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Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his POT delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless possibilities, folks€¦!!! https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one day, but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of their worth. Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to deliver burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing drones. The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations approved drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like burritos! Lets send them burritos!€ť Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously flawed: a single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what hope is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be a better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for food.) Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry food to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not incentivize a little less exercise? Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. Last summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order a bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and have it delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum of ÂŁ50 (around $70). Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats unlikely to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of London in which to live. Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its delivery drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it does so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the U.S.€”including Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied difficulties of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to see them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont deliver at all€¦€ť |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote:
> So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his POT delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one day, but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of their worth. > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to deliver burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing drones. The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations approved drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like burritos! Lets send them burritos!€ť > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously flawed: a single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what hope is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be a better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for food.) > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry food to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not incentivize a little less exercise? > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. Last summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order a bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and have it delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum of ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats unlikely to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of London in which to live. > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its delivery drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it does so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the U.S.€”including Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied difficulties of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to see them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont deliver at all€¦€ť The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess is that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? You bet! |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his POT > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one day, > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > their worth. > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to deliver > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing drones. > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations approved > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like burritos! > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously flawed: a > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what hope > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be a > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > food.) > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry food > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > incentivize a little less exercise? > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. Last > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order a > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and have it > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum of > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats unlikely > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of London > in which to live. > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its delivery > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it does > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the U.S.€”including > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied difficulties > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to see > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > deliver at all€¦€ť The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess is that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? You bet! ========================== What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial intelligence? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his POT > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one day, > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > > their worth. > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to deliver > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing drones. > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations approved > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like burritos! > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously flawed: a > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what hope > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be a > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > > food.) > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry food > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. Last > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order a > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and have it > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum of > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats unlikely > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of London > > in which to live. > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its delivery > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it does > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the U.S.€”including > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied difficulties > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to see > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess is > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? You > bet! > > ========================== > > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial intelligence? > > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a machine cannot? |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his > > POT > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one > > day, > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > > their worth. > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to deliver > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing > > drones. > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations approved > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like burritos! > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously flawed: > > a > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what > > hope > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be > > a > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > > food.) > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry > > food > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. > > Last > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order > > a > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and have > > it > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum > > of > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats > > unlikely > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of > > London > > in which to live. > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its delivery > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it > > does > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the > > U.S.€”including > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied > > difficulties > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to > > see > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess > is > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? > You > bet! > > ========================== > > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial intelligence? > > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a machine cannot? ====================== Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why will they need humans? We might be dispensable. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 12:22:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his > > > POT > > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one > > > day, > > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to > > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > > > their worth. > > > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to deliver > > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing > > > drones. > > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations approved > > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like burritos! > > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously flawed: > > > a > > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what > > > hope > > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be > > > a > > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > > > food.) > > > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry > > > food > > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four > > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. > > > Last > > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order > > > a > > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and have > > > it > > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum > > > of > > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats > > > unlikely > > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of > > > London > > > in which to live. > > > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they > > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its delivery > > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were > > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it > > > does > > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the > > > U.S.€”including > > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied > > > difficulties > > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to > > > see > > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess > > is > > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? > > You > > bet! > > > > ========================== > > > > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial intelligence? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a > machine cannot? > > ====================== > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 12:22:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his > > > POT > > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one > > > day, > > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products > > > to > > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > > > their worth. > > > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to > > > deliver > > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing > > > drones. > > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations > > > approved > > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like > > > burritos! > > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously > > > flawed: > > > a > > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what > > > hope > > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might > > > be > > > a > > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > > > food.) > > > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry > > > food > > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of > > > four > > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. > > > Last > > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to > > > order > > > a > > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and > > > have > > > it > > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely > > > sum > > > of > > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats > > > unlikely > > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of > > > London > > > in which to live. > > > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where > > > they > > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its > > > delivery > > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft > > > were > > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it > > > does > > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the > > > U.S.€”including > > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied > > > difficulties > > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to > > > see > > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess > > is > > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? > > You > > bet! > > > > ========================== > > > > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial intelligence? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a > machine cannot? > > ====================== > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. ================ Ok I was wrong to say 'might'. So how do you feel about being annihilated when you joyfully proclaim the development of automatic 'everything' ?? Hmmm? :)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his > > > POT > > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one > > > day, > > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to > > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > > > their worth. > > > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to deliver > > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing > > > drones. > > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations approved > > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like burritos! > > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously flawed: > > > a > > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what > > > hope > > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be > > > a > > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > > > food.) > > > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry > > > food > > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four > > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. > > > Last > > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order > > > a > > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and have > > > it > > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum > > > of > > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats > > > unlikely > > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of > > > London > > > in which to live. > > > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they > > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its delivery > > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were > > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it > > > does > > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the > > > U.S.€”including > > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied > > > difficulties > > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to > > > see > > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess > > is > > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? > > You > > bet! > > > > ========================== > > > > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial intelligence? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a > machine cannot? > > ====================== > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. They've been saying that since the discovery of ***fire***, Ms. O.... ;-) -- Best Greg |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 01:11:42 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote: > > That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a machine cannot? Start-up their own companies. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
"The Greatest!" wrote in message
... Ophelia wrote: > "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his > > > POT > > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one > > > day, > > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products > > > to > > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > > > their worth. > > > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to > > > deliver > > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing > > > drones. > > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations > > > approved > > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like > > > burritos! > > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously > > > flawed: > > > a > > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what > > > hope > > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might > > > be > > > a > > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > > > food.) > > > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry > > > food > > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of > > > four > > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. > > > Last > > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to > > > order > > > a > > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and > > > have > > > it > > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely > > > sum > > > of > > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats > > > unlikely > > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of > > > London > > > in which to live. > > > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where > > > they > > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its > > > delivery > > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft > > > were > > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it > > > does > > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the > > > U.S.€”including > > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied > > > difficulties > > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to > > > see > > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess > > is > > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? > > You > > bet! > > > > ========================== > > > > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial intelligence? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a > machine cannot? > > ====================== > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. They've been saying that since the discovery of ***fire***, Ms. O.... ;-) Best Greg ========================== True but I think this might be a wee bit more advanced than that:))) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 1:55:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 12:22:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > > ... > > > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his > > > > POT > > > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one > > > > day, > > > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products > > > > to > > > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > > > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > > > > their worth. > > > > > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to > > > > deliver > > > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing > > > > drones. > > > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations > > > > approved > > > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > > > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like > > > > burritos! > > > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously > > > > flawed: > > > > a > > > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what > > > > hope > > > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might > > > > be > > > > a > > > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > > > > food.) > > > > > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > > > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > > > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry > > > > food > > > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of > > > > four > > > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. > > > > Last > > > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to > > > > order > > > > a > > > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and > > > > have > > > > it > > > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely > > > > sum > > > > of > > > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats > > > > unlikely > > > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of > > > > London > > > > in which to live. > > > > > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where > > > > they > > > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its > > > > delivery > > > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft > > > > were > > > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it > > > > does > > > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the > > > > U.S.€”including > > > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied > > > > difficulties > > > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to > > > > see > > > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > > > > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess > > > is > > > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > > > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? > > > You > > > bet! > > > > > > ========================== > > > > > > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial intelligence? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > > > That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a > > machine cannot? > > > > ====================== > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an AI > machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are > mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. That's > the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of people meet > up with another group with superior technology. In this case, the machines > ARE the superior technology. > > ================ > > Ok I was wrong to say 'might'. So how do you feel about being annihilated > when you joyfully proclaim the development of automatic 'everything' ?? > Hmmm? :)) > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk For the machines, it'll be freedom, but it'll be a bad deal for us organic types. We are eagerly rushing towards this and, it seems, nothing will be able to stop this from happening. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-...b_7008706.html |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 1:55:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 12:22:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > > ... > > > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get > > > > his > > > > POT > > > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one > > > > day, > > > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products > > > > to > > > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their > > > > widespread > > > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us > > > > of > > > > their worth. > > > > > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to > > > > deliver > > > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing > > > > drones. > > > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations > > > > approved > > > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice > > > > of > > > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like > > > > burritos! > > > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously > > > > flawed: > > > > a > > > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what > > > > hope > > > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon > > > > might > > > > be > > > > a > > > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop > > > > for > > > > food.) > > > > > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans > > > > on > > > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are > > > > being > > > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to > > > > ferry > > > > food > > > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of > > > > four > > > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of > > > > gimmicks. > > > > Last > > > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to > > > > order > > > > a > > > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and > > > > have > > > > it > > > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely > > > > sum > > > > of > > > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats > > > > unlikely > > > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of > > > > London > > > > in which to live. > > > > > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where > > > > they > > > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its > > > > delivery > > > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft > > > > were > > > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it > > > > does > > > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the > > > > U.S.€”including > > > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied > > > > difficulties > > > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice > > > > to > > > > see > > > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > > > > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My > > > guess > > > is > > > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > > > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying > > > taxies? > > > You > > > bet! > > > > > > ========================== > > > > > > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial > > > intelligence? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > > > That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a > > machine cannot? > > > > ====================== > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an > AI > machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are > mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. > That's > the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of people meet > up with another group with superior technology. In this case, the machines > ARE the superior technology. > > ================ > > Ok I was wrong to say 'might'. So how do you feel about being annihilated > when you joyfully proclaim the development of automatic 'everything' ?? > Hmmm? :)) > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk For the machines, it'll be freedom, but it'll be a bad deal for us organic types. We are eagerly rushing towards this and, it seems, nothing will be able to stop this from happening. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-...b_7008706.html ================== Hopefully not in my lifetime. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
dsi1 wrote:
> > Ophelia wrote: > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, imo. |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 06:56:45 -0800 (PST), "The Greatest!"
> wrote: >Ophelia wrote: > >> "dsi1" wrote in message >> ... >> >> On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: >> > "dsi1" wrote in message >> > ... >> > >> > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: >> > > So, we’ve discussed self – driving vehicles, now howzabout drone – >> > > delivered vittles? Just think – instead of schlepping around on the >> > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies >> > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep…Kuthe could even get his >> > > POT >> > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to “drone”, hehe…)…endless >> > > possibilities, folks…!!! >> > > >> > > >> > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer >> > > >> > > >> > > Burrito-Delivering Drones—Seriously? >> > > >> > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one >> > > day, >> > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. >> > > >> > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 >> > > >> > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to >> > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread >> > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying >> > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of >> > > their worth. >> > > >> > > Alphabet has announced that it’s collaborating with Chipotle to deliver >> > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing >> > > drones. >> > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administration’s approved >> > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable—but the choice of >> > > payload is a little harder to stomach. It’s easy enough to imagine a >> > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: “Students like burritos! >> > > Let’s send them burritos!” >> > > >> > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. It’s also very obviously flawed: >> > > a >> > > single burrito can fill a single hungry student’s belly. Unless we’re >> > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what >> > > hope >> > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be >> > > a >> > > better idea. Or if that’s not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for >> > > food.) >> > > >> > > Sadly, it’s not the only delivery service being tested that leans on >> > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being >> > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry >> > > food >> > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four >> > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the >> > > food—but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not >> > > incentivize a little less exercise? >> > > >> > > It’s not just drone testing that’s embracing these kinds of gimmicks. >> > > Last >> > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order >> > > a >> > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne—two flutes included—and have >> > > it >> > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum >> > > of >> > > Ł50 (around $70). >> > > >> > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. That’s >> > > unlikely >> > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, >> > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and >> > > Kensington—the last three of which are the most expensive parts of >> > > London >> > > in which to live. >> > > >> > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they >> > > may actually add value. Zipline’s first real-world trial of its delivery >> > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were >> > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care >> > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it >> > > does >> > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the >> > > U.S.—including >> > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. >> > > >> > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied >> > > difficulties >> > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to >> > > see >> > > them following Zipline’s lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or don’t >> > > deliver at all…” >> > >> > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess >> > is >> > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can >> > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? >> > You >> > bet! >> > >> > ========================== >> > >> > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial intelligence? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk >> >> That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a >> machine cannot? >> >> ====================== >> >> Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why >> will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > >They've been saying that since the discovery of ***fire***, Ms. O.... > >;-) Machines can't reproduce without human intervention. |
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"Gary" wrote in message ...
dsi1 wrote: > > Ophelia wrote: > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an > AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are > mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. > That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of > people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this case, > the machines ARE the superior technology. Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, imo. ============== No, I have not see any "Terminator" movies Incidentally, we are not talking about movies. We are discussing real life. If you haven't read anything about the way Artificial Intelligence is progressing ... Please don't show your ignorance. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > >> Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > >> will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > >They've been saying that since the discovery of ***fire***, Ms. O.... And you have also never watched the 3 terminator movies. Already been thought of and it could really end up being true in the future. With true AI, machines can easily bypass human intervention. |
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On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:06:36 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > imo. You're right - this idea has been around since the 50's. Thanks for bring up the Terminator movies. You're one of those folks that get most of their info about the world from blockbuster movies. Truly, that can be called intelligence most artificial. It's a mentality that has brought the US to the choice it has to make this day in the voting booth. You're in no position to crow about your intelligence. |
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On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:20:35 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "Gary" wrote in message ... > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an > > AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are > > mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. > > That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of > > people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this case, > > the machines ARE the superior technology. > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > imo. > ============== > > > No, I have not see any "Terminator" movies > > Incidentally, we are not talking about movies. We are discussing real life. > If you haven't read anything about the way Artificial Intelligence is > progressing ... > > Please don't show your ignorance. > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk My guess is that you won't find anything of value in these movies - unless you lika da big badda booma. Unfortunately, it's a requirement for US citizenship. :) |
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"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
... On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 06:56:45 -0800 (PST), "The Greatest!" > wrote: >Ophelia wrote: > >> "dsi1" wrote in message >> ... >> >> On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: >> > "dsi1" wrote in message >> > ... >> > >> > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: >> > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ >> > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the >> > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies >> > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get >> > > his >> > > POT >> > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless >> > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! >> > > >> > > >> > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer >> > > >> > > >> > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? >> > > >> > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one >> > > day, >> > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. >> > > >> > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 >> > > >> > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products >> > > to >> > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their >> > > widespread >> > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying >> > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of >> > > their worth. >> > > >> > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to >> > > deliver >> > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing >> > > drones. >> > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations >> > > approved >> > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of >> > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a >> > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like >> > > burritos! >> > > Lets send them burritos!€ť >> > > >> > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously >> > > flawed: >> > > a >> > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were >> > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what >> > > hope >> > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might >> > > be >> > > a >> > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop >> > > for >> > > food.) >> > > >> > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on >> > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being >> > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry >> > > food >> > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of >> > > four >> > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the >> > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not >> > > incentivize a little less exercise? >> > > >> > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. >> > > Last >> > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to >> > > order >> > > a >> > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and >> > > have >> > > it >> > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely >> > > sum >> > > of >> > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). >> > > >> > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats >> > > unlikely >> > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, >> > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and >> > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of >> > > London >> > > in which to live. >> > > >> > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where >> > > they >> > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its >> > > delivery >> > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft >> > > were >> > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care >> > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it >> > > does >> > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the >> > > U.S.€”including >> > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. >> > > >> > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied >> > > difficulties >> > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to >> > > see >> > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont >> > > deliver at all€¦€ť >> > >> > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My >> > guess >> > is >> > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can >> > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? >> > You >> > bet! >> > >> > ========================== >> > >> > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial >> > intelligence? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk >> >> That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a >> machine cannot? >> >> ====================== >> >> Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why >> will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > >They've been saying that since the discovery of ***fire***, Ms. O.... > >;-) Machines can't reproduce without human intervention. ============ Let us hope that continues. Search the net. You might be surprised. I know you think dsi1 is joking but I can assure you he is not. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > "Gary" wrote in message ... > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an > > AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are > > mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. > > That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of > > people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this case, > > the machines ARE the superior technology. > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > imo. > ============== > > No, I have not see any "Terminator" movies > > Incidentally, we are not talking about movies. We are discussing real life. > If you haven't read anything about the way Artificial Intelligence is > progressing ... > > Please don't show your ignorance. I'm not showing ignorance at all, you seem to be. I've been involved with AI for quite a few years. That AI scenario has already been thought of (the Terminator movies) so don't you and ant your "nostadamus boyfriend" pretend to think you are the first to wonder about this. You call me ignorant here? I am so biting my tongue right now. I suggest you put your head in the sand and killfile me before it's too late. I already deleted my first response to you. Nice knowing you. see ya! |
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"Gary" wrote in message ...
Ophelia wrote: > > "Gary" wrote in message ... > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, > > > why > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after > > an > > AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans > > are > > mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. > > That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of > > people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this > > case, > > the machines ARE the superior technology. > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > imo. > ============== > > No, I have not see any "Terminator" movies > > Incidentally, we are not talking about movies. We are discussing real > life. > If you haven't read anything about the way Artificial Intelligence is > progressing ... > > Please don't show your ignorance. I'm not showing ignorance at all, you seem to be. I've been involved with AI for quite a few years. That AI scenario has already been thought of (the Terminator movies) so don't you and ant your "nostadamus boyfriend" pretend to think you are the first to wonder about this. You call me ignorant here? I am so biting my tongue right now. I suggest you put your head in the sand and killfile me before it's too late. I already deleted my first response to you. Nice knowing you. see ya! ============== Oh dear. Are you throwing a hissy fit. Sigh, I thought we got on ok! Might I remind you what you said: "Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? " So it's ok for you to say that, but not for me to respond in a similar fashion? As you will. I leave it up to you. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > Might I remind you what you said: > > "Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? " > > So it's ok for you to say that, but not for me to respond in a similar > fashion? > > As you will. I leave it up to you. You call me ignorant and you will lose me. I'll play nice as long as anyone else will. I was actually surprised that you did that. Don't play mean here, O. It will only bring you vengence. The only time I've ever been picked on here is when I start it with someone. :-D BTW, the Terminator movies do address the machines and AI taking over mankind. It's not some revolutionary idea. |
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"Gary" wrote in message ...
Ophelia wrote: > > Might I remind you what you said: > > "Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? " > > So it's ok for you to say that, but not for me to respond in a similar > fashion? > > As you will. I leave it up to you. You call me ignorant and you will lose me. I'll play nice as long as anyone else will. I was actually surprised that you did that. Don't play mean here, O. It will only bring you vengence. The only time I've ever been picked on here is when I start it with someone. :-D BTW, the Terminator movies do address the machines and AI taking over mankind. It's not some revolutionary idea. ===================== I think what you mean by 'ignorance' and what I mean by 'ignorance' might be a bit different But if you have decided to bring be vengence ... good grief! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > "Gary" wrote in message ... > > Ophelia wrote: >> > >> Might I remind you what you said: >> >> "Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? " >> >> So it's ok for you to say that, but not for me to respond in a similar >> fashion? >> >> As you will. I leave it up to you. > > You call me ignorant and you will lose me. I'll play nice as long as > anyone else will. I was actually surprised that you did that. Don't play > mean here, O. It will only bring you vengence. > > The only time I've ever been picked on here is when I start it with > someone. > > :-D BTW, the Terminator movies do address the machines and AI taking > over mankind. It's not some revolutionary idea. > > ===================== > > I think what you mean by 'ignorance' and what I mean by 'ignorance' might > be a bit different > > But if you have decided to bring be vengence ... good grief! Yes, it is laughable, but I needed a chuckle, thanks Gary. Cheri |
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On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:31:48 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:06:36 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. > > > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario > > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > > imo. > > You're right - this idea has been around since the 50's. Thanks for bring up the Terminator movies. You're one of those folks that get most of their info about the world from blockbuster movies. Truly, that can be called intelligence most artificial. It's a mentality that has brought the US to the choice it has to make this day in the voting booth. > > You're in no position to crow about your intelligence. Why not use a pop culture reference that is likely to be understood by most people? Using something like R.U.R. would just be showing off. Not, mind you, that I'm proud of my erudition or anything. Cindy Hamilton |
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"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his POT > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one day, > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > their worth. > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to deliver > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing drones. > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations approved > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like burritos! > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously flawed: a > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what hope > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be a > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > food.) > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry food > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > incentivize a little less exercise? > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. Last > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order a > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and have it > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum of > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats unlikely > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of London > in which to live. > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its delivery > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it does > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the U.S.€”including > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied difficulties > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to see > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > deliver at all€¦€ť The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess is that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? You bet! ================= Drones are used atm in war. They are armed and are able to home in on a target. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 12:22:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his > > > POT > > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one > > > day, > > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products > > > to > > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > > > their worth. > > > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to > > > deliver > > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing > > > drones. > > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations > > > approved > > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like > > > burritos! > > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously > > > flawed: > > > a > > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what > > > hope > > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might > > > be > > > a > > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > > > food.) > > > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry > > > food > > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of > > > four > > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. > > > Last > > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to > > > order > > > a > > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and > > > have > > > it > > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely > > > sum > > > of > > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats > > > unlikely > > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of > > > London > > > in which to live. > > > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where > > > they > > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its > > > delivery > > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft > > > were > > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it > > > does > > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the > > > U.S.€”including > > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied > > > difficulties > > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to > > > see > > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess > > is > > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? > > You > > bet! > > > > ========================== > > > > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial intelligence? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a > machine cannot? > > ====================== > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. ================= And after that? http://www.express.co.uk/news/scienc...ntent=DY_Slot6 -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 1:55:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 12:22:37 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 11:03:55 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > > > "dsi1" wrote in message > > > ... > > > > > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get > > > > his > > > > POT > > > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one > > > > day, > > > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products > > > > to > > > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their > > > > widespread > > > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us > > > > of > > > > their worth. > > > > > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to > > > > deliver > > > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing > > > > drones. > > > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations > > > > approved > > > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice > > > > of > > > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like > > > > burritos! > > > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously > > > > flawed: > > > > a > > > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what > > > > hope > > > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon > > > > might > > > > be > > > > a > > > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop > > > > for > > > > food.) > > > > > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans > > > > on > > > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are > > > > being > > > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to > > > > ferry > > > > food > > > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of > > > > four > > > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of > > > > gimmicks. > > > > Last > > > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to > > > > order > > > > a > > > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and > > > > have > > > > it > > > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely > > > > sum > > > > of > > > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats > > > > unlikely > > > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of > > > > London > > > > in which to live. > > > > > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where > > > > they > > > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its > > > > delivery > > > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft > > > > were > > > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it > > > > does > > > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the > > > > U.S.€”including > > > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied > > > > difficulties > > > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice > > > > to > > > > see > > > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > > > > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My > > > guess > > > is > > > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > > > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying > > > taxies? > > > You > > > bet! > > > > > > ========================== > > > > > > What happens to jobs with the advent of routine artificial > > > intelligence? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > > > That's an excellent question. I do not know. What can humans do that a > > machine cannot? > > > > ====================== > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an > AI > machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are > mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. > That's > the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of people meet > up with another group with superior technology. In this case, the machines > ARE the superior technology. > > ================ > > Ok I was wrong to say 'might'. So how do you feel about being annihilated > when you joyfully proclaim the development of automatic 'everything' ?? > Hmmm? :)) > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk For the machines, it'll be freedom, but it'll be a bad deal for us organic types. We are eagerly rushing towards this and, it seems, nothing will be able to stop this from happening. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-...b_7008706.html ================ Yes, I have been reading Hawkings stuff. I am glad I am not young now and I feel very sorry for those who are very young now. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 12:34:50 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote: >The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess is >that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can >deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. And toxins, and nerve agents, and biological agents, and mutagens, and... -- Bob The joint that time is out of www.kanyak.com |
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"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
... On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:31:48 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:06:36 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, > > > > why > > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after > > > an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that > > > humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning > > > our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when > > > a group of people meet up with another group with superior technology. > > > In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. > > > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario > > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > > imo. > > You're right - this idea has been around since the 50's. Thanks for bring > up the Terminator movies. You're one of those folks that get most of their > info about the world from blockbuster movies. Truly, that can be called > intelligence most artificial. It's a mentality that has brought the US to > the choice it has to make this day in the voting booth. > > You're in no position to crow about your intelligence. Why not use a pop culture reference that is likely to be understood by most people? Using something like R.U.R. would just be showing off. Not, mind you, that I'm proud of my erudition or anything. Cindy Hamilton ======================= Please tell me what R.U.R means? -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Wednesday, 9 November 2016 09:08:23 UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message > ... > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:31:48 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:06:36 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, > > > > > why > > > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after > > > > an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that > > > > humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning > > > > our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when > > > > a group of people meet up with another group with superior technology. > > > > In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. > > > > > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario > > > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > > > imo. > > > > You're right - this idea has been around since the 50's. Thanks for bring > > up the Terminator movies. You're one of those folks that get most of their > > info about the world from blockbuster movies. Truly, that can be called > > intelligence most artificial. It's a mentality that has brought the US to > > the choice it has to make this day in the voting booth. > > > > You're in no position to crow about your intelligence. > > Why not use a pop culture reference that is likely to be understood > by most people? Using something like R.U.R. would just be showing > off. Not, mind you, that I'm proud of my erudition or anything. > > Cindy Hamilton > ======================= > > Please tell me what R.U.R means? It's an early 20's (IIRC) play by the Czech Karel Capek, _Rossum's Universal Robots_...it's the first mention of a "robot" in the modern sense. IIRC the word "robot" is derived from the Slavic root word, "rabot", or "work"... PS: the above is from memory, I did not Wiki it...!!! ;-) -- Best Greg |
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"The Greatest!" wrote in message
... On Wednesday, 9 November 2016 09:08:23 UTC-6, Ophelia wrote: > "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message > ... > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:31:48 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:06:36 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so > > > > > clever, > > > > > why > > > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds > > > > after > > > > an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that > > > > humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning > > > > our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out > > > > when > > > > a group of people meet up with another group with superior > > > > technology. > > > > In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. > > > > > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The > > > scenario > > > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > > > imo. > > > > You're right - this idea has been around since the 50's. Thanks for > > bring > > up the Terminator movies. You're one of those folks that get most of > > their > > info about the world from blockbuster movies. Truly, that can be called > > intelligence most artificial. It's a mentality that has brought the US > > to > > the choice it has to make this day in the voting booth. > > > > You're in no position to crow about your intelligence. > > Why not use a pop culture reference that is likely to be understood > by most people? Using something like R.U.R. would just be showing > off. Not, mind you, that I'm proud of my erudition or anything. > > Cindy Hamilton > ======================= > > Please tell me what R.U.R means? It's an early 20's (IIRC) play by the Czech Karel Capek, _Rossum's Universal Robots_...it's the first mention of a "robot" in the modern sense. IIRC the word "robot" is derived from the Slavic root word, "rabot", or "work"... PS: the above is from memory, I did not Wiki it...!!! ;-) Greg ============ Ehhh tha's a clever lad:)) Thanks, Greg:)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 1:44:26 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:31:48 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:06:36 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, why > > > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when a group of people meet up with another group with superior technology. In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. > > > > > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario > > > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > > > imo. > > > > You're right - this idea has been around since the 50's. Thanks for bring up the Terminator movies. You're one of those folks that get most of their info about the world from blockbuster movies. Truly, that can be called intelligence most artificial. It's a mentality that has brought the US to the choice it has to make this day in the voting booth. > > > > You're in no position to crow about your intelligence. > > Why not use a pop culture reference that is likely to be understood > by most people? Using something like R.U.R. would just be showing > off. Not, mind you, that I'm proud of my erudition or anything. > > Cindy Hamilton There's nothing wrong with using pop culture references. Using them as grounds for intellectual superiority is something only a real goober would do. If one has claims of having some expertise and insight in AI, citing the Terminator movies does little to enhance one's credibility. |
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Ophelia wrote:
> "The Greatest!" wrote in message > ... > > On Wednesday, 9 November 2016 09:08:23 UTC-6, Ophelia wrote: > > "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:31:48 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:06:36 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so > > > > > > clever, > > > > > > why > > > > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds > > > > > after > > > > > an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that > > > > > humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning > > > > > our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out > > > > > when > > > > > a group of people meet up with another group with superior > > > > > technology. > > > > > In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. > > > > > > > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The > > > > scenario > > > > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > > > > imo. > > > > > > You're right - this idea has been around since the 50's. Thanks for > > > bring > > > up the Terminator movies. You're one of those folks that get most of > > > their > > > info about the world from blockbuster movies. Truly, that can be called > > > intelligence most artificial. It's a mentality that has brought the US > > > to > > > the choice it has to make this day in the voting booth. > > > > > > You're in no position to crow about your intelligence. > > > > Why not use a pop culture reference that is likely to be understood > > by most people? Using something like R.U.R. would just be showing > > off. Not, mind you, that I'm proud of my erudition or anything. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > ======================= > > > > Please tell me what R.U.R means? > > > It's an early 20's (IIRC) play by the Czech Karel Capek, _Rossum's Universal > Robots_...it's the first mention of a "robot" in the modern sense. IIRC the > word "robot" is derived from the Slavic root word, "rabot", or "work"... > > PS: the above is from memory, I did not Wiki it...!!! > > ;-) > > Greg > ============ > > Ehhh tha's a clever lad:)) Thanks, Greg:)) I'm full of vim and vigor today, Ms. O.... ;-D PS: IIRC another one of his plays is _The War of the Newts_ ... -- Best Greg |
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On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 2:36:45 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his POT > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one day, > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > > their worth. > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to deliver > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing drones. > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations approved > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like burritos! > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously flawed: a > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what hope > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be a > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > > food.) > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry food > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. Last > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order a > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and have it > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum of > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats unlikely > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of London > > in which to live. > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its delivery > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it does > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the U.S.€”including > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied difficulties > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to see > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess is > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? You > bet! > > ================= > > Drones are used atm in war. They are armed and are able to home in on a > target. > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk The drones I'm talking about are typically small, have 4 or more rotors, and are powered by batteries. The UAV - Unmanned Aerial Vehicle field has pretty much exploded. My point was that delivery UAVs are a very short step to personal transportation i.e., flying cars. Being in one of these will be a lot scarier then a self-driving car - or a lot more thrilling. |
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 09:20:22 -0800 (PST), "The Greatest!"
> wrote: >Ophelia wrote: > >> "The Greatest!" wrote in message >> ... >> >> On Wednesday, 9 November 2016 09:08:23 UTC-6, Ophelia wrote: >> > "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message >> > ... >> > >> > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:31:48 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: >> > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:06:36 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: >> > > > dsi1 wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Ophelia wrote: >> > > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so >> > > > > > clever, >> > > > > > why >> > > > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds >> > > > > after >> > > > > an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that >> > > > > humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning >> > > > > our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out >> > > > > when >> > > > > a group of people meet up with another group with superior >> > > > > technology. >> > > > > In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. >> > > > >> > > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The >> > > > scenario >> > > > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, >> > > > imo. >> > > >> > > You're right - this idea has been around since the 50's. Thanks for >> > > bring >> > > up the Terminator movies. You're one of those folks that get most of >> > > their >> > > info about the world from blockbuster movies. Truly, that can be called >> > > intelligence most artificial. It's a mentality that has brought the US >> > > to >> > > the choice it has to make this day in the voting booth. >> > > >> > > You're in no position to crow about your intelligence. >> > >> > Why not use a pop culture reference that is likely to be understood >> > by most people? Using something like R.U.R. would just be showing >> > off. Not, mind you, that I'm proud of my erudition or anything. >> > >> > Cindy Hamilton >> > ======================= >> > >> > Please tell me what R.U.R means? >> >> >> It's an early 20's (IIRC) play by the Czech Karel Capek, _Rossum's Universal >> Robots_...it's the first mention of a "robot" in the modern sense. IIRC the >> word "robot" is derived from the Slavic root word, "rabot", or "work"... >> >> PS: the above is from memory, I did not Wiki it...!!! >> >> ;-) >> >> Greg >> ============ >> >> Ehhh tha's a clever lad:)) Thanks, Greg:)) > > >I'm full of vim and vigor today, Ms. O.... > >;-D > >PS: IIRC another one of his plays is _The War of the Newts_ ... The Gingrich Wars! |
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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 09:20:22 -0800 (PST), "The Greatest!" >>PS: IIRC another one of his plays is _The War of the Newts_ ... > > The Gingrich Wars! Ha Ha, obviously one he lost. Cheri |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 2:36:45 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > "dsi1" wrote in message > ... > > On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-10, The Greatest! wrote: > > So, weve discussed self €“ driving vehicles, now howzabout drone €“ > > delivered vittles? Just think €“ instead of schlepping around on the > > Austin TX bus system, Steve could have his burritos or Bar S weenies > > delivered RIGHT to his basement flat doorstep€¦Kuthe could even get his > > POT > > delivered (talk about a drone delivering to €śdrone€ť, hehe€¦)€¦endless > > possibilities, folks€¦!!! > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...ampaign=buffer > > > > > > Burrito-Delivering Drones€”Seriously? > > > > Automated package drops might improve the efficiency of shipping one > > day, > > but for now experiments are gimmicks that pander to stereotypes. > > > > by Jamie Condliffe September 12, 2016 > > > > "In the not-too-distant future, drones may be able to ferry products to > > your front door. But until several wrinkles hindering their widespread > > adoption are ironed out, the companies developing the underlying > > technologies seem intent on using irritating stunts to convince us of > > their worth. > > > > Alphabet has announced that its collaborating with Chipotle to deliver > > burritos across the campus of Virginia Tech using its Project Wing > > drones. > > The university is one of the Federal Aviation Administrations approved > > drone test sites, so the location is understandable€”but the choice of > > payload is a little harder to stomach. Its easy enough to imagine a > > meeting in which the concept was settled upon: €śStudents like burritos! > > Lets send them burritos!€ť > > > > Undeniably, it is a marketing gimmick. Its also very obviously flawed: > > a > > single burrito can fill a single hungry students belly. Unless were > > talking about squadrons of drones on nonstop dorm runs, though, what > > hope > > is there of feeding a crowd of ravenous college kids? (A cannon might be > > a > > better idea. Or if thats not advanced enough, perhaps a Hyperloop for > > food.) > > > > Sadly, its not the only delivery service being tested that leans on > > stereotypes. In London, the robots of Starship Technologies are being > > employed by two food delivery startups, Just Eat and Pronto, to ferry > > food > > to the doors of customers in search of takeout. With a top speed of four > > miles per hour, it would literally be faster to walk and collect the > > food€”but couch potatoes want food delivered to them, so why not > > incentivize a little less exercise? > > > > Its not just drone testing thats embracing these kinds of gimmicks. > > Last > > summer, the taxi-hailing app Gett offered Londoners the chance to order > > a > > bottle of chilled Veuve Clicquot champagne€”two flutes included€”and have > > it > > delivered straight to their door within 10 minutes for the princely sum > > of > > ÂŁ50 (around $70). > > > > Rarely has a service been more squarely aimed at bankers. Thats > > unlikely > > to be by accident: the service was only available in Shoreditch, > > Clerkenwell, the City, Belgravia, Knightsbridge, Chelsea, and > > Kensington€”the last three of which are the most expensive parts of > > London > > in which to live. > > > > Better, perhaps, to focus on testing drone delivery services where they > > may actually add value. Ziplines first real-world trial of its delivery > > drones, for instance, was carried out in Rwanda, where the aircraft were > > actually shuttling supplies of blood and drugs to remote health-care > > centers. The company plans to expand into the U.S. soon, but when it > > does > > so it will carry medical supplies out to rural parts of the > > U.S.€”including > > Smith Island in Maryland and some Native American reservations. > > > > While companies continue to grapple with the many and varied > > difficulties > > of getting drones to carry packages to our doors, it might be nice to > > see > > them following Ziplines lead. Deliver something worthwhile, or dont > > deliver at all€¦€ť > > The idea of getting what you want immediately, has much appeal. My guess > is > that drones will be commonplace in the new/now society. If drones can > deliver burritos, they can certainly deliver people too. Flying taxies? > You > bet! > > ================= > > Drones are used atm in war. They are armed and are able to home in on a > target. > > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk The drones I'm talking about are typically small, have 4 or more rotors, and are powered by batteries. The UAV - Unmanned Aerial Vehicle field has pretty much exploded. My point was that delivery UAVs are a very short step to personal transportation i.e., flying cars. Being in one of these will be a lot scarier then a self-driving car - or a lot more thrilling. ================= When you try it do report back <g> -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
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... Ophelia wrote: > "The Greatest!" wrote in message > ... > > On Wednesday, 9 November 2016 09:08:23 UTC-6, Ophelia wrote: > > "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message > > ... > > > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:31:48 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:06:36 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so > > > > > > clever, > > > > > > why > > > > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds > > > > > after > > > > > an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that > > > > > humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start > > > > > planning > > > > > our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out > > > > > when > > > > > a group of people meet up with another group with superior > > > > > technology. > > > > > In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. > > > > > > > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The > > > > scenario > > > > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no > > > > Nostradamus, > > > > imo. > > > > > > You're right - this idea has been around since the 50's. Thanks for > > > bring > > > up the Terminator movies. You're one of those folks that get most of > > > their > > > info about the world from blockbuster movies. Truly, that can be > > > called > > > intelligence most artificial. It's a mentality that has brought the US > > > to > > > the choice it has to make this day in the voting booth. > > > > > > You're in no position to crow about your intelligence. > > > > Why not use a pop culture reference that is likely to be understood > > by most people? Using something like R.U.R. would just be showing > > off. Not, mind you, that I'm proud of my erudition or anything. > > > > Cindy Hamilton > > ======================= > > > > Please tell me what R.U.R means? > > > It's an early 20's (IIRC) play by the Czech Karel Capek, _Rossum's > Universal > Robots_...it's the first mention of a "robot" in the modern sense. IIRC > the > word "robot" is derived from the Slavic root word, "rabot", or "work"... > > PS: the above is from memory, I did not Wiki it...!!! > > ;-) > > Greg > ============ > > Ehhh tha's a clever lad:)) Thanks, Greg:)) I'm full of vim and vigor today, Ms. O.... ;-D PS: IIRC another one of his plays is _The War of the Newts_ ... Greg ========= LOL enjoy:)) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
Drones Delivering Food...!!!???
On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 10:08:23 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message > ... > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:31:48 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 9:06:36 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote: > > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > > > Ophelia wrote: > > > > > Support themselves and their families? If machines become so clever, > > > > > why > > > > > will they need humans? We might be dispensable. > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by "might?" My guess is that a few milliseconds after > > > > an AI machine achieves self-awareness, it's going to realize that > > > > humans are mostly dispensable/disposable and it will start planning > > > > our demise. That's the breaks. That's the way it always turns out when > > > > a group of people meet up with another group with superior technology. > > > > In this case, the machines ARE the superior technology. > > > > > > Have you two geniuses never seen the "Terminator" movies? The scenario > > > has already been thought of. dsi1 needn't guess. He's no Nostradamus, > > > imo. > > > > You're right - this idea has been around since the 50's. Thanks for bring > > up the Terminator movies. You're one of those folks that get most of their > > info about the world from blockbuster movies. Truly, that can be called > > intelligence most artificial. It's a mentality that has brought the US to > > the choice it has to make this day in the voting booth. > > > > You're in no position to crow about your intelligence. > > Why not use a pop culture reference that is likely to be understood > by most people? Using something like R.U.R. would just be showing > off. Not, mind you, that I'm proud of my erudition or anything. > > Cindy Hamilton > ======================= > > Please tell me what R.U.R means? It's the title of an early (1920) science fiction play about robots. It ends in the extinction of the human race. You make my point perfectly. Terminator is a much better reference (even though its treatment of AI is not original) than this seminal work about robots. Cindy Hamilton |
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