On 9/6/2016 7:05 PM, Je�us wrote:

> I don't understand the appeal of these kind of shows. There are
> literally millions of people around the world who can 'sing' to that
> standard. They generally lack nuance and character in their voices,
> and are more focused on imitating a particular vocal style, and end up
> sounding dry and sterile. And that is the difference between an
> ordinary and a great vocalist.
>

It is not just about singing. There are many good acts that get
highlighted and people can get the break they need to go pro.
Musicians, magicians, acrobats, dancers, you name it. There is really
some good, entertaining talent on the America version this year.

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:01:15 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/6/2016 7:05 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>> I don't understand the appeal of these kind of shows. There are
>> literally millions of people around the world who can 'sing' to that
>> standard. They generally lack nuance and character in their voices,
>> and are more focused on imitating a particular vocal style, and end up
>> sounding dry and sterile. And that is the difference between an
>> ordinary and a great vocalist.
>>
>
>It is not just about singing. There are many good acts that get
>highlighted and people can get the break they need to go pro.
>Musicians, magicians, acrobats, dancers, you name it. There is really
>some good, entertaining talent on the America version this year.

It's good that it is not limited to singing. I'm just not attuned to
what is broadly popular when it comes to any forms of entertainment.
I don't watch TV either for that reason. Lowest common denominator and
all that...

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On 9/6/2016 7:05 PM, Je�us wrote:

> I don't understand the appeal of these kind of shows. There are
> literally millions of people around the world who can 'sing' to that
> standard. They generally lack nuance and character in their voices,
> and are more focused on imitating a particular vocal style, and end up
> sounding dry and sterile. And that is the difference between an
> ordinary and a great vocalist.
>

It is not just about singing. There are many good acts that get
highlighted and people can get the break they need to go pro.
Musicians, magicians, acrobats, dancers, you name it. There is really
some good, entertaining talent on the America version this year.

==========

I agree! I don't like Cowell but I watch his shows for that reason.

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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On 9/6/2016 7:05 PM, Je�us wrote:
>
> > I don't understand the appeal of these kind of shows. There are
> > literally millions of people around the world who can 'sing' to that
> > standard. They generally lack nuance and character in their voices,
> > and are more focused on imitating a particular vocal style, and end up
> > sounding dry and sterile. And that is the difference between an
> > ordinary and a great vocalist.
> >
>
> It is not just about singing. There are many good acts that get
> highlighted and people can get the break they need to go pro.
> Musicians, magicians, acrobats, dancers, you name it. There is really
> some good, entertaining talent on the America version this year.
>
> ==========
>
> I agree! I don't like Cowell but I watch his shows for that reason.
>

Simon is the guy people like to hate. I like him. He's more honest in
his critique than the other judges, imo. For that reason he's often the
one not voting for someone. If you make Simon happy, you're in.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On 9/6/2016 7:05 PM, Je�us wrote:
>
> > I don't understand the appeal of these kind of shows. There are
> > literally millions of people around the world who can 'sing' to that
> > standard. They generally lack nuance and character in their voices,
> > and are more focused on imitating a particular vocal style, and end up
> > sounding dry and sterile. And that is the difference between an
> > ordinary and a great vocalist.
> >
>
> It is not just about singing. There are many good acts that get
> highlighted and people can get the break they need to go pro.
> Musicians, magicians, acrobats, dancers, you name it. There is really
> some good, entertaining talent on the America version this year.
>
> ==========
>
> I agree! I don't like Cowell but I watch his shows for that reason.
>

Simon is the guy people like to hate. I like him. He's more honest in
his critique than the other judges, imo. For that reason he's often the
one not voting for someone. If you make Simon happy, you're in.

===========

The only thing he is interested in is money.


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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> Simon is the guy people like to hate. I like him. He's more honest in
> his critique than the other judges, imo. For that reason he's often the
> one not voting for someone. If you make Simon happy, you're in.
>
> ===========
>
> The only thing he is interested in is money.

Same as most people. I like Simon because he ignores all the hard luck
stories on these shows. He rated them by performance only. He's brutally
honest.

I liked what he said to Tape Face the last time. Something like, "You
can take something completely stupid and make us laugh." I agree. Tape
Face is refreshing and funny. Too bad he has to compete with singers and
dancers.

My top two singers are that young girl that sings like an opera singer.
Amazing but also a bit weird to me. She's fantastic but it freaks me out
when she sings. It's not her natural voice at all.

My favorite is Grace with the ukulele. Amazing voice and the last song
was her own. I was complete won over with that.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> Simon is the guy people like to hate. I like him. He's more honest in
> his critique than the other judges, imo. For that reason he's often the
> one not voting for someone. If you make Simon happy, you're in.
>
> ===========
>
> The only thing he is interested in is money.

Same as most people. I like Simon because he ignores all the hard luck
stories on these shows. He rated them by performance only. He's brutally
honest.

I liked what he said to Tape Face the last time. Something like, "You
can take something completely stupid and make us laugh." I agree. Tape
Face is refreshing and funny. Too bad he has to compete with singers and
dancers.

My top two singers are that young girl that sings like an opera singer.
Amazing but also a bit weird to me. She's fantastic but it freaks me out
when she sings. It's not her natural voice at all.

My favorite is Grace with the ukulele. Amazing voice and the last song
was her own. I was complete won over with that.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
====

Aww I haven't see her.

As for him hating hard luck stories??? Are you crazy)) He loves a 'back
story'

On 9/7/2016 10:26 AM, Ophelia wrote:

>
> My favorite is Grace with the ukulele. Amazing voice and the last song
> was her own. I was complete won over with that.
>

She is amazing, but I wonder if she would do better had she waited a
couple of years. She is very talented for her age.

On 2016-09-07 10:09 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> Simon is the guy people like to hate. I like him. He's more honest in
>> his critique than the other judges, imo. For that reason he's often the
>> one not voting for someone. If you make Simon happy, you're in.
>>
>> ===========
>>
>> The only thing he is interested in is money.
>
> Same as most people. I like Simon because he ignores all the hard luck
> stories on these shows. He rated them by performance only. He's brutally
> honest.


I would prefer they do away with the hard luck stories and judge the
contestants on their musical talent instead of their drama. Simon seems
a bit of an ass for using the shock value of his comments.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...

> I liked what he said to Tape Face the last time. Something like, "You
> can take something completely stupid and make us laugh." I agree. Tape
> Face is refreshing and funny. Too bad he has to compete with singers and
> dancers.
>
> My top two singers are that young girl that sings like an opera singer.
> Amazing but also a bit weird to me. She's fantastic but it freaks me out
> when she sings. It's not her natural voice at all.
>
> My favorite is Grace with the ukulele. Amazing voice and the last song
> was her own. I was complete won over with that.

I found Tape Face tiresome after a few shows, don't know how he made it to
the semi's. I like Grace and also Laura, I'm not a huge opera fan, but that
girl is amazing. Gary if you want to discuss AGT the old American Idol group
discusses them each week. alt.tv.american-idol, not sure if you're
interested, but thought I'd mention it.

Cheri

Cheri wrote:
>
> Gary if you want to discuss AGT the old American Idol group
> discusses them each week. alt.tv.american-idol, not sure if you're
> interested, but thought I'd mention it.

Thank you muchly, Cheri. I subscribed to it as soon as I saw your post.
Interesting to read. I'll at least keep on lurking...might post someday
soon. Thank you for the pointer.