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![]() "barbie gee" > wrote in message hcrg.pbz... > > > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: > >> >> "Janet B" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Tue, 31 May 2016 09:19:08 -0600, graham > wrote: >>> >>>> On 31/05/2016 4:45 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "graham" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On 30/05/2016 4:09 PM, Roy wrote: >>>>>>> On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 2:25:00 PM UTC-6, graham wrote: >>>>>>>> On 30/05/2016 1:30 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "l not -l" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 29-May-2016, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 29, 2016 at 1:18:55 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When Mom was alive she kept seeing ads for probiotics. She >>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, >>>>>>>>>>>>> "What's that?" Beats me, but be assured they're trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>> sell >>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>> yogurt. ![]() >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Probiotics have more good bacteria than just plain >>>>>>>>>>>> yogurt. I learned they can REALLY help with severe >>>>>>>>>>>> gut issues that for some unfathomable reason I was >>>>>>>>>>>> plagued with 2 years ago two or three times. I >>>>>>>>>>>> take a probiotic capsule daily and that misery seems >>>>>>>>>>>> to be a thing of the past. Don't know what brought it >>>>>>>>>>>> on either. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We now know that one reason for the appendix is that it's a >>>>>>>>>>> natural >>>>>>>>>>> source >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of probiotics. People who have had theirs removed, need to >>>>>>>>>>> supplement. >>>>>>>>>> How do we know this, an article in Prevention, or similar, >>>>>>>>>> magazine or >>>>>>>>>> peer-reviewed, published research? It seems odd that if this is >>>>>>>>>> true >>>>>>>>>> medical knowledge, that no doctor has suggested probiotics to me >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> the 66 >>>>>>>>>> years I have been without an appendix (removed as a young child). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My naturopath first told me this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Naturopaths are quacks. If you believe him, you'll believe >>>>>>>> anything! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +++ on the quacks...one of my daughters believes what they say about >>>>>>> vaccinations and refuses to get her son immunized against any of the >>>>>>> nasty diseases. She will not listen to reason...must have inherited >>>>>>> that from her mother. Too bad, because immunization has been proven >>>>>>> to be effective for eons. >>>>>>> ==== >>>>>>> >>>>>> How awful for you! >>>>>> I'm fortunate in that regard as both sets of my grandchildren have >>>>>> had >>>>>> the appropriate jabs - including my grandson having the HPV jab. >>>>> >>>>> I hadn't heard of that. I had to look it up! >>>>> >>>> They gave it to girls at first then they realised that boys can become >>>> carriers too. >>>> Graham >>> >>> the overall problem is that if it isn't received at an early enough >>> age, it is too late. Because either the girl will become sexually >>> active and exposed or if 'pure', chances are her husband will have >>> been exposed. I would really be angry at my mother if she left me >>> open to cancer when there was a good way to avoid it. >>> Janet US >> >> The vaccine can cause paralysis. Not a chance I'm willing to take. > > citation, and frequency of this adverse affect per total number of those > vaccinated, please. I don't have those statistics. I did put up links. The Drs. we see say that they can only offer the vaccine. It is up to us to do research. They can not recommend it. Nor can they not recommend it. Only offer it if we want it. Here's some more links. I think the main problem is that the vaccine is too new to have statistics. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hpv-vacc...ens-paralysis/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hpv-vacc...ens-paralysis/ |
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On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:24:46 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"barbie gee" > wrote in message ghcrg.pbz... >> >> >> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: >> >>> >>> "Janet B" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Tue, 31 May 2016 09:19:08 -0600, graham > wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 31/05/2016 4:45 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "graham" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> On 30/05/2016 4:09 PM, Roy wrote: >>>>>>>> On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 2:25:00 PM UTC-6, graham wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2016 1:30 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "l not -l" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 29-May-2016, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 29, 2016 at 1:18:55 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Mom was alive she kept seeing ads for probiotics. She >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "What's that?" Beats me, but be assured they're trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sell >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yogurt. ![]() >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Probiotics have more good bacteria than just plain >>>>>>>>>>>>> yogurt. I learned they can REALLY help with severe >>>>>>>>>>>>> gut issues that for some unfathomable reason I was >>>>>>>>>>>>> plagued with 2 years ago two or three times. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> take a probiotic capsule daily and that misery seems >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a thing of the past. Don't know what brought it >>>>>>>>>>>>> on either. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We now know that one reason for the appendix is that it's a >>>>>>>>>>>> natural >>>>>>>>>>>> source >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> of probiotics. People who have had theirs removed, need to >>>>>>>>>>>> supplement. >>>>>>>>>>> How do we know this, an article in Prevention, or similar, >>>>>>>>>>> magazine or >>>>>>>>>>> peer-reviewed, published research? It seems odd that if this is >>>>>>>>>>> true >>>>>>>>>>> medical knowledge, that no doctor has suggested probiotics to me >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> the 66 >>>>>>>>>>> years I have been without an appendix (removed as a young child). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My naturopath first told me this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Naturopaths are quacks. If you believe him, you'll believe >>>>>>>>> anything! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +++ on the quacks...one of my daughters believes what they say about >>>>>>>> vaccinations and refuses to get her son immunized against any of the >>>>>>>> nasty diseases. She will not listen to reason...must have inherited >>>>>>>> that from her mother. Too bad, because immunization has been proven >>>>>>>> to be effective for eons. >>>>>>>> ==== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> How awful for you! >>>>>>> I'm fortunate in that regard as both sets of my grandchildren have >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> the appropriate jabs - including my grandson having the HPV jab. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hadn't heard of that. I had to look it up! >>>>>> >>>>> They gave it to girls at first then they realised that boys can become >>>>> carriers too. >>>>> Graham >>>> >>>> the overall problem is that if it isn't received at an early enough >>>> age, it is too late. Because either the girl will become sexually >>>> active and exposed or if 'pure', chances are her husband will have >>>> been exposed. I would really be angry at my mother if she left me >>>> open to cancer when there was a good way to avoid it. >>>> Janet US >>> >>> The vaccine can cause paralysis. Not a chance I'm willing to take. >> >> citation, and frequency of this adverse affect per total number of those >> vaccinated, please. > >I don't have those statistics. I did put up links. The Drs. we see say that >they can only offer the vaccine. It is up to us to do research. They can not >recommend it. Nor can they not recommend it. Only offer it if we want it. >Here's some more links. I think the main problem is that the vaccine is too >new to have statistics. > >http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hpv-vacc...ens-paralysis/ > >http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hpv-vacc...ens-paralysis/ You posted these links previously and twice again. Read more than the media headlines. The story behind the "catch your attention" headlines is that over 8 million women have had the shots. Doctors say that there is no evidence that the people in question wouldn't have had the paralysis from other causes; they can find no link. You should read this stuff before you make conclusions and post. Janet US |
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![]() "Janet B" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:24:46 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >>"barbie gee" > wrote in message >>news:alpine.DEB.2.02.1606011034570.26985@sghcrg. sghcrg.pbz... >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Janet B" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2016 09:19:08 -0600, graham > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 31/05/2016 4:45 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "graham" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> On 30/05/2016 4:09 PM, Roy wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 2:25:00 PM UTC-6, graham wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2016 1:30 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "l not -l" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 29-May-2016, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 29, 2016 at 1:18:55 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Mom was alive she kept seeing ads for probiotics. She >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "What's that?" Beats me, but be assured they're trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yogurt. ![]() >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probiotics have more good bacteria than just plain >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yogurt. I learned they can REALLY help with severe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gut issues that for some unfathomable reason I was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagued with 2 years ago two or three times. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> take a probiotic capsule daily and that misery seems >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a thing of the past. Don't know what brought it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on either. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We now know that one reason for the appendix is that it's a >>>>>>>>>>>>> natural >>>>>>>>>>>>> source >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of probiotics. People who have had theirs removed, need to >>>>>>>>>>>>> supplement. >>>>>>>>>>>> How do we know this, an article in Prevention, or similar, >>>>>>>>>>>> magazine or >>>>>>>>>>>> peer-reviewed, published research? It seems odd that if this >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> true >>>>>>>>>>>> medical knowledge, that no doctor has suggested probiotics to >>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> the 66 >>>>>>>>>>>> years I have been without an appendix (removed as a young >>>>>>>>>>>> child). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My naturopath first told me this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Naturopaths are quacks. If you believe him, you'll believe >>>>>>>>>> anything! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +++ on the quacks...one of my daughters believes what they say >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> vaccinations and refuses to get her son immunized against any of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> nasty diseases. She will not listen to reason...must have >>>>>>>>> inherited >>>>>>>>> that from her mother. Too bad, because immunization has been >>>>>>>>> proven >>>>>>>>> to be effective for eons. >>>>>>>>> ==== >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How awful for you! >>>>>>>> I'm fortunate in that regard as both sets of my grandchildren have >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> the appropriate jabs - including my grandson having the HPV jab. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hadn't heard of that. I had to look it up! >>>>>>> >>>>>> They gave it to girls at first then they realised that boys can >>>>>> become >>>>>> carriers too. >>>>>> Graham >>>>> >>>>> the overall problem is that if it isn't received at an early enough >>>>> age, it is too late. Because either the girl will become sexually >>>>> active and exposed or if 'pure', chances are her husband will have >>>>> been exposed. I would really be angry at my mother if she left me >>>>> open to cancer when there was a good way to avoid it. >>>>> Janet US >>>> >>>> The vaccine can cause paralysis. Not a chance I'm willing to take. >>> >>> citation, and frequency of this adverse affect per total number of those >>> vaccinated, please. >> >>I don't have those statistics. I did put up links. The Drs. we see say >>that >>they can only offer the vaccine. It is up to us to do research. They can >>not >>recommend it. Nor can they not recommend it. Only offer it if we want it. >>Here's some more links. I think the main problem is that the vaccine is >>too >>new to have statistics. >> >>http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hpv-vacc...ens-paralysis/ >> >>http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hpv-vacc...ens-paralysis/ > > You posted these links previously and twice again. Read more than the > media headlines. The story behind the "catch your attention" > headlines is that over 8 million women have had the shots. Doctors > say that there is no evidence that the people in question wouldn't > have had the paralysis from other causes; they can find no link. You > should read this stuff before you make conclusions and post. > Janet US We're done, Janet. You and I are clearly on different planes despite our age difference. |
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On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:37:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Janet B" > wrote in message .. . >> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:24:46 -0700, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>> >>>"barbie gee" > wrote in message >>>news:alpine.DEB.2.02.1606011034570.26985@sghcrg .sghcrg.pbz... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Janet B" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2016 09:19:08 -0600, graham > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 31/05/2016 4:45 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "graham" > wrote in message >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2016 4:09 PM, Roy wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 2:25:00 PM UTC-6, graham wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/2016 1:30 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "l not -l" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29-May-2016, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 29, 2016 at 1:18:55 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When Mom was alive she kept seeing ads for probiotics. She >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "What's that?" Beats me, but be assured they're trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yogurt. ![]() >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probiotics have more good bacteria than just plain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yogurt. I learned they can REALLY help with severe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gut issues that for some unfathomable reason I was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plagued with 2 years ago two or three times. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take a probiotic capsule daily and that misery seems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a thing of the past. Don't know what brought it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We now know that one reason for the appendix is that it's a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> natural >>>>>>>>>>>>>> source >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of probiotics. People who have had theirs removed, need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplement. >>>>>>>>>>>>> How do we know this, an article in Prevention, or similar, >>>>>>>>>>>>> magazine or >>>>>>>>>>>>> peer-reviewed, published research? It seems odd that if this >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> true >>>>>>>>>>>>> medical knowledge, that no doctor has suggested probiotics to >>>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the 66 >>>>>>>>>>>>> years I have been without an appendix (removed as a young >>>>>>>>>>>>> child). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My naturopath first told me this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Naturopaths are quacks. If you believe him, you'll believe >>>>>>>>>>> anything! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +++ on the quacks...one of my daughters believes what they say >>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>> vaccinations and refuses to get her son immunized against any of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> nasty diseases. She will not listen to reason...must have >>>>>>>>>> inherited >>>>>>>>>> that from her mother. Too bad, because immunization has been >>>>>>>>>> proven >>>>>>>>>> to be effective for eons. >>>>>>>>>> ==== >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How awful for you! >>>>>>>>> I'm fortunate in that regard as both sets of my grandchildren have >>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>> the appropriate jabs - including my grandson having the HPV jab. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hadn't heard of that. I had to look it up! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> They gave it to girls at first then they realised that boys can >>>>>>> become >>>>>>> carriers too. >>>>>>> Graham >>>>>> >>>>>> the overall problem is that if it isn't received at an early enough >>>>>> age, it is too late. Because either the girl will become sexually >>>>>> active and exposed or if 'pure', chances are her husband will have >>>>>> been exposed. I would really be angry at my mother if she left me >>>>>> open to cancer when there was a good way to avoid it. >>>>>> Janet US >>>>> >>>>> The vaccine can cause paralysis. Not a chance I'm willing to take. >>>> >>>> citation, and frequency of this adverse affect per total number of those >>>> vaccinated, please. >>> >>>I don't have those statistics. I did put up links. The Drs. we see say >>>that >>>they can only offer the vaccine. It is up to us to do research. They can >>>not >>>recommend it. Nor can they not recommend it. Only offer it if we want it. >>>Here's some more links. I think the main problem is that the vaccine is >>>too >>>new to have statistics. >>> >>>http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hpv-vacc...ens-paralysis/ >>> >>>http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hpv-vacc...ens-paralysis/ >> >> You posted these links previously and twice again. Read more than the >> media headlines. The story behind the "catch your attention" >> headlines is that over 8 million women have had the shots. Doctors >> say that there is no evidence that the people in question wouldn't >> have had the paralysis from other causes; they can find no link. You >> should read this stuff before you make conclusions and post. >> Janet US > >We're done, Janet. You and I are clearly on different planes despite our age >difference. I won't argue that. Janet US |
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