I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this way
because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off But
there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
they went. Ick.

What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:04:30 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this way
>because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off But
>there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>they went. Ick.
>
>What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?

Why do you buy from Amazon? They are so far removed from the food
production chain, I'm not surprised they are poor quality.

Radishes also happen to be hands-down the easiest vegetable to grow
yourself. If you like radishes, why not grow some? They could hardly
be easier to grow. If you did, you'd probably complain about having
too many radishes. Don't tell me you can't grow them, *anyone* can,
regardless of where they live.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:04:30 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this
>>way
>>because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>>greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>>looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>>assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off
>>But
>>there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>>open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>>they went. Ick.
>>
>>What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>
> Why do you buy from Amazon? They are so far removed from the food
> production chain, I'm not surprised they are poor quality.

How are they far removed? It's local produce! And I bought from them
because I am in the middle of a long, drawn out process of getting my house
painted. I think today will finish it up. He just has to do the front
door, remove a little tape and such and perhaps some touch up. Intermittent
thunderstorms that come out of nowhere are causing him to have to stop.

Couple that with some sort of bizarre allergic reaction that caused my nose
and eyes to swell up and a subsequent trip to the ER. Which means that I
did not want to go out in public looking like that. I also had contact
dermatitis which I finally pinned to the cooling towel I had been using. At
any rate, my nose resembled a cross between W.C. Fields and Jimmy Durante.
Not how I desired to look. Swelling is almost all the way down now and BP
has returned to normal. It had been very high so I had been ordered to rest
until it came down.

This is why I have not been to the store except to go to the pharmacy late
at night for some prescriptions. Also a quick trip to Walmart for something
that somebody needed right away for a trip. And because of the trip, I was
also letting the food supply dwidle, save for those things I will personally
eat. I just cleaned out the fridge and got rid of all leftovers that I will
not eat and a few other things that I will not eat but will not keep until
they get back. So now I am pretty much down to condiments, a little cheese
and lunch meat and produce in there. Plus a lot of bottles of water.


I plan not to buy much while they are away. I do want to go to Big Lots
before their coupon expires. I hope to be able to get some pasta, a few
canned things, maybe some paper goods. I am running low on a few of these
things. Also need bread and some more soda pop.

I just made a full pot of chicken noodle soup and that should last me for
several days. Also got a case of Habitant Canadian Pea soup from Amazon.
That and some bean burritos and fresh produce will be enough for me. Will
have to get a little more produce at some point but have enough now for the
rest of the week.
>
> Radishes also happen to be hands-down the easiest vegetable to grow
> yourself. If you like radishes, why not grow some? They could hardly
> be easier to grow. If you did, you'd probably complain about having
> too many radishes. Don't tell me you can't grow them, *anyone* can,
> regardless of where they live.

Because I have no place to grow them. I have had gardens. I have a very
tiny yard here. I did try to garden using Earth Boxes. I had to put those
on my deck. Not an option now as the deck is giving up the ghost and that
will be the next project to get done. The guy who did the painting will do
the deck as well.

I also know that radishes are a cool weather crop. Weather like we've been
having is not good for growing them. They tend to bolt in hot weather and
if any are produced, they will likely be too hot for my liking. We are also
under the threat of water restrictions. And they could be severe. Our
water source is drying up rapidly and we have had very little rain. Those
thunderstorms produce a lot of light and noise but not much rain. If the
restrictions begin, it would mean not being able to use a garden hose and
even possible shut offs for several hours a day. I would never try to grow
anything in conditions like this.

The people I know who do have gardens are having bumper crops of some
things, like giant zucchinis but the tomatoes are getting a weird sunburn on
the bottoms so not edible. OTOH, I have a bumper crop of one kind of apple
and one kind of pear. I plan to take some to a friend and not sure what to
do with the rest. I will not can them. Been there, done that, nobody
wanted them or ate them. So big waste of our time. I might make some
Applets. Those were quite good.

On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 5:46:38 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:

> >
> >>I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this
> >>way
> >>because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
> >>greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
> >>looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
> >>assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off
> >>But
> >>there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
> >>open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
> >>they went. Ick.
> >>
> >>What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
> >
Most likely damage from flea beetles. Their larvae also infect turnips and
canola.

I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
smarten up.
====

Roy wrote:
> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
> smarten up.
> ====


Do you not get the concept of distribution centers and warehouses?

They're every bit as much a food wholesaler as Sysco.

Damn you're dumb.

On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 10:43:48 AM UTC-6, truth and honor wrote:
> Roy wrote:
> > I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
> > smarten up.
> > ====
>
>
> Do you not get the concept of distribution centers and warehouses?
>
> They're every bit as much a food wholesaler as Sysco.
>
> Damn you're dumb.

Sysco...yes, they distribute packaged crap mostly...and at huge markup
as well. I wouldn't buy ANYTHING from them. Somehow they have huge
influence on government-run enterprises or gov't supervised nursing or
old-folk homes. Personally, I wouldn't patronize them but I am not
in a position to make decisions for the institutions so mentioned.

If Julie wants crappy produce, she certainly is going about it the right
way.

Now, shut your yap and get back under your drawbridge.
===

On 8/14/2015 12:41 PM, Roy wrote:


>
> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
> smarten up.
> ====
>

Right, they are a food retailer. What makes them any less qualified
than Target, CVS,or Stop & Shop to sell food? Many supermarkets sell
small appliances and computer supplies.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/14/2015 12:41 PM, Roy wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
>> smarten up.
>> ====
>>
>
> Right, they are a food retailer. What makes them any less qualified than
> Target, CVS,or Stop & Shop to sell food? Many supermarkets sell small
> appliances and computer supplies.

This is Amazon Fresh which is a grocery delivery service in this area.
Almost everything I have gotten from them was fine. I did have two broken
eggs once. The two green bell peppers in my last order were a little
mushier than I would have liked. Wouldn't have been bad for cooking but I
wanted them raw. I ate most of one, just had to cut off a tiny spot. But
the other went South before I could eat it. The meat is excellent and up
until now I have not have a produce problem that I can remember.

However... Due to the hot weather here, there seems to be less produce
available than usual. Less variety and smaller displays. I guess that
would figure though. We were told to expect this.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:29:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/14/2015 12:41 PM, Roy wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
>> smarten up.
>
>Right, they are a food retailer. What makes them any less qualified
>than Target, CVS,or Stop & Shop to sell food? Many supermarkets sell
>small appliances and computer supplies.

I buy many food items from Amazon, and at lower cost than from the
brick and mortars, fast delivery and right to my door. I haven't
ordered perishables yet, I don't think that service is available here,
too rural. As an Amazon Prime customer I reap great service and
savings... I also avail myself of Amazon's Subscribe & Save feature,
even more savings.

On 8/14/2015 10:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/14/2015 12:41 PM, Roy wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
>> smarten up.
>> ====
>>
>
> Right, they are a food retailer. What makes them any less qualified
> than Target, CVS,or Stop & Shop to sell food? Many supermarkets sell
> small appliances and computer supplies.

Amazon.com is *now* a food retailer, in some areas. Amazon.com started
out as an online book retailer.

Target, CVS, Stop & Shop. Are those stores with physical buildings and
the room to stock fresh items? That's the difference.

I simply don't understand ordering something like produce online. I
don't see how anyone could expect it to be good unless they went to
select it themselves.

Jill

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 5:46:38 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> >
>> >>I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this
>> >>way
>> >>because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>> >>greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>> >>looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end.
>> >>I
>> >>assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off
>> >>But
>> >>there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>> >>open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So
>> >>out
>> >>they went. Ick.
>> >>
>> >>What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>> >
> Most likely damage from flea beetles. Their larvae also infect turnips and
> canola.
>
> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
> smarten up.
> ====

You only buy from Wholesalers?

On 8/14/2015 7:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 5:46:38 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>> >>I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them
>>> this
>>> >>way
>>> >>because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without
>>> the
>>> >>greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the
>>> bag
>>> >>looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the
>>> end. >>I
>>> >>assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off
>>> >>But
>>> >>there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two
>>> more
>>> >>open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside.
>>> So >>out
>>> >>they went. Ick.
>>> >>
>>> >>What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>>> >
>> Most likely damage from flea beetles. Their larvae also infect turnips
>> and
>> canola.
>>
>> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
>> smarten up.
>> ====
>
> You only buy from Wholesalers?

Amazon isn't even a Food Retailer in the strictest sense of the word.
Amazon started out as a bookstore, you do realize that, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon.com#History

"Bezos finally decided that his new business would sell books online,
due to the large world-wide demand for literature, the low price points
for books, along with the huge number of titles available in print.[20]
Amazon[21] was originally founded in Bezos' garage in Bellevue,
Washington.[22]"

Well... now they're an online megastore. They cannot possibly guarantee
you're going to get fantastic, fresh produce ordered through them
online. They're a third party vendor. Amazon doesn't employ farm
workers to pick the produce for you and deliver it to your door.

So sorry about the house painting issue but you said yourself it was
raining and delayed. Surely *someone* in the household could have gone
out and bought decent produce.

This isn't the first time you've mentioned disappointment with things
ordered from Amazon.com. I doubt it will be the last. (sigh)

Jill

On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 8:34:18 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 5:46:38 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> >>I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this
> >> >>way
> >> >>because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
> >> >>greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
> >> >>looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end.
> >> >>I
> >> >>assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off
> >> >>But
> >> >>there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
> >> >>open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So
> >> >>out
> >> >>they went. Ick.
> >> >>
> >> >>What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
> >> >
> > Most likely damage from flea beetles. Their larvae also infect turnips and
> > canola.
> >
> > I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
> > smarten up.
> > ====
>
> You only buy from Wholesalers?

No, but I have the option of buying "selected" merchandise from
a supply business which services Mom & Pop stores, bush camps,
individuals, cafes, etc., at discounted prices...but not as
cheaply as true wholesale businesses.

I don't think you know how business works in regard to retail and
wholesale...many times the lines are blurred when these so-called "supply outlets" get in the mix. Times have changed, there's no
doubt about it.

If you want wholesale prices now-a-days even the supplier as
in a farm sales outlet can fool you and one can be paying near full retail price without realizing it.
========

On 8/15/2015 2:41 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 5:46:38 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this
>>>> way
>>>> because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>>>> greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>>>> looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>>>> assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off
>>>> But
>>>> there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>>>> open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>>>> they went. Ick.
>>>>
>>>> What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>>>
> Most likely damage from flea beetles. Their larvae also infect turnips and
> canola.
>
> I wouldn't buy ANY foods from Amazon...they are not a food wholesaler...
> smarten up.
> ====
>
Mmmm hmmm...

On 8/14/2015 6:46 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> The people I know who do have gardens are having bumper crops of some
> things, like giant zucchinis but the tomatoes are getting a weird
> sunburn on the bottoms so not edible. OTOH, I have a bumper crop of one
> kind of apple and one kind of pear. I plan to take some to a friend and
> not sure what to do with the rest. I will not can them. Been there,
> done that, nobody wanted them or ate them. So big waste of our time. I
> might make some Applets. Those were quite good.


Are you sure that's sunburn on the *bottom* of tomatoes? It sounds more
like black root rot (although I do admit that root rot is usually more
prevalent when there is too much water, and that is not your problem
right now).

MaryL

"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/14/2015 6:46 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> The people I know who do have gardens are having bumper crops of some
>> things, like giant zucchinis but the tomatoes are getting a weird
>> sunburn on the bottoms so not edible. OTOH, I have a bumper crop of one
>> kind of apple and one kind of pear. I plan to take some to a friend and
>> not sure what to do with the rest. I will not can them. Been there,
>> done that, nobody wanted them or ate them. So big waste of our time. I
>> might make some Applets. Those were quite good.
>
>
> Are you sure that's sunburn on the *bottom* of tomatoes? It sounds more
> like black root rot (although I do admit that root rot is usually more
> prevalent when there is too much water, and that is not your problem right
> now).
>
> MaryL

That was the consensus. It had been posted about on the community Facebook
page. They get like a tan look to the bottom and it's hard skin.

On 8/14/2015 6:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "MaryL" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/14/2015 6:46 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> The people I know who do have gardens are having bumper crops of some
>>> things, like giant zucchinis but the tomatoes are getting a weird
>>> sunburn on the bottoms so not edible. OTOH, I have a bumper crop of one
>>> kind of apple and one kind of pear. I plan to take some to a friend and
>>> not sure what to do with the rest. I will not can them. Been there,
>>> done that, nobody wanted them or ate them. So big waste of our time. I
>>> might make some Applets. Those were quite good.
>>
>>
>> Are you sure that's sunburn on the *bottom* of tomatoes? It sounds
>> more like black root rot (although I do admit that root rot is usually
>> more prevalent when there is too much water, and that is not your
>> problem right now).
>>
>> MaryL
>
> That was the consensus. It had been posted about on the community
> Facebook page. They get like a tan look to the bottom and it's hard skin.

Well, it's not with that description. I think I would pick those
tomatoes a little early and let them ripen on the counter even though I
usually prefer fully ripe tomatoes from the vine.

MaryL

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Jeßus" wrote:
> > Why do you buy from Amazon? They are so far removed from the food
> > production chain, I'm not surprised they are poor quality.
>
> How are they far removed? It's local produce! And I bought from them
> because I am in the middle of a long, drawn out process of getting my house
> painted. I think today will finish it up.

He just started it last Friday and now he's finishing up. You call
that a long, drawn out process? Are you for real? Send a pic please.
I would love to see your color combination. It sounds good.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>> > Why do you buy from Amazon? They are so far removed from the food
>> > production chain, I'm not surprised they are poor quality.
>>
>> How are they far removed? It's local produce! And I bought from them
>> because I am in the middle of a long, drawn out process of getting my
>> house
>> painted. I think today will finish it up.
>
> He just started it last Friday and now he's finishing up. You call
> that a long, drawn out process? Are you for real? Send a pic please.
> I would love to see your color combination. It sounds good.

He didn't just start on Fri. He started a week ago Tues. I was hoping he
would be done today but due to the thunderstorm that came later than
predicted and continues now, I don't think so. He did try to do a few
things today. But then he went home.

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> How are they far removed? It's local produce! And I bought from them
> because I am in the middle of a long, drawn out process of getting my house
> painted. I think today will finish it up. He just has to do the front
> door, remove a little tape and such and perhaps some touch up. Intermittent
> thunderstorms that come out of nowhere are causing him to have to stop.
>
> Couple that with some sort of bizarre allergic reaction that caused my nose
> and eyes to swell up and a subsequent trip to the ER.

bet you didn't use low/no VOC paint



Which means that I
> did not want to go out in public looking like that.

and your poor little daughter or husband were unable to shop for
radishes?


I also had contact
> dermatitis which I finally pinned to the cooling towel I had been using. At
> any rate, my nose resembled a cross between W.C. Fields and Jimmy Durante.
> Not how I desired to look. Swelling is almost all the way down now and BP
> has returned to normal. It had been very high so I had been ordered to rest
> until it came down.
>
> This is why I have not been to the store except to go to the pharmacy late
> at night for some prescriptions. Also a quick trip to Walmart for something
> that somebody needed right away for a trip. And because of the trip, I was
> also letting the food supply dwidle, save for those things I will personally
> eat. I just cleaned out the fridge and got rid of all leftovers that I will
> not eat and a few other things that I will not eat but will not keep until
> they get back. So now I am pretty much down to condiments, a little cheese
> and lunch meat and produce in there. Plus a lot of bottles of water.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 04:46:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:04:30 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this
>>>way
>>>because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>>>greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>>>looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>>>assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off
>>>But
>>>there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>>>open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>>>they went. Ick.
>>>
>>>What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>>
>> Why do you buy from Amazon? They are so far removed from the food
>> production chain, I'm not surprised they are poor quality.
>
>How are they far removed? It's local produce! And I bought from them
>because I am in the middle of a long, drawn out process of getting my house
>painted. I think today will finish it up. He just has to do the front
>door, remove a little tape and such and perhaps some touch up. Intermittent
>thunderstorms that come out of nowhere are causing him to have to stop.
>
>Couple that with some sort of bizarre allergic reaction that caused my nose
>and eyes to swell up and a subsequent trip to the ER. Which means that I
>did not want to go out in public looking like that. I also had contact
>dermatitis which I finally pinned to the cooling towel I had been using. At
>any rate, my nose resembled a cross between W.C. Fields and Jimmy Durante.
>Not how I desired to look. Swelling is almost all the way down now and BP
>has returned to normal. It had been very high so I had been ordered to rest
>until it came down.
>
>This is why I have not been to the store except to go to the pharmacy late
>at night for some prescriptions. Also a quick trip to Walmart for something
>that somebody needed right away for a trip. And because of the trip, I was
>also letting the food supply dwidle, save for those things I will personally
>eat. I just cleaned out the fridge and got rid of all leftovers that I will
>not eat and a few other things that I will not eat but will not keep until
>they get back. So now I am pretty much down to condiments, a little cheese
>and lunch meat and produce in there. Plus a lot of bottles of water.
>
>
>I plan not to buy much while they are away. I do want to go to Big Lots
>before their coupon expires. I hope to be able to get some pasta, a few
>canned things, maybe some paper goods. I am running low on a few of these
>things. Also need bread and some more soda pop.
>
>I just made a full pot of chicken noodle soup and that should last me for
>several days. Also got a case of Habitant Canadian Pea soup from Amazon.
>That and some bean burritos and fresh produce will be enough for me. Will
>have to get a little more produce at some point but have enough now for the
>rest of the week.
>>
>> Radishes also happen to be hands-down the easiest vegetable to grow
>> yourself. If you like radishes, why not grow some? They could hardly
>> be easier to grow. If you did, you'd probably complain about having
>> too many radishes. Don't tell me you can't grow them, *anyone* can,
>> regardless of where they live.
>
>Because I have no place to grow them. I have had gardens. I have a very
>tiny yard here. I did try to garden using Earth Boxes. I had to put those
>on my deck. Not an option now as the deck is giving up the ghost and that
>will be the next project to get done. The guy who did the painting will do
>the deck as well.
>
>I also know that radishes are a cool weather crop. Weather like we've been
>having is not good for growing them. They tend to bolt in hot weather and
>if any are produced, they will likely be too hot for my liking. We are also
>under the threat of water restrictions. And they could be severe. Our
>water source is drying up rapidly and we have had very little rain. Those
>thunderstorms produce a lot of light and noise but not much rain. If the
>restrictions begin, it would mean not being able to use a garden hose and
>even possible shut offs for several hours a day. I would never try to grow
>anything in conditions like this.
>
>The people I know who do have gardens are having bumper crops of some
>things, like giant zucchinis but the tomatoes are getting a weird sunburn on
>the bottoms so not edible. OTOH, I have a bumper crop of one kind of apple
>and one kind of pear. I plan to take some to a friend and not sure what to
>do with the rest. I will not can them. Been there, done that, nobody
>wanted them or ate them. So big waste of our time. I might make some
>Applets. Those were quite good.

Oh god... not today... I can't deal with you

Je�us wrote:
>> I might make some
>> >Applets. Those were quite good.
> Oh god... not today... I can't deal with you


But you _always_ make time to criticize her...always...

On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 4:59:53 PM UTC-6, truth and honor wrote:
> Je�us wrote:
> >> I might make some
> >> >Applets. Those were quite good.
> > Oh god... not today... I can't deal with you
>
>
> But you _always_ make time to criticize her...always...

Defending the downtrodden is a tough job...perhaps a three month
holiday would help. Why not try that? Perhaps the asylum from which
you escaped might let you back in...you'll never know unless
you try.
=====

"truth and honor" > wrote in message
...
> Je�us wrote:
>>> I might make some
>>> >Applets. Those were quite good.
>> Oh god... not today... I can't deal with you
>
>
> But you _always_ make time to criticize her...always...

Seems to be his claim to fame.

"Jeßus" wrote:
>
> Radishes also happen to be hands-down the easiest vegetable to grow
> yourself. If you like radishes, why not grow some?

I responded to her too soon. You said it all.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:12:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> Radishes also happen to be hands-down the easiest vegetable to grow
>> yourself. If you like radishes, why not grow some?
>
>I responded to her too soon. You said it all.

I might put some radishes in this year, why not?
Each time I grow them, I end up with way too many, even though I plant
less seeds each time... oh well

I have spent the past 6 days preparing my veggie garden. I pulled out
all the stops this year in a bid to break down the clay I have here.
Two large truckloads of sheep and cow poo, all of my poultry poo
collected over the past 5 years, some old sawdust, bales of old
sheep's fleece, large round bales of straw put through the
chipper/mulcher, blood and bone, dynamic lifter and about 40 bags of
lime... all mixed up and leveled out. Still need to mulch it, which I
hope to do today.

I plan to grow a lot of tomatoes this year, and make a huge batch of
tomato sauce.

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:01:51 +1000, Jeßus >
wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:12:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>>
>>> Radishes also happen to be hands-down the easiest vegetable to grow
>>> yourself. If you like radishes, why not grow some?
>>
>>I responded to her too soon. You said it all.
>
>I might put some radishes in this year, why not?
>Each time I grow them, I end up with way too many, even though I plant
>less seeds each time... oh well
>
>I have spent the past 6 days preparing my veggie garden. I pulled out
>all the stops this year in a bid to break down the clay I have here.
>Two large truckloads of sheep and cow poo, all of my poultry poo
>collected over the past 5 years, some old sawdust, bales of old
>sheep's fleece, large round bales of straw put through the
>chipper/mulcher, blood and bone, dynamic lifter and about 40 bags of
>lime... all mixed up and leveled out. Still need to mulch it, which I
>hope to do today.
>
>I plan to grow a lot of tomatoes this year, and make a huge batch of
>tomato sauce.

Add gypsum to your soil. It will change the nature of the clay. See
here for complete info. It's good stuff.
http://www.cmtmi.com/gypsum.asp
The amendments you are adding are excellent but they are needed in
addition to gypsum.
Janet US

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:58:36 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:01:51 +1000, Jeßus >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:12:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Radishes also happen to be hands-down the easiest vegetable to grow
>>>> yourself. If you like radishes, why not grow some?
>>>
>>>I responded to her too soon. You said it all.
>>
>>I might put some radishes in this year, why not?
>>Each time I grow them, I end up with way too many, even though I plant
>>less seeds each time... oh well
>>
>>I have spent the past 6 days preparing my veggie garden. I pulled out
>>all the stops this year in a bid to break down the clay I have here.
>>Two large truckloads of sheep and cow poo, all of my poultry poo
>>collected over the past 5 years, some old sawdust, bales of old
>>sheep's fleece, large round bales of straw put through the
>>chipper/mulcher, blood and bone, dynamic lifter and about 40 bags of
>>lime... all mixed up and leveled out. Still need to mulch it, which I
>>hope to do today.
>>
>>I plan to grow a lot of tomatoes this year, and make a huge batch of
>>tomato sauce.
>
>Add gypsum to your soil. It will change the nature of the clay. See
>here for complete info. It's good stuff.
>http://www.cmtmi.com/gypsum.asp
>The amendments you are adding are excellent but they are needed in
>addition to gypsum.

Thanks Janet, sadly gypsum doesn't work on the type of clay I have.
I found that out after many bags of gypsum. There is a simple test you
can do to determine if the clay is suitable for gypsum or not (I found
this out after the fact, of course).

It's alright now, though. There's that much organic matter through the
soil now, I'm close to winning If I do the same next year, there
shouldn't be any clumping whatsoever.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this way
> because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
> greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
> looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
> assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off But
> there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
> open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
> they went. Ick.
>
> What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?

Tunnels throughout the inside would be some insect, most likely. I
would send a complaint to Amazon and get my money back. If you like
radishes, buy a pack of seeds and grow your own. They grow like weeds.
I often even just grow them for ground cover for other plants.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this
>> way
>> because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>> greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>> looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>> assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off
>> But
>> there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>> open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>> they went. Ick.
>>
>> What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>
> Tunnels throughout the inside would be some insect, most likely. I
> would send a complaint to Amazon and get my money back. If you like
> radishes, buy a pack of seeds and grow your own. They grow like weeds.
> I often even just grow them for ground cover for other plants.

I have no place to grow them. I'm not going to try to get my money back.
These came packaged. I don't remember from where though.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:10:53 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this way
>> because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>> greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>> looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>> assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off But
>> there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>> open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>> they went. Ick.
>>
>> What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>
>Tunnels throughout the inside would be some insect, most likely. I
>would send a complaint to Amazon and get my money back. If you like
>radishes, buy a pack of seeds and grow your own. They grow like weeds.
>I often even just grow them for ground cover for other plants.

I agree with you. Tunnels are insects. Interior cracks are from
growing too fast.
Janet US

Julie Bove wrote:
>
>I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this way
>because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off But
>there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>they went. Ick.
>
>What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/black-r...hes-79443.html

On 8/15/2015 4:59 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I bought some radishes in a bag from Amazon. I prefer to get them this way
>> because I don't eat the greens Or if I can find loose ones without the
>> greens, like at Central Market, I'll get those. All but one in the bag
>> looked fine from the outside. But one had a little black on the end. I
>> assumed that it was dirt but it didn't wash off So I tried to cut off But
>> there were tunnels of black throughout the inside. I then cut two more
>> open. Same thing. Those looked perfectly fine from the outside. So out
>> they went. Ick.
>>
>> What might have caused this? Too much water when growing? A worm?
>
> http://homeguides.sfgate.com/black-r...hes-79443.html
>
Mmmm hmmm...