Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/27/2015 11:41 AM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>
> > >
> > > The big snow starts after midnight. Expecting 24", maybe more.
> >
> > Several times in my life we got more than 24" and they didn't
> > arrest people for being on the street. This time the Sandinistas
> > declared marshall law and we got 7".
> >
>
> The state said no driving from 9PM yesterday. Opened it up at 2PM
> today. If you got caught, it was a $92 fine.

In NY City it was $300. And it's even more ludicrous because the snow was
only a few inches at that time. They wouldn't have pardoned anyone when the
forecast was proven wrong.

We had a blizzard once with almost 3 feet on the day before my brother's
wedding. During the storm we went out to dig out the cars and move them in
preparation for the next morning. These Sandinistas would have had the
wedding party arrested. The basis of their philosophy is that people can't
take care of themselves and make their own decisions.

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On 2015-01-28 9:06 AM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

> In NY City it was $300. And it's even more ludicrous because the snow was
> only a few inches at that time. They wouldn't have pardoned anyone when the
> forecast was proven wrong.

As it turned out, there was only a fraction of the amount of snow that
had been forecast. It was a good idea to be proactive.
>
> We had a blizzard once with almost 3 feet on the day before my brother's
> wedding. During the storm we went out to dig out the cars and move them in
> preparation for the next morning. These Sandinistas would have had the
> wedding party arrested. The basis of their philosophy is that people can't
> take care of themselves and make their own decisions.

Some people can't. It takes just a few of those to screw things up for
those who may have had a chance of getting through if the others had not
got stuck and blocked the roads for everyone else. The government has a
responsibility to keep roads clear enough for emergency vehicles to get
through.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-01-28 9:06 AM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>
> > In NY City it was $300. And it's even more ludicrous because the
> > snow was only a few inches at that time. They wouldn't have
> > pardoned anyone when the forecast was proven wrong.
>
> As it turned out, there was only a fraction of the amount of snow that
> had been forecast. It was a good idea to be proactive.
> >
> > We had a blizzard once with almost 3 feet on the day before my
> > brother's wedding. During the storm we went out to dig out the
> > cars and move them in preparation for the next morning. These
> > Sandinistas would have had the wedding party arrested. The basis
> > of their philosophy is that people can't take care of themselves
> > and make their own decisions.
>
> Some people can't. It takes just a few of those to screw things up for
> those who may have had a chance of getting through if the others had
> not got stuck and blocked the roads for everyone else. The government
> has a responsibility to keep roads clear enough for emergency
> vehicles to get through.

Some people can't make their own decisions, so no one can be permitted to do
so. That's a great campaign slogan. I wish you would run on that, but the
left never explicitely says what they really think in a political campaign.

You don't seem to understand that we've had _actual_ 24-36 inch snow
accumulation without punitive action, when people were less inclined to
tolerate being told that they don't know how to take care of themselves.

The only thing that _actually_ prevented anyone from getting anywhere,
including ambulances, was unions. That was in the storm of 3 or 4 years ago
when the NYC sanitation men were threatening strike and they flexed their
muscles by driving around in their trucks with the plows raised, and
paramedics had to pull stretchers over the snow like sleds.

So eliminating government unions, which even FDR refused to allow and didn't
exist until JFK, would save lives in the world of reality. Outlawing all
unions, as other forms of monopoly already have been, would have increased
our GDP by 60 trillion over the past century, but one thing at a time.

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This is the news we are receiving ...

Massachusetts, Connecticut and Long Island had 3 feet of snow and icy floods

Plenty more he

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sland-way.html


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On 1/28/2015 1:44 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> This is the news we are receiving ...
>
> Massachusetts, Connecticut and Long Island had 3 feet of snow and icy
> floods
>
> Plenty more he
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sland-way.html
>
>
>

You got better coverage than our paper here. They mentioned Auburn MA
getting 36". That is about 20 miles north of me, a palce I go to
frequently. We eded up with 26". I got the rest of my driveway and
cars cleared this moening.

I closed our work today too. A few people would not have made it and
the plowing was not completed yet. We have our own pickup with plow and
this was just too much to keep up with.

On 2015-01-28 2:58 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I closed our work today too. A few people would not have made it and
> the plowing was not completed yet. We have our own pickup with plow and
> this was just too much to keep up with.


Buffalo often gets that much and the the residents don't even blink.
When it gets up to 36" they think of it as a significant snowfall.

On 1/28/2015 2:58 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/28/2015 1:44 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> This is the news we are receiving ...
>>
>> Massachusetts, Connecticut and Long Island had 3 feet of snow and icy
>> floods
>>
>> Plenty more he
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sland-way.html
>>
>>
>
> You got better coverage than our paper here. They mentioned Auburn MA
> getting 36". That is about 20 miles north of me, a palce I go to
> frequently. We eded up with 26". I got the rest of my driveway and
> cars cleared this moening.
>
> I closed our work today too. A few people would not have made it and
> the plowing was not completed yet. We have our own pickup with plow and
> this was just too much to keep up with.

My occasional neighbors (they're seasonal residents) arrived in South
Carolina from wherever MA a couple of days ahead of the storm. It sure
sounds to me like they just didn't want to deal with it. Then again,
they're in their 80's.

Jill

On 1/28/2015 3:06 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> My occasional neighbors (they're seasonal residents) arrived in South
> Carolina from wherever MA a couple of days ahead of the storm. It sure
> sounds to me like they just didn't want to deal with it. Then again,
> they're in their 80's.
>
> Jill

Good for them. I have a 20' walk in front of the house from the
driveway, then a couple of steps to the door. It will take me 20
minutes to clear it. I figured if a kid going by wanted to do it, I'd
pay 20 bucks. Not easy work, but still a good hourly rate. A bit
later. there was a knock at the door. Two teenagers offered to shovel
it for me. I asked how much and they wanted $25 apiece. No thanks.
I'll do it later. I clear it for safety as we never use that door
anyway.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/28/2015 1:44 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> This is the news we are receiving ...
>>
>> Massachusetts, Connecticut and Long Island had 3 feet of snow and icy
>> floods
>>
>> Plenty more he
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sland-way.html
>>
>>
>>
>
> You got better coverage than our paper here. They mentioned Auburn MA
> getting 36". That is about 20 miles north of me, a palce I go to
> frequently. We eded up with 26". I got the rest of my driveway and cars
> cleared this moening.
>
> I closed our work today too. A few people would not have made it and the
> plowing was not completed yet. We have our own pickup with plow and this
> was just too much to keep up with.

Are you in one of the the affected areas mentioned in that report? The
pictures are horrific!

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On 1/28/2015 3:10 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/28/2015 1:44 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> This is the news we are receiving ...
>>>
>>> Massachusetts, Connecticut and Long Island had 3 feet of snow and icy
>>> floods
>>>
>>> Plenty more he
>>>
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sland-way.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You got better coverage than our paper here. They mentioned Auburn MA
>> getting 36". That is about 20 miles north of me, a palce I go to
>> frequently. We eded up with 26". I got the rest of my driveway and
>> cars cleared this moening.
>>
>> I closed our work today too. A few people would not have made it and
>> the plowing was not completed yet. We have our own pickup with plow
>> and this was just too much to keep up with.
>
> Are you in one of the the affected areas mentioned in that report? The
> pictures are horrific!
>

Just deep snow, no damage here.

Ophelia wrote:
> This is the news we are receiving ...
>
> Massachusetts, Connecticut and Long Island had 3 feet of snow and icy
> floods
>
> Plenty more he
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sland-way.html
>
>

We are inland, so we didn't get floods, although coastal areas did.

I can attest to having A LOT of snow. I was afraid we would not be
capable of shoveling what needed to be cleared, but somehow we did. I
was glad to see that I could shovel for 5+ hours straight and not have a
heart attack. I did vary my approaches whenever I got tired, and that
seemed to work.

Tomorrow, I will hack away at some of the peaks, widen some paths, etc.
because more snow is coming on Friday and again... I don't even want to
think about it.

I will say that at first I was alternating between a walkway and making
a path to my front birdfeeders. (Someone else made the path to the back
ones.) I could see that one of the front feeders was low and knew that
one of the back feeders must be on the verge of emptiness.

wrote:

> It was still snowing off and on yesterday, today is lovely but more
> forecast for tomorrow evening.
>
Yes. And here, more Sunday night and Monday.

On 2/1/2015 8:03 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 23:21:02 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It was still snowing off and on yesterday, today is lovely but more
>>> forecast for tomorrow evening.
>>>
>> Yes. And here, more Sunday night and Monday.
>
> I just heard that forecast - urrrggghh
>

Not just the amount, but the timing. Heaviest will be drive time in the
morning for us and will stop a couple of hours after the drive home. My
solution is to stay home tomorrow. I take a day a week off anyway so
tomorrow will be it.

wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 23:21:02 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It was still snowing off and on yesterday, today is lovely but more
>>> forecast for tomorrow evening.
>>>
>> Yes. And here, more Sunday night and Monday.
>
> I just heard that forecast - urrrggghh
>
Someone here said we were having snow from Saturday through Tuesday
(!!!), but that is not what I am hearing from other sources. Thank
goodness the snow tonight and tomorrow morning will only be 3 or so
inches. BUT good luck to everyone here who is experiencing all this snow.