On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
> wrote:

wrote:
>
>
> We dread the thought
>> that McDogs is going to start appearing
>
>
>Why? Would you say the same about Tim Horton's or Canadian Tire appearing in Cuba?

Yes - though perhaps Crappy Tire would be useful to the Cubans

On 2016-07-18 10:50 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
> > wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> We dread the thought
>>> that McDogs is going to start appearing
>>
>>
>> Why? Would you say the same about Tim Horton's or Canadian Tire appearing in Cuba?
>
> Yes - though perhaps Crappy Tire would be useful to the Cubans
>
Hortons is a pretty sad statement of our standards these days. They
used to make good coffee and darned good donuts. They had quite a
variety of donuts and made them in the store. They have cut way back on
the donuts and have tried tarts, pies and cakes but without much luck.
Now they have a selection of soups and sandwiches which are not great,
with the exception of the Thai chicken soup which they serve only
occasionally. Their coffee went way, way downhill. About a year ago
they brought out the dark roast, which was a little closer to what it
used to be, but I just don't like it anymore. I used to go to Hortons
once or twice a day but now it is more like once a month.

On 7/18/2016 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-07-18 10:50 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> We dread the thought
>>>> that McDogs is going to start appearing
>>>
>>>
>>> Why? Would you say the same about Tim Horton's or Canadian Tire
>>> appearing in Cuba?
>>
>> Yes - though perhaps Crappy Tire would be useful to the Cubans
>>
> Hortons is a pretty sad statement of our standards these days. They
> used to make good coffee and darned good donuts. They had quite a
> variety of donuts and made them in the store. They have cut way back on
> the donuts and have tried tarts, pies and cakes but without much luck.
> Now they have a selection of soups and sandwiches which are not great,
> with the exception of the Thai chicken soup which they serve only
> occasionally. Their coffee went way, way downhill. About a year ago
> they brought out the dark roast, which was a little closer to what it
> used to be, but I just don't like it anymore. I used to go to Hortons
> once or twice a day but now it is more like once a month.

I avoid TH because of the lousy service!
Graham

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:52:47 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 7/18/2016 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-07-18 10:50 AM, wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We dread the thought
>>>>> that McDogs is going to start appearing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why? Would you say the same about Tim Horton's or Canadian Tire
>>>> appearing in Cuba?
>>>
>>> Yes - though perhaps Crappy Tire would be useful to the Cubans
>>>
>> Hortons is a pretty sad statement of our standards these days. They
>> used to make good coffee and darned good donuts. They had quite a
>> variety of donuts and made them in the store. They have cut way back on
>> the donuts and have tried tarts, pies and cakes but without much luck.
>> Now they have a selection of soups and sandwiches which are not great,
>> with the exception of the Thai chicken soup which they serve only
>> occasionally. Their coffee went way, way downhill. About a year ago
>> they brought out the dark roast, which was a little closer to what it
>> used to be, but I just don't like it anymore. I used to go to Hortons
>> once or twice a day but now it is more like once a month.
>
>I avoid TH because of the lousy service!
>Graham

Haven't been in one for about 20 years - when they started importing
frozen doughnuts from Ontario rather than the individual franchise
making their own. I didn't know they were doing that, ordered a Honey
Crueller and it was inedible, yuck!

On 7/18/2016 10:08 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:52:47 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 7/18/2016 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2016-07-18 10:50 AM, wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We dread the thought
>>>>>> that McDogs is going to start appearing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Would you say the same about Tim Horton's or Canadian Tire
>>>>> appearing in Cuba?
>>>>
>>>> Yes - though perhaps Crappy Tire would be useful to the Cubans
>>>>
>>> Hortons is a pretty sad statement of our standards these days. They
>>> used to make good coffee and darned good donuts. They had quite a
>>> variety of donuts and made them in the store. They have cut way back on
>>> the donuts and have tried tarts, pies and cakes but without much luck.
>>> Now they have a selection of soups and sandwiches which are not great,
>>> with the exception of the Thai chicken soup which they serve only
>>> occasionally. Their coffee went way, way downhill. About a year ago
>>> they brought out the dark roast, which was a little closer to what it
>>> used to be, but I just don't like it anymore. I used to go to Hortons
>>> once or twice a day but now it is more like once a month.
>>
>> I avoid TH because of the lousy service!
>> Graham
>
> Haven't been in one for about 20 years - when they started importing
> frozen doughnuts from Ontario rather than the individual franchise
> making their own. I didn't know they were doing that, ordered a Honey
> Crueller and it was inedible, yuck!
>
The few times I've visited, the line-ups were long and moved at a
glacially slow rate. They appear to be badly organised behind the counter.
Graham

On 2016-07-18 11:52 AM, graham wrote:
> On 7/18/2016 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-07-18 10:50 AM, wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We dread the thought
>>>>> that McDogs is going to start appearing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why? Would you say the same about Tim Horton's or Canadian Tire
>>>> appearing in Cuba?
>>>
>>> Yes - though perhaps Crappy Tire would be useful to the Cubans
>>>
>> Hortons is a pretty sad statement of our standards these days. They
>> used to make good coffee and darned good donuts. They had quite a
>> variety of donuts and made them in the store. They have cut way back on
>> the donuts and have tried tarts, pies and cakes but without much luck.
>> Now they have a selection of soups and sandwiches which are not great,
>> with the exception of the Thai chicken soup which they serve only
>> occasionally. Their coffee went way, way downhill. About a year ago
>> they brought out the dark roast, which was a little closer to what it
>> used to be, but I just don't like it anymore. I used to go to Hortons
>> once or twice a day but now it is more like once a month.
>
> I avoid TH because of the lousy service!


That depends a lot on the location. Some of them are very slow while
others are very fast. I know the one near the QEW in Vineland used to be
painfully slow but improved. I was on the road most of the time and
stopped at most of them in our district, but I rarely go to them anymore.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2016-07-18 10:50 AM, wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT), "The Greatest!"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> We dread the thought
> >>> that McDogs is going to start appearing
> >>
> >>
> >> Why? Would you say the same about Tim Horton's or Canadian Tire appearing in Cuba?
> >
> > Yes - though perhaps Crappy Tire would be useful to the Cubans
> >
> Hortons is a pretty sad statement of our standards these days. They
> used to make good coffee and darned good donuts. They had quite a
> variety of donuts and made them in the store. They have cut way back on
> the donuts and have tried tarts, pies and cakes but without much luck.
> Now they have a selection of soups and sandwiches which are not great,
> with the exception of the Thai chicken soup which they serve only
> occasionally. Their coffee went way, way downhill. About a year ago
> they brought out the dark roast, which was a little closer to what it
> used to be, but I just don't like it anymore. I used to go to Hortons
> once or twice a day but now it is more like once a month.

I notice you still go though. what's with that if quality has failed?

On 2016-07-18 12:52 PM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>

>> Their coffee went way, way downhill. About a year ago
>> they brought out the dark roast, which was a little closer to what it
>> used to be, but I just don't like it anymore. I used to go to Hortons
>> once or twice a day but now it is more like once a month.
>
> I notice you still go though. what's with that if quality has failed?


It is not totally undrinkable. I go on kayak club paddles several times
a week and if I am running early and have time I grab a coffee to go.
There are preferred places, but Hortons are everywhere around here. I
live in town of 15,000 and he had three. Now we are down to two.