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"dsi1" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 8:52:42 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote: > On 2/7/2018 1:06 PM, wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 10:56:07 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> At one time it was thought to be beneficial. If you were in the > >> hospital even as late as the 1950s, you doctor might light up while he > >> discussed your illness with you. > >> > > I remember a doctor (well someone dressed as a doctor and calling > > himself one) advertising Craven A was good for a sore throat. > > > I remember being advised to smoke mentholated cigs for a chest infection! > I declined. Doctors were a lot more cooler back in those days. Vape devices would probably make excellent drug delivery systems, especially for folks with respiratory problems. == They are trying to get the vape thingies on prescription now ... free on the NHS! |
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On 2/7/2018 2:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> >> I remember being advised to smoke mentholated cigs for a chest infection! >> I declined. > > Doctors were a lot more cooler back in those days. Vape devices would probably make excellent drug delivery systems, especially for folks with respiratory problems. > My son is a respiratory therapist. He would rather see kids smoking cigarettes than using the vaping devices. Long term they are worse than the real smokes. |
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On 2018-02-07, U.S Janet B > wrote:
> That's true, especially now that White Lily and Martha White are > both available nationwide. I guess I still don't think of them as > nationally branded. I first learned about White Lily when I was stationed in TN (2yrs), in the late 60s. Later, I learned about Martha White from Hot Rize, the bluegrass band I was jes becoming exposed to. Back then, these were two Southern brands that were never marketed west of the Mississippi. I now see self-rising White Lily in my local Colorado sprmkt. I also find King Arthur brands, on the shelf. I now jes buy bulk organic pastry flour from one of our local health food stores at 1/3rd the price. nb |
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On 2/7/2018 2:10 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "graham"* wrote in message ... > > On 2018-02-06 8:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 2/6/2018 4:56 PM, graham wrote: >> >>>> Agreed on the lard for pastry! >>>> >>>> NEVER margarine >>> >>> The recipe for chocolate crunch that we had for school lunches >>> specifies margarine, which I suppose was cheaper for feeding hundreds >>> of kids at a time. I make it with butter and it is not as crunchy as >>> I remember and I have wondered if that is due to using margarine >>> rather than butter.* I don't feel like trying it to find out, >>> particularly as my version is popular with my sons and grandchildren >>> - and that's all that matters! >>> >> >> My wife did it for you.* She has a cookie recipe that comes out >> crunchier with margarine.* She has been making pizzelles for 50 years >> with margarine too and she won't play around with that recipe. > > I might try it once, just to see if it's like i remember. But when I > look at the stuff in the shops, it seems the better quality is always in > huge packs. > Graham > == > > I haven't tasted margarine since I was a child and wouldn't fancy doing > so now:) > > Some of the new ones are vastly improved. One is made from yogurt and is quite lucious tasting. http://www.brummelandbrown.com/original-spread.html Brummel & Brown Original Spread 4.9 out of 5 stars. Read reviews. 4.9 15 Reviews This action will navigate to reviews. 15 out of 15 (100%) reviewers recommend this product Discover the sweet, creamy taste of Brummel & Brown buttery spread, made with the wholesome goodness of real yogurt. A deliciously smart choice with 1/2 the fat and calories of butter* and 0g cholesterol per serving. Use in place of butter for spreading on toast, melting on vegetables, or sautéing meat. Check out our recipes for more ideas and delicious inspiration! Made with real yogurt and plant based oils 50% less fat and calories than butter* Gluten free 0g Cholesterol per serving 0g Trans fat per serving *One serving (1 tbsp.) of butter contains 100 calories, 11g total fat, 7g saturated fat, while Brummel & Brown Original contains 5g fat (1.5g saturated fat) and 45 calories per serving. Ingredients purified water soybean oil nonfat yogurt (cultured nonfat milk adds a dietarily insignificant amount of cholesterol) palm kernel and palm oil modified tapioca starch salt mono and diglycerides potassium sorbate (used to protect quality) lactic acid lecithin (soy) natural flavors vitamin a palmitate beta carotene (color) Nutrition Facts Calories 45cal Calories from Fat 45cal Total Fat 5g Saturated Fat 1.5g Trans Fat 0g Polyunsaturated Fat 2.5g Monounsaturated Fat 1g Cholesterol 0mg Sodium 90mg Total Carbohydrate <1g Protein 0g Vitamin A 10% DV** |
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On 2018-02-07, graham > wrote:
> On 2018-02-07 11:58 AM, dsi1 wrote: >> A half pound of butter, 2 sticks, is also one cup. That's rather >> odd. It is in butter that our system of weights and liquid measure >> converges. > Rather messily I think:-) Only if you are confused by the difference between volume and mass. Yet one more reason why baker's prefer mass (weight). ;) nb |
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On 2018-02-07 1:56 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2018-02-07, graham > wrote: > >> On 2018-02-07 11:58 AM, dsi1 wrote: > >>> A half pound of butter, 2 sticks, is also one cup. That's rather >>> odd. It is in butter that our system of weights and liquid measure >>> converges. > >> Rather messily I think:-) > > Only if you are confused by the difference between volume and mass. > > Yet one more reason why baker's prefer mass (weight). ;) > > nb > As I do! Graham |
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On 2/7/2018 12:30 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message > ... > >> free cigarettes so as to build up an addicted tax base.* I still see >> plenty of grade schoolers smoking, many look about ten years old, >> young girls who haven't developed breasts yet puffing away. > > > I don't see that at all where I live, in fact I see very few high school > kids smoking these days and I live across from a high school, so I see > the kids walking past everyday. > > cehri It's a LOT less than it used to be down here too. And if they are smoking, it's likely weed...or rock... :-( |
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On 2/7/2018 1:42 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/7/2018 2:29 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >>>> >>> I remember being advised to smoke mentholated cigs for a chest >>> infection! >>> I declined. >> >> Doctors were a lot more cooler back in those days. Vape devices would >> probably make excellent drug delivery systems, especially for folks >> with respiratory problems. >> > > My son is a respiratory therapist.* He would rather see kids smoking > cigarettes than using the vaping devices. Long term they are worse than > the real smokes. Is it the propolyne glycol in them? |
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On 7 Feb 2018 20:48:00 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2018-02-07, U.S Janet B > wrote: > >> That's true, especially now that White Lily and Martha White are >> both available nationwide. I guess I still don't think of them as >> nationally branded. > >I first learned about White Lily when I was stationed in TN (2yrs), in >the late 60s. Later, I learned about Martha White from Hot Rize, the >bluegrass band I was jes becoming exposed to. Back then, these were >two Southern brands that were never marketed west of the Mississippi. >I now see self-rising White Lily in my local Colorado sprmkt. I >also find King Arthur brands, on the shelf. > >I now jes buy bulk organic pastry flour from one of our local health >food stores at 1/3rd the price. > >nb I first found them at Walmart. That made sense to me as Walmart already had the product in their order list. Over a few years I saw many more things come west as a result of Walmart. Janet US |
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"casa de suspiros" wrote in message ... On 2/7/2018 2:10 AM, Ophelia wrote: > > > "graham" wrote in message ... > > On 2018-02-06 8:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 2/6/2018 4:56 PM, graham wrote: >> >>>> Agreed on the lard for pastry! >>>> >>>> NEVER margarine >>> >>> The recipe for chocolate crunch that we had for school lunches specifies >>> margarine, which I suppose was cheaper for feeding hundreds of kids at a >>> time. I make it with butter and it is not as crunchy as I remember and I >>> have wondered if that is due to using margarine rather than butter. I >>> don't feel like trying it to find out, particularly as my version is >>> popular with my sons and grandchildren - and that's all that matters! >>> >> >> My wife did it for you. She has a cookie recipe that comes out crunchier >> with margarine. She has been making pizzelles for 50 years with >> margarine too and she won't play around with that recipe. > > I might try it once, just to see if it's like i remember. But when I > look at the stuff in the shops, it seems the better quality is always in > huge packs. > Graham > == > > I haven't tasted margarine since I was a child and wouldn't fancy doing so > now:) > > Some of the new ones are vastly improved. One is made from yogurt and is quite lucious tasting. http://www.brummelandbrown.com/original-spread.html Brummel & Brown Original Spread 4.9 out of 5 stars. Read reviews. 4.9 15 Reviews This action will navigate to reviews. 15 out of 15 (100%) reviewers recommend this product Discover the sweet, creamy taste of Brummel & Brown buttery spread, made with the wholesome goodness of real yogurt. A deliciously smart choice with 1/2 the fat and calories of butter* and 0g cholesterol per serving. Use in place of butter for spreading on toast, melting on vegetables, or sautéing meat. Check out our recipes for more ideas and delicious inspiration! Made with real yogurt and plant based oils 50% less fat and calories than butter* Gluten free 0g Cholesterol per serving 0g Trans fat per serving *One serving (1 tbsp.) of butter contains 100 calories, 11g total fat, 7g saturated fat, while Brummel & Brown Original contains 5g fat (1.5g saturated fat) and 45 calories per serving. Ingredients purified water soybean oil nonfat yogurt (cultured nonfat milk adds a dietarily insignificant amount of cholesterol) palm kernel and palm oil modified tapioca starch salt mono and diglycerides potassium sorbate (used to protect quality) lactic acid lecithin (soy) natural flavors vitamin a palmitate beta carotene (color) Nutrition Facts Calories 45cal Calories from Fat 45cal Total Fat 5g Saturated Fat 1.5g Trans Fat 0g Polyunsaturated Fat 2.5g Monounsaturated Fat 1g Cholesterol 0mg Sodium 90mg Total Carbohydrate <1g Protein 0g Vitamin A 10% DV** == Good gracious ... I haven't seen that but then I don't look for margarines either. |
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"graham" wrote in message ... On 2018-02-07 1:56 PM, notbob wrote: > On 2018-02-07, graham > wrote: > >> On 2018-02-07 11:58 AM, dsi1 wrote: > >>> A half pound of butter, 2 sticks, is also one cup. That's rather >>> odd. It is in butter that our system of weights and liquid measure >>> converges. > >> Rather messily I think:-) > > Only if you are confused by the difference between volume and mass. > > Yet one more reason why baker's prefer mass (weight). ;) > > nb > As I do! Graham == Oh yes! My scale makes life much easier:) |
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On 2/7/2018 4:05 PM, casa de suspiros wrote:
> On 2/7/2018 1:42 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 2/7/2018 2:29 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> >>>>> >>>> I remember being advised to smoke mentholated cigs for a chest >>>> infection! >>>> I declined. >>> >>> Doctors were a lot more cooler back in those days. Vape devices would >>> probably make excellent drug delivery systems, especially for folks >>> with respiratory problems. >>> >> >> My son is a respiratory therapist.* He would rather see kids smoking >> cigarettes than using the vaping devices. Long term they are worse >> than the real smokes. > > > Is it the propolyne glycol in them? I think that was one. He had a couple of reasons, one being the finer vapor can better get into smaller places in the lung. |
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On 2/7/2018 4:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I don't know about the Government supplying the military with cigarettes > *to build up an addicted tax base.* I remember that they used to be > included in combat rations, but IIRC only one pack of 5,* and likely > because* so many of the troops smoked.* They also thought that smoking > would take their minds off their hunger. > My Dad was in his 30s and had never smoked - until those free cigarettes were handed out to flight crews. He was a heavy smoker for the next 30 years. |
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On 2018-02-07 5:01 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 2/7/2018 4:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >> I don't know about the Government supplying the military with >> cigarettes **to build up an addicted tax base.* I remember that they >> used to be included in combat rations, but IIRC only one pack of 5, >> and likely because* so many of the troops smoked.* They also thought >> that smoking would take their minds off their hunger. >> > My Dad was in his 30s and had never smoked - until those free cigarettes > were handed out to flight crews. He was a heavy smoker for the next 30 > years. My father 3nlisted in 1940 and went overseas in 1941. He smoked a pipe. He never switched to cigarettes. Guys in the armed forces had a lot of free time and not much to do. Smoking was a diversion from the boredom. As for Sheldon's tax conspiracy theory..... they were not as heavily taxed back then. There was some tax on them, but only a fraction of what they charge now. |
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On 2018-02-07, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 2/7/2018 4:05 PM, casa de suspiros wrote: >> Is it the propolyne glycol in them? > I think that was one. I remember when 'propolyne glycol' usta be used as a sweetener in diet Dr Pepper. I noticed the "gycol" in the ingredients cuz I was working with ethylene glycol (anti-freeze) at the time and knew, despite its propensity toward sweetness, it was highly toxic to most mammals. 8| nb |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 17:01:27 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote: >On 2/7/2018 4:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >> I don't know about the Government supplying the military with cigarettes >> *to build up an addicted tax base.* I remember that they used to be >> included in combat rations, but IIRC only one pack of 5,* and likely >> because* so many of the troops smoked.* They also thought that smoking >> would take their minds off their hunger. >> >My Dad was in his 30s and had never smoked - until those free cigarettes >were handed out to flight crews. He was a heavy smoker for the next 30 >years. The military placed those 5 backs on every table at meal time and usually more than one pack per, and then sold cartons of regular ten packs of twenty for 90... that was ten 20 cig packs at 9 per .. An awful lot of recruits never smoked until they got those free cigs, including me. |
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On 7 Feb 2018 22:53:47 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2018-02-07, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 2/7/2018 4:05 PM, casa de suspiros wrote: > >>> Is it the propolyne glycol in them? > >> I think that was one. > >I remember when 'propolyne glycol' usta be used as a sweetener in diet >Dr Pepper. I noticed the "gycol" in the ingredients cuz I was working >with ethylene glycol (anti-freeze) at the time and knew, despite its >propensity toward sweetness, it was highly toxic to most mammals. 8| Sounds like a perfect ingredient for McDonalds fries. |
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On 2/7/2018 2:27 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "casa de suspiros"* wrote in message ... > > On 2/7/2018 2:10 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "graham"* wrote in message ... >> >> On 2018-02-06 8:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 2/6/2018 4:56 PM, graham wrote: >>> >>>>> Agreed on the lard for pastry! >>>>> >>>>> NEVER margarine >>>> >>>> The recipe for chocolate crunch that we had for school lunches >>>> specifies margarine, which I suppose was cheaper for feeding >>>> hundreds of kids at a time. I make it with butter and it is not as >>>> crunchy as I remember and I have wondered if that is due to using >>>> margarine rather than butter.* I don't feel like trying it to find >>>> out, particularly as my version is popular with my sons and >>>> grandchildren - and that's all that matters! >>>> >>> >>> My wife did it for you.* She has a cookie recipe that comes out >>> crunchier with margarine.* She has been making pizzelles for 50 years >>> with margarine too and she won't play around with that recipe. >> >> I might try it once, just to see if it's like i remember. But when I >> look at the stuff in the shops, it seems the better quality is always in >> huge packs. >> Graham >> == >> >> I haven't tasted margarine since I was a child and wouldn't fancy >> doing so now:) >> >> > > > Some of the new ones are vastly improved. > > One is made from yogurt and is quite lucious tasting. > > > > http://www.brummelandbrown.com/original-spread.html > > Brummel & Brown > Original Spread > > *** 4.9 out of 5 stars. Read reviews. > *** 4.9 > *** 15 Reviews This action will navigate to reviews. > > 15 out of 15 (100%) reviewers recommend this product > > Discover the sweet, creamy taste of Brummel & Brown buttery spread, made > with the wholesome goodness of real yogurt. A deliciously smart choice > with 1/2 the fat and calories of butter* and 0g cholesterol per serving. > Use in place of butter for spreading on toast, melting on vegetables, or > sautéing meat. Check out our recipes for more ideas and delicious > inspiration! > > *** Made with real yogurt and plant based oils > > *** 50% less fat and calories than butter* > > *** Gluten free > > *** 0g Cholesterol per serving > > *** 0g Trans fat per serving > > *One serving (1 tbsp.) of butter contains 100 calories, 11g total fat, > 7g saturated fat, while Brummel & Brown Original contains 5g fat (1.5g > saturated fat) and 45 calories per serving. > > > Ingredients > > *** purified water > > *** soybean oil > > *** nonfat yogurt (cultured nonfat milk adds a dietarily > insignificant amount of cholesterol) > > *** palm kernel and palm oil > > *** modified tapioca starch > > *** salt > > *** mono and diglycerides > > *** potassium sorbate (used to protect quality) > > *** lactic acid > > *** lecithin (soy) > > *** natural flavors > > *** vitamin a palmitate > > *** beta carotene (color) > > Nutrition Facts > > *** Calories > *** 45cal > *** Calories from Fat 45cal > *** Total Fat > *** 5g > *** Saturated Fat 1.5g > *** Trans Fat 0g > *** Polyunsaturated Fat 2.5g > *** Monounsaturated Fat 1g > *** Cholesterol > *** 0mg > *** Sodium > *** 90mg > *** Total Carbohydrate > *** <1g > *** Protein > *** 0g > *** Vitamin A > *** 10% DV** > == > > Good gracious ... I haven't seen that but then I don't look for > margarines either. > > A fine product but I rather doubt thy have UK distribution. I'm sure Tescos has something similar. |
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On 2/7/2018 2:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/7/2018 4:05 PM, casa de suspiros wrote: >> On 2/7/2018 1:42 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 2/7/2018 2:29 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>>>> I remember being advised to smoke mentholated cigs for a chest >>>>> infection! >>>>> I declined. >>>> >>>> Doctors were a lot more cooler back in those days. Vape devices >>>> would probably make excellent drug delivery systems, especially for >>>> folks with respiratory problems. >>>> >>> >>> My son is a respiratory therapist.* He would rather see kids smoking >>> cigarettes than using the vaping devices. Long term they are worse >>> than the real smokes. >> >> >> Is it the propolyne glycol in them? > > I think that was one.* He had a couple of reasons, one being the finer > vapor can better get into smaller places in the lung. Yes, that's all bad science then. |
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On 2/7/2018 3:53 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2018-02-07, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 2/7/2018 4:05 PM, casa de suspiros wrote: > >>> Is it the propolyne glycol in them? > >> I think that was one. > > I remember when 'propolyne glycol' usta be used as a sweetener in diet > Dr Pepper. I noticed the "gycol" in the ingredients cuz I was working > with ethylene glycol (anti-freeze) at the time and knew, despite its > propensity toward sweetness, it was highly toxic to most mammals. 8| > > nb > Well guess what...it ain't there no more! Someone got the word. |
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On 2/7/2018 4:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On 7 Feb 2018 22:53:47 GMT, notbob > wrote: > >> On 2018-02-07, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> >>> On 2/7/2018 4:05 PM, casa de suspiros wrote: >> >>>> Is it the propolyne glycol in them? >> >>> I think that was one. >> >> I remember when 'propolyne glycol' usta be used as a sweetener in diet >> Dr Pepper. I noticed the "gycol" in the ingredients cuz I was working >> with ethylene glycol (anti-freeze) at the time and knew, despite its >> propensity toward sweetness, it was highly toxic to most mammals. 8| > > Sounds like a perfect ingredient for McDonalds fries. > Oh there is one mo http://www.newsweek.com/chemical-mcd...udy-say-799439 Japanese scientists may have discovered a cure for baldnessand it lies within a chemical used to make McDonalds fries. A stem cell research team from Yokohama National University used a simple method to regrow hair on mice by using dimethylpolysiloxane, the silicone added to McDonalds fries to stop cooking oil from frothing. Preliminary tests indicated that the groundbreaking method was likely to be just as successful when transferred to human skin cells. |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 17:15:37 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2018-02-07 5:01 PM, S Viemeister wrote: >> On 2/7/2018 4:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >> >>> I don't know about the Government supplying the military with >>> cigarettes **to build up an addicted tax base.* I remember that they >>> used to be included in combat rations, but IIRC only one pack of 5, >>> and likely because* so many of the troops smoked.* They also thought >>> that smoking would take their minds off their hunger. >>> >> My Dad was in his 30s and had never smoked - until those free cigarettes >> were handed out to flight crews. He was a heavy smoker for the next 30 >> years. > >My father 3nlisted in 1940 and went overseas in 1941. He smoked a pipe. >He never switched to cigarettes. Guys in the armed forces had a lot of >free time and not much to do. Smoking was a diversion from the boredom. > >As for Sheldon's tax conspiracy theory..... they were not as heavily >taxed back then. There was some tax on them, but only a fraction of what >they charge now. What's not to comprehend, was to get people addicted. The US Grubberment was no different than any modern drug pusher. |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 18:46:00 -0700, graham > wrote:
>On 2018-02-07 4:03 PM, wrote: >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 17:01:27 -0500, S Viemeister >> > wrote: >> >>> On 2/7/2018 4:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >>> >>>> I don't know about the Government supplying the military with cigarettes >>>> *to build up an addicted tax base.* I remember that they used to be >>>> included in combat rations, but IIRC only one pack of 5,* and likely >>>> because* so many of the troops smoked.* They also thought that smoking >>>> would take their minds off their hunger. >>>> >>> My Dad was in his 30s and had never smoked - until those free cigarettes >>> were handed out to flight crews. He was a heavy smoker for the next 30 >>> years. >> >> The military placed those 5 backs on every table at meal time and >> usually more than one pack per, and then sold cartons of regular >> ten packs of twenty for 90... that was ten 20 cig packs at 9 per >> . An awful lot of recruits never smoked until they got those free >> cigs, including me. >> >YOU HAD A CHOICE!!!!!!! Relax, Archie. He had a choice, but did he know how unhealthy it was? |
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On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 10:11:44 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > They are trying to get the vape thingies on prescription now ... free on the > NHS! As an added bonus, you can do tricks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVXR7xttUeo |
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On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 3:15:41 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
.... > The recipe for chocolate crunch that we had for school lunches specifies > margarine, which I suppose was cheaper for feeding hundreds of kids at a > time. I make it with butter and it is not as crunchy as I remember and I > have wondered if that is due to using margarine rather than butter. I > don't feel like trying it to find out, particularly as my version is > popular with my sons and grandchildren - and that's all that matters! > > == > > You got it in one:)) One word why: BUTTER! :-) I never buy margarine! :-( John Kuthe... |
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On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 5:28:06 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote: .... > > > > I keep hearing about Crisco. What is the attraction? > > Marketing, mostly. > > When animal fats were being portrayed as evil, Crisco was advertising > "all vegetable Crisco". > > Plus, it's shelf stable. You can have a can of it on the shelf for > years. > > Cindy Hamilton And I always ask people: Would you eat a cracker smeared with a gob of Crisco? Butter!! :-) John Kuthe... |
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On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 10:04:11 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> On 2018-02-07 11:58 AM, dsi1 wrote: > . > > > > A half pound of butter, 2 sticks, is also one cup. That's rather odd. It is in butter that our system of weights and liquid measure converges. > > > > Rather messily I think:-) Oddly enough, people think it's perfectly natural that 8 oz of butter by weight should be equal to one cup (8 oz) of butter. The reality is that 1 cup of most things will not weigh 8 ounces. 1 cup of gold will weight about 128 oz. It is a paradox that nobody ever sees. |
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On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 10:42:54 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > My son is a respiratory therapist. He would rather see kids smoking > cigarettes than using the vaping devices. Long term they are worse than > the real smokes. Nobody knows what the long term effects of vaping is. A lot of people would like to find out but it's going to take a while for researchers to get some answers. |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 19:04:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 10:04:11 AM UTC-10, graham wrote: >> On 2018-02-07 11:58 AM, dsi1 wrote: >> . >> > >> > A half pound of butter, 2 sticks, is also one cup. That's rather odd. It is in butter that our system of weights and liquid measure converges. >> > >> >> Rather messily I think:-) > >Oddly enough, people think it's perfectly natural that 8 oz of butter by weight should be equal to one cup (8 oz) of butter. The reality is that 1 cup of most things will not weigh 8 ounces. 1 cup of gold will weight about 128 oz. It is a paradox that nobody ever sees. You're confusing yourselves with your weird system. Time to switch to grams, kilos, litres and kilometres. Life could be so simple. |
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On 2018-02-07 7:55 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 3:15:41 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote: > ... >> The recipe for chocolate crunch that we had for school lunches specifies >> margarine, which I suppose was cheaper for feeding hundreds of kids at a >> time. I make it with butter and it is not as crunchy as I remember and I >> have wondered if that is due to using margarine rather than butter. I >> don't feel like trying it to find out, particularly as my version is >> popular with my sons and grandchildren - and that's all that matters! >> >> == >> >> You got it in one:)) > > One word why: BUTTER! :-) > > I never buy margarine! :-( > > John Kuthe... > I think I might try it just once to see if it makes the sweet as I remember - but otherwise it'll be butter! My D-I-L has Crohn's and is allergic to dairy so I may have to make an exception in her case. Graham |
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In article >, notbob
> wrote: > I remember when 'propolyne glycol' usta be used as a sweetener in diet > Dr Pepper. I noticed the "gycol" in the ingredients cuz I was working > with ethylene glycol (anti-freeze) at the time and knew, despite its > propensity toward sweetness, it was highly toxic to most mammals. 8| Propylene glycol is to ethylene glycol as ethanol is to methanol. Two ain't bad. Two will kill you quick. Be safe out there! leo |
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"dsi1" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 10:11:44 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > They are trying to get the vape thingies on prescription now ... free on > the > NHS! As an added bonus, you can do tricks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVXR7xttUeo == Ugh! |
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On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 5:53:52 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> On 2018-02-07, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > > > On 2/7/2018 4:05 PM, casa de suspiros wrote: > > >> Is it the propolyne glycol in them? > > > I think that was one. > > I remember when 'propolyne glycol' usta be used as a sweetener in diet > Dr Pepper. I noticed the "gycol" in the ingredients cuz I was working > with ethylene glycol (anti-freeze) at the time and knew, despite its > propensity toward sweetness, it was highly toxic to most mammals. 8| > > nb There's propylene glycol in the stuff for vaping and in various pharmaceuticals. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 8:48:08 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 18:46:00 -0700, graham > wrote: > > >On 2018-02-07 4:03 PM, wrote: > >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 17:01:27 -0500, S Viemeister > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> On 2/7/2018 4:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >>> > >>>> I don't know about the Government supplying the military with cigarettes > >>>> *to build up an addicted tax base.* I remember that they used to be > >>>> included in combat rations, but IIRC only one pack of 5,* and likely > >>>> because* so many of the troops smoked.* They also thought that smoking > >>>> would take their minds off their hunger. > >>>> > >>> My Dad was in his 30s and had never smoked - until those free cigarettes > >>> were handed out to flight crews. He was a heavy smoker for the next 30 > >>> years. > >> > >> The military placed those 5 backs on every table at meal time and > >> usually more than one pack per, and then sold cartons of regular > >> ten packs of twenty for 90¢... that was ten 20 cig packs at 9¢ per > >> . An awful lot of recruits never smoked until they got those free > >> cigs, including me. > >> > >YOU HAD A CHOICE!!!!!!! > > Relax, Archie. He had a choice, but did he know how unhealthy it was? Cigarettes have been called "coffin nails" since the 19th Century. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 10:04:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 10:04:11 AM UTC-10, graham wrote: > > On 2018-02-07 11:58 AM, dsi1 wrote: > > . > > > > > > A half pound of butter, 2 sticks, is also one cup. That's rather odd. It is in butter that our system of weights and liquid measure converges. > > > > > > > Rather messily I think:-) > > Oddly enough, people think it's perfectly natural that 8 oz of butter by weight should be equal to one cup (8 oz) of butter. The reality is that 1 cup of most things will not weigh 8 ounces. 1 cup of gold will weight about 128 oz. It is a paradox that nobody ever sees. Most things in the kitchen have a specific gravity near 1. "A pint's a pound" works for common items in common uses. I can't remember the last time I had a cup of gold or a cup of feathers. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 18:58:40 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote: >On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 5:28:06 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote: >... >> > >> > I keep hearing about Crisco. What is the attraction? >> >> Marketing, mostly. >> >> When animal fats were being portrayed as evil, Crisco was advertising >> "all vegetable Crisco". >> >> Plus, it's shelf stable. You can have a can of it on the shelf for >> years. >> >> Cindy Hamilton > >And I always ask people: > >Would you eat a cracker smeared with a gob of Crisco? Butter!! :-) > >John Kuthe... It's not intended to be eaten uncooked! |
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On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 03:27:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 8:48:08 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 18:46:00 -0700, graham > wrote: >> >> >On 2018-02-07 4:03 PM, wrote: >> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 17:01:27 -0500, S Viemeister >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 2/7/2018 4:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I don't know about the Government supplying the military with cigarettes >> >>>> *to build up an addicted tax base.* I remember that they used to be >> >>>> included in combat rations, but IIRC only one pack of 5,* and likely >> >>>> because* so many of the troops smoked.* They also thought that smoking >> >>>> would take their minds off their hunger. >> >>>> >> >>> My Dad was in his 30s and had never smoked - until those free cigarettes >> >>> were handed out to flight crews. He was a heavy smoker for the next 30 >> >>> years. >> >> >> >> The military placed those 5 backs on every table at meal time and >> >> usually more than one pack per, and then sold cartons of regular >> >> ten packs of twenty for 90... that was ten 20 cig packs at 9 per >> >> . An awful lot of recruits never smoked until they got those free >> >> cigs, including me. >> >> >> >YOU HAD A CHOICE!!!!!!! >> >> Relax, Archie. He had a choice, but did he know how unhealthy it was? > >Cigarettes have been called "coffin nails" since the 19th Century. > >Cindy Hamilton Approximately 40 years ago we both smoked a pack a day when the then premier of the province upped the sin tax on cigarettes which meant a carton of cigarettes would top $10 ! So we decided, too much for smoking and we quit. I have to smile now when I see a PACKET of cigarettes is close to $20.00 ! Nobody was really hammering on about it being bad for you, that came a few years later, seem to think it was a very personable US Surgeon General who got people quitting. |
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