wrote:
> The pud definitely needs alcohol,


So does Marty!

On 11/11/2015 6:10 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 2015-11-11 12:41 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> I've made excellent fruit cake using only dried figs. I also really
>>> love a good date nut loaf. My mom used to bake them in saved coffee
>>> cans... cut bottom lid and push out, round slices with cream cheese,
>>> can't stop eating.
>>>
>>
>> We had lots of date nut loaf when I was a kid. It's probably 30-40
>> years since the last time I had any. I used to like it.
>
> Oh I loved those! Mom got them in a can and we'd open both ends, push
> it out and nibble slices with cream cheese.
>
>
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(Lucretia, you should look up "pud" in a dictionary before using it as an
abbreviation for pudding. LOL...just sayin'....)

As to alcohol in my plum pudding, it is a suet pudding, actually, steamed, and
has spices, raisins and apples. It is my Anglophile grandmother's recipe, and she
would have been horrified to consider something should have (gasp) alcohol in it.
So that is the way I like it...without. And I don't try to light it up, anyway.

N.

On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:11:43 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started making
> >> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to
> >> me,
> >> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' )
> >
> > In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with
> > doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than
> > fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde
> > style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family
> > that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I
> > don't make them anymore.
> >
> > One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a
> > slice of cheddar cheese.
>
> It is the only way I eat fruit cake.

It sounds delicious. With a cup of tea, of course.

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sf

sf wrote:
>
> It sounds delicious. With a cup of tea, of course.

apple pie is also very good with sharp cheddar. No tea required.

On 12/11/2015 10:00 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:11:43 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started making
>>>> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to
>>>> me,
>>>> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' )
>>>
>>> In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with
>>> doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than
>>> fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde
>>> style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family
>>> that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I
>>> don't make them anymore.
>>>
>>> One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a
>>> slice of cheddar cheese.
>>
>> It is the only way I eat fruit cake.
>
> It sounds delicious. With a cup of tea, of course.
>
or a glass of port, or perhaps sloe gin:-)
Graham

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On 11/12/2015 7:55 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On 11/11/2015 6:10 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On 2015-11-11 12:41 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've made excellent fruit cake using only dried figs. I also really
>>>> love a good date nut loaf. My mom used to bake them in saved coffee
>>>> cans... cut bottom lid and push out, round slices with cream cheese,
>>>> can't stop eating.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We had lots of date nut loaf when I was a kid. It's probably 30-40
>>> years since the last time I had any. I used to like it.
>>
>> Oh I loved those! Mom got them in a can and we'd open both ends, push
>> it out and nibble slices with cream cheese.
>>
>>
>>
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"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/11/2015 10:00 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:11:43 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started
>>>>> making
>>>>> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to
>>>>> me,
>>>>> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' )
>>>>
>>>> In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with
>>>> doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than
>>>> fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde
>>>> style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family
>>>> that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I
>>>> don't make them anymore.
>>>>
>>>> One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a
>>>> slice of cheddar cheese.
>>>
>>> It is the only way I eat fruit cake.
>>
>> It sounds delicious. With a cup of tea, of course.
>>
> or a glass of port, or perhaps sloe gin:-)
> Graham

Sloe gin is ghastly IMO. Worst hangover I ever had was from drinking sloe
gin and orange juice, caused a 3 day dull headache and to this day I can't
forget how nasty that was, though I think a small glass of port is good.

Cheri

On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 23:53:22 -0700, Janet B >
wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:27:58 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:50:04 -0700, Janet B >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Then I made stollen
> >> and wasn't sure about their reception. I no longer make stollen.
> >
> >Oh, I like stollen! Although fruitcake takes longer to make, I
> >thought it was fussier when I made it many moons ago. Maybe I'll have
> >a different attitude now what I'm comfortable with yeast dough.
>
> Although basically the same thing, there are several different ways to
> go about putting one together. You might want to check the Web to see
> which way you want to go. I like a stronger dough with a light
> texture/ I don't do a roll of marzipan in the length of the stollen.
> Janet US

I checked last night and saved several recipes (all slightly
different) that appealed to me and I'll make up my mind later. All I
know now is that I'm definitely going to use a carton of the mixed
candied fruits from the grocery store, because that's what I like. I
have no strong dislike for anything in the bunch, so the only thing
I'll do is macerate it with rum for a while.

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 12:08:09 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > It sounds delicious. With a cup of tea, of course.
>
> apple pie is also very good with sharp cheddar. No tea required.

I was brought up with that option (sharp English cheddar), but I don't
like cheddar with apple pie - even when it melts on a hot pie...
cheddar and slices of a crisp, tart, apple is fine - but not with
apple pie. Who knows? I may not like the cheddar/fruit cake combo
either, but I want to try it someday to find out.

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:39:41 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 12/11/2015 10:00 AM, sf wrote:
> >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:11:43 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "sf" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started
> >>>>> making
> >>>>> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said to
> >>>>> me,
> >>>>> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' )
> >>>>
> >>>> In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with
> >>>> doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than
> >>>> fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde
> >>>> style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family
> >>>> that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result, I
> >>>> don't make them anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>> One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with a
> >>>> slice of cheddar cheese.
> >>>
> >>> It is the only way I eat fruit cake.
> >>
> >> It sounds delicious. With a cup of tea, of course.
> >>
> > or a glass of port, or perhaps sloe gin:-)
> > Graham
>
> Sloe gin is ghastly IMO. Worst hangover I ever had was from drinking sloe
> gin and orange juice, caused a 3 day dull headache and to this day I can't
> forget how nasty that was, though I think a small glass of port is good.
>
I don't usually turn down the chance to drink alcohol, but IMO - a
nice dry champagne appeals more than port or sloe gin with fruit cake
and I'd rather have tea. Thanks.


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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 07:03:20 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>(Lucretia, you should look up "pud" in a dictionary before using it as an
>abbreviation for pudding. LOL...just sayin'....)

I assumed that in a food group the first thought would be pud =
pudding, oh well.
>
>As to alcohol in my plum pudding, it is a suet pudding, actually, steamed, and
>has spices, raisins and apples. It is my Anglophile grandmother's recipe, and she
>would have been horrified to consider something should have (gasp) alcohol in it.
>So that is the way I like it...without. And I don't try to light it up, anyway.
>
>N.

Lol bet she would have called it a pud though

In article >,
says...
>
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:17:37 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
> >I would use an orange or other fruit liqueur....but I don't like any
> >Alcohol in the plum pudding (not fruitcake) I make, and don't eat
> >fruitcake because it usually has tree nuts, which I am allergic to.
> >
> >N.
>
> The pud definitely needs alcohol, else how is it going to light
> properly for serving?

? We pour alcohol over the Xmas pudding immediately before lighting it.

Janet UK

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:39:41 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On 12/11/2015 10:00 AM, sf wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:11:43 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:13:40 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It always makes me smile when I read here that people have started
>> >>>>> making
>> >>>>> fruitcakes. Many years ago I was making mine, and an American said
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> me,
>> >>>>> 'Do you all make these and give them to each other?' )
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In general, Americans don't like fruitcake and equivocate them with
>> >>>> doorstops. I like to make my own, so I can have more cake than
>> >>>> fruit... because that's the way I like it and I prefer the blonde
>> >>>> style over brunette. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my family
>> >>>> that likes fruitcake so I'm left eating it on my own. As a result,
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> don't make them anymore.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One thing I'd like to do someday is try fruitcake English style with
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> slice of cheddar cheese.
>> >>>
>> >>> It is the only way I eat fruit cake.
>> >>
>> >> It sounds delicious. With a cup of tea, of course.
>> >>
>> > or a glass of port, or perhaps sloe gin:-)
>> > Graham
>>
>> Sloe gin is ghastly IMO. Worst hangover I ever had was from drinking sloe
>> gin and orange juice, caused a 3 day dull headache and to this day I
>> can't
>> forget how nasty that was, though I think a small glass of port is good.
>>
> I don't usually turn down the chance to drink alcohol, but IMO - a
> nice dry champagne appeals more than port or sloe gin with fruit cake
> and I'd rather have tea. Thanks.
>
>
> --
>
> sf

I like the sweet champagnes occasionally, but I don't drink much of anything
anymore.

Cheri

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:04:45 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> I like the sweet champagnes occasionally, but I don't drink much of anything
> anymore.

Egad. Perish the thought!

--

sf

Look up port wine fruit cake in search.

On 2015-11-12 2:26 PM, sf wrote:

> I was brought up with that option (sharp English cheddar), but I don't
> like cheddar with apple pie - even when it melts on a hot pie...
> cheddar and slices of a crisp, tart, apple is fine - but not with
> apple pie. Who knows? I may not like the cheddar/fruit cake combo
> either, but I want to try it someday to find out.
>


When you talk about the cheddar melting on the pie it makes me wonder
what sort of crap cheddar you are using. Any cheddar that would melt on
a piece of pie would likely be quite disgusting on the pie. Cheddar is
not my favourite cheese by any means. Nor is apple my favourite pie, but
when I have apple pie I really like a slice of aged cheddar on it.

On 2015-11-12 3:07 PM, Janet wrote:

>> The pud definitely needs alcohol, else how is it going to light
>> properly for serving?
>
> ? We pour alcohol over the Xmas pudding immediately before lighting it.

My mother was not a drinker, but she always used lots of booze in her
Christmas pudding, and there was always some splashed on to flambe at
serving time.


Alas, we may not have any Christmas pudding this year. My mother used to
make it every year, but she died 8 years ago. Since then we have been
doing Christmas with my brother and his wife and SiL's parents have been
coming. Her mother used to provide the Christmas pudding. They won't be
coming this year. It is too late to start. My wife will probably make
chocolate eclairs anyway, and my brother would probably rather have them
them than a pudding that most people only want to have one serving of.

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:15:39 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2015-11-12 2:26 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > I was brought up with that option (sharp English cheddar), but I don't
> > like cheddar with apple pie - even when it melts on a hot pie...
> > cheddar and slices of a crisp, tart, apple is fine - but not with
> > apple pie. Who knows? I may not like the cheddar/fruit cake combo
> > either, but I want to try it someday to find out.
> >
>
>
> When you talk about the cheddar melting on the pie it makes me wonder
> what sort of crap cheddar you are using. Any cheddar that would melt on
> a piece of pie would likely be quite disgusting on the pie. Cheddar is
> not my favourite cheese by any means. Nor is apple my favourite pie, but
> when I have apple pie I really like a slice of aged cheddar on it.

I remember very dry, sharp English cheddar as a kid. Tried it as
adult with a milder American cheddar that hubby liked. Don't
particularly care what you think about the quality or lack thereof. I
don't like cheddar with apple pie. End of story.

--

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Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:17:37 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I would use an orange or other fruit liqueur....but I don't like any
>>> Alcohol in the plum pudding (not fruitcake) I make, and don't eat
>>> fruitcake because it usually has tree nuts, which I am allergic to.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>> The pud definitely needs alcohol, else how is it going to light
>> properly for serving?
>
> ? We pour alcohol over the Xmas pudding immediately before lighting it.
>
> Janet UK
>
I'd pay money to see you do that to Marty!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:04:45 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>> I like the sweet champagnes occasionally, but I don't drink much of
>> anything
>> anymore.
>
> Egad. Perish the thought!
>
> --
>
> sf

LOL dh says the same thing. I only like really sweet wines, champagnes etc.
but then I'm not really a wine or champagne drinker much at all.

Cheri

On 11/12/2015 1:47 AM, Janet B wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:41:28 -0500, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>> I've made excellent fruit cake using only dried figs. I also really
>> love a good date nut loaf. My mom used to bake them in saved coffee
>> cans... cut bottom lid and push out, round slices with cream cheese,
>> can't stop eating.
>
> I make Boston Brown Bread in coffee cans. I have 3 1-pound Chock Full
> O Nuts cans. I haven't removed the bottom. A knife slipped between
> the can and bread will loosen the baked bread.
> Janet US
>
That sounds similar to something my mom used to make in cans. She made
date nut bread in a can, and after sliding it out, would make some cream
cheese filling with pink and other food colors and make tiny sandwiches.
They were beautiful and delicious.

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:38:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:04:45 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like the sweet champagnes occasionally, but I don't drink much of
>>> anything
>>> anymore.
>>
>> Egad. Perish the thought!
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf
>
>LOL dh says the same thing. I only like really sweet wines, champagnes etc.
>but then I'm not really a wine or champagne drinker much at all.
>
>Cheri

I used to loathe really sweet wines but serve a Sauterne with say a
creme caramel and it takes on another life.

LOL again...my first bad alcohol experience was with blackberry brandy.
hey, there is something you could dose the fruitcake with, although I would
guess it would be too strong and specific.

N.

On 11/12/2015 6:38 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:04:45 -0800, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like the sweet champagnes occasionally, but I don't drink much of
>>> anything
>>> anymore.
>>
>> Egad. Perish the thought!
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf
>
> LOL dh says the same thing. I only like really sweet wines, champagnes
> etc. but then I'm not really a wine or champagne drinker much at all.
>
> Cheri
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 11/13/2015 5:16 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:38:13 -0800, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:04:45 -0800, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like the sweet champagnes occasionally, but I don't drink much of
>>>> anything
>>>> anymore.
>>>
>>> Egad. Perish the thought!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sf
>>
>> LOL dh says the same thing. I only like really sweet wines, champagnes etc.
>> but then I'm not really a wine or champagne drinker much at all.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I used to loathe really sweet wines but serve a Sauterne with say a
> creme caramel and it takes on another life.
>
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.