please:
>
> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>
> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>
> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry and
> even grill vegetables.


But you most often seem to steam them. To me, steamed vegetables are about
as unappealing as food can get. I did have a steamer basket many years ago
but I got rid of it as I didn't like the food it produced. I would much
rather eat vegetables raw or roasted than steamed. No raw potatoes for me
but my mom likes them that way.

> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage wedges.
> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes great. But
> I digress...
>
> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this, given
> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen vegetable
> aisle.


I was at QFC the other day and the frozen veggie section (not including
potatoes) was only 6 feet wide. I get the feeling that frozen veggies are
falling out of favor at least in this area. I don't usually care for them
myself but I used a bag of mixed the other day for soup and I like to keep
peas and carrots for stir fries.
>
> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>
> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>
> So, to steam or not to steam?


No steaming for me or frozen veggies in general. As I said, I do buy them on
occasion for specific purposes but that food isn't usually food I eat. I
generally buy fresh or canned. I didn't grow up eating frozen either. I
don't recall ever having them in the house. I think the first time I tried
them, they were green beans in a sauce. Came with either almonds or
spaetzel. Can't get those any more.

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 2/25/2018 2:08 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 13:59:51 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Show of hands, please:
>>>
>>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>>
>>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>>
>>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>>> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry
>>> and even grill vegetables.
>>>
>>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage
>>> wedges. Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes
>>> great. But I digress...
>>>
>>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this,
>>> given the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen
>>> vegetable aisle.
>>>
>>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
>>> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
>>> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>>>
>>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>>
>>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> I have a large steamer basket and a small steamer basket -- stainless
>> steel pots really.. I steam cabbage, corn on the cob, broccoli,
>> carrots, bell peppers for stuffing, Probably others, it's just not a
>> big deal, just another way of cooking. Remember, Julie hates steamed
>> vegetables.
>> You Are Not Alone!
>> Janet US
>>

> I didn't really think I was alone... just she keeps making a big deal
> about it.


Only reason I make a big deal of it is because you seem to feel the need to
put me down, make fun of me or in some other way attack me.



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> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:32:03 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> Show of hands, please:
>>>
>>> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>>
>>> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>>
>>> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if it's some
>>> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also bake/roast, pan-fry
>>> and
>>> even grill vegetables.
>>>
>>> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled cabbage
>>> wedges.
>>> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and tastes great.
>>> But
>>> I digress...
>>>
>>> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I doubt this,
>>> given
>>> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the frozen
>>> vegetable
>>> aisle.
>>>
>>> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam them or heat
>>> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's not as if
>>> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and spices.
>>>
>>> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>>
>>> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>>
>>I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to steam
>>artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the length it
>>takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>>
>>Cheri

>
> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
> produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a pressure
> cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of liquid
> is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing. What's seen escaping from a
> boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.


You use a steamer basket that fits in the pot. The pot only has a small bit
of water underneath it. Pot has a lid.

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> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:39:29 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 5:37:01 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:28:40 -0800 (PST), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 3:13:29 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming". It's not possible to
>>> >> produce steam except in a sealed pressurized container like a
>>> >> pressure
>>> >> cooker. Cooking veggies in an unsealed container with a bit of
>>> >> liquid
>>> >> is NOT steaming, that's boiling/stewing.
>>> >>
>>> >That's not true.
>>> >>
>>> >> What's seen escaping from a
>>> >> boiling pot is water vapor, NOT steam... steam is invisible.
>>> >>
>>> >Another fallacy.
>>>
>>> Obviously you didn't graduate from high school.
>>>
>>>

>>I bet I had better grades than you. Can you beat A's?

>
> So what went wrong then?


Hehehehe. Good one!

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>>
>>On 25-Feb-2018, wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:32:03 -0800, "Cheri"
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >> Show of hands, please:
>>> >>
>>> >> How many people here own a steamer basket?
>>> >>
>>> >> How many people here occasionally steam fresh vegetables?
>>> >>
>>> >> Julie Bove keeps referencing my "steaming" vegetables, as if
>>> >> it's some
>>> >> sort of slight. She ignores the fact that I also
>>> >> bake/roast, pan-fry and
>>> >> even grill vegetables.
>>> >>
>>> >> A recent mention of cabbage had me thinking about grilled
>>> >> cabbage wedges.
>>> >> Grilled cabbage is delicious; it carmelizes nicely and
>>> >> tastes great. But
>>> >> I digress...
>>> >>
>>> >> Am I the only person who ever steams veggies? Somehow I
>>> >> doubt this, given
>>> >> the proclivity of all the "steam-in-bag" packaging in the
>>> >> frozen vegetable
>>> >> aisle.
>>> >>
>>> >> In the winter I rely on frozen vegetables. I either steam
>>> >> them or heat
>>> >> them in the microwave with a little water. So what? It's
>>> >> not as if
>>> >> they're bland and boring. I know how to use herbs and
>>> >> spices.
>>> >>
>>> >> Oh, and I also think it depends on the particular vegetable.
>>> >>
>>> >> So, to steam or not to steam?
>>> >>
>>> >> Jill
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I steam things like asparagus, zucchini, and others. I used to
>>> >steam
>>> >artichokes, but now I do them in the microwave because of the
>>> >length it
>>> >takes to steam them, but yes...I do steam at times.
>>> >
>>> >Cheri
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what folks mean by "steaming".

>>
>>Perhaps you should learn to use a dictionary. Rather than
>>remain ignorant, spend some time reading definitions rather than
>>spewing filth, bile, vitriol and misinformation. For example, a
>>minute with the Merriam-Webster dictionary would have helped you
>>figure out what "folks" mean by steaming. The first two, of
>>several definitions of steam would have clearly addressed your
>>ignorance of what "folks" mean.
>>
>>1 : a vapor arising from a heated substance
>>2 a : the invisible vapor into which water is converted when
>>heated to the boiling point

>
> When you prove him wrong, as you just did, 2 things can happen:
>
> 1. He'll start screaming about gays.
> 2. He'll never show up in this thread again.


Or there could be thing number three. Something nasty sounding that involves
body parts or sex.

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