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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:06:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>Obvious what to do. They gave you their name in hopes of getting a >Christmas card from you. Miss Manners would do that. I like that Ed! She is now on my Christmas Card list! William |
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 08:34:00 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>William wrote: >> >> What is a proper tip at a "buffet" self serve restaurant where a >> server brings you water and does not come back to your table? > >Even at a buffet, the server will stop by and remove old plates. Those are not servers, those are bussers... c'mon, no one serves food at a buffet, patrons serve themselves... buffets are lower than going through the chow line in the military, at least in the chow line mess cooks ladle out the food. |
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:07:10 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote: >On 8/15/2016 8:34 AM, Gary wrote: >> William wrote: >>> >>> What is a proper tip at a "buffet" self serve restaurant where a >>> server brings you water and does not come back to your table? >> >> Even at a buffet, the server will stop by and remove old plates. I've >> never had one ignore us completely. Servers count on tips even in cheap >> restaurants. I always give them 20-30%. > >I tip as usual, too. Generally a buffet will be quite cheap >and the difference between 10 and 20% is negligible and why not >err on the side of generosity. As you say, they're watching your >table and removing dishes, making sure your drink isn't empty. >I suppose if they didn't do that I might feel differently. > >If it's an expensive buffet, the service is usually even more >attentive and I might think about leaving 15 rather than 20. >Again, the difference isn't life changing unless you are miserly. > >nancy Your experience with buffets is very different from mine. I've been to many all you can eat buffets, from all you can eat for $3.99 to top enders at $15.99... and this is going back many years when Vegas had the best buffets. As I remember I entered, paid the cashier and got on line, grabbed a tray, got utensils, napkins, and a large plate... moving down the line I served myself. At the better buffets there'd be someone in a chefs get up slicing a roast... if there was soup the bowls would be by the soup and people ladled their own. There'd be a beverage and dessert station, people got their own. The only service was when you got up to get more you left your plate and utensils and got fresh, someone came around with a cart and bussed your table. I don't remember any tipping at any buffet. At all the buffets I've been to, and there have been many, no one served me food or drink. At the best a hostess would come by and asked if I was enjoying myself. There 's a large Chinese buffet just west of Albany that I've been too maybe five times when I first moved here. The food wasn't great but it was passable and really wasn't the Chinese restaurant fare I was used to, it was best described as Hillybilly Oriental. There was a lot of rice and noodle dishes, a lot of starch to fill you up, they didn't even have chow mein. The best part was the dessert station, all sorts of baked goods and three big soft serve machines with every topping you can think of. Their lunch price was $4.99, dinner $8.99, not much difference in menu so I only tried dinner once. Last time I was there had to be about ten years ago, perhaps buffets have changed. There's a Chinese take out right in town here, I tried it twice. The second time I had to toss their food in a hedgerow for the critters, they have the worst food by far I've ever experienced anywhere, canned chow mein is gourmet by comparison. Yet the locals here think their food is fantastic, they actually boast about eating that crap. I do my own Chinese cooking, it's very simple and I don't need any stinkin' wok, this piece of cookware is better than a wok for large quantities, gets plenty hot for stir fry, with a 15" diameter it spans two burners on my gas stove, it's great for all sorts of quantity cooking... anyone who's into REAL cooking will appreciate this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=sr_1_3&sr=8-3 |
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 07:28:35 -0600, graham > wrote:
>On 8/15/2016 7:06 AM, William wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:22:21 -0600, graham > wrote: >> >>> No-tipping policies at US restaurants prompt delight – and disaster >>> >>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...fects-portland >>> >>> http://tiny.cc/ng4ydy >>> >>> Note the following point in the article: >>> "According to research by Michael Lynn, professor of consumer behaviour >>> and marketing at the Cornell University School of Hotel Administration, >>> most people tip not based on service, but *because they feel guilty and >>> obliged*. He also found that 53% of customers liked the idea of higher >>> menu prices where tipping is not permitted." >> >> I have a question about tipping in general. I have no problem paying >> tips for service in a restaurant. I just question different formats: >> >> -sit down, waitress takes your order, serves your meal, keeps your >> beverage glass full, frequently asks what you need, suggests possible >> dessert alternatives >> >> -Chinese Buffet, get table, person brings glass of water, you serve >> yourself food, water server never returns to offer more water >> >> -Golden Corral Buffet, pick table and lay your receipt on table, go >> get your food and beverage, come back to table and notice a person has >> signed their name on your receipt with a note saying they are going to >> be my server...but they never serve a thing to me while I am eating >> >> What would Miss Manners tell me to tip in these various scenarios? >> >> >> William >> >> >And what if the server is the owner's wife? If she's got nice tits I may slip a buck in her cleavage. |
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On 8/15/2016 8:49 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:07:10 -0400, Nancy Young > > wrote: > >> If it's an expensive buffet, the service is usually even more >> attentive and I might think about leaving 15 rather than 20. >> Again, the difference isn't life changing unless you are miserly. > Your experience with buffets is very different from mine. I've been > to many all you can eat buffets, from all you can eat for $3.99 to top > enders at $15.99... and this is going back many years when Vegas had > the best buffets. As I remember I entered, paid the cashier and got > on line, grabbed a tray, got utensils, napkins, and a large plate... > moving down the line I served myself. At the better buffets there'd > be someone in a chefs get up slicing a roast... if there was soup the > bowls would be by the soup and people ladled their own. There'd be a > beverage and dessert station, people got their own. The only service > was when you got up to get more you left your plate and utensils and > got fresh, someone came around with a cart and bussed your table. I > don't remember any tipping at any buffet. It's no giant secret that I don't really do buffets, I like to sit on my butt and have food brought to me when I eat out. My experience is limited. I ate at Golden Corral just a little while ago. Meal came to what, under $25? Somewhere in there. Yes, I got my own food, but a nice lady came by to take my dishes away and to ask it I wanted any more iced tea. She asked a few times. Ron left a fiver and off we went. From the sound of it, maybe we made that woman's day and she went out and ordered a Ferrari. Really, she was nice, I didn't have to dig around for quarters, who cares. Other than that, I used to go to a really fancy place once in a while, they would refill your water glass and refold your napkin in the time you were gone. And disappear. We tipped the usual there, too, even though we got our own food. Then there is the annual brunch buffet. You get most of your food but they keep the tables bused and bring you drinks and eggs dishes if you order those. Same deal with the tip. If you never see anyone, I wouldn't tip either. nancy |
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On 15 Aug 2016 16:12:57 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>On 2016-08-15, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> Sure the transition from waitress to engineer is easy enough. > >Certainly worked fer my engineer cow orker, who enhanced his >engineering income as a waiter in a high-end resto. Sure, she was a "cow orker", built like the dairy queen. |
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 19:14:43 -0400, William > wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:47:41 -0400, Nancy Young > wrote: > >>I don't. I stay home or go elsewhere. Are you being forced >>to eat there? >> >>Wait. (suspicious look) Are you in the joint? >> >>nancy > >I go there to get a wide selection of food to eat. I >usually try to fix myself one plate. I am not going to the buffet to >gorge myself. I take my drink to the table and also serve myself food. >Just because so called "Servers" have staked out an area of tables as >their territory, I believe they are expecting a tip just because you >happen to sit in their territory...whether they are waiting on you or >not. I wonder why they come and sign their name on your receipt as >your server and then not come back? Extreme stupidity. I will try to >educate them "as to exactly what causes me to leave money for them" on >the table if they give me the chance. > >But I do not go to the buffet to be waited on. > >William You sound like the sort who never bought a Mother's Day gift. |
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 17:29:40 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: > On 8/15/2016 12:12 PM, notbob wrote: > > On 2016-08-15, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > > > >> Sure the transition from waitress to engineer is easy enough. > > > > Certainly worked fer my engineer cow orker, who enhanced his > > engineering income as a waiter in a high-end resto. > > > > nb > I'm picturing a cow who earned extra funds working in a restaurant in > order to get job at a milk processing plant as an engineer. LOL > Maybe he was a sanitary engineer if he had to supplement his income by waiting tables. The engineers I knew could increase their salaries just by crossing the street to work for a new employer. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 05:29:54 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote: > It works here, SF, with some restaurants being in successful business for decades. > It depends on the restaurant and the community in which it serves its > customers. > No tipping restaurants in business for decades - here? You can't be serious. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 05:29:54 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 > > wrote: > > > It works here, SF, with some restaurants being in successful business for decades. > > It depends on the restaurant and the community in which it serves its > > customers. > > > No tipping restaurants in business for decades - here? You can't be > serious. I can see this working for lower end restaurants where even a good %tip wouldn't amount to much but the wait staff at the better restaurants wouldn't want any part of $15 per hour and no tipping. That would be a major pay cut to them. |
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In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says... > > On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:07:10 -0400, Nancy Young > > wrote: > > >On 8/15/2016 8:34 AM, Gary wrote: > >> William wrote: > >>> > >>> What is a proper tip at a "buffet" self serve restaurant where a > >>> server brings you water and does not come back to your table? > >> > >> Even at a buffet, the server will stop by and remove old plates. I've > >> never had one ignore us completely. Servers count on tips even in cheap > >> restaurants. I always give them 20-30%. > > > >I tip as usual, too. Generally a buffet will be quite cheap > >and the difference between 10 and 20% is negligible and why not > >err on the side of generosity. As you say, they're watching your > >table and removing dishes, making sure your drink isn't empty. > >I suppose if they didn't do that I might feel differently. > > > >If it's an expensive buffet, the service is usually even more > >attentive and I might think about leaving 15 rather than 20. > >Again, the difference isn't life changing unless you are miserly. > > > >nancy > > Your experience with buffets is very different from mine. I've been > to many all you can eat buffets, from all you can eat for $3.99 to top > enders at $15.99. Which decade are you talking about? |
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William wrote:
> > -Golden Corral Buffet, pick table and lay your receipt on table, go > get your food and beverage, come back to table and notice a person has > signed their name on your receipt with a note saying they are going to > be my server...but they never serve a thing to me while I am eating > > What would Miss Manners tell me to tip in these various scenarios? You're going out for a nice dinner. Don't be such a Scrooge. Leave a tip and quit bitching about it or just stay home and cook. I would rather serve myself with what I prefer and the amounts than someone deciding for me. Miss Manners would say: Find a different buffet where they don't know you for being a cheapskate. |
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graham wrote:
> > So you are happy with a waitress in a short skirt and big tits earning a > lot more that the cooks who actually prepare the food? Works for me, pal. ;-D |
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On 8/17/2016 3:22 AM, sf wrote:
> >> I'm picturing a cow who earned extra funds working in a restaurant in >> order to get job at a milk processing plant as an engineer. LOL >> > > Maybe he was a sanitary engineer if he had to supplement his income by > waiting tables. The engineers I knew could increase their salaries > just by crossing the street to work for a new employer. > Depends on the time and location. In this area in the 1980's companies were advertising on the radio for engineers. Bring your resume to our cocktail party/job fair. You could get a new higher paying job every week. Then it went to crap and engineers were moving out. About that time the big tech companies were going out of business too. DEC, Wang, Data General and more were closing up. |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 04:47:22 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> sf wrote: > > > > On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 05:29:54 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 > > > wrote: > > > > > It works here, SF, with some restaurants being in successful business for decades. > > > It depends on the restaurant and the community in which it serves its > > > customers. > > > > > No tipping restaurants in business for decades - here? You can't be > > serious. > > I can see this working for lower end restaurants where even a good %tip > wouldn't amount to much but the wait staff at the better restaurants > wouldn't want any part of $15 per hour and no tipping. That would be a > major pay cut to them. I'm saying that I know for a fact that some restaurants where I live have tried that no tipping thing and then got rid of it. None of them stayed with it for even one decade, let alone decades. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 20:49:00 +1000, Bruce >
wrote: > In article >, gravesend10 > @verizon.net says... > > > > On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:07:10 -0400, Nancy Young > > > wrote: > > > > >On 8/15/2016 8:34 AM, Gary wrote: > > >> William wrote: > > >>> > > >>> What is a proper tip at a "buffet" self serve restaurant where a > > >>> server brings you water and does not come back to your table? > > >> > > >> Even at a buffet, the server will stop by and remove old plates. I've > > >> never had one ignore us completely. Servers count on tips even in cheap > > >> restaurants. I always give them 20-30%. > > > > > >I tip as usual, too. Generally a buffet will be quite cheap > > >and the difference between 10 and 20% is negligible and why not > > >err on the side of generosity. As you say, they're watching your > > >table and removing dishes, making sure your drink isn't empty. > > >I suppose if they didn't do that I might feel differently. > > > > > >If it's an expensive buffet, the service is usually even more > > >attentive and I might think about leaving 15 rather than 20. > > >Again, the difference isn't life changing unless you are miserly. > > > > > >nancy > > > > Your experience with buffets is very different from mine. I've been > > to many all you can eat buffets, from all you can eat for $3.99 to top > > enders at $15.99. > > Which decade are you talking about? Seriously. Of course, you can also question what his version of "top end" is too. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:41:04 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> William wrote: > > > > -Golden Corral Buffet, pick table and lay your receipt on table, go > > get your food and beverage, come back to table and notice a person has > > signed their name on your receipt with a note saying they are going to > > be my server...but they never serve a thing to me while I am eating > > > > What would Miss Manners tell me to tip in these various scenarios? > > You're going out for a nice dinner. Don't be such a Scrooge. Leave a tip > and quit bitching about it or just stay home and cook. I would rather > serve myself with what I prefer and the amounts than someone deciding > for me. > > Miss Manners would say: > Find a different buffet where they don't know you for being a > cheapskate. Buffet says it all. They take dirty plates away and yes, I agree he's a cheapskate. Throw $5-10 on the table. Sheesh. If they can't dig into their pocket for a measly tip, then they should be eating at home or going to a drive through. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:16:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 8/17/2016 3:22 AM, sf wrote: > > > > >> I'm picturing a cow who earned extra funds working in a restaurant in > >> order to get job at a milk processing plant as an engineer. LOL > >> > > > > Maybe he was a sanitary engineer if he had to supplement his income by > > waiting tables. The engineers I knew could increase their salaries > > just by crossing the street to work for a new employer. > > > > Depends on the time and location. In this area in the 1980's companies > were advertising on the radio for engineers. Bring your resume to our > cocktail party/job fair. You could get a new higher paying job every > week. Then it went to crap and engineers were moving out. About that > time the big tech companies were going out of business too. DEC, Wang, > Data General and more were closing up. Now they're crying for engineers again. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On 2016-08-17 9:41 AM, Gary wrote:
> William wrote: > You're going out for a nice dinner. Don't be such a Scrooge. Leave a tip > and quit bitching about it or just stay home and cook. I would rather > serve myself with what I prefer and the amounts than someone deciding > for me. The next time you get your gas tank filled up, give the attendant a 15% tip. If it is self serve, give the cashier the same. They are both making minimum wage. If you can afford to go out in your car and enjoy the luxury of getting gas you can afford to tip. > > Miss Manners would say: > Find a different buffet where they don't know you for being a > cheapskate. > |
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On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 4:39:48 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> > Buffet says it all. They take dirty plates away and yes, I agree he's > a cheapskate. Throw $5-10 on the table. > > $5 - $10 tip at a buffet???? Only if lobster tails and filet mignon and pate de foie gras are on that buffet. Lunch buffets around here are in the $5 - $10 range around here and I'm certainly not going to give them a 100% tip. I drink water when I go out to eat, no matter where it is and 95% of the time I don't drink anything until I'm finished with my meal. So the attendant only takes away my empty dishes and depending on the price of the meal I will usually leave $1. That's the norm around here; if I eat at a restaurant that actually takes my order, brings me different dishes, then yes, I will tip accordingly. Not just pull out a five or ten dollar bill and throw it on the table. The tip at a restaurant where my order was taken and I'm served will depend on the server. If my meal is brought to me with part of it missing and my server vanishes only to show up to bring me the bill will be reflected in the size of the tip. |
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On 8/17/2016 1:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-17 9:41 AM, Gary wrote: >> William wrote: > >> You're going out for a nice dinner. Don't be such a Scrooge. Leave a tip >> and quit bitching about it or just stay home and cook. I would rather >> serve myself with what I prefer and the amounts than someone deciding >> for me. > > The next time you get your gas tank filled up, give the attendant a 15% > tip. If it is self serve, give the cashier the same. They are both > making minimum wage. If you can afford to go out in your car and enjoy > the luxury of getting gas you can afford to tip. > > > > >> >> Miss Manners would say: >> Find a different buffet where they don't know you for being a >> cheapskate. >> > I'll leave a 20% or more tip because I have great empathy for those people that serve us food. My dad is a great dad but it's embarrassing for me when he pays and leaves a tip at restaurants. Sometimes I'll leave a few bucks supplementary tip. |
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On 2016-08-17 7:51 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/17/2016 1:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2016-08-17 9:41 AM, Gary wrote: >>> William wrote: >> >>> You're going out for a nice dinner. Don't be such a Scrooge. Leave a tip >>> and quit bitching about it or just stay home and cook. I would rather >>> serve myself with what I prefer and the amounts than someone deciding >>> for me. >> >> The next time you get your gas tank filled up, give the attendant a 15% >> tip. If it is self serve, give the cashier the same. They are both >> making minimum wage. If you can afford to go out in your car and enjoy >> the luxury of getting gas you can afford to tip. > > I'll leave a 20% or more tip because I have great empathy for those > people that serve us food. My dad is a great dad but it's embarrassing > for me when he pays and leaves a tip at restaurants. Sometimes I'll > leave a few bucks supplementary tip. Why are you concerned only with minimum wage servers and not all the other people working for minimum wage? |
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On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-17 7:51 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > On 8/17/2016 1:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2016-08-17 9:41 AM, Gary wrote: > >>> William wrote: > >> > >>> You're going out for a nice dinner. Don't be such a Scrooge. Leave a tip > >>> and quit bitching about it or just stay home and cook. I would rather > >>> serve myself with what I prefer and the amounts than someone deciding > >>> for me. > >> > >> The next time you get your gas tank filled up, give the attendant a 15% > >> tip. If it is self serve, give the cashier the same. They are both > >> making minimum wage. If you can afford to go out in your car and enjoy > >> the luxury of getting gas you can afford to tip. > > > > > I'll leave a 20% or more tip because I have great empathy for those > > people that serve us food. My dad is a great dad but it's embarrassing > > for me when he pays and leaves a tip at restaurants. Sometimes I'll > > leave a few bucks supplementary tip. > Why are you concerned only with minimum wage servers and not all the > other people working for minimum wage? I'll always tip when there's a system for tipping established. I'm mot going to tip the guy at Taco Bell because that's not usual or customary - poor *******! |
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On 2016-08-17 9:25 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2016-08-17 7:51 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> On 8/17/2016 1:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>> On 2016-08-17 9:41 AM, Gary wrote: >>>>> William wrote: >>>> >>>>> You're going out for a nice dinner. Don't be such a Scrooge. Leave a tip >>>>> and quit bitching about it or just stay home and cook. I would rather >>>>> serve myself with what I prefer and the amounts than someone deciding >>>>> for me. >>>> >>>> The next time you get your gas tank filled up, give the attendant a 15% >>>> tip. If it is self serve, give the cashier the same. They are both >>>> making minimum wage. If you can afford to go out in your car and enjoy >>>> the luxury of getting gas you can afford to tip. >> >>> >>> I'll leave a 20% or more tip because I have great empathy for those >>> people that serve us food. My dad is a great dad but it's embarrassing >>> for me when he pays and leaves a tip at restaurants. Sometimes I'll >>> leave a few bucks supplementary tip. >> Why are you concerned only with minimum wage servers and not all the >> other people working for minimum wage? > > I'll always tip when there's a system for tipping established. I'm mot going to tip the guy at Taco Bell because that's not usual or customary - poor *******! > Why not? They are serving food and making minimum wage. |
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On 8/17/2016 7:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > The next time you get your gas tank filled up, give the attendant a 15% > tip. If it is self serve, give the cashier the same. They are both > making minimum wage. If you can afford to go out in your car and enjoy > the luxury of getting gas you can afford to tip. > If I pay at the pump I'm not tipping anyone. If I go to a full service I tip though, and it is appreciated. One station I use on a regular basis pumps my gas for 4 cents less than the self serve name brand. No sense freezing my ass off when someone is getting paid to do so. if every customer gave them just a buck or two the attendant would do well. At busy times the can easily do 15 cars an hour. |
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On 2016-08-17 9:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/17/2016 7:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >> >> The next time you get your gas tank filled up, give the attendant a 15% >> tip. If it is self serve, give the cashier the same. They are both >> making minimum wage. If you can afford to go out in your car and enjoy >> the luxury of getting gas you can afford to tip. >> > > If I pay at the pump I'm not tipping anyone. If I go to a full service > I tip though, and it is appreciated. One station I use on a regular > basis pumps my gas for 4 cents less than the self serve name brand. No > sense freezing my ass off when someone is getting paid to do so. if > every customer gave them just a buck or two the attendant would do well. > At busy times the can easily do 15 cars an hour. > I can't remember the last time I had full service here. All out gas stations are self serve. The cashiers get minimum wage just like servers. This thread has been about tipping at buffets... self service restaurants. |
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On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:35:32 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-08-17 9:25 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2016-08-17 7:51 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >>> On 8/17/2016 1:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >>>> On 2016-08-17 9:41 AM, Gary wrote: > >>>>> William wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> You're going out for a nice dinner. Don't be such a Scrooge. Leave a tip > >>>>> and quit bitching about it or just stay home and cook. I would rather > >>>>> serve myself with what I prefer and the amounts than someone deciding > >>>>> for me. > >>>> > >>>> The next time you get your gas tank filled up, give the attendant a 15% > >>>> tip. If it is self serve, give the cashier the same. They are both > >>>> making minimum wage. If you can afford to go out in your car and enjoy > >>>> the luxury of getting gas you can afford to tip. > >> > >>> > >>> I'll leave a 20% or more tip because I have great empathy for those > >>> people that serve us food. My dad is a great dad but it's embarrassing > >>> for me when he pays and leaves a tip at restaurants. Sometimes I'll > >>> leave a few bucks supplementary tip. > >> Why are you concerned only with minimum wage servers and not all the > >> other people working for minimum wage? > > > > I'll always tip when there's a system for tipping established. I'm mot going to tip the guy at Taco Bell because that's not usual or customary - poor *******! > > > > > Why not? They are serving food and making minimum wage. I just explained it to you. Do you give money to people that don't expect it? I thought so... |
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On 8/17/2016 9:14 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> I'll leave a 20% or more tip because I have great empathy for those >> people that serve us food. My dad is a great dad but it's embarrassing >> for me when he pays and leaves a tip at restaurants. Sometimes I'll >> leave a few bucks supplementary tip. > Why are you concerned only with minimum wage servers and not all the > other people working for minimum wage? In the US, most servers make a sub-minimum wage because they are tipped. State may be higher than the Federal The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. |
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On 8/17/2016 9:39 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> If I pay at the pump I'm not tipping anyone. If I go to a full service >> I tip though, and it is appreciated. One station I use on a regular >> basis pumps my gas for 4 cents less than the self serve name brand. No >> sense freezing my ass off when someone is getting paid to do so. if >> every customer gave them just a buck or two the attendant would do well. >> At busy times the can easily do 15 cars an hour. >> > > I can't remember the last time I had full service here. All out gas > stations are self serve. The cashiers get minimum wage just like > servers. This thread has been about tipping at buffets... self service > restaurants. NJ and OR do not allow self serve gas. MA lets the town fire marshal decide so there is a mix of both. Typically, the price is the same so no reason to pump it myself. I live in CT but work in MA and they have lower taxes, about 30 cents a gallon less. |
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On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 8:36:13 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > If I pay at the pump I'm not tipping anyone. If I go to a full service > I tip though, and it is appreciated. One station I use on a regular > basis pumps my gas for 4 cents less than the self serve name brand. No > sense freezing my ass off when someone is getting paid to do so. if > every customer gave them just a buck or two the attendant would do well. > At busy times the can easily do 15 cars an hour. > > I've not seen a station around here that pumps gas for at least 15 years. There *might* be one on the other side of town, but I can't say there is or isn't. |
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On 2016-08-17 9:25 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith > wrote: >> On 2016-08-17 7:51 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> On 8/17/2016 1:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>> On 2016-08-17 9:41 AM, Gary wrote: >>>>> William wrote: >>>> >>>>> You're going out for a nice dinner. Don't be such a Scrooge. >>>>> Leave a tip and quit bitching about it or just stay home and >>>>> cook. I would rather serve myself with what I prefer and the >>>>> amounts than someone deciding for me. >>>> >>>> The next time you get your gas tank filled up, give the >>>> attendant a 15% tip. If it is self serve, give the cashier the >>>> same. They are both making minimum wage. If you can afford to >>>> go out in your car and enjoy the luxury of getting gas you can >>>> afford to tip. >> >>> >>> I'll leave a 20% or more tip because I have great empathy for >>> those people that serve us food. My dad is a great dad but it's >>> embarrassing for me when he pays and leaves a tip at restaurants. >>> Sometimes I'll leave a few bucks supplementary tip. >> Why are you concerned only with minimum wage servers and not all >> the other people working for minimum wage? > > I'll always tip when there's a system for tipping established. I'm > mot going to tip the guy at Taco Bell because that's not usual or > customary - poor *******! > Well, I still don't understand it. I realize that in some places people who wait on tables get a lower minimum wage because it expected that they will get tips. Around here it is only people serving liquor directly to customers who get a lower minimum. Waiters in non licensed restaurants get the same minimum wage as the store clerks, gas station attendants, and some factory jobs. |
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On 8/17/2016 9:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> NJ and OR do not allow self serve gas. MA lets the town fire marshal > decide so there is a mix of both. Typically, the price is the same so > no reason to pump it myself. I live in CT but work in MA and they have > lower taxes, about 30 cents a gallon less. The subject has reared its ugly head again, with a lot of push back. It's a matter of time, I suppose, but for now I'm happy to sit in my car and let the attendant fill my tank. nancy |
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On 2016-08-17 9:49 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/17/2016 9:14 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >>> >>> I'll leave a 20% or more tip because I have great empathy for those >>> people that serve us food. My dad is a great dad but it's embarrassing >>> for me when he pays and leaves a tip at restaurants. Sometimes I'll >>> leave a few bucks supplementary tip. >> Why are you concerned only with minimum wage servers and not all the >> other people working for minimum wage? > > In the US, most servers make a sub-minimum wage because they are tipped. > It is not the same here in Canada. The minimum wage is $11.25/ hr, $10.55 for students, and $9.80 for people serving alcohol. |
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On 2016-08-17 9:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/17/2016 9:39 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > > NJ and OR do not allow self serve gas. MA lets the town fire marshal > decide so there is a mix of both. Typically, the price is the same so > no reason to pump it myself. I live in CT but work in MA and they have > lower taxes, about 30 cents a gallon less. Full service gas stations are very rare here. I don't know how other people's observations compare with mine, but self service seems to be so much faster than full service. Full service stations have a limited number of pumps because they have to man them. You had to wait for the attendant to get to you and then wait to pay. There were rarely more than four pumps. Most stations here now have at least four pumps and each are double sided, so that is 8 pumps. With people doing it themselves they are in and out faster. That has led to a drastic reduction in the number of gas stations. There used to be six stations in my little hamlet, three of them right "downtown" (two stores, one bank, one greasy spoon, one bakery and three gas stations. Now there is only one, and it 2 miles from "downtown", at a busy intersection. In the next hamlet there used to be 6, now down to one. |
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:08:55 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2016-08-17 9:55 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 8/17/2016 9:39 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >> > >> NJ and OR do not allow self serve gas. MA lets the town fire marshal >> decide so there is a mix of both. Typically, the price is the same so >> no reason to pump it myself. I live in CT but work in MA and they have >> lower taxes, about 30 cents a gallon less. > > >Full service gas stations are very rare here. I don't know how other >people's observations compare with mine, but self service seems to be so >much faster than full service. Full service stations have a limited >number of pumps because they have to man them. You had to wait for the >attendant to get to you and then wait to pay. There were rarely more >than four pumps. Most stations here now have at least four pumps and >each are double sided, so that is 8 pumps. With people doing it >themselves they are in and out faster. That has led to a drastic >reduction in the number of gas stations. There used to be six stations >in my little hamlet, three of them right "downtown" (two stores, one >bank, one greasy spoon, one bakery and three gas stations. Now there is >only one, and it 2 miles from "downtown", at a busy intersection. In the >next hamlet there used to be 6, now down to one. > There are none here, though I know if you are disabled and can't do it there are a few who will serve you, by arrangement so to speak. At first there was at least one pump which said 'service' but they've gone now, all self service. |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:32:34 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote: > Lunch buffets around here are in the $5 - $10 range around > here and I'm certainly not going to give them a 100% tip. Feedbag type buffets seem to be typical of those who complain about leaving a tip. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:14:55 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: > On 2016-08-17 7:51 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > On 8/17/2016 1:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2016-08-17 9:41 AM, Gary wrote: > >>> William wrote: > >> > >>> You're going out for a nice dinner. Don't be such a Scrooge. Leave a tip > >>> and quit bitching about it or just stay home and cook. I would rather > >>> serve myself with what I prefer and the amounts than someone deciding > >>> for me. > >> > >> The next time you get your gas tank filled up, give the attendant a 15% > >> tip. If it is self serve, give the cashier the same. They are both > >> making minimum wage. If you can afford to go out in your car and enjoy > >> the luxury of getting gas you can afford to tip. > > > > > I'll leave a 20% or more tip because I have great empathy for those > > people that serve us food. My dad is a great dad but it's embarrassing > > for me when he pays and leaves a tip at restaurants. Sometimes I'll > > leave a few bucks supplementary tip. > Why are you concerned only with minimum wage servers and not all the > other people working for minimum wage? Maybe he does. You're only one among several here who complain about tip jars. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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