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A recipe involving rack of lamb, called for "butterflied meat",
or ribs, or something. What does that mean? Also, in a shrimp recipe, the instructions read "de-vein the shrimp". ? -- Rich |
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On 9/8/2017 8:49 PM, RichD wrote:
> A recipe involving rack of lamb, called for "butterflied meat", > or ribs, or something. What does that mean? > > Also, in a shrimp recipe, the instructions read "de-vein the shrimp". > > ? > > > -- > Rich > Butterfly is to cut down the middle, but not all the way through, then split it open. Sort of like opening a book, you get a thinner piece of meat. If you look at a raw shrimp with shell on, there is a dark vein running along the back, De-veining means to remove the shell and remove the digestive tract. Some frozen shrimp you buy will have it removed already. |
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On 9/8/2017 8:49 PM, RichD wrote:
> A recipe involving rack of lamb, called for "butterflied meat", > or ribs, or something. What does that mean? > Sliced and spread out flat. > Also, in a shrimp recipe, the instructions read "de-vein the shrimp". > > -- > Rich > Shrimp has a sand vein running through it. After peeling, slice raw shrimp down the center with a small paring knife and pull the (obvious) vein out. Do try not to mutilate the shrimp in the process. Jill |
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On 9/8/2017 8:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/8/2017 8:49 PM, RichD wrote: >> A recipe involving rack of lamb, called for "butterflied meat", >> or ribs, or something.Â* What does that mean? >> > Sliced and spread out flat. > >> Also, in a shrimp recipe, the instructions read "de-vein the shrimp". >> >> -- >> Rich >> > Shrimp has a sand vein running through it.Â* After peeling, slice raw > shrimp down the center with a small paring knife and pull the > (obvious) vein out.Â* Do try not to mutilate the shrimp in the process. > > Jill Â* Don't they make a tool for that ? Â* -- Â* Snag |
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On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 6:57:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > That's very interesting, coming from dsi1. Are we witnessing a > breakthrough moment in his awareness? What can I say? My business is solving problems. I'm going to solve one of this group's problem by trimming all posts that I respond to. I find that I rather enjoy trimming posts. Everything nice and tidy eh? It's odd that nobody ever thought of this before. |
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On 9/8/2017 10:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 6:57:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> >> That's very interesting, coming from dsi1. Are we witnessing a >> breakthrough moment in his awareness? > > What can I say? My business is solving problems. I'm going to solve one of this group's problem by trimming all posts that I respond to. I find that I rather enjoy trimming posts. Everything nice and tidy eh? It's odd that nobody ever thought of this before. > if you are going to solve this problem, shouldn't you tell HOW to achieve the desired result? |
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On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 12:14:34 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > if you are going to solve this problem, shouldn't you tell HOW to > achieve the desired result? I don't feel any need to explain anything. Sorry. I suppose you could demand that I do. That's the usual Usenet scenario. Just see where that gets you. |
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On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp > if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? nb |
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On 9/9/2017 3:19 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 12:14:34 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote: >> >> if you are going to solve this problem, shouldn't you tell HOW to >> achieve the desired result? > > I don't feel any need to explain anything. Sorry. I suppose you could demand that I do. That's the usual Usenet scenario. Just see where that gets you. > No, I won't demand anything of you. But you are failing if you think you are solving a problem just by stripping metadata off your posts while not assisting others to do so. |
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On 9/9/2017 5:30 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 09 Sep 2017 05:10:13a, notbob told us... > >> On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > >> wrote: >> >>> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried >>> shrimp if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. >> >> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? >> >> nb > > I never said it bothered me. It doesn't. I only raised the quesion. > Well, it never bothered me before, but now it does. Thanks a heap! |
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On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> On Sat 09 Sep 2017 05:10:13a, notbob told us... >> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? > I never said it bothered me. It doesn't. I only raised the quesion. Noted. nb |
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On 9 Sep 2017 12:10:13 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote: > >> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp >> if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. > >If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? > >nb More protein |
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On 9/8/2017 9:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/8/2017 8:49 PM, RichD wrote: >> A recipe involving rack of lamb, called for "butterflied meat", >> or ribs, or something.Â* What does that mean? >> > Sliced and spread out flat. > >> Also, in a shrimp recipe, the instructions read "de-vein the shrimp". > Shrimp has a sand vein running through it. I love how they call it a 'vein'. Meaning digestive system. nancy |
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Taxed and Spent wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On 9/8/2017 10:31 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 6:57:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > > > > > That's very interesting, coming from dsi1. Are we witnessing a > > > breakthrough moment in his awareness? > > > > What can I say? My business is solving problems. I'm going to solve > > one of this group's problem by trimming all posts that I respond > > to. I find that I rather enjoy trimming posts. Everything nice and > > tidy eh? It's odd that nobody ever thought of this before. > > > > > if you are going to solve this problem, shouldn't you tell HOW to > achieve the desired result? Well, trail up and see that he removed all parts not replying to but left the names who posted the parts still quoted. How to achieve it? It's called a Mouse. Hopefully people will not spin out of control and require defining what type or the country of origin or even worse, want to know if it has a tail and how long ;-) -- |
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notbob wrote:
> > Wayne Boatwright wrote: > > I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp > > if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. > > If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? If the taste is right, enjoy! |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote: > > Shrimp has a sand vein running through it. > > I love how they call it a 'vein'. Meaning digestive system. Yeah...it's the shrimp's colon...the poopy vein. ;-) |
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On 9/9/2017 7:24 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Taxed and Spent wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On 9/8/2017 10:31 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 6:57:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >>>> >>>> That's very interesting, coming from dsi1. Are we witnessing a >>>> breakthrough moment in his awareness? >>> >>> What can I say? My business is solving problems. I'm going to solve >>> one of this group's problem by trimming all posts that I respond >>> to. I find that I rather enjoy trimming posts. Everything nice and >>> tidy eh? It's odd that nobody ever thought of this before. >>> >> >> >> if you are going to solve this problem, shouldn't you tell HOW to >> achieve the desired result? > > Well, trail up and see that he removed all parts not replying to but > left the names who posted the parts still quoted. > > How to achieve it? It's called a Mouse. Hopefully people will not > spin out of control and require defining what type or the country of > origin or even worse, want to know if it has a tail and how long ;-) > > I was actually referring to the removal of metadata in links, but somehow the post didn't hit the right part of the thread. |
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On 9/9/2017 9:09 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 09 Sep 2017 08:53:14a, Taxed and Spent told us... > >> On 9/9/2017 7:24 AM, cshenk wrote: >>> Taxed and Spent wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>> >>>> On 9/8/2017 10:31 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 6:57:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That's very interesting, coming from dsi1. Are we witnessing a >>>>>> breakthrough moment in his awareness? >>>>> >>>>> What can I say? My business is solving problems. I'm going to >>>>> solve one of this group's problem by trimming all posts that I >>>>> respond to. I find that I rather enjoy trimming posts. >>>>> Everything nice and tidy eh? It's odd that nobody ever thought >>>>> of this before. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> if you are going to solve this problem, shouldn't you tell HOW >>>> to achieve the desired result? >>> >>> Well, trail up and see that he removed all parts not replying to >>> but left the names who posted the parts still quoted. >>> >>> How to achieve it? It's called a Mouse. Hopefully people will >>> not spin out of control and require defining what type or the >>> country of origin or even worse, want to know if it has a tail >>> and how long ;-) >>> >>> >> >> >> I was actually referring to the removal of metadata in links, but >> somehow the post didn't hit the right part of the thread. >> > > Ah, well, Metadata... If he things he can control anything in this > group, then he's obviously got a lot of time on his hands and with > very little luck for his effort. I would also question anyone's > accuracy in pairing headeers with body content. It gets very messy. > I'm not sure why he thinks he can CONTROL everything in this or any > other group. All we need is another net nanny. > I would be happy to learn how to do it. I tried cutting some junk out when metadata first started appearing in search hits, but it ended up being a bad link. |
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On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 2:28:33 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > > No, I won't demand anything of you. But you are failing if you think > you are solving a problem just by stripping metadata off your posts > while not assisting others to do so. I wasn't talking about metadata. I'm talking about people complaining about excessive quoting who wait for other people to do it for them. Shortening links might be a little tricky but it should be well within the ability of people that claim to have an IT background - but I might be wrong. |
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On 9/9/2017 9:13 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 2:28:33 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote: >> >> >> No, I won't demand anything of you. But you are failing if you think >> you are solving a problem just by stripping metadata off your posts >> while not assisting others to do so. > > I wasn't talking about metadata. I'm talking about people complaining about excessive quoting who wait for other people to do it for them. On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 21:47:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > wrote: Please have some consideration for others and strip the metadata off the link. For example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000CFR5H Thank you. > > Shortening links might be a little tricky but it should be well within the ability of people that claim to have an IT background - but I might be wrong. > As I said in my other post: I tried cutting some junk out when metadata first started appearing in search hits, but it ended up being a bad link. Maybe they became less nefarious in their links, or maybe not all links are of the same ilk. Maybe if you hadn't stripped so much of the thread text, this part of the thread would be easier to follow. |
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On 9/9/2017 12:23 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 09 Sep 2017 06:54:09a, Nancy Young told us... >>> Shrimp has a sand vein running through it. >> >> I love how they call it a 'vein'. Meaning digestive system. >> >> nancy >> > > Indeed! Cookbooks constantly refer toit that way. You'd think they > know better. > They do, but calling it the poop chute does not go well in cookbooks. Bunch of prudes. |
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On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 8:54:24 AM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
> > On 9/8/2017 9:17 PM, jmcquown wrote: > > > On 9/8/2017 8:49 PM, RichD wrote: > > >> A recipe involving rack of lamb, called for "butterflied meat", > >> or ribs, or something.Â* What does that mean? > >> > > Sliced and spread out flat. > > > >> Also, in a shrimp recipe, the instructions read "de-vein the shrimp". > > > Shrimp has a sand vein running through it. > > I love how they call it a 'vein'. Meaning digestive system. > > nancy > > Yep, shrimp doo-doo. |
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On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 6:31:23 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> > > Maybe if you hadn't stripped so much of the thread text, this part of > the thread would be easier to follow. So sue me. |
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"notbob" > wrote in message
... > On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote: > >> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp >> if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. > > If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? > > nb I sometimes make the deep fried shrimp with shells on, very crispy and no worries about a vein. Cheri |
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"cshenk" > wrote in message
... > Taxed and Spent wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> On 9/8/2017 10:31 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> > On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 6:57:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: >> > > >> > > That's very interesting, coming from dsi1. Are we witnessing a >> > > breakthrough moment in his awareness? >> > >> > What can I say? My business is solving problems. I'm going to solve >> > one of this group's problem by trimming all posts that I respond >> > to. I find that I rather enjoy trimming posts. Everything nice and >> > tidy eh? It's odd that nobody ever thought of this before. >> > >> >> >> if you are going to solve this problem, shouldn't you tell HOW to >> achieve the desired result? > > Well, trail up and see that he removed all parts not replying to but > left the names who posted the parts still quoted. > > How to achieve it? It's called a Mouse. Hopefully people will not > spin out of control and require defining what type or the country of > origin or even worse, want to know if it has a tail and how long ;-) Looked fine to me, snipped for relevance. Cheri |
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On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 7:15:58 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> > > I sometimes make the deep fried shrimp with shells on, very crispy and no > worries about a vein. > > Cheri A lot of shrimp here is served like that. I like to cut through the back of the shrimp in a vain attempt to clear out the vein. If you ask me, shrimp should always be cooked with the shell on - but I could be wrong. |
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"Cheri" wrote in message news
"notbob" > wrote in message ... > On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote: > >> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp >> if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. > > If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? > > nb I sometimes make the deep fried shrimp with shells on, very crispy and no worries about a vein. Cheri == You eat the 'poop chute'???? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
... > "Cheri" wrote in message news > "notbob" > wrote in message > ... >> On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote: >> >>> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp >>> if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. >> >> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? >> >> nb > > > I sometimes make the deep fried shrimp with shells on, very crispy and no > worries about a vein. > > Cheri > == > > You eat the 'poop chute'???? I sometimes deep fry shriimp in the shell, and eat it all. Cheri |
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On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 7:28:55 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> probably not worth the bother. That's my point - it's not worth the bother. I could spend a lot of time trying to get yoose guys to post the way that suits me but it's not worth the bother. |
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 10:25:50 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>notbob wrote: >> >> Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> > I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp >> > if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. > >> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? > >If the taste is right, enjoy! Would you eat a prawn poop burger as long as it tasted prawny? |
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 10:15:28 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote: >"notbob" > wrote in message ... >> On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote: >> >>> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp >>> if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. >> >> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? >> >> nb > > >I sometimes make the deep fried shrimp with shells on, very crispy and no >worries about a vein. The ultimate way is to cook them with the shell on, but to still make an incision through the shell and remove the vein. |
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 12:32:41 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 9/9/2017 12:23 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> On Sat 09 Sep 2017 06:54:09a, Nancy Young told us... > >>>> Shrimp has a sand vein running through it. >>> >>> I love how they call it a 'vein'. Meaning digestive system. >>> >>> nancy >>> >> >> Indeed! Cookbooks constantly refer toit that way. You'd think they >> know better. >> > >They do, but calling it the poop chute does not go well in cookbooks. >Bunch of prudes. It would make more people remove it if they called it what it is. Rather than walk around with prawn poop breath, because I bet they don't brush their teeth either. |
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 05:32:28 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote: >On 9/9/2017 5:30 AM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> On Sat 09 Sep 2017 05:10:13a, notbob told us... >> >>> On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried >>>> shrimp if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. >>> >>> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? >>> >>> nb >> >> I never said it bothered me. It doesn't. I only raised the quesion. >> > > >Well, it never bothered me before, but now it does. Thanks a heap! You know that slightly harder thing that you bite through when you eat snails? That's its dick. |
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On 9/9/2017 2:11 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message > ... >> "Cheri"* wrote in message news >> "notbob" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote: >>> >>>> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp >>>> if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. >>> >>> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you?* >>> >>> nb >> >> >> I sometimes make the deep fried shrimp with shells on, very crispy and >> no worries about a vein. >> >> Cheri >> == >> >> You eat the 'poop chute'???? > > I sometimes deep fry shriimp in the shell, and eat it all. > > Cheri When I was a kid and mom served deep fried butterflied breaded shrimp (frozen, no doubt) I'd eat the tail, too. Crunchy! Jill |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
9.45... > On Sat 09 Sep 2017 11:11:23a, Cheri told us... > >> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >> ... >>> "Cheri" wrote in message news >>> "notbob" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered >>>>> fried shrimp if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the >>>>> "vein" first. >>>> >>>> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? >>>> >>>> nb >>> >>> >>> I sometimes make the deep fried shrimp with shells on, very >>> crispy and no worries about a vein. >>> >>> Cheri >>> == >>> >>> You eat the 'poop chute'???? >> >> I sometimes deep fry shriimp in the shell, and eat it all. >> >> Cheri >> >> > > I guess if you can't see it, it won't kill you! :-) That's my > approah to eating deep fried shrimp, prawns, and scampi. Yes, and they are small shrimp that I deep fry whole, 40 or so to a pound. Cheri |
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"Bruce" > wrote in message
... > On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 10:15:28 -0700, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >>"notbob" > wrote in message ... >>> On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote: >>> >>>> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp >>>> if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. >>> >>> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? >>> >>> nb >> >> >>I sometimes make the deep fried shrimp with shells on, very crispy and no >>worries about a vein. > > The ultimate way is to cook them with the shell on, but to still make > an incision through the shell and remove the vein. Not with the smaller ones. Cheri |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
... > When I was a kid and mom served deep fried butterflied breaded shrimp > (frozen, no doubt) I'd eat the tail, too. Crunchy! > > Jill Yes, I eat the tails too. Tasty. Cheri |
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 13:21:38 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote: >"Bruce" > wrote in message .. . >> On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 10:15:28 -0700, "Cheri" > >> wrote: >> >>>"notbob" > wrote in message ... >>>> On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp >>>>> if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. >>>> >>>> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? >>>> >>>> nb >>> >>> >>>I sometimes make the deep fried shrimp with shells on, very crispy and no >>>worries about a vein. >> >> The ultimate way is to cook them with the shell on, but to still make >> an incision through the shell and remove the vein. > > >Not with the smaller ones. No, that's not doable. |
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"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > "Cheri" wrote in message news > "notbob" > wrote in message > ... >> On 2017-09-09, Wayne Boatwright > wrote: >> >>> I've often wondered when one is served breaded or battered fried shrimp >>> if all restaurants (or suppliers) remove the "vein" first. >> >> If you cannot tell, why would it bother you? >> >> nb > > > I sometimes make the deep fried shrimp with shells on, very crispy and no > worries about a vein. > > Cheri > == > > You eat the 'poop chute'???? I sometimes deep fry shriimp in the shell, and eat it all. Cheri == ;-) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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