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On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:48:40 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
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> >> I received an email recipe from ATK, which was for the well-known
> >> strawberry gelatin
> >> salad with a pretzel crust. Without stating the product they were
> >> calling "fake," their
> >> recipe included dairy whipped cream. I am sure the easy recipe called
> >> for Cool Whip,
> >> not genuine whipped cream. It was the only component which could have
> >> been a
> >> substitute for something else. The rest of the recipe had genuine
> >> strawberries, genuine
> >> plain gelatin, and genuine pretzels.
> >>
> >> But since when is an ingredient called "fake" without defining what it is
> >> a substitute for?
> >> An ingredient is an ingredient. It was sloppy editing to refer to Cool
> >> Whip as a fake
> >> ingredient without defining what their "real" ingredient was. Don't you
> >> agree? Or am I
> >> being exceptionally cranky....
> >>
> >> N.

> >
> > Maybe they didn't want to use the name brand. There are other brands of
> > crap like Cool Whip.

>
> So what is Cool Whip? Pretendy cream?


Imitation whipped cream. Ingredients:

water, hydrogenated vegetable oil (including coconut and palm oils), high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, skimmed milk, light cream, and less than 2% sodium caseinate (a milk derivative), natural and artificial flavor, xanthan and guar gums, polysorbate 60, sorbitan monostearate, and beta carotene (as a coloring

You buy it frozen, and let it defrost before serving.

I haven't had any in a very, very long time. I recall it had a somewhat
metallic flavor and a greasy mouthfeel. And it was sweet as hell.

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> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:48:40 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >>
>> >> I received an email recipe from ATK, which was for the well-known
>> >> strawberry gelatin
>> >> salad with a pretzel crust. Without stating the product they were
>> >> calling "fake," their
>> >> recipe included dairy whipped cream. I am sure the easy recipe called
>> >> for Cool Whip,
>> >> not genuine whipped cream. It was the only component which could have
>> >> been a
>> >> substitute for something else. The rest of the recipe had genuine
>> >> strawberries, genuine
>> >> plain gelatin, and genuine pretzels.
>> >>
>> >> But since when is an ingredient called "fake" without defining what it
>> >> is
>> >> a substitute for?
>> >> An ingredient is an ingredient. It was sloppy editing to refer to
>> >> Cool
>> >> Whip as a fake
>> >> ingredient without defining what their "real" ingredient was. Don't
>> >> you
>> >> agree? Or am I
>> >> being exceptionally cranky....
>> >>
>> >> N.
>> >
>> > Maybe they didn't want to use the name brand. There are other brands
>> > of
>> > crap like Cool Whip.

>>
>> So what is Cool Whip? Pretendy cream?

>
> Imitation whipped cream. Ingredients:
>
> water, hydrogenated vegetable oil (including coconut and palm oils), high
> fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, skimmed milk, light cream, and less than
> 2% sodium caseinate (a milk derivative), natural and artificial flavor,
> xanthan and guar gums, polysorbate 60, sorbitan monostearate, and beta
> carotene (as a coloring


Oh dear ... Thanks.

>
> You buy it frozen, and let it defrost before serving.


Ahh I was imagining it in a squirty can.


> I haven't had any in a very, very long time. I recall it had a somewhat
> metallic flavor and a greasy mouthfeel. And it was sweet as hell.


I wouldn't fancy that!! I enjoy real cream too much.

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Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM. Shocker, huh.
LOL.

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> Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM.
> Shocker, huh.
> LOL.


Is it?? <g> I bet it is more expensive than just whipping up your own
though eh???
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:47:33 +0100, "Ophelia" >
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>"Nancy2" > wrote in message
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>> Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM.
>> Shocker, huh.
>> LOL.

>
>Is it?? <g> I bet it is more expensive than just whipping up your own
>though eh???
>.


Yes, but Reddi-whip is WAY easier!! Plus at the end of the can, you
get a free N2O hit! Priceless!! :-)

John Kuthe...


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> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Nancy2" > wrote in message
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>>> Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM.
>>> Shocker, huh.
>>> LOL.

>>
>>Is it?? <g> I bet it is more expensive than just whipping up your own
>>though eh???
>>.

>
> Yes, but Reddi-whip is WAY easier!! Plus at the end of the can, you
> get a free N2O hit! Priceless!! :-)


duh!

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John, have you been inhaling that funny stuff again?

Point 1. My 8 oz. cardboard container of "heavy whipping cream," from my local Anderson
Erickson Dairy, says the contents a "Grade A Cream." That is all that is in it.
What kind of whipping cream are you buying, anyway??

Point 2: my Butter Toffee Crunch recipe has water, not cream. What kind of recipe
are you using, anyway??

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On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
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> > Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM.
> > Shocker, huh.
> > LOL.

>
> Is it?? <g> I bet it is more expensive than just whipping up your own
> though eh???


Some of it is real cream; some of it isn't. In any case, you can't
control the amount of sugar in it.

It might not necessarily be more expensive, due to economies of scale.
I haven't looked recently, but it seems to me that there are more
cans of whipped cream than cartons of heavy cream at the grocery store.
Or my memory could be faulty.

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> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM.
>> > Shocker, huh.
>> > LOL.

>>
>> Is it?? <g> I bet it is more expensive than just whipping up your own
>> though eh???

>
> Some of it is real cream; some of it isn't. In any case, you can't
> control the amount of sugar in it.
>
> It might not necessarily be more expensive, due to economies of scale.
> I haven't looked recently, but it seems to me that there are more
> cans of whipped cream than cartons of heavy cream at the grocery store.
> Or my memory could be faulty.


Are you saying they add sugar to the canned stuff??

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On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 3:23:21 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> > On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM.
> >> > Shocker, huh.
> >> > LOL.
> >>
> >> Is it?? <g> I bet it is more expensive than just whipping up your own
> >> though eh???

> >
> > Some of it is real cream; some of it isn't. In any case, you can't
> > control the amount of sugar in it.
> >
> > It might not necessarily be more expensive, due to economies of scale.
> > I haven't looked recently, but it seems to me that there are more
> > cans of whipped cream than cartons of heavy cream at the grocery store.
> > Or my memory could be faulty.

>
> Are you saying they add sugar to the canned stuff??


Good grief, yes! This is America. They add sugar to everything.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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>> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM.
>>> > Shocker, huh.
>>> > LOL.
>>>
>>> Is it?? <g> I bet it is more expensive than just whipping up your own
>>> though eh???

>>
>> Some of it is real cream; some of it isn't. In any case, you can't
>> control the amount of sugar in it.
>>
>> It might not necessarily be more expensive, due to economies of scale.
>> I haven't looked recently, but it seems to me that there are more
>> cans of whipped cream than cartons of heavy cream at the grocery store.
>> Or my memory could be faulty.

>
> Are you saying they add sugar to the canned stuff??


You don't add sugar to whipped cream? Some people don't, but I think it's
far more common to add it.

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM.
>> > Shocker, huh.
>> > LOL.

>>
>> Is it?? <g> I bet it is more expensive than just whipping up your own
>> though eh???

>
> Some of it is real cream; some of it isn't. In any case, you can't
> control the amount of sugar in it.
>
> It might not necessarily be more expensive, due to economies of scale.
> I haven't looked recently, but it seems to me that there are more
> cans of whipped cream than cartons of heavy cream at the grocery store.
> Or my memory could be faulty.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


It's true. I have only bought heavy cream a few times in my life. You
really have to hunt that down. And the canned stuff comes in different
flavors.

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On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 1:59:50 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
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> > It might not necessarily be more expensive, due to economies of scale.
> > I haven't looked recently, but it seems to me that there are more
> > cans of whipped cream than cartons of heavy cream at the grocery store.
> > Or my memory could be faulty.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton

>
> It's true. I have only bought heavy cream a few times in my life. You
> really have to hunt that down. And the canned stuff comes in different
> flavors.


Every grocery store I have ever been to has heavy cream. The trick
is finding it not ultra-pasteurized or loaded with stabilizers.

And the canned stuff has way more sugar than I would add if I whipped
my own. It tastes like candy, not cream.

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On 8/21/2015 2:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM.
>>> Shocker, huh.
>>> LOL.

>>
>> Is it?? <g> I bet it is more expensive than just whipping up your own
>> though eh???

>
> Some of it is real cream; some of it isn't. In any case, you can't
> control the amount of sugar in it.
>
> It might not necessarily be more expensive, due to economies of scale.
> I haven't looked recently, but it seems to me that there are more
> cans of whipped cream than cartons of heavy cream at the grocery store.
> Or my memory could be faulty.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Here's a commercial for the spray cream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=worqo3K2qqc

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
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>> Ophelia, that stuff in the "squirty can" is GENUINE WHIPPED CREAM.
>> Shocker, huh.
>> LOL.

>
> Is it?? <g> I bet it is more expensive than just whipping up your own
> though eh???


It's not very expensive, particularly if you buy it at Costco. I usually
pay perhaps $2 for a can, if that. One can lasts many months. It's far
cheaper per can at Costco and the cans are much larger but we can't use the
three cans (that's how it comes packaged there) in a year.



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On 21/08/2015 04:05 pm, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:48:40 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> > "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>> > ...
>>> >>
>>> >> I received an email recipe from ATK, which was for the well-known
>>> >> strawberry gelatin
>>> >> salad with a pretzel crust. Without stating the product they were
>>> >> calling "fake," their
>>> >> recipe included dairy whipped cream. I am sure the easy recipe
>>> called
>>> >> for Cool Whip,
>>> >> not genuine whipped cream. It was the only component which could
>>> have
>>> >> been a
>>> >> substitute for something else. The rest of the recipe had genuine
>>> >> strawberries, genuine
>>> >> plain gelatin, and genuine pretzels.
>>> >>
>>> >> But since when is an ingredient called "fake" without defining
>>> what it
>>> >> is
>>> >> a substitute for?
>>> >> An ingredient is an ingredient. It was sloppy editing to refer to
>>> >> Cool
>>> >> Whip as a fake
>>> >> ingredient without defining what their "real" ingredient was. Don't
>>> >> you
>>> >> agree? Or am I
>>> >> being exceptionally cranky....
>>> >>
>>> >> N.
>>> >
>>> > Maybe they didn't want to use the name brand. There are other brands
>>> > of
>>> > crap like Cool Whip.
>>>
>>> So what is Cool Whip? Pretendy cream?

>>
>> Imitation whipped cream. Ingredients:
>>
>> water, hydrogenated vegetable oil (including coconut and palm oils), high
>> fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, skimmed milk, light cream, and less than
>> 2% sodium caseinate (a milk derivative), natural and artificial flavor,
>> xanthan and guar gums, polysorbate 60, sorbitan monostearate, and beta
>> carotene (as a coloring

>
> Oh dear ... Thanks.
>
>>
>> You buy it frozen, and let it defrost before serving.

>
> Ahh I was imagining it in a squirty can.
>
>
>> I haven't had any in a very, very long time. I recall it had a somewhat
>> metallic flavor and a greasy mouthfeel. And it was sweet as hell.

>
> I wouldn't fancy that!! I enjoy real cream too much.
>

The nearest thing we have to 'Cool Whip" is 'Elmlea'...

http://www.unilever.co.uk/brands-in-...Elmlea/293634/
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On 8/24/2015 7:13 AM, Saint George wrote:
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Ayup...

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>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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>>> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:48:40 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> >
>>>> > "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>>> > ...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I received an email recipe from ATK, which was for the well-known
>>>> >> strawberry gelatin
>>>> >> salad with a pretzel crust. Without stating the product they were
>>>> >> calling "fake," their
>>>> >> recipe included dairy whipped cream. I am sure the easy recipe
>>>> called
>>>> >> for Cool Whip,
>>>> >> not genuine whipped cream. It was the only component which could
>>>> have
>>>> >> been a
>>>> >> substitute for something else. The rest of the recipe had genuine
>>>> >> strawberries, genuine
>>>> >> plain gelatin, and genuine pretzels.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> But since when is an ingredient called "fake" without defining
>>>> what it
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> a substitute for?
>>>> >> An ingredient is an ingredient. It was sloppy editing to refer to
>>>> >> Cool
>>>> >> Whip as a fake
>>>> >> ingredient without defining what their "real" ingredient was. Don't
>>>> >> you
>>>> >> agree? Or am I
>>>> >> being exceptionally cranky....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> N.
>>>> >
>>>> > Maybe they didn't want to use the name brand. There are other brands
>>>> > of
>>>> > crap like Cool Whip.
>>>>
>>>> So what is Cool Whip? Pretendy cream?
>>>
>>> Imitation whipped cream. Ingredients:
>>>
>>> water, hydrogenated vegetable oil (including coconut and palm oils),
>>> high
>>> fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, skimmed milk, light cream, and less
>>> than
>>> 2% sodium caseinate (a milk derivative), natural and artificial flavor,
>>> xanthan and guar gums, polysorbate 60, sorbitan monostearate, and beta
>>> carotene (as a coloring

>>
>> Oh dear ... Thanks.
>>
>>>
>>> You buy it frozen, and let it defrost before serving.

>>
>> Ahh I was imagining it in a squirty can.
>>
>>
>>> I haven't had any in a very, very long time. I recall it had a somewhat
>>> metallic flavor and a greasy mouthfeel. And it was sweet as hell.

>>
>> I wouldn't fancy that!! I enjoy real cream too much.
>>

> The nearest thing we have to 'Cool Whip" is 'Elmlea'...
>
> http://www.unilever.co.uk/brands-in-...Elmlea/293634/


I have seen that. Is it like Cool whip? Have you seen flavoured cream or
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On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 7:48:40 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Nancy2" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> I received an email recipe from ATK, which was for the well-known
> >> strawberry gelatin
> >> salad with a pretzel crust. Without stating the product they were
> >> calling "fake," their
> >> recipe included dairy whipped cream. I am sure the easy recipe called
> >> for Cool Whip,
> >> not genuine whipped cream. It was the only component which could have
> >> been a
> >> substitute for something else. The rest of the recipe had genuine
> >> strawberries, genuine
> >> plain gelatin, and genuine pretzels.
> >>
> >> But since when is an ingredient called "fake" without defining what it
> >> is
> >> a substitute for?
> >> An ingredient is an ingredient. It was sloppy editing to refer to Cool
> >> Whip as a fake
> >> ingredient without defining what their "real" ingredient was. Don't
> >> you
> >> agree? Or am I
> >> being exceptionally cranky....
> >>
> >> N.

> >
> > Maybe they didn't want to use the name brand. There are other brands of
> > crap like Cool Whip.

>
> So what is Cool Whip? Pretendy cream?


Imitation whipped cream. Ingredients:

water, hydrogenated vegetable oil (including coconut and palm oils), high
fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, skimmed milk, light cream, and less than 2%
sodium caseinate (a milk derivative), natural and artificial flavor, xanthan
and guar gums, polysorbate 60, sorbitan monostearate, and beta carotene (as
a coloring

You buy it frozen, and let it defrost before serving.

I haven't had any in a very, very long time. I recall it had a somewhat
metallic flavor and a greasy mouthfeel. And it was sweet as hell.

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Most people I know who do eat it, eat it frozen, like ice cream.

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