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I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.

Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
question: What is the best diameter?

I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?

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On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:03:01 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
> scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
> classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>
> Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
> outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
> question: What is the best diameter?
>
> I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
> long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?
>
> nb


You will probably find dowels are not strong enough and will bend or break when being used.

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On 2015-11-24, Janet > wrote:

> Why fuss with dowels? Just use a little smooth glass bottle for
> rolling.


Turns out there is a reason fer using a small diameter rolling pin.

<http://www.asiandumplingtips.com/2009/05/how-to-roll-asian-dumpling-wrappers-video.html>

Note the part about "the belly". I hadn't noticed that, before.
Also, Andrea speaks about using the palm of the hand instead of
leaving it to yer fingers, which do not exert enough pressure.

Besides, where does one find a 3/4"-1-1/4" diameter bottle?

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On 24/11/2015 8:02 AM, notbob wrote:
> I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
> scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
> classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>
> Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
> outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
> question: What is the best diameter?
>
> I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
> long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?
>
> nb
>
>

In the video (down thread) she says 3/4"
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> Besides, where does one find a 3/4"-1-1/4" diameter bottle?


Ice wine?

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On 11/24/2015 11:06 AM, graham wrote:
>> She cheered Boner on until we arrived at this.


"And I still do"

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On 11/24/2015 10:33 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
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>> Besides, where does one find a 3/4"-1-1/4" diameter bottle?

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> Ice wine?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/pqgws3n
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>> She cheered Boner on until we arrived at this.


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On 24 Nov 2015 15:02:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
>scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
>classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>
>Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
>outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
>question: What is the best diameter?
>
>I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
>long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?
>
>nb
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> On 24 Nov 2015 15:02:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
>> scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
>> classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>>
>> Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
>> outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
>> question: What is the best diameter?
>>
>> I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
>> long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?
>>
>> nb
>>

>
>> She cheered Boner on until we arrived at this.


And I still do
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 07:17:22 -0800 (PST), Helpful person
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 10:03:01 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>> I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
>> scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
>> classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>>
>> Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
>> outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
>> question: What is the best diameter?
>>
>> I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
>> long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?
>>
>> nb

>
>You will probably find dowels are not strong enough and will bend or break when being used.
>"> You are reaping what you sowed by feeding known trolls, dearie"


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"notbob" > wrote in message
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> I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
> scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
> classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>
> Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
> outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
> question: What is the best diameter?
>
> I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
> long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?



I have been making potstickers for many years. The challenge is the dough.
If you want to do classic pleats that will be your biggest challenge. So I
would suggest rolling the dough out flat and using a cutting tool rather
than a rolling pin. Trust me, the rolling pin takes a lot of practice to
use. Your first time should be enjoyable so take it one step at a time.
Also, make them on the large size at first until you master the technique.



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On 2015-11-24, Janet > wrote:

> I've got one olives came in, but you could use a single-serve mini
> white wine bottle. (I collect small bottles to make vanilla essence in)


I bought a 36" X 3/4" oak dowel fer about $9. I figure I can get
three 10" dowels and one 6" dowel fer under $3 ea. Three quarter inch
diameter is pretty good. I looked at 1" and 1-1/4" and they looked
waaaay too big. These small dowels are also good fer rolling flour
tortillas, which my ex SIL taught me to make.

I also snagged a bottle of Eden organic Shoyu sauce. It's allegedly
brewed by traditional Japanese methods. Dang sure tastes good!

<http://www.amazon.com/Eden-Foods-Organic-Imported-Shoyu/dp/B0019JKTOI>

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On 24 Nov 2015 15:02:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
> scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
> classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>
> Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
> outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
> question: What is the best diameter?
>
> I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
> long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?
>

<running to the kitchen> The one I have seems bigger than what you're
thinking about. I've seen them on youtube and they seem to be 6-8
inches and an inch in diameter. Mine is bigger than that.

When I learned to make pot stickers, no rolling pin was involved. We
just used our fingers to press the dough into a circle (in the air,
not on the counter) and it came out very even. I didn't find that
method the one time I tried finding it on YT.

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Helpful person wrote:
>notbob wrote:
>> I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
>> scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
>> classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>>
>> Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
>> outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
>> question: What is the best diameter?
>>
>> I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
>> long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?
>>
>> nb

>
>You will probably find dowels are not strong enough and will bend or break when being used.


Hardwood dowels are plenty strong, they are sold in 36" lengths but no
rolling pin is more than half that length so there'd be no flex
whatsoever, only problem is a 36" X 1 1/4 hardwood dowel will cost
more than a rolling pin.... it's really silly to think about making
ones own wooden rolling pin to save money... quality hardwood rolling
pins are rather inexpensive:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...%2Caps%2C6 77
Plain hardwood dowels cost more, and you still need to make it into a
rolling pin.. without access to a wood lathe you'd probably waste the
first ones:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=sr_1_5&sr=8-5
I'd definitely go for a ready made rolling pin, and they last forever,
I have a couple from my grandmother, that my mother used, they have to
have been used for over 100 years... I bet originally they cost less
than two bits each. With how little ready made rolling pins cost I'd
never consider making one, not unless I was still at work with access
to one of the finast experimental machine shops on the planet, with
all the rare hardwood doweling I could possibly dream about and for
free, even rare rain forest woods from their cabinet shop, and being
paid my hourly rate for what's known as a "government job", and I
could think of lots of better ways to spend my time than making
sawdust. Anyone think I couldn't fabricate a friggin' rolling pin
here, but why bother when I could buy one for under ten bucks:
https://www.bnl.gov/cfs/services.php
https://www.bnl.gov/cfs/heavymachine.php
This facilty is located on more than 5,000 acres.
Working there as a toolmaker for over 25 years I had clearence to
access every facility, it's huge and much is classified Top Secret,
it's where the Manhattan Project was instituted:
https://www.bnl.gov/maps/linkable_fi...ral_campus.pdf
I worked intimately with many of the planet's top physicists, there
were many scientists and designers but ultimately it was the
toolmakers who made the final decision for fabrication, there's a huge
abyss between theory and actual fabrication... the theorists could
barely tie their shoelaces, only the toolmakers know how to build
stuff. No society can exist without toolmakers, so unless the US
brings back the apprenticeship program for toolmakers the US has maybe
10, 15 years to exist because us toolmakers will all be dead... we
toolmakers don't readily share our knowlege and it's not available in
any book, because it's mostly an artform like cooking, we are born
with this innate ability, it cannot be learned from any book. Just
like the alta kraut toolmakers I covered my work... nien schtealin'
mit da eigen. Before I give up what I know about making stuff free
for nothing I'll take it to my grave... and I ain't tawkin' toasters,
I'm tawkin high energy physics machines, I really know how. The only
one I trust right now is Trump, I know he's a loud mouth but he knows
how to get stuff built, he respects toolmakers and that's all I need
to know.
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 12:26:57 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

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> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
> > scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
> > classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
> >
> > Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
> > outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
> > question: What is the best diameter?
> >
> > I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
> > long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?

>
>
> I have been making potstickers for many years. The challenge is the dough.
> If you want to do classic pleats that will be your biggest challenge. So I
> would suggest rolling the dough out flat and using a cutting tool rather
> than a rolling pin. Trust me, the rolling pin takes a lot of practice to
> use. Your first time should be enjoyable so take it one step at a time.
> Also, make them on the large size at first until you master the technique.
>
>

What is your dough recipe? I lost my recipe and directions (method) a
long time ago - but as I recall, it was just flour and boiling water.

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On 11/24/2015 6:56 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Hardwood dowels are plenty strong, they are sold in 36" lengths but no
> rolling pin is more than half that length


Really? The rolling pin I use most often, a long French-style one,
measures 20". Half of 36" inches is 18", so...

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>
>> Hardwood dowels are plenty strong, they are sold in 36" lengths but no
>> rolling pin is more than half that length

>
> Really? The rolling pin I use most often, a long French-style one,
> measures 20". Half of 36" inches is 18", so...


I have some really small ones ie 6", 8", 10" that D made me when we were
travelling in the caravan and space was very limited. They don't get used
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On 11/25/2015 5:25 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "S Viemeister" > wrote
>> On 11/24/2015 6:56 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Hardwood dowels are plenty strong, they are sold in 36" lengths but no
>>> rolling pin is more than half that length

>>
>> Really? The rolling pin I use most often, a long French-style one,
>> measures 20". Half of 36" inches is 18", so...

>
> I have some really small ones ie 6", 8", 10" that D made me when we were
> travelling in the caravan and space was very limited. They don't get
> used since he extended the kitchen but I was very grateful for them at
> the time.
>

I have a very small one I use when making ravioli on a form/mold.

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> want us to tell you how to replace it.
>
> -sw



Everyone has you on ignore, fatty.


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> Tabasco(tm) 2.5oz bottles are 1.25".



You're on ignore here, dwarfy.

Go drug yourself up again.
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> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 12:26:57 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
>> > scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
>> > classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>> >
>> > Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
>> > outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
>> > question: What is the best diameter?
>> >
>> > I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
>> > long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?

>>
>>
>> I have been making potstickers for many years. The challenge is the
>> dough.
>> If you want to do classic pleats that will be your biggest challenge. So
>> I
>> would suggest rolling the dough out flat and using a cutting tool rather
>> than a rolling pin. Trust me, the rolling pin takes a lot of practice to
>> use. Your first time should be enjoyable so take it one step at a time.
>> Also, make them on the large size at first until you master the
>> technique.
>>
>>

> What is your dough recipe? I lost my recipe and directions (method) a
> long time ago - but as I recall, it was just flour and boiling water.



That's all there is to the dough, the boiling water is key. You can add a
little salt but that is not necessary as you do not want the dough to
conflict with the filling which is heavily seasoned. So you kind of want to
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 08:38:18 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" >
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> "sf" > wrote in message
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> >>

> > What is your dough recipe? I lost my recipe and directions (method) a
> > long time ago - but as I recall, it was just flour and boiling water.

>
>
> That's all there is to the dough, the boiling water is key. You can add a
> little salt but that is not necessary as you do not want the dough to
> conflict with the filling which is heavily seasoned. So you kind of want to
> dough a bit bland, it works.
>
>

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On 11/24/2015 1:26 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
>> scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
>> classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>>
>> Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
>> outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
>> question: What is the best diameter?
>>
>> I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
>> long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?

>
>
> I have been making potstickers for many years. The challenge is the dough.
> If you want to do classic pleats that will be your biggest challenge. So I
> would suggest rolling the dough out flat and using a cutting tool rather
> than a rolling pin. Trust me, the rolling pin takes a lot of practice to
> use. Your first time should be enjoyable so take it one step at a time.
> Also, make them on the large size at first until you master the technique.
>
>

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On 11/24/2015 5:26 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 11/24/2015 6:56 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Hardwood dowels are plenty strong, they are sold in 36" lengths but no
>> rolling pin is more than half that length

>
> Really? The rolling pin I use most often, a long French-style one,
> measures 20". Half of 36" inches is 18", so...
>

"My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me."

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On 11/24/2015 1:38 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-11-24, Janet > wrote:
>
>> I've got one olives came in, but you could use a single-serve mini
>> white wine bottle. (I collect small bottles to make vanilla essence in)

>
> I bought a 36" X 3/4" oak dowel fer about $9. I figure I can get
> three 10" dowels and one 6" dowel fer under $3 ea. Three quarter inch
> diameter is pretty good. I looked at 1" and 1-1/4" and they looked
> waaaay too big. These small dowels are also good fer rolling flour
> tortillas, which my ex SIL taught me to make.
>
> I also snagged a bottle of Eden organic Shoyu sauce. It's allegedly
> brewed by traditional Japanese methods. Dang sure tastes good!
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/Eden-Foods-Organic-Imported-Shoyu/dp/B0019JKTOI>
>
> nb
>

"My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me."

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On 11/24/2015 4:01 PM, sf wrote:
> On 24 Nov 2015 15:02:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
>> scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
>> classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>>
>> Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
>> outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
>> question: What is the best diameter?
>>
>> I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
>> long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?
>>

> <running to the kitchen> The one I have seems bigger than what you're
> thinking about. I've seen them on youtube and they seem to be 6-8
> inches and an inch in diameter. Mine is bigger than that.
>
> When I learned to make pot stickers, no rolling pin was involved. We
> just used our fingers to press the dough into a circle (in the air,
> not on the counter) and it came out very even. I didn't find that
> method the one time I tried finding it on YT.
>

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Default Asian roll ing pin (potstickers)

On 11/24/2015 4:56 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Helpful person wrote:
>> notbob wrote:
>>> I'm jonesing fer some potstickers and plan to make my own from
>>> scratch. This includes the dough, which I plan to roll out the
>>> classic way, with a small Asian rolling pin.
>>>
>>> Since I don't wanna spend $10-20 ona stick, I'm gonna make my own pin
>>> outta some hardwood dowls from the hardware store. Here's my
>>> question: What is the best diameter?
>>>
>>> I've seen everything from 3/4" to 1-1/4" dia, usually about 10"-12"
>>> long. Anyone have a recommendations on diameter?
>>>
>>> nb

>>
>> You will probably find dowels are not strong enough and will bend or break when being used.

>
> Hardwood dowels are plenty strong, they are sold in 36" lengths but no
> rolling pin is more than half that length so there'd be no flex
> whatsoever, only problem is a 36" X 1 1/4 hardwood dowel will cost
> more than a rolling pin.... it's really silly to think about making
> ones own wooden rolling pin to save money... quality hardwood rolling
> pins are rather inexpensive:
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...%2Caps%2C6 77
> Plain hardwood dowels cost more, and you still need to make it into a
> rolling pin.. without access to a wood lathe you'd probably waste the
> first ones:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=sr_1_5&sr=8-5
> I'd definitely go for a ready made rolling pin, and they last forever,
> I have a couple from my grandmother, that my mother used, they have to
> have been used for over 100 years... I bet originally they cost less
> than two bits each. With how little ready made rolling pins cost I'd
> never consider making one, not unless I was still at work with access
> to one of the finast experimental machine shops on the planet, with
> all the rare hardwood doweling I could possibly dream about and for
> free, even rare rain forest woods from their cabinet shop, and being
> paid my hourly rate for what's known as a "government job", and I
> could think of lots of better ways to spend my time than making
> sawdust. Anyone think I couldn't fabricate a friggin' rolling pin
> here, but why bother when I could buy one for under ten bucks:
> https://www.bnl.gov/cfs/services.php
> https://www.bnl.gov/cfs/heavymachine.php
> This facilty is located on more than 5,000 acres.
> Working there as a toolmaker for over 25 years I had clearence to
> access every facility, it's huge and much is classified Top Secret,
> it's where the Manhattan Project was instituted:
> https://www.bnl.gov/maps/linkable_fi...ral_campus.pdf
> I worked intimately with many of the planet's top physicists, there
> were many scientists and designers but ultimately it was the
> toolmakers who made the final decision for fabrication, there's a huge
> abyss between theory and actual fabrication... the theorists could
> barely tie their shoelaces, only the toolmakers know how to build
> stuff. No society can exist without toolmakers, so unless the US
> brings back the apprenticeship program for toolmakers the US has maybe
> 10, 15 years to exist because us toolmakers will all be dead... we
> toolmakers don't readily share our knowlege and it's not available in
> any book, because it's mostly an artform like cooking, we are born
> with this innate ability, it cannot be learned from any book. Just
> like the alta kraut toolmakers I covered my work... nien schtealin'
> mit da eigen. Before I give up what I know about making stuff free
> for nothing I'll take it to my grave... and I ain't tawkin' toasters,
> I'm tawkin high energy physics machines, I really know how. The only
> one I trust right now is Trump, I know he's a loud mouth but he knows
> how to get stuff built, he respects toolmakers and that's all I need
> to know.
>

"My mental health professional has directed me to apologize to this
group at large and to Marty and Steven in specific for acting out
here. A change in my medications is being made to address a disorder I
have been experiencing this summer. I will be monitored, but I am no
longer allowed to engage in certain activities I previously have
enjoyed as they exacerbate my condition. I apologize for being
disruptive, in a better state of mind this was generally not an issue
for me."

Casa Boner, Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:37:53 -0600
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