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On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 4:11:17 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
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> On 2/25/2015 11:47 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
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> > Just remember than enjoyment when you hang your laundry outside to dry
> > and get all those little white spots on it.
> >

> LOL I doubt MaryL hangs her laundry out to dry. I haven't known anyone
> who does that in years. Especially not in freezing weather.
>
> Jill
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I hang out sheets to dry about 6 months of the year, of course I don't in
the winter. Bras are hung on one of those 10-12 arm gizmos and it is then
hung on the clothes line.

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Well, Jill is right. I don't hang my laundry out to dry. I haven't done
that since the time when I was a teenager and my parents got our first
electric dryer. The only exception is that I have a hanging rod in my
attached garage. I have some clothing that I will put in the dryer for a
short time to remove wrinkles, and then I will hang them (on a hanger, not
the traditional clothes pin method) in the garage to finish drying.

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> On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 4:11:17 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
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>> On 2/25/2015 11:47 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
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>> > Just remember than enjoyment when you hang your laundry outside to dry
>> > and get all those little white spots on it.
>> >

>> LOL I doubt MaryL hangs her laundry out to dry. I haven't known anyone
>> who does that in years. Especially not in freezing weather.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>

> I hang out sheets to dry about 6 months of the year, of course I don't in
> the winter. Bras are hung on one of those 10-12 arm gizmos and it is then
> hung on the clothes line.
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> Well, Jill is right. I don't hang my laundry out to dry. I haven't done
> that since the time when I was a teenager and my parents got our first
> electric dryer. The only exception is that I have a hanging rod in my
> attached garage. I have some clothing that I will put in the dryer for a
> short time to remove wrinkles, and then I will hang them (on a hanger, not
> the traditional clothes pin method) in the garage to finish drying.
>
> MaryL


I tried twice here and gave up. We do have a really nice line back there
but it is just too shady. The stuff doesn't dry and stuff from the trees
falls on it. However, my neighbor, two doors down, hangs her stuff out all
the time. She has a bigger and more open yard than I do though.

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On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 02:29:20 -0600, "MaryL"
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> Well, Jill is right. I don't hang my laundry out to dry. I haven't done
> that since the time when I was a teenager and my parents got our first
> electric dryer. The only exception is that I have a hanging rod in my
> attached garage. I have some clothing that I will put in the dryer for a
> short time to remove wrinkles, and then I will hang them (on a hanger, not
> the traditional clothes pin method) in the garage to finish drying.
>

I agree with you Mary L. Dryers were invented for people like you and
me. I love all the modern conveniences. No way am I going to be
hanging clothes on a clothesline - inside, outside, Summer, Winter or
any season in-between. And the difference in smell is pure BS. If
your wash water isn't stinky, your clothing won't be stinky.

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> Do you even bother to recycle ?


For all the good it does, why bother?

I've seen some pretty grim documentaries. Last Call At the Oasis, a
docu on how we may run out of fresh water even before we run out of
oil. Rise of the Super Bugs, a docu on the new generation of
antibiotic resistant bacteria, that no known medicine can stop. You
catch 'em, you die. I see a lot of these, being retired and in having
nothing to watch except Netflix. NF finds these docus from
god-knows-where and it's seriously depressed watching them all. But!
.....I've never seen anything as horrifying as Plastic Paradise, the
documentary on how discarded plastics are killing us and the entire
planet.

http://www.vegetariantimes.com/blog/...stic-paradise/

IOW, don't salve yer mind with recycling. It's a joke. What you
should be doing is trying to live without plastics. I know it's
tough. Even our clothing is plastic. But, we gotta start. The
scenes of a mother Albatross feeding her chick bits of plastic, we
knowing they both will eventually die, is heartbreaking. Yet the
Midway rangers continue to pile up dead Albatross bodies like cord
wood. Birds that, when cut open, spill out a gut full of Bic lighters
and fishing line and micro-bits of plastic.

Jes watch the movie ....if you dare.

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> all our plastic is recyclable.


Go with the myth. So much easier:

"....(6.5%) were recycled ... 85.5%, were discarded in landfills."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasti...Other_plastics

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>On 27 Feb 2015 15:25:11 GMT, notbob > wrote:
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>>On 2015-02-26,
> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you even bother to recycle ?

>>
>>For all the good it does, why bother?
>>
>>I've seen some pretty grim documentaries. Last Call At the Oasis, a
>>docu on how we may run out of fresh water even before we run out of
>>oil. Rise of the Super Bugs, a docu on the new generation of
>>antibiotic resistant bacteria, that no known medicine can stop. You
>>catch 'em, you die. I see a lot of these, being retired and in having
>>nothing to watch except Netflix. NF finds these docus from
>>god-knows-where and it's seriously depressed watching them all. But!
>>....I've never seen anything as horrifying as Plastic Paradise, the
>>documentary on how discarded plastics are killing us and the entire
>>planet.
>>
>>
http://www.vegetariantimes.com/blog/...stic-paradise/
>>
>>IOW, don't salve yer mind with recycling. It's a joke. What you
>>should be doing is trying to live without plastics. I know it's
>>tough. Even our clothing is plastic. But, we gotta start. The
>>scenes of a mother Albatross feeding her chick bits of plastic, we
>>knowing they both will eventually die, is heartbreaking. Yet the
>>Midway rangers continue to pile up dead Albatross bodies like cord
>>wood. Birds that, when cut open, spill out a gut full of Bic lighters
>>and fishing line and micro-bits of plastic.
>>
>>Jes watch the movie ....if you dare.
>>
>>nb

>
>No I wouldn`t care to, however even a few years ago, I could see the
>bottom of deeper water changing. Amazing what was down there in some
>places.
>
>I honestly try to buy the less packaged articles and here, all our
>plastic is recyclable. It is costly on the property taxes, but well
>worth it. Best of all is tire recycling. I also do a lot of
>reusing, which is even better behaviour.


Door mats made from recycled tires are the best, they'll last 50
years, I have several. This company has the best I've seen:
http://www.coirmats.com/recycled-rubber-mats.html
I like the Fluffed version, my outdoor cats love them for lazing in
the sun, and after a rain they dry in no time:
http://www.coirmats.com/recycled-rub...-link-mat.html
Order from Amazon and save the shipping.

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>On 27 Feb 2015 15:52:52 GMT, notbob > wrote:
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>>On 2015-02-27,
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>>> all our plastic is recyclable.

>>
>>Go with the myth. So much easier:
>>
>>"....(6.5%) were recycled ... 85.5%, were discarded in landfills."
>>
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasti...Other_plastics
>>
>>nb

>
>No myth here, people are always on the watch for any fiddle. It is
>only about a year ago that the last plastic type was added.
>
>Admittedly there are many individuals who ignore it but to overcome
>that we are going to start using clear garbage bags the more easily to
>fine those who won't.
>
>Even here in this condo building, garbage has to be sorted. We have
>green bins for compostable stuff and the other bins hold cardboard,
>blue bag recyclables, paper only, and we collect our refundable
>bottles etc and return them to source and with the money raised there
>we put new windows in the party room, mostly to save heat leaking out.


I think ground up plastic bottles are used to make Thinsulate.
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>On 27 Feb 2015 15:25:11 GMT, notbob > wrote:
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>>On 2015-02-26,
> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you even bother to recycle ?

>>
>>For all the good it does, why bother?
>>
>>I've seen some pretty grim documentaries. Last Call At the Oasis, a
>>docu on how we may run out of fresh water even before we run out of
>>oil. Rise of the Super Bugs, a docu on the new generation of
>>antibiotic resistant bacteria, that no known medicine can stop. You
>>catch 'em, you die. I see a lot of these, being retired and in having
>>nothing to watch except Netflix. NF finds these docus from
>>god-knows-where and it's seriously depressed watching them all. But!
>>....I've never seen anything as horrifying as Plastic Paradise, the
>>documentary on how discarded plastics are killing us and the entire
>>planet.
>>
>>
http://www.vegetariantimes.com/blog/...stic-paradise/
>>
>>IOW, don't salve yer mind with recycling. It's a joke. What you
>>should be doing is trying to live without plastics. I know it's
>>tough. Even our clothing is plastic. But, we gotta start. The
>>scenes of a mother Albatross feeding her chick bits of plastic, we
>>knowing they both will eventually die, is heartbreaking. Yet the
>>Midway rangers continue to pile up dead Albatross bodies like cord
>>wood. Birds that, when cut open, spill out a gut full of Bic lighters
>>and fishing line and micro-bits of plastic.
>>
>>Jes watch the movie ....if you dare.
>>
>>nb

>
>No I wouldn`t care to, however even a few years ago, I could see the
>bottom of deeper water changing. Amazing what was down there in some
>places.
>
>I honestly try to buy the less packaged articles and here, all our
>plastic is recyclable. It is costly on the property taxes, but well
>worth it. Best of all is tire recycling. I also do a lot of
>reusing, which is even better behaviour.


Door mats made from recycled tires are the best, they'll last 50
years, I have several. This company has the best I've seen:
http://www.coirmats.com/recycled-rubber-mats.html
I like the Fluffed version, my outdoor cats love them for lazing in
the sun, and after a rain they dry in no time:
http://www.coirmats.com/recycled-rub...-link-mat.html
Order from Amazon and save the shipping.

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I have been using one of those for about 30 years. It still does not show
any signs of wear. The one I have looks like the "fluffed" mat in the link
you provided.

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On 2/27/2015 10:25 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-02-26, > wrote:
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>> Do you even bother to recycle ?

>
> For all the good it does, why bother?
>
> I've seen some pretty grim documentaries. Last Call At the Oasis, a
> docu on how we may run out of fresh water even before we run out of
> oil. Rise of the Super Bugs, a docu on the new generation of
> antibiotic resistant bacteria, that no known medicine can stop. You
> catch 'em, you die. I see a lot of these, being retired and in having
> nothing to watch except Netflix. NF finds these docus from
> god-knows-where and it's seriously depressed watching them all. But!
> ....I've never seen anything as horrifying as Plastic Paradise, the
> documentary on how discarded plastics are killing us and the entire
> planet.
>
>
http://www.vegetariantimes.com/blog/...stic-paradise/
>
> IOW, don't salve yer mind with recycling. It's a joke. What you
> should be doing is trying to live without plastics.



So we should all live without plastics because some people are slobs?
Better we should educate people to properly dispose of plastics and
either recycle or use it in a trash to energy plant because it has a
good fuel value. Styrene plastics have 18,000 BTU per pound.

Maybe we should live without the automobile because they kill people.



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> Like I sed, believe what you like. I'll take home no more plastic
> one-use shopping bags. Next to get the axe, plastic bottles
> (Gatorade) containing BPA (no recycling symbol!).
>
> nb
>


They don't have to be one use. We use them about 4 times and they end
up as fuel to generate electricity. We do use the reusable bags too.
Paper is just as bad as as plastic for the environment.
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>On 3/1/2015 2:58 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 2/27/2015 10:32 AM, wrote:
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>>> I honestly try to buy the less packaged articles and here, all our
>>> plastic is recyclable. It is costly on the property taxes, but well
>>> worth it. Best of all is tire recycling. I also do a lot of
>>> reusing, which is even better behaviour.

>>
>> I believe in reusing, too. Just yesterday I got rid of ton of cardboard
>> boxes that a neighbor helped me flatten just by posting on Freecycle. I
>> do a lot of online shopping especially for cat food and litter and those
>> boxes are very sturdy. One person came and took what they wanted, and
>> the second came and took the rest, plus the packing material. They were
>> ready to be recycled, but if others can use them, all the better.
>>

>
>Best to reuse than to recycle.
>
>Recycling is still costly, but getting better. The idea is still in
>its infancy in the everyday world and it will get better. We can't just
>dig holes in the ground and toss stuff into them. A couple of centuries
>ago, people used to toss stuff out the kitchen window. In some old
>cities, they did archeological digs behind houses built in the 1700's.
>All sorts of household items were found.
>
>The packaging industry is getting smarter too, but will take a long time
>to evolve to 100% reusable or recyclable materials. Edible coffee cups
>are on the way though.


Very few people will buy edible coffee cups. Most items are
compostible, some can be recyclable, few are reusable and then still
need to be compostable. Paper products compost easily, plastics are
the problem. I've been composting for some 70 years, since I was a
child... my grand parents taught me about composting. Metals
(steel/aluminum) are the most reusable, glass doesn't harm the
environment, it's esentually sand... but plastics are the biggest
offender and not much can be done about it, most of the polution from
plastics is in their production. The best people can do is to use
less plastics. Most clothing today is plastic (synthetics), I buy
only cottons/linens.
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> On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:33:48 -0500, Nancy Young
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>> Where I live, just about everything is mandatory recycling, at least
>> it seems that way. Cardboard, mixed paper (which is everything from
>> junk mail to magazines to tissue boxes). Plastic bottles, buckets,
>> glass, aluminum. Metal, electronics, newspaper. Leaves. It's too
>> expensive to send all that stuff to the landfills and we actually
>> save money by recycling.


> My city actually started basic recycling in the early 80s when there
> wasn't much talk about it. Now, if you are doing it right, only real
> garbage goes in the green bag. There are compostables, cardboard,
> paperboard, paper, bottles, plastics you name it, all have to be
> separated.


We had a similar trajectory. In the 80s there were drop off
points for cans and bottles, and you could bring newspapers to
the recycle yard. Wasn't mandatory at first. I would save newspapers
to bring but the place is on the other side of my (large) town. If
I didn't have a reason to be near there, it seemed counter-productive
to burn gas to save the environment.

We've gotten to the point where we have good compliance because
they pick up most everything twice a month. What a treat compared
to how they used to pick up. Comingled recyclables, it's separated
at some plant somewhere. They can't make it much easier.

> Some people in houses still fling everything in the green bags and
> they are talking of making clear bags mandatory so they cannot do it
> anymore, they will be fined.


Some people just refuse to get with the program. No pun intended.
(laugh) Refuse, get it?

> Electronics have to be delivered to
> special collection points, paints to another etc etc.


Exactly the same here.

> Not complaining, personally I feel better about it.


I try to do my part, for what it's worth.

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>>> I try to do my part, for what it's worth.

>
>> Someone said we fool ourselves about recycling - I don't think so.

>
> Well, I've reduced, I try to reuse, but still there's cardboard
> (true even if you shop in a store), and I'm not giving up my
> newspapers and magazines. So unless someone who's whining
> about us fooling ourselves has some workable solution, my town
> makes money selling the stuff I recycle. Or they don't spend so
> much to dispose of it.
>
>> More of us here do it and that meant the city had to smarten up and
>> cope and find places to send it all. If the city wasn't really
>> serious, it sure came back to bite them

>
> It must be working as they have been expanding the scope of the
> project every year. Perhaps the story is different in places that
> have an abundance of landfill space.
>
>> We have sorters of blue bags too, quite an industry employing some
>> otherwise rather unemployable people, so that's a good thing too.

>
> I watched a show that went behind the scenes at one of those places.
> San Francisco, I think. It really was astonishing.


We have to pay for those plastic bags that supermarkets used to give free.
10p each I think. I rarely go without my own shopping bags anyway so it
hasn't affected me yet.

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> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> Well, I've reduced, I try to reuse, but still there's cardboard
>> (true even if you shop in a store), and I'm not giving up my
>> newspapers and magazines.


> We have to pay for those plastic bags that supermarkets used to give
> free. 10p each I think. I rarely go without my own shopping bags anyway
> so it hasn't affected me yet.


I reuse those and if I wind up with too many, the supermarkets are
required to take them back for recycling. I don't know how
worthwhile that is in the scheme of things.

Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.

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>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

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>>> Well, I've reduced, I try to reuse, but still there's cardboard
>>> (true even if you shop in a store), and I'm not giving up my
>>> newspapers and magazines.

>
>> We have to pay for those plastic bags that supermarkets used to give
>> free. 10p each I think. I rarely go without my own shopping bags anyway
>> so it hasn't affected me yet.

>
> I reuse those and if I wind up with too many, the supermarkets are
> required to take them back for recycling. I don't know how
> worthwhile that is in the scheme of things.
>
> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.


Do you have to pay for them?


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> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.

>
> Do you have to pay for them?


Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.

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>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

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>>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.

>>
>> Do you have to pay for them?

>
> Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
> Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
> so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.


This is a fairly new thing for us. We do get store points for each of our
own bags we use but that isn't new.


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On 2015-03-02 12:14 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 3/2/2015 11:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>
>>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.

>>
>> Do you have to pay for them?

>
> Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
> Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
> so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.
>


A number of years ago the city of Toronto imposed a 5 cent per bag
charge and it sort of spread across the province unofficial. Stores
everywhere else followed suit. The started selling reusable bags cheap.
From what I understand, the city dropped the requirement but stores
kept charging... until recently. A couple local grocery stores had free
bags but the chains charged. I prefer the reusable bags. I can get a lot
more in one of them than on those skimpy plastic things so I can usually
get all my purchases in to 2-3 of them rather than a dozen smaller bags.
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>On 3/2/2015 11:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>
>>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.

>>
>> Do you have to pay for them?

>
>Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
>Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
>so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.


Here the stores give paper or plastic, no charge... they'd have a hard
time charging since each is printed with their advertising, having to
pay for their advertising adds insult to injury. I reuse the plastic
bags; cat litter. Since I don't get nearly enough from shopping I
buy those bags in cartons of 1,000 for about $9 at BJs... I double and
triple the bags, I don't need the bottom to drop out.
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>>On 3/2/2015 11:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>>
>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>>
>>>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>>>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.
>>>
>>> Do you have to pay for them?

>>
>>Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
>>Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
>>so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.

>
> Here the stores give paper or plastic, no charge... they'd have a hard
> time charging since each is printed with their advertising, having to
> pay for their advertising adds insult to injury. I reuse the plastic
> bags; cat litter. Since I don't get nearly enough from shopping I
> buy those bags in cartons of 1,000 for about $9 at BJs... I double and
> triple the bags, I don't need the bottom to drop out.


It is not the shops choice to charge for those bags, it is a government
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On 3/2/2015 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-03-02 12:14 PM, Nancy Young wrote:


>> Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
>> Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
>> so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.


> A number of years ago the city of Toronto imposed a 5 cent per bag
> charge and it sort of spread across the province unofficial. Stores
> everywhere else followed suit.


Yeah, it's a win win for them, I bet.

> They started selling reusable bags cheap.


Same here, you can get a nice bag for a dollar. Very sturdy.

> From what I understand, the city dropped the requirement but stores
> kept charging... until recently. A couple local grocery stores had free
> bags but the chains charged. I prefer the reusable bags. I can get a lot
> more in one of them than on those skimpy plastic things so I can usually
> get all my purchases in to 2-3 of them rather than a dozen smaller bags.


So true. I can carry a ton of stuff in one of those. The trick
is to get them back into the car and from the car into the store.

I got a pop up bag from Costco a couple of months ago. It would
fill a cart if I brought it into the store and I could sling my
whole shopping order over one shoulder. It's amazing how much you
could carry like that.

Before anyone asks, pop up bags fold flat but have a frame that
pops up and stays open. It's great to even put your plastic bags
of groceries into, no more escaped apples rolling around the car.
Similar to this, if not identical:

http://www.amazon.com/Pop-Up-Organiz.../dp/B00AZMUMC4

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>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 12:14:01 -0500, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 3/2/2015 11:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>>>>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have to pay for them?
>>>
>>>Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
>>>Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
>>>so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.

>>
>> Here the stores give paper or plastic, no charge... they'd have a hard
>> time charging since each is printed with their advertising, having to
>> pay for their advertising adds insult to injury. I reuse the plastic
>> bags; cat litter. Since I don't get nearly enough from shopping I
>> buy those bags in cartons of 1,000 for about $9 at BJs... I double and
>> triple the bags, I don't need the bottom to drop out.

>
>It is not the shops choice to charge for those bags, it is a government
>thing to cut down on plastic.


Here the grubbermint has more pressing matters to oversee than plastic
bags... I know for a fact that much of separated trash ends up all
mixed back together and buried in landfills... it costs too much to
reuse many types of trash, the private sector won't take the loss and
the grubbermint hasn't the know how. Some items are reused when
profitable but most are not. It's mostly the metals that are recycled
at a profit but most of the plastic can't be recycled without taking a
loss. A while ago glass bottles were ground up, blended with asphalt,
and used as paving material, but after much testing there was no
advantage over using the traditional crushed stone. I think most
plastic bags do get reused, I know I reuse them and I know many who
also reuse plastic bags for used cat litter. And before I reuse them
for cat litter I use those plastic bags for a temporary usage for
foods rather than zip locs, so they save using more costly heavier
plastic.
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> On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 12:14:01 -0500, Nancy Young
> > wrote:


>> Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.


> Here the stores give paper or plastic, no charge... they'd have a hard
> time charging since each is printed with their advertising, having to
> pay for their advertising adds insult to injury. I reuse the plastic
> bags; cat litter.


Ditto, and a couple other things.

> Since I don't get nearly enough from shopping I
> buy those bags in cartons of 1,000 for about $9 at BJs... I double and
> triple the bags, I don't need the bottom to drop out.


The bags from my local store are really flimsy, but having one
cat, they're good enough for that purpose.

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>>On 2015-03-02 12:14 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 3/2/2015 11:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>>>>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have to pay for them?
>>>
>>> Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
>>> Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
>>> so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.
>>>

>>
>>A number of years ago the city of Toronto imposed a 5 cent per bag
>>charge and it sort of spread across the province unofficial. Stores
>>everywhere else followed suit. The started selling reusable bags cheap.
>> From what I understand, the city dropped the requirement but stores
>>kept charging... until recently. A couple local grocery stores had free
>>bags but the chains charged. I prefer the reusable bags. I can get a lot
>>more in one of them than on those skimpy plastic things so I can usually
>>get all my purchases in to 2-3 of them rather than a dozen smaller bags.

>
> It was a joke here. Superstore started charging, with much fanfare
> and advertising but Sobeys didn't weigh in. After awhile Superstore
> quietly quit charging - too funny.


The way our shops got round it is to charge 20p for a stronger plastic bag,
and when it wears out you can exchange it for a new one. You only have to
buy the first one.

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> On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 21:15:17 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 12:42:46 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2015-03-02 12:14 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>> On 3/2/2015 11:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>>>>>>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have to pay for them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
>>>>> Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
>>>>> so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A number of years ago the city of Toronto imposed a 5 cent per bag
>>>>charge and it sort of spread across the province unofficial. Stores
>>>>everywhere else followed suit. The started selling reusable bags cheap.
>>>> From what I understand, the city dropped the requirement but stores
>>>>kept charging... until recently. A couple local grocery stores had free
>>>>bags but the chains charged. I prefer the reusable bags. I can get a lot
>>>>more in one of them than on those skimpy plastic things so I can usually
>>>>get all my purchases in to 2-3 of them rather than a dozen smaller bags.
>>>
>>> It was a joke here. Superstore started charging, with much fanfare
>>> and advertising but Sobeys didn't weigh in. After awhile Superstore
>>> quietly quit charging - too funny.

>>
>>The way our shops got round it is to charge 20p for a stronger plastic
>>bag,
>>and when it wears out you can exchange it for a new one. You only have to
>>buy the first one.

>
> Not such a bad idea. I hate them when they get caught in trees. Looks
> so terrible and they last almost forever. Unhappily one got caught a
> couple of years ago in the tree opposite my condo. Our wonderful
> superintendent (though he laughed at me) managed somehow to get it and
> pull it down
>
> The other evil one are those plastic whatevers that hold six cans of
> pop together. They get chucked out and once I found a gull on the
> beach killed by getting its head stuck in one of the holes. I now
> take scissors and cut every join so if mine fetches up at sea, it will
> not harm anyone.


Yes, it is very important to do that before they are thrown away.



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> > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-03-02 12:14 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 3/2/2015 11:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>>>>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have to pay for them?
>>>
>>> Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
>>> Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
>>> so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.
>>>

>>
>> A number of years ago the city of Toronto imposed a 5 cent per bag
>> charge and it sort of spread across the province unofficial. Stores
>> everywhere else followed suit. The started selling reusable bags cheap.
>> From what I understand, the city dropped the requirement but stores
>> kept charging... until recently. A couple local grocery stores had free
>> bags but the chains charged. I prefer the reusable bags. I can get a lot
>> more in one of them than on those skimpy plastic things so I can usually
>> get all my purchases in to 2-3 of them rather than a dozen smaller bags.

>
> It was a joke here. Superstore started charging, with much fanfare
> and advertising but Sobeys didn't weigh in. After awhile Superstore
> quietly quit charging - too funny.
>

Really? They still charge here!
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> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
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>> On 3/2/2015 10:50 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>>
>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>>
>>>> Well, I've reduced, I try to reuse, but still there's cardboard
>>>> (true even if you shop in a store), and I'm not giving up my
>>>> newspapers and magazines.

>>
>>> We have to pay for those plastic bags that supermarkets used to give
>>> free. 10p each I think. I rarely go without my own shopping bags anyway
>>> so it hasn't affected me yet.

>>
>> I reuse those and if I wind up with too many, the supermarkets are
>> required to take them back for recycling. I don't know how
>> worthwhile that is in the scheme of things.
>>
>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.

>
> Do you have to pay for them?


Our stores here will sometimes have a promotion where you can get a free
bag. If you played your cards right when Fred Meyer was giving them away,
you probably could have gotten a lot of them if you had been willing to go
back, again and again, buying only one bag's worth of stuff at once. I did
get one free bag but they are not my favorite kind. They are the cheap
fabric ones that can't feasibly be washed very often because they will fall
apart when you try. I prefer the sturdy, plastic ones that can be hosed out
in the sink.

Albertson's once had a "Pay it forward" campaign where they asked each
shopper to buy a bag for the person behind them. The person ahead of me did
buy me a bag which they tried to force me to take. I did not want the bag.
I told them to give it to the person behind me. They still tried to force
me to take the bag and buy another for the person behind me. Again, not the
kind of bag that I liked and I already had plenty of that kind.

But... Many of the stores will give you a discount for bringing your own
bags. Most give you 5 cents per bag. One store used to give back 30 cents
per bag or at least that is how some would ring it up. Now they have
changed and give you 30 cents back no matter how few or many bags you use.

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>> On 3/2/2015 11:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>>
>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>>
>>>> Of course, it would be nice if I'd bring a couple of reusable
>>>> bags to cut down on the quantity I use. I'm off and on with that.
>>>
>>> Do you have to pay for them?

>>
>> Not where I live, no. Plastic or paper are still free.
>> Some stores give you money for each reusable bag you bring,
>> so in a sense, getting a store bag costs you.

>
> This is a fairly new thing for us. We do get store points for each of our
> own bags we use but that isn't new.


And what do the store points get you? One store here used to have a program
where you got $5 off your next order when you got so many points. But they
quit doing that. And in the old days, some stores offered some sort of
dinner such as turkey, ham or lasagna when you got so many point. Some
stores give a discount on gas with points. And Fred Meyer or QFC give you
coupons for free things or cents/dollars off based on your points.

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> Edible coffee cups are on the way though.


They exist now.
http://www.thedailymeal.com/news/eat...hocolate/22515

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