....Indian stores?

Two such stores I checked didn't have them.

Am I right in guessing that's likely because those herbs are commonly used
with meat? (At one store, the Indian clerk had never heard of them.)


Lenona.

On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:31:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

> ...Indian stores?
>
> Two such stores I checked didn't have them.
>
> Am I right in guessing that's likely because those herbs are commonly used
> with meat? (At one store, the Indian clerk had never heard of them.)
>
>

They are European, not Indian and they aren't used in Indian recipes.


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sf

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:02:40 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:

>
> They are European, not Indian and they aren't used in Indian recipes.

Fine, but, believe it or not, I found at least one Indian restaurant that
served...BEEF!

So why wouldn't their grocery stores change in more subtle ways, too?

Just as the recipe for spaghetti was imported into Italy from China, IIRC...


Lenona.

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:02:40 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>
>>
>> They are European, not Indian and they aren't used in Indian recipes.
>
> Fine, but, believe it or not, I found at least one Indian restaurant that
> served...BEEF!
>
> So why wouldn't their grocery stores change in more subtle ways, too?
>
> Just as the recipe for spaghetti was imported into Italy from China,
> IIRC...
>
>
> Lenona.

Just how old ARE you?

And no, current thinking is that pasta existed in Italy prior to Marco Polo.

On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:49:44 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:02:40 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>
> >
> > They are European, not Indian and they aren't used in Indian recipes.
>
> Fine, but, believe it or not, I found at least one Indian restaurant that
> served...BEEF!
>
> So why wouldn't their grocery stores change in more subtle ways, too?
>
> Just as the recipe for spaghetti was imported into Italy from China, IIRC...
>
They'll shift as their customers become more Americanized and
ultimately change into an International Grocery. Then you'll wonder
what happened to all the Indian markets.


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sf

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 12:49:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>
> Fine, but, believe it or not, I found at least one Indian restaurant that
> served...BEEF!
>
So what? There are many no Hindu Indians who eat beef.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 9:49:51 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:02:40 AM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>
> >
> > They are European, not Indian and they aren't used in Indian recipes.
>
> Fine, but, believe it or not, I found at least one Indian restaurant that
> served...BEEF!

While the cow may be sacred, the bull (or steer) may not be.
Further, even in Hinduism, dead cows were not allowed to go to waste.
They were neither cremated nor buried.

>
> So why wouldn't their grocery stores change in more subtle ways, too?
>

They are specialist shops.

On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 3:31:38 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> ...Indian stores?
>
> Two such stores I checked didn't have them.
>
> Am I right in guessing that's likely because those herbs are commonly used
> with meat? (At one store, the Indian clerk had never heard of them.)
>

Plenty of Indians eat meat. Rosemary is a Mediterranean plant, not a
subtropical one.

BTW, I don't like to buy herbs and spices in Indian stores unless they're
just for cooking, and I use thyme for salad dressing.

On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 5:31:38 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> ...Indian stores?
>
> Two such stores I checked
>
> Lenona.
>
>
Instead of pondering why Indian stores don't stock R & T
and wasting time and gas, just head over to your nearest
mega market. They'll be glad to sell them to you.

'Problem' solved.

On 2015-10-29 18:20:25 +0000, said:

> Instead of pondering why Indian stores don't stock R & T and wasting
> time and gas, just head over to your nearest mega market. They'll be
> glad to sell them to you. 'Problem' solved.

I thought it was a question about culture rather than a problem about
the inability to find rosemary and thyme. At that level, it is mildly
interesting.

But back to the "non-problem': When we moved to our current home, Nancy
planted rosemary, thyme, sage, basil, oregano (two kinds) mint, chives,
parsley, arugula, shiso, perilla. The last handful of items take some
periodic maintenance or fussment, but most of the first batch require
only not forgetting they are there. Hell *I* didn't even know they
were all there until I getting more interested in cooking.

Admittedly I live in (overly) sunny SoCal, but the two that seem the
most robust and plentiful are rosemary and thyme.

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 2:50:54 PM UTC-4, gtr wrote:
>
> Admittedly I live in (overly) sunny SoCal, but the two that seem the
> most robust and plentiful are rosemary and thyme.

Rosemary does not winter in harsh environments.

http://www.richardfisher.com

i don't know about Thyme, but Rosemary is very easy to grow
in many climates, in my experience

marc

> wrote in message
...
> i don't know about Thyme, but Rosemary is very easy to grow
> in many climates, in my experience
>
> marc

It won't overwinter in my bit of Scotland.


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On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 4:52:49 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> i don't know about Thyme, but Rosemary is very easy to grow
> in many climates, in my experience

Sure, many. Rosemary is reliably hardy to 20 F (-6 C), which is USDA Zone 9
(the Left Coast and the South, although microclimates elsewhere may permit
growing rosemary). Hereabouts, we get days on end when the daytime high
is below 20 F (-6 C), and the nighttime lows are 0 F (-17 C).

Cindy Hamlton

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

> On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 2:50:54 PM UTC-4, gtr wrote:
> >
> > Admittedly I live in (overly) sunny SoCal, but the two that seem the
> > most robust and plentiful are rosemary and thyme.
>
> Rosemary does not winter in harsh environments.
>
It's very hardy in all the other climates and demands little water,
which is a big plus for California. Up here, my pineapple sage does
better than the thyme.


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sf

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 1:50:54 PM UTC-5, gtr wrote:
>
> On 2015-10-29 18:20:25 +0000, said:
>
> > Instead of pondering why Indian stores don't stock R & T and wasting
> > time and gas, just head over to your nearest mega market. They'll be
> > glad to sell them to you. 'Problem' solved.
>
> I thought it was a question about culture rather than a problem about
> the inability to find rosemary and thyme.
>
>
It must be a problem for her as she stated in her original
post she'd gone to 2 Indian stores and they didn't stock
R & T.

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 4:56:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

> >
> >
> It must be a problem for her as she stated in her original
> post she'd gone to 2 Indian stores and they didn't stock
> R & T.


Well, not really. I was just hoping to find a bargain - I recently found
200 grams of cinnamon at an Indian store for 99 cents. (Most of the time,
ethnic groceries do not have low prices, since they're small stores.)


Lenona.

On 2015-10-29 23:05:26 +0000, said:

> On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 4:56:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>
>> It must be a problem for her as she stated in her original
>> post she'd gone to 2 Indian stores and they didn't stock
>> R & T.

My bad, I thought it was just an observation.

> Well, not really. I was just hoping to find a bargain - I recently found
> 200 grams of cinnamon at an Indian store for 99 cents. (Most of the time,
> ethnic groceries do not have low prices, since they're small stores.)

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 4:56:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>
> > >
> > >
> > It must be a problem for her as she stated in her original
> > post she'd gone to 2 Indian stores and they didn't stock
> > R & T.
>
>
> Well, not really. I was just hoping to find a bargain - I recently found
> 200 grams of cinnamon at an Indian store for 99 cents.

Be warned that cheap spices can be misleading. Cheap "cinnamon" may be
cassia. Similarly, cheap "saffron" will usually be dried marigold petals
used to colour rice ; not the stamens of crocus.

Janet UK

What about parsley and sage?

On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 6:31:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> ...Indian stores?
>
> Two such stores I checked didn't have them.
>
> Am I right in guessing that's likely because those herbs are commonly used
> with meat? (At one store, the Indian clerk had never heard of them.)
>
>
> Lenona.

That is because they have never been to Scarborough Fair