On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 11:08:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:30:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have gotten spoiled produce at Costco. I will never buy onions or
>>>>> potatoes there again even though they are cheap. Much of the other
>>>>> things
>>>>> they sell comes in far too large of a quantity for me.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to be the only one on this ng who consistently manages to
>>>> find subpar or spoiled vegetables. The rest of us don't have that
>>>> problem.
>>>
>>> I can choose my veg from open boxes so I can feel if they are good. Do
>>> all your veg come ready packed?
>>>
>> To varying degrees depending on the market.
>
>I think I would stay away from those places. I like to choose what I get.
>We do have ready packed too but I prefer to see/feel what I am getting.

That's most women. hehe

Julie Bove wrote:
>
>The ones that I bought at Costco were potatoes and onions in large bags.
>You couldn't see all of them. Just the onions at the outside and the
>potatoes at the top. The spoiled ones were in the middle.

With onions and potatoes it's easy to tell their condition by sniffing
the bag... you can't see their condition, you don't need to, but you
sure can smell when they're off, even if only one is spoiled, and then
that's a good indication the're all ready to go off. Typically when
produce is sold off season and it's on sale it's going to be old
storage produce, especially true of onions and potatoes. Off season
is when I'd rather buy onions and potatoes loose, they're not much
more expensive and with the ones on sale if you have to toss some then
those cost more, plus of those still usable they are not very good
quality. During months when potatoes and onions are from storage I'll
buy a few of the loose sweet onions and red bliss potatoes for salads
but for soups and stews I'll use dehys.

On 2/1/2015 12:00 PM, sf wrote:
> I'm not advocating packaged vegetables, which is something I hate but
> put up with in certain stores. In fact, Trader Joe's is the only
> store where I buy them frequently because I can trust the quality.
> What I don't like is being forced to by 4 zucchini when I only wanted
> two.

It bothered me when they started doing that at Publix. I wanted 2
zucchini, two yellow squash. They were shrink-wrapped in packages of
four or six squash. I don't need that many! The new Publix offers both
loose and pre-wrapped.

Jill

On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 11:55:07 AM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 11:08:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
> > I like to choose what I get.
> > We do have ready packed too but I prefer to see/feel what I am getting.
>
> That's most women. hehe

And also the men in the showers aboard ship.

--Bryan

On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 12:21:52 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >The ones that I bought at Costco were potatoes and onions in large bags.
> >You couldn't see all of them. Just the onions at the outside and the
> >potatoes at the top. The spoiled ones were in the middle.
>
> With onions and potatoes it's easy to tell their condition by sniffing
> the bag... you can't see their condition, you don't need to, but you
> sure can smell when they're off, even if only one is spoiled, and then
> that's a good indication the're all ready to go off. Typically when
> produce is sold off season and it's on sale it's going to be old
> storage produce, especially true of onions and potatoes. Off season
> is when I'd rather buy onions and potatoes loose, they're not much
> more expensive and with the ones on sale if you have to toss some then
> those cost more, plus of those still usable they are not very good
> quality. During months when potatoes and onions are from storage I'll
> buy a few of the loose sweet onions and red bliss potatoes for salads
> but for soups and stews I'll use dehys.

Exactly. Sniff them for corn's sake. Julie has all the common sense of a fruit fly.

On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 11:19:27 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> > needs, I'll shop for vegetables elsewhere next time.
>
> Bin? How deep is this 'bin'? Our 'bins' are around 4 inches deep.
>
> Oh and I don't use 'paws' I use my hands.

You and Julie are two peas in a pod. Both obtuse shitheads.

wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 12:21:54 PM UTC-8, wrote:
>> > Steve wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:05:11 -0800 (PST),
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Sqwertz wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:42:43 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> http://www.thedailymeal.com/americas... aign=January
>> > > >>
>> > > >> They used Twitter and Facebook to solicit votes from the grocery
>> > > >> store's fans and followers. You can't **** up a scientific survey
>> > > >> more monumentally than that!
>> > > >
>> > > > You've been TROLLED again, Steve ...
>> > >
>> > > What ever would I do without a flaming drag queen there to point out
>> > > my shortcomings? Thank you, Greg!
>> >
>> >
>> > Be glad that I've little time to "devote" to you, Steve, as your shortcomings are *many*...in any case I am delighted to oblige you!
>> >
>>
>> greg m: what is your drag name?
>
>
> "Sqwertz"
>
>
> and were you part of the group
>> knocked off facebook.
>
>
> I wasn't, but Steve Sqwertz *was* ...

it was because he wouldn't trim his posts, wasn't it?

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:43:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:30:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I have gotten spoiled produce at Costco. I will never buy onions or
>>> >> potatoes there again even though they are cheap. Much of the other
>>> >> things
>>> >> they sell comes in far too large of a quantity for me.
>>> >
>>> > You seem to be the only one on this ng who consistently manages to
>>> > find subpar or spoiled vegetables. The rest of us don't have that
>>> > problem.
>>>
>>> I can choose my veg from open boxes so I can feel if they are good. Do
>>> all
>>> your veg come ready packed?
>>
>> Mostly no, but some do. Fortunately, those that come prepacked are
>> excellent quality where I shop. I certainly don't mind buying
>> packaged lettuce because there's a huge variety of mixes that isn't
>> available when they are sold loose. I prefer Trader Joe's packaged
>> lettuce mixes over Safeway because Safeway's is too wet and needs to
>> be used immediately or taken out and dried. I'm not willing to do
>> either. I also don't mind buying broccoli and cauliflower by the
>> package because the packages are crown only and pieces are the size
>> I'd be cutting the crowns into if I bought them whole.
>>
>> I wouldn't buy my produce from a store where I needed to paw the
>> produce to figure out if they were still good or not.
>
> First the eyes then the hands. Don't you wash your veg when you get them
> home? Even in ready packed someone has handled them and I doubt those
> field workers hands are too clean.

The bagged salad has most likely been washed and bagged by machine.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 11:09:54 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:43:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:30:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I have gotten spoiled produce at Costco. I will never buy onions
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> potatoes there again even though they are cheap. Much of the other
>> >> >> things
>> >> >> they sell comes in far too large of a quantity for me.
>> >> >
>> >> > You seem to be the only one on this ng who consistently manages to
>> >> > find subpar or spoiled vegetables. The rest of us don't have that
>> >> > problem.
>> >>
>> >> I can choose my veg from open boxes so I can feel if they are good.
>> >> Do
>> >> all
>> >> your veg come ready packed?
>> >
>> > Mostly no, but some do. Fortunately, those that come prepacked are
>> > excellent quality where I shop. I certainly don't mind buying
>> > packaged lettuce because there's a huge variety of mixes that isn't
>> > available when they are sold loose. I prefer Trader Joe's packaged
>> > lettuce mixes over Safeway because Safeway's is too wet and needs to
>> > be used immediately or taken out and dried. I'm not willing to do
>> > either. I also don't mind buying broccoli and cauliflower by the
>> > package because the packages are crown only and pieces are the size
>> > I'd be cutting the crowns into if I bought them whole.
>> >
>> > I wouldn't buy my produce from a store where I needed to paw the
>> > produce to figure out if they were still good or not.
>>
>> First the eyes then the hands. Don't you wash your veg when you get them
>> home? Even in ready packed someone has handled them and I doubt those
>> field
>> workers hands are too clean.
>
> Not sure why you're changing the subject but vegetables have been
> washed. Packaged vegetables have been triple washed. It's up to you
> to wash them or not, just like it is with loose vegetables.
>
> I'm not advocating packaged vegetables, which is something I hate but
> put up with in certain stores. In fact, Trader Joe's is the only
> store where I buy them frequently because I can trust the quality.
> What I don't like is being forced to by 4 zucchini when I only wanted
> two.
>
> What I'm saying about loose vegetables in a bin is if the quality is
> so bad that I need to paw through the bin to find the few that suit my
> needs, I'll shop for vegetables elsewhere next time.

You wouldn't buy produce anywhere here then!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 11:09:54 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:43:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:30:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> >> > > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> I have gotten spoiled produce at Costco. I will never buy onions
>>> >> >> or
>>> >> >> potatoes there again even though they are cheap. Much of the
>>> >> >> other
>>> >> >> things
>>> >> >> they sell comes in far too large of a quantity for me.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > You seem to be the only one on this ng who consistently manages to
>>> >> > find subpar or spoiled vegetables. The rest of us don't have that
>>> >> > problem.
>>> >>
>>> >> I can choose my veg from open boxes so I can feel if they are good.
>>> >> Do
>>> >> all
>>> >> your veg come ready packed?
>>> >
>>> > Mostly no, but some do. Fortunately, those that come prepacked are
>>> > excellent quality where I shop. I certainly don't mind buying
>>> > packaged lettuce because there's a huge variety of mixes that isn't
>>> > available when they are sold loose. I prefer Trader Joe's packaged
>>> > lettuce mixes over Safeway because Safeway's is too wet and needs to
>>> > be used immediately or taken out and dried. I'm not willing to do
>>> > either. I also don't mind buying broccoli and cauliflower by the
>>> > package because the packages are crown only and pieces are the size
>>> > I'd be cutting the crowns into if I bought them whole.
>>> >
>>> > I wouldn't buy my produce from a store where I needed to paw the
>>> > produce to figure out if they were still good or not.
>>>
>>> First the eyes then the hands. Don't you wash your veg when you get
>>> them
>>> home? Even in ready packed someone has handled them and I doubt those
>>> field
>>> workers hands are too clean.
>>
>> Not sure why you're changing the subject
>
> ??? *sigh* if I did (did I?) you joined in. I seem to remember
> someone complaining about vegetables ...
>
>
>
> but vegetables have been
>> washed. Packaged vegetables have been triple washed. It's up to you
>> to wash them or not, just like it is with loose vegetables.
>>
>> I'm not advocating packaged vegetables, which is something I hate but
>> put up with in certain stores. In fact, Trader Joe's is the only
>> store where I buy them frequently because I can trust the quality.
>> What I don't like is being forced to by 4 zucchini when I only wanted
>> two.
>>
>> What I'm saying about loose vegetables in a bin is if the quality is
>> so bad that I need to paw through the bin to find the few that suit my
>> needs, I'll shop for vegetables elsewhere next time.
>
> Bin? How deep is this 'bin'? Our 'bins' are around 4 inches deep.
>
> Oh and I don't use 'paws' I use my hands.

Our produce displays can be very deep. If you want green peppers, there
could be hundreds of them in the bin. Or there could be less.

On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 3:24:55 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > First the eyes then the hands. Don't you wash your veg when you get them
> > home? Even in ready packed someone has handled them and I doubt those
> > field workers hands are too clean.
>
> The bagged salad has most likely been washed and bagged by machine.

Gee, do ya think? You two make a regular Algonquin Round Table. <derisive snort>

On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:25:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .

>> What I'm saying about loose vegetables in a bin is if the quality is
>> so bad that I need to paw through the bin to find the few that suit my
>> needs, I'll shop for vegetables elsewhere next time.
>
>You wouldn't buy produce anywhere here then!

I feel kinda sorry for some of you people in the U.S. with all the
crappy produce. In the part of Ontario where I live, most of the
produce is lovely - even at this time of year when the temperature has
been close to zero degrees farenheit for about the last two weeks.

If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
like there's a lack of choice.

Doris

On 2/1/2015 5:32 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:25:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
>>> What I'm saying about loose vegetables in a bin is if the quality is
>>> so bad that I need to paw through the bin to find the few that suit my
>>> needs, I'll shop for vegetables elsewhere next time.
>>
>> You wouldn't buy produce anywhere here then!
>
> I feel kinda sorry for some of you people in the U.S. with all the
> crappy produce. In the part of Ontario where I live, most of the
> produce is lovely - even at this time of year when the temperature has
> been close to zero degrees farenheit for about the last two weeks.
>
> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
> like there's a lack of choice.
>
> Doris
>
No need to feel sorry for us, Doris. Julie does not speak for the
majority. I never have problems finding good produce. If I want to buy
something not locally grown at farm stands I can always find produce
trucked in from Florida. Then again, I'm not buying huge bags of things
at a time.

Jill

On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 4:57:05 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> No need to feel sorry for us, Doris. Julie does not speak for the
> majority. I never have problems finding good produce. If I want to buy
> something not locally grown at farm stands I can always find produce
> trucked in from Florida. Then again, I'm not buying huge bags of things
> at a time.

The same here. We have plenty of affordable, fresh produce. In the summer there is the garden and the farmer's market, too.

On 2015-02-01 17:32, Doris Night wrote:

> I feel kinda sorry for some of you people in the U.S. with all the
> crappy produce. In the part of Ontario where I live, most of the
> produce is lovely - even at this time of year when the temperature has
> been close to zero degrees farenheit for about the last two weeks.
>
> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
> like there's a lack of choice.


Funny. I live in Ontario too, and at this time of year the fresh produce
is from southern US states, Mexico or South America.

On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-8, tert in seattle wrote:
> wrote:
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 12:21:54 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> >> > Steve wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:05:11 -0800 (PST),
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Sqwertz wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:42:43 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> http://www.thedailymeal.com/americas... aign=January
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> They used Twitter and Facebook to solicit votes from the grocery
> >> > > >> store's fans and followers. You can't **** up a scientific survey
> >> > > >> more monumentally than that!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You've been TROLLED again, Steve ...
> >> > >
> >> > > What ever would I do without a flaming drag queen there to point out
> >> > > my shortcomings? Thank you, Greg!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Be glad that I've little time to "devote" to you, Steve, as your shortcomings are *many*...in any case I am delighted to oblige you!
> >> >
> >>
> >> greg m: what is your drag name?
> >
> >
> > "Sqwertz"
> >
> >
> > and were you part of the group
> >> knocked off facebook.
> >
> >
> > I wasn't, but Steve Sqwertz *was* ...
>
> it was because he wouldn't trim his posts, wasn't it?

greg vs. greg
Net nanny or net ninny?

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:25:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>
>>> What I'm saying about loose vegetables in a bin is if the quality is
>>> so bad that I need to paw through the bin to find the few that suit my
>>> needs, I'll shop for vegetables elsewhere next time.
>>
>>You wouldn't buy produce anywhere here then!
>
> I feel kinda sorry for some of you people in the U.S. with all the
> crappy produce. In the part of Ontario where I live, most of the
> produce is lovely - even at this time of year when the temperature has
> been close to zero degrees farenheit for about the last two weeks.
>
> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
> like there's a lack of choice.

Cape Cod was the worst. I never ate salad in the winter there. Nothing was
fresh.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/1/2015 5:32 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:25:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>
>>>> What I'm saying about loose vegetables in a bin is if the quality is
>>>> so bad that I need to paw through the bin to find the few that suit my
>>>> needs, I'll shop for vegetables elsewhere next time.
>>>
>>> You wouldn't buy produce anywhere here then!
>>
>> I feel kinda sorry for some of you people in the U.S. with all the
>> crappy produce. In the part of Ontario where I live, most of the
>> produce is lovely - even at this time of year when the temperature has
>> been close to zero degrees farenheit for about the last two weeks.
>>
>> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
>> like there's a lack of choice.
>>
>> Doris
>>
> No need to feel sorry for us, Doris. Julie does not speak for the
> majority. I never have problems finding good produce. If I want to buy
> something not locally grown at farm stands I can always find produce
> trucked in from Florida. Then again, I'm not buying huge bags of things
> at a time.

You also don't live in an area that gets cold, or eat salad.

On 2/1/2015 8:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2/1/2015 5:32 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:25:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>
>>>>> What I'm saying about loose vegetables in a bin is if the quality is
>>>>> so bad that I need to paw through the bin to find the few that suit my
>>>>> needs, I'll shop for vegetables elsewhere next time.
>>>>
>>>> You wouldn't buy produce anywhere here then!
>>>
>>> I feel kinda sorry for some of you people in the U.S. with all the
>>> crappy produce. In the part of Ontario where I live, most of the
>>> produce is lovely - even at this time of year when the temperature has
>>> been close to zero degrees farenheit for about the last two weeks.
>>>
>>> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
>>> like there's a lack of choice.
>>>
>>> Doris
>>>
>> No need to feel sorry for us, Doris. Julie does not speak for the
>> majority. I never have problems finding good produce. If I want to
>> buy something not locally grown at farm stands I can always find
>> produce trucked in from Florida. Then again, I'm not buying huge bags
>> of things at a time.
>
> You also don't live in an area that gets cold, or eat salad.

LOLOL So what if I don't eat salad? I'm not even sure what your
definition of salad *is* unless it includes canned beans. I happen to
love a salad of fresh spinach just warmed and tossed with slivers of
sauteed garlic and a sprinkling of simple oil & vinegar. Oh wait, you
*hate* garlic.

People who live in areas that get cold can certainly still buy good
produce year round. I guess you've never heard of the trucking
industry. Way back when in some book you may have read, surely someone
mentioned railroads. Ever heard of a warehouse?

Jill

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2/1/2015 5:32 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:25:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>
>>>>> What I'm saying about loose vegetables in a bin is if the quality is
>>>>> so bad that I need to paw through the bin to find the few that suit my
>>>>> needs, I'll shop for vegetables elsewhere next time.
>>>>
>>>> You wouldn't buy produce anywhere here then!
>>>
>>> I feel kinda sorry for some of you people in the U.S. with all the
>>> crappy produce. In the part of Ontario where I live, most of the
>>> produce is lovely - even at this time of year when the temperature has
>>> been close to zero degrees farenheit for about the last two weeks.
>>>
>>> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
>>> like there's a lack of choice.
>>>
>>> Doris
>>>
>> No need to feel sorry for us, Doris. Julie does not speak for the >
>> majority. I never have problems finding good produce. If I want to buy
>> > something not locally grown at farm stands I can always find produce >
>>> trucked in from Florida. Then again, I'm not buying huge bags of things > at a time.
>
> You also don't live in an area that gets cold, or eat salad.

I live in a far colder place than you, and have zero troubles buying fresh
produce even in the dead of winter.
--
jinx the minx

On Sun, 01 Feb 2015 17:32:17 -0500, Doris Night
> wrote:

> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
> like there's a lack of choice.

Honestly, I don't think produce in the area where she lives is even
remotely as bad as she represents it to be.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

jinx the minx wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> > You also don't live in an area that gets cold, or eat salad.
>
> I live in a far colder place than you, and have zero troubles buying fresh
> produce even in the dead of winter.

And Cape Cod is not some God-forsaken little fishing village outpost.
That is prime property out there and many rich people own much of the
land. I've surfed out there many times and you can always find premo
food there, in restaurants and grocery stores.

jinx the minx wrote:
>Bove wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>Doris Night wrote:
>>>>Bove wrote:
>>>>> "sf" wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> What I'm saying about loose vegetables in a bin is if the quality is
>>>>>> so bad that I need to paw through the bin to find the few that suit my
>>>>>> needs, I'll shop for vegetables elsewhere next time.

And fat ass sf lives where more produce is grown than anywhere else on
the planet... don't believe her.

>>>>> You wouldn't buy produce anywhere here then!

Bove, you live on canned iceberg.

>>>> I feel kinda sorry for some of you people in the U.S. with all the
>>>> crappy produce. In the part of Ontario where I live, most of the
>>>> produce is lovely - even at this time of year when the temperature has
>>>> been close to zero degrees farenheit for about the last two weeks.
>>>>
>>>> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
>>>> like there's a lack of choice.
>>>>
>>>> Doris

Don't believe those freaks with grotesque eating habits.

>>> No need to feel sorry for us, Doris. Julie does not speak for the >
>>> majority. I never have problems finding good produce. If I want to buy
>>> > something not locally grown at farm stands I can always find produce >
>>>> trucked in from Florida. Then again, I'm not buying huge bags of things > at a time.
>>
>> You also don't live in an area that gets cold, or eat salad.
>
>I live in a far colder place than you, and have zero troubles buying fresh
>produce even in the dead of winter.

Long cold winters here yet I've no problem finding quality produce at
various local markets... of course I'm not going to buy peaches and
apricots in dead of winter, but apples and pears are spectacular this
time of year. The one simple rule is to examine what you place in
your cart... I see many people pick up whatever is on top and never
even look at it. I see lots of people buy meat exactly the same way.
Lot's of people shop like they're comatose

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Cape Cod was the worst. I never ate salad in the winter there. Nothing was
> fresh.

That's just not true. You evidently didn't look around for fresh
veggies. You went to the commissary and they sold crap so now you say
the entire area didn't sell fresh. nonsense.

On 2015-02-02, jinx the minx > wrote:

> I live in a far colder place than you, and have zero troubles buying fresh
> produce even in the dead of winter.

Likewise. Jes bought some great Anjou pears and some SA blueberries.
Made a blueberry pie, last night. Yes, it's Winter. Yes, we get
plenty o' produce from all over. Even orgnic.

nb

On 2015-02-01 22:05, sf wrote:

>> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
>> like there's a lack of choice.
>
> Honestly, I don't think produce in the area where she lives is even
> remotely as bad as she represents it to be.
>
I don't think much of what she reports here reflects anything in the
real world.

On 2/2/2015 3:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-02-01 22:05, sf wrote:
>
>>> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
>>> like there's a lack of choice.
>>
>> Honestly, I don't think produce in the area where she lives is even
>> remotely as bad as she represents it to be.
>>
> I don't think much of what she reports here reflects anything in the
> real world.

The problem, as I see it, is she buys things in quantity then wonders
why it spoils. Just because Costco sells 10 lb bags of onions (or
potatoes) doesn't mean she *has* to buy the 10 lb bag.

Jill

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:36:36 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 2/2/2015 3:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2015-02-01 22:05, sf wrote:
> >
> >>> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
> >>> like there's a lack of choice.
> >>
> >> Honestly, I don't think produce in the area where she lives is even
> >> remotely as bad as she represents it to be.
> >>
> > I don't think much of what she reports here reflects anything in the
> > real world.
>
> The problem, as I see it, is she buys things in quantity then wonders
> why it spoils. Just because Costco sells 10 lb bags of onions (or
> potatoes) doesn't mean she *has* to buy the 10 lb bag.
>
That's precisely why we don't buy much produce at Costco. There's
only so much I *want* to eat within a certain time frame. Their
quantities are fine for small businesses, like caterers, people who
are having a big party or maybe sharing, but not for me.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:45:33 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:36:36 -0500, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>> On 2/2/2015 3:26 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > On 2015-02-01 22:05, sf wrote:
>> >
>> >>> If certain things don't look very good, I buy something else. It's not
>> >>> like there's a lack of choice.
>> >>
>> >> Honestly, I don't think produce in the area where she lives is even
>> >> remotely as bad as she represents it to be.
>> >>
>> > I don't think much of what she reports here reflects anything in the
>> > real world.
>>
>> The problem, as I see it, is she buys things in quantity then wonders
>> why it spoils. Just because Costco sells 10 lb bags of onions (or
>> potatoes) doesn't mean she *has* to buy the 10 lb bag.
>>
>That's precisely why we don't buy much produce at Costco.

I'll buy sacks of spuds at BJs, they sell 8 lb sacks of Green Giant
chefs potatoes, an 8 lb sack contains 7 perfect spuds, all giants,
wonderful for all uses. But I won't buy their 10 lb sacks of onions,
too many for me to use up before they begin to rot. However I'll buy
their 10 lb sacks of carrots at $7 because I feed the deer and at that
price they are a bargain... when I make the trip I'll buy four sacks
of carrots, deer gotta eat. Tonight there's a good 2' of fresh snow
on the ground, the older does are looking for handouts so I oblige.
It's 13ºF now and dropping fast, should go well into the minuses
tonight... I'm well prepared.
Birds are fed too:
http://i59.tinypic.com/25qvwx5.jpg
Plenty snow:
http://i60.tinypic.com/23r8lkl.jpg
Driveway plowed:
http://i62.tinypic.com/xo07c9.jpg
All ready for the next dump:
http://i61.tinypic.com/2rfd5bm.jpg

tert in seattle wrote:

> wrote:
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 12:21:54 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> >> > Steve wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:05:11 -0800 (PST),
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Sqwertz wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:42:43 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> http://www.thedailymeal.com/americas... aign=January
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> They used Twitter and Facebook to solicit votes from the grocery
> >> > > >> store's fans and followers. You can't **** up a scientific survey
> >> > > >> more monumentally than that!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You've been TROLLED again, Steve ...
> >> > >
> >> > > What ever would I do without a flaming drag queen there to point out
> >> > > my shortcomings? Thank you, Greg!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Be glad that I've little time to "devote" to you, Steve, as your shortcomings are *many*...in any case I am delighted to oblige you!
> >> >
> >>
> >> greg m: what is your drag name?
> >
> >
> > "Sqwertz"
> >
> >
> > and were you part of the group
> >> knocked off facebook.
> >
> >
> > I wasn't, but Steve Sqwertz *was* ...
>
> it was because he wouldn't trim his posts, wasn't it?


Things are much more polite in *chi ...


--
Best
Greg

Steve wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:35:46 -0800 (PST),
> wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 12:21:54 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> >>> Steve wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:05:11 -0800 (PST),
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Sqwertz wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:42:43 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> http://www.thedailymeal.com/americas... aign=January
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> They used Twitter and Facebook to solicit votes from the grocery
> >>> > >> store's fans and followers. You can't **** up a scientific survey
> >>> > >> more monumentally than that!
> >>> > >
> >>> > > You've been TROLLED again, Steve ...
> >>> >
> >>> > What ever would I do without a flaming drag queen there to point out
> >>> > my shortcomings? Thank you, Greg!
> >>>
> >>> Be glad that I've little time to "devote" to you, Steve, as your shortcomings are *many*...in any case I am delighted to oblige you!
> >>
> >> greg m: what is your drag name?
> >
> > "Sqwertz"
>
> So every time you get all gussied up in your bar-hopping best you're
> devoted to me. Nice! But I would have through you'd choose the name
> "Miss Kitty".
>
> What *is* the feminine form of "Gregory" - Georgia?


Do you have any pets, Steve...???


--
Best
Greg

+1 to Miss Kitty's post.

N.

On 2/1/2015 7:16 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> People who live in areas that get cold can certainly still buy good
> produce year round. I guess you've never heard of the trucking
> industry.

All produce is not the same, just like all meat is not the same. It
comes in grades, and the stuff that's nearing its end of life is sold
cheaper by the wholesalers. My immediate neighborhood has two
warehouse-style grocery stores. Unfortunately, these warehouse-style
supermarkets are the most popular type hereabouts because they cater
to shoppers looking for the lowest prices. That means they sell the
absolute bottom of the barrel produce with the shortest shelf life
that they get the cheapest from their wholesalers, in order to brag
that their customers can save a few dollars off their total grocery
bill. . Same goes for meats. I wouldn't take the warehouse-store meats
if they were given to me.

In the few months we have for local harvests, I have no problem
finding high quality produce anywhere. But if I want to purchase good
produce in the winter months. I have to drive further, to either
Costco, Trader Joes, or to one of the upscale grocery stores.

wrote:
> tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 12:21:54 PM UTC-8, wrote:
>> >> > Steve wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:05:11 -0800 (PST),
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Sqwertz wrote:

>> >> > > >> more monumentally than that!
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > You've been TROLLED again, Steve ...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > What ever would I do without a flaming drag queen there to point out
>> >> > > my shortcomings? Thank you, Greg!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Be glad that I've little time to "devote" to you, Steve, as your shortcomings are *many*...in any case I am delighted to oblige you!
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> greg m: what is your drag name?
>> >
>> >
>> > "Sqwertz"
>> >
>> >
>> > and were you part of the group
>> >> knocked off facebook.
>> >
>> >
>> > I wasn't, but Steve Sqwertz *was* ...
>>
>> it was because he wouldn't trim his posts, wasn't it?
>
>
> Things are much more polite in *chi ...

*chi is a caring place

Moe DeLoughan wrote:
>
>All produce is not the same, just like all meat is not the same. It
>comes in grades, and the stuff that's nearing its end of life is sold
>cheaper by the wholesalers. My immediate neighborhood has two
>warehouse-style grocery stores. Unfortunately, these warehouse-style
>supermarkets are the most popular type hereabouts because they cater
>to shoppers looking for the lowest prices. That means they sell the
>absolute bottom of the barrel produce with the shortest shelf life
>that they get the cheapest from their wholesalers, in order to brag
>that their customers can save a few dollars off their total grocery
>bill. . Same goes for meats. I wouldn't take the warehouse-store meats
>if they were given to me.
>
>In the few months we have for local harvests, I have no problem
>finding high quality produce anywhere. But if I want to purchase good
>produce in the winter months. _I have to drive further_, to either
>Costco, Trader Joes, or to one of the _upscale grocery stores_.

Your premise is totally incorrect, the lower socieo economic locations
sell the poorest quality merchandise at the highest prices... and they
can because welfare schnucks like you _admittedly_ can't afford to
travel the few miles to stores in better locations... you need to move
from your ghetto to a better hood... get a job and get off the dole.

On 2015-02-03 9:42 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:

> All produce is not the same, just like all meat is not the same. It
> comes in grades, and the stuff that's nearing its end of life is sold
> cheaper by the wholesalers. My immediate neighborhood has two
> warehouse-style grocery stores. Unfortunately, these warehouse-style
> supermarkets are the most popular type hereabouts because they cater to
> shoppers looking for the lowest prices. That means they sell the
> absolute bottom of the barrel produce with the shortest shelf life that
> they get the cheapest from their wholesalers, in order to brag that
> their customers can save a few dollars off their total grocery bill. .


I buy most of my produce at a discount grocery store. There produce is
often better than the stuff at the more expensive stores. The only
things that look like they were rejected by the larger stores are their
read peppers. They aren't usually all the same size and shape. They tend
to me elongated and strangely contoured. They taste fine and I use them
chopped, so the shape makes no difference to me. Being half the price
makes them attractive.



> Same goes for meats. I wouldn't take the warehouse-store meats if they
> were given to me.

Nor would I.

>
> In the few months we have for local harvests, I have no problem finding
> high quality produce anywhere.

Thank goodness we have strawberries and asparagus growing locally. Both
can be purchased here out of service and are much better and cheaper at
that time of year, but they don't hold a candle to the fresh local stuff.

Sqwertz wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:03:26 -0800 (PST),
> wrote:
>
> > Do you have any pets, Steve...???
>
> I have you, Greg.


As Sheryl Rosen was wont to say:

{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGZ}}}}}}}}}}}}


--
Best
Greg

On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 7:02:06 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> tert in seattle wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 12:21:54 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> > >> > Steve wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:05:11 -0800 (PST),
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:42:43 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>> http://www.thedailymeal.com/americas... aign=January
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> They used Twitter and Facebook to solicit votes from the grocery
> > >> > > >> store's fans and followers. You can't **** up a scientific survey
> > >> > > >> more monumentally than that!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > You've been TROLLED again, Steve ...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > What ever would I do without a flaming drag queen there to point out
> > >> > > my shortcomings? Thank you, Greg!
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Be glad that I've little time to "devote" to you, Steve, as your shortcomings are *many*...in any case I am delighted to oblige you!
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> greg m: what is your drag name?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sqwertz"
> > >
> > >
> > > and were you part of the group
> > >> knocked off facebook.
> > >
> > >
> > > I wasn't, but Steve Sqwertz *was* ...
> >
> > it was because he wouldn't trim his posts, wasn't it?
>
>
> Things are much more polite in *chi ...
>
You should download my book on Feb. 14th, when it is going to be free.
http://www.amazon.com/Winters-Presen.../dp/B00QJPEI6M
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

--Bryan

On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 3:38:05 PM UTC-6, Miss Kitty wrote:
> On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 3:24:55 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > > First the eyes then the hands. Don't you wash your veg when you get them
> > > home? Even in ready packed someone has handled them and I doubt those
> > > field workers hands are too clean.
> >
> > The bagged salad has most likely been washed and bagged by machine.
>
> Gee, do ya think?
>
Besides, I bet they use Mexican machines to do the washing. American
machines won't do those jobs.

--Bryan

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:55:55 -0700, Janet B wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:02:59 -0800 (PST),
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 6:42:47 AM UTC-8, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>> http://www.thedailymeal.com/americas... aign=January
> >>
> >>I never saw such a ferkakte list. What criteria were used, where a
> >>Wegman's is next to an Aldi's? Further, the produce is wretched
> >>at both Trader Joe's and Costco. How can a supermarket be super
> >>with wretched produce?
> >
> > I buy as much produce as I can at my Costco because it is picture
> > perfect. It's beautiful, always clean and no blemishes. Trader Joe's
> > is a close second. It must be your stores.
>
> I think that was his Pussy Katz impression. Except that Katz spells
> it "fercocktah" (because it has to have a 'cock' in it).
>
He misses his brother's cock. He also prefers to shop at BJ's. He misses
those too. Poor Sheldon.
>
> -sw

--Bryan