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Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
change the mix.
Newspaper flyers: all about effing xmas preparations.
I know some store had xmas goods on display in October but now it's in
yer face everywhere.
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> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
> change the mix.
> Newspaper flyers: all about effing xmas preparations.
> I know some store had xmas goods on display in October but now it's in
> yer face everywhere.
> Graham


In Walmart last Saturday they had a big Xmas tree at the entrance - and I
assume many for sale but didn't look in that area.


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>> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
>> change the mix.
>> Newspaper flyers: all about effing xmas preparations.
>> I know some store had xmas goods on display in October but now it's in
>> yer face everywhere.
>> Graham

>
> In Walmart last Saturday they had a big Xmas tree at the entrance - and I
> assume many for sale but didn't look in that area.


They've had a Christmas tree up at Kohl's since October, I would expect that
the stores have Christmas stuff up in November though.

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>> grahamgrinch wrote:
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>>> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
>>> change the mix.
>>> Newspaper flyers: all about effing xmas preparations.
>>> I know some store had xmas goods on display in October but now it's in
>>> yer face everywhere.
>>> Graham


effing Grinch!

>> In Walmart last Saturday they had a big Xmas tree at the entrance - and I
>> assume many for sale but didn't look in that area.

>
>They've had a Christmas tree up at Kohl's since October, I would expect that
>the stores have Christmas stuff up in November though.


I have my own Christmas trees growing, I have literally thousands, the
last owner at one time (60 years ago) planted lots for sale but then
the market kind of crashed or so I was told so they turned into a
mixed conifer forest, with lots of seedlings sprouting everywhere... I
have Norway spruce 70', 80', 90' tall, many would dwarf the one in
Rockefella Center this year... they are welcome to choose. I planted
several "Fat Alberts" (the ultimate Colorado blue spruce). I have one
in front I used to decorate with lights but is now much too tall for
me to reach even halfway up. This little guy is now about 20' tall:
http://i68.tinypic.com/le8b8.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/2nw1yio.jpg
http://www.iselinursery.com/index.ph...fers&Itemid=99

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On 11/12/2015 4:35 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> I have my own Christmas trees growing, I have literally thousands, the
> last owner at one time (60 years ago) planted lots for sale but then
> the market kind of crashed or so I was told so they turned into a
> mixed conifer forest, with lots of seedlings sprouting everywhere... I
> have Norway spruce 70', 80', 90' tall, many would dwarf the one in
> Rockefella Center this year... they are welcome to choose. I planted
> several "Fat Alberts" (the ultimate Colorado blue spruce). I have one
> in front I used to decorate with lights but is now much too tall for
> me to reach even halfway up. This little guy is now about 20' tall:
> http://i68.tinypic.com/le8b8.jpg


How well do they bounce back from being under heavy snow? I used to have
some sort of evergreen shrubs that were up to about 10' or more high but
they didn't do well during the winter and the last winter I had them
they never really regained their shape so I had them taken out. Plus
they were a favorite haunt of the local yellowjackets so I don't really
miss them.

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>On 11/12/2015 4:35 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
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>> I have my own Christmas trees growing, I have literally thousands, the
>> last owner at one time (60 years ago) planted lots for sale but then
>> the market kind of crashed or so I was told so they turned into a
>> mixed conifer forest, with lots of seedlings sprouting everywhere... I
>> have Norway spruce 70', 80', 90' tall, many would dwarf the one in
>> Rockefella Center this year... they are welcome to choose. I planted
>> several "Fat Alberts" (the ultimate Colorado blue spruce). I have one
>> in front I used to decorate with lights but is now much too tall for
>> me to reach even halfway up. This little guy is now about 20' tall:
>> http://i68.tinypic.com/le8b8.jpg

>
>How well do they bounce back from being under heavy snow? I used to have
>some sort of evergreen shrubs that were up to about 10' or more high but
>they didn't do well during the winter and the last winter I had them
>they never really regained their shape so I had them taken out. Plus
>they were a favorite haunt of the local yellowjackets so I don't really
>miss them.


Conifers do extremely well here, snow/cold doesn't bother them. I'm
in a snow belt, snow falls in feet, and temperatures at night
typically drop to -40F during winter. I don't know where you are but
here in the northern Catskills spruce trees of all kinds do very well.
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Cheryl > wrote:

> How well do they bounce back from being under heavy snow? I used to have
> some sort of evergreen shrubs that were up to about 10' or more high but
> they didn't do well during the winter and the last winter I had them
> they never really regained their shape so I had them taken out. Plus
> they were a favorite haunt of the local yellowjackets so I don't really
> miss them.


Arborvitae? My big one peels back like a blooming onion after a heavy
snow, and yellow jackets love it.

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 11:08:08 -0700, graham > wrote:

> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
> change the mix.
> Newspaper flyers: all about effing xmas preparations.
> I know some store had xmas goods on display in October but now it's in
> yer face everywhere.
> Graham


It's mid-November. Last week was fairly Christmas free at a nearby
mall, no blatant xmas decorations anywhere but I imagine their tree is
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On 2015-11-12 1:08 PM, graham wrote:
> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
> change the mix.
> Newspaper flyers: all about effing xmas preparations.
> I know some store had xmas goods on display in October but now it's in
> yer face everywhere.
>


I guess they honoured the request to lay off the Christmas stuff until
after Remembrance Day. Having heard and read so many comments about
Christmas marketing pre-empting honouring our war dead, and having
attended two Remembrance Day ceremonies this week, I am left wondering
what happened to all the complainers. Attendance was pretty low.

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On 2015-11-12 18:08:08 +0000, graham said:

> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
> change the mix.


o my god

Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look)
and said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas
with the emphasis on the X.

I can't believe I'm going to have to get try to get them on a leash 6-7
weeks. A good time to work on my cooking skills.




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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:02:41 -0800, gtr > wrote:

>On 2015-11-12 18:08:08 +0000, graham said:
>
>> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
>> change the mix.

>
>o my god
>
>Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
>KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
>because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
>didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
>dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look)
>and said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas
>with the emphasis on the X.
>
>I can't believe I'm going to have to get try to get them on a leash 6-7
>weeks. A good time to work on my cooking skills.
>

You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
music) without even thinking of it
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> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:02:41 -0800, gtr > wrote:
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>>On 2015-11-12 18:08:08 +0000, graham said:
>>
>>> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
>>> change the mix.

>>
>>o my god
>>
>>Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
>>KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
>>because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
>>didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
>>dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look)
>>and said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas
>>with the emphasis on the X.
>>
>>I can't believe I'm going to have to get try to get them on a leash 6-7
>>weeks. A good time to work on my cooking skills.
>>

> You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
> my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
> music) without even thinking of it


Me too, I only hear the music I want to hear.

Cheri

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On 2015-11-13 01:40:03 +0000, Cheri said:

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>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:02:41 -0800, gtr > wrote:
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>>> On 2015-11-12 18:08:08 +0000, graham said:
>>>
>>>> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
>>>> change the mix.
>>>
>>> o my god
>>>
>>> Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
>>> KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
>>> because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
>>> didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
>>> dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look)
>>> and said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas
>>> with the emphasis on the X.
>>>
>>> I can't believe I'm going to have to get try to get them on a leash 6-7
>>> weeks. A good time to work on my cooking skills.
>>>

>> You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
>> my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
>> music) without even thinking of it

>
> Me too, I only hear the music I want to hear.


I've been a musician all my life and I wish I could do that. Can't be done.

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>
>> > wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:02:41 -0800, gtr > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-11-12 18:08:08 +0000, graham said:
>>>>
>>>>> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
>>>>> change the mix.
>>>>
>>>> o my god
>>>>
>>>> Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
>>>> KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
>>>> because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
>>>> didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
>>>> dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look)
>>>> and said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas
>>>> with the emphasis on the X.
>>>>
>>>> I can't believe I'm going to have to get try to get them on a leash 6-7
>>>> weeks. A good time to work on my cooking skills.
>>>>
>>> You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
>>> my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
>>> music) without even thinking of it

>>
>> Me too, I only hear the music I want to hear.

>
> I've been a musician all my life and I wish I could do that. Can't be done.
>

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>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:02:41 -0800, gtr > wrote:
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>>>On 2015-11-12 18:08:08 +0000, graham said:
>>>
>>>> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager

to
>>>> change the mix.
>>>
>>>o my god
>>>
>>>Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
>>>KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
>>>because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
>>>didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
>>>dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look)
>>>and said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas
>>>with the emphasis on the X.
>>>
>>>I can't believe I'm going to have to get try to get them on a leash 6-

7
>>>weeks. A good time to work on my cooking skills.
>>>

>> You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
>> my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
>> music) without even thinking of it

>
> Me too, I only hear the music I want to hear.


I can't do that. I dread Christmas. I listen mostly to music on satellite
radio and around Xmas some of the music channels get changed from what
they usually played to all Xmas or Hannaka (sp?> music. The others are
often swamped with it. Hard to find decent regular music for many weeks.

>
> Cheri
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>> > wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:02:41 -0800, gtr > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-11-12 18:08:08 +0000, graham said:
>>>>
>>>>> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager

> to
>>>>> change the mix.
>>>>
>>>> o my god
>>>>
>>>> Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
>>>> KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
>>>> because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
>>>> didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
>>>> dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look)
>>>> and said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas
>>>> with the emphasis on the X.
>>>>
>>>> I can't believe I'm going to have to get try to get them on a leash 6-

> 7
>>>> weeks. A good time to work on my cooking skills.
>>>>
>>> You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
>>> my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
>>> music) without even thinking of it

>>
>> Me too, I only hear the music I want to hear.

>
> I can't do that. I dread Christmas. I listen mostly to music on satellite
> radio and around Xmas some of the music channels get changed from what
> they usually played to all Xmas or Hannaka (sp?> music. The others are
> often swamped with it. Hard to find decent regular music for many weeks.
>
>>
>> Cheri
>>

>
>
>

I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
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>> On 2015-11-13 00:06:19 +0000,
said:
>>
>>> You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
>>> my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
>>> music) without even thinking of it

>>
>> Sorry either it's either got or it ain't. And I ain't.
>>
>> I know just what you mean. I've mentioned many times how amazing it is
>> that a mother can tune out all this screaming and yelling and banging
>> and noise. But a quiet little "oh-oh" and she's out of the blocks like
>> a shot.

>
> It's true - at my grandmothers we'd all be messing around and she
> would nail one of us and say 'go and see what the others are doing,
> and tell them not to' - she was never wrong
>

I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.


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> You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
> my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
> music) without even thinking of it
>
>

Unfortunately too many of you mothers have Mothers Ear.
You don't think (or care) how annoying your little darlings
are in stores and restaurants.

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>> You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
>> my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
>> music) without even thinking of it
>>
>>

> Unfortunately too many of you mothers have Mothers Ear.
> You don't think (or care) how annoying your little darlings
> are in stores and restaurants.
>

I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.
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>On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 6:06:26 PM UTC-6, wrote:
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>> You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
>> my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
>> music) without even thinking of it
>>
>>

>Unfortunately too many of you mothers have Mothers Ear.
>You don't think (or care) how annoying your little darlings
>are in stores and restaurants.


You can take that and stick it ! My children, now in their 50s were
disciplined, I could take them anywhere and never received any looks
or complaints. Some compliments yes, that they were nicely behaved.
However that said, I didn't expect them to be silent at home, play
generates noise.
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> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:52:56 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
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> >On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 6:06:26 PM UTC-6, wrote:
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> >> You need to develop Mothers Ear. I still have it, left over from when
> >> my three were little, the ability to shut out the noise (aka Xmas
> >> music) without even thinking of it
> >>
> >>

> >Unfortunately too many of you mothers have Mothers Ear.
> >You don't think (or care) how annoying your little darlings
> >are in stores and restaurants.

>
> You can take that and stick it ! My children, now in their 50s were
> disciplined, I could take them anywhere and never received any looks
> or complaints. Some compliments yes, that they were nicely behaved.
> However that said, I didn't expect them to be silent at home, play
> generates noise.
>
>

Get your panties in a wad all you want but take a look
around next time you are out and about, especially restaurants.
The screaming/whining/crying kids are everywhere and then
take a look at the oblivious parents. Never discipline them,
never soothe them, never remove them from the area. Annoy
everyone around you.

And I don't think I said a word about YOUR children who are
no longer kids. Of course every parent has children who
are simply little angels and would NEVER be a nuisance.

Get real.

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> > Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
> > change the mix.

>
> o my god
>
> Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
> KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
> because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
> didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
> dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look)
> and said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas
> with the emphasis on the X.
>
> I can't believe I'm going to have to get try to get them on a leash 6-7
> weeks. A good time to work on my cooking skills.
>

I don't notice music unless it's too loud, so I'm having trouble
thinking of restaurants that play music other than the ones with
jukeboxes on the table. Mall music? That's a different story.

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> I don't notice music unless it's too loud, so I'm having trouble
> thinking of restaurants that play music other than the ones with
> jukeboxes on the table. Mall music? That's a different story.


We went on an eating foray in LA last week. We went to two upscale
restaurants and two upscale bars and marveled at the fact that they
were all playing music roughly from 1964-1968; pop, rock, soul, etc.
We realized that our age-range (65) had become the programming "sweet
spot" for upscale.

Go figure...

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> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:02:41 -0800, gtr > wrote:
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> > On 2015-11-12 18:08:08 +0000, graham said:
> >
> > > Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
> > > change the mix.

> >
> > o my god
> >
> > Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
> > KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
> > because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
> > didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
> > dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look)
> > and said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas
> > with the emphasis on the X.
> >
> > I can't believe I'm going to have to get try to get them on a leash 6-7
> > weeks. A good time to work on my cooking skills.
> >

> I don't notice music unless it's too loud, so I'm having trouble
> thinking of restaurants that play music other than the ones with
> jukeboxes on the table. Mall music? That's a different story.


My regular lunchtime spot:
<http://mediterrano.com/>
plays music. It used to be Rat Pack stuff; now it's more modern.
I think I heard some damned John Denver a few weeks ago, but I
usually read while I eat lunch, which shuts off my ears.

Soon they'll be playing Christmas music. However,
once people start flocking there for their office Christmas
lunches, I'll stop going until next year. Nothing puts me
off my lunch like sitting next to a table full of women wearing
perfume. If I can smell it from 6 feet away, they're
wearing entirely too much.

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> Nothing puts me
> off my lunch like sitting next to a table full of women wearing
> perfume. If I can smell it from 6 feet away, they're
> wearing entirely too much.


I'm fine with lots of perfume (bring it on), it's men's cheap cologne
that drives me up right the wall. I love candle shops too.

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> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 03:58:49 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> Nothing puts me
>> off my lunch like sitting next to a table full of women wearing
>> perfume. If I can smell it from 6 feet away, they're
>> wearing entirely too much.


Absolutely. Almost seems like you can taste it. Too much.

> I'm fine with lots of perfume (bring it on), it's men's cheap cologne
> that drives me up right the wall. I love candle shops too.


I don't know how it is he wasn't spoken to by his boss, but one
security guard at work wore so much cologne, it would almost
repel you from entering the building where I worked, all the way
from behind his desk. Yikes.

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> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 03:58:49 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> Nothing puts me
>> off my lunch like sitting next to a table full of women wearing
>> perfume. If I can smell it from 6 feet away, they're
>> wearing entirely too much.

>
> I'm fine with lots of perfume (bring it on), it's men's cheap cologne
> that drives me up right the wall. I love candle shops too.
>


I am with Cindy. I hate perfume. There is one particular department
store that we like but I prefer to use the entrance by their shoe
department or the one from the parking lot. The one from the main part
of the mall is at their perfume department and I have to hold my breath.

My wife made it clear to me that she would like some perfume for
Christmas. I ended up buying it for her but there was a proviso... that
she not wear it around me.
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> perfume. If I can smell it from 6 feet away, they're
> wearing entirely too much.
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> Cindy Hamilton



+100000!!!!
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> On 2015-11-12 18:08:08 +0000, graham said:
>
>> Starbucks this morning: effing xmas music! I persuaded the manager to
>> change the mix.

>
> o my god
>
> Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
> KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
> because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
> didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
> dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look) and
> said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas with
> the emphasis on the X.


That was shellfish of you. Some people love Kenny G! Hell, I'd be ****ed
if I was grooving to some music and it got cut off because some guy was
whining about it.

You should do what my friend's neighbor does. He can change the musical
playlist in restaurants in Hawaii and the Mainland on his iPad anywhere
in the world. It's a most remarkable thing! Of course he owns the
restaurants. Well, he used to own it but he may have sold them off.

>
> I can't believe I'm going to have to get try to get them on a leash 6-7
> weeks. A good time to work on my cooking skills.
>
>


A more practical solution is to not eat at restaurants that you find
objectionable.

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>> o my god
>>
>> Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
>> KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
>> because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
>> didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
>> dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look) and
>> said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas with
>> the emphasis on the X.

>
> That was shellfish of you. Some people love Kenny G! Hell, I'd be
> ****ed if I was grooving to some music and it got cut off because some
> guy was whining about it.


And you may actually NEED for it to be the only CD played for a month.
And that would make it shellfish of you.

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> On 2015-11-13 02:30:51 +0000, dsi1 said:
>
> >> o my god
> >>
> >> Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
> >> KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
> >> because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
> >> didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
> >> dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look) and
> >> said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas with
> >> the emphasis on the X.

> >
> > That was shellfish of you. Some people love Kenny G! Hell, I'd be
> > ****ed if I was grooving to some music and it got cut off because some
> > guy was whining about it.

>
> And you may actually NEED for it to be the only CD played for a month.
> And that would make it shellfish of you.


He only said that he'd enjoy it if that's what they're playing. I'd
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On 2015-11-14 00:36:01 +0000, sf said:

> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:07:47 -0800, gtr > wrote:
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>> On 2015-11-13 02:30:51 +0000, dsi1 said:
>>
>>>> o my god
>>>>
>>>> Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
>>>> KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
>>>> because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
>>>> didn't. Of the two who didn't, one apologized profusely. The other
>>>> dead-eyed me like a zombie (aka the "It Came From Outer Space" look) and
>>>> said impassively "No." We turned and left in silence. Merry Xmas with
>>>> the emphasis on the X.
>>>
>>> That was shellfish of you. Some people love Kenny G! Hell, I'd be
>>> ****ed if I was grooving to some music and it got cut off because some
>>> guy was whining about it.

>>
>> And you may actually NEED for it to be the only CD played for a month.
>> And that would make it shellfish of you.

>
> He only said that he'd enjoy it if that's what they're playing. I'd
> be happier with no music at all.


I have all kinds of potentially good music, but mostly I wanted to
eliminate noise, or endlessly repeated repertoires of almost any kind.

I can't imagine anything more repetitve than xmas music. Doing it with
bagpipes would make it worse, as would a beginning violinist. But the
nasal shlock of Kenny G is likely #3 on the list.

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> Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
> KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
> because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
> didn't.



So.... three times you walked into restaurants and they were playing
Kenny G Christmas? What a hell of a coincidence.


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> On 2015-11-12 19:02, gtr wrote:
>> On 2015-11-12 18:08:08 +0000, graham said:

>
>> Last year when I went into restaurants, if they were playing
>> KennyGChrismas I asked the seater if they could change the music,
>> because if they could not we would not be able to eat. One did, two
>> didn't.

>
> So.... three times you walked into restaurants and they were playing
> Kenny G Christmas? What a hell of a coincidence.


I'm not sure I follow your logic. It was no coincidence, they were
likely playing that album for a month or more without changing. It's
shit for music, but some people seem to like it. Like it or not, a
month is too long.

Similarly I know a number of restaurants that became infected with the
Gipsy Kings first US album in 1989. Some cycled that one album as
their restaurants "ambience" for over 10 years. Two years ago I went
into an Italian restaurant and they were playing it. I asked them to
change it to anything at all they said okay and never did.

No coincidences; these are *policies*.

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> No coincidences; these are *policies*.


IOW they are some sort of chain restaurant?

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>> No coincidences; these are *policies*.

>
> IOW they are some sort of chain restaurant?


No, but most restaurants have a music policy that doesn't involve
meddling by the maitre d'.



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