On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
>canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
>precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
>traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
>but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it again.
>I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
>whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
>out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
>bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
>lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.

You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
favourites.)

Doris

On 12/17/2014 10:38 AM, Doris Night wrote:
>
> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
> favourites.)
>
> Doris
>
I certainly don't cook a turkey just because it's Thanksgiving. It's
not as if the tradition police are going to scold you for not having
turkey. If you don't like something, why force yourself to eat it?

Jill

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:38:25 -0500, Doris Night
> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
> >canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
> >precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
> >traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
> >but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it again.
> >I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
> >whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
> >out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
> >bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
> >lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.
>
> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
> favourites.)
>
Doris... you've just opened a can of worms with the mention of
chicken.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On 12/17/2014 12:49 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:38:25 -0500, Doris Night
> > wrote:
>
>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>> favourites.)
>>
> Doris... you've just opened a can of worms with the mention of
> chicken.
>
Oh yeah. She refuses to handle chicken. Prepping and cooking raw
chicken would be out of the question.

I honestly don't know anyone who *likes* handling raw chicken. One
could always wear food prep gloves. Me, I just wash my hands frequently.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/17/2014 12:49 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:38:25 -0500, Doris Night
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>> favourites.)
>>>
>> Doris... you've just opened a can of worms with the mention of
>> chicken.
>>
> Oh yeah. She refuses to handle chicken. Prepping and cooking raw chicken
> would be out of the question.
>
> I honestly don't know anyone who *likes* handling raw chicken. One could
> always wear food prep gloves. Me, I just wash my hands frequently.

None of us like chicken. Angela will eat it at some restaurants. I hate it
unless it is canned and only then because it doesn't really taste like
chicken to me. Husband will eat the canned in a salad. He isn't a chicken
lover either.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:38:25 -0500, Doris Night
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
>> >canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
>> >precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
>> >traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
>> >but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it
>> >again.
>> >I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
>> >whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as
>> >dried
>> >out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
>> >bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
>> >lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.
>>
>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>> favourites.)
>>
> Doris... you've just opened a can of worms with the mention of
> chicken.

Yes indeed. Why do people always presume that everyone else loves chicken?

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
>>canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
>>precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
>>traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
>>but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it
>>again.
>>I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
>>whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
>>out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
>>bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
>>lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.
>
> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
> favourites.)

Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so. At
least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Doris Night" > wrote in message
snip
>>
>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>> favourites.)
>
>Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so. At
>least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.

You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
Janet US

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Doris Night" > wrote in message
> snip
>>>
>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>> favourites.)
>>
>>Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>>Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so. At
>>least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
>
> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
> Janet US

No. I couldn't. I have no clue how to make the chicken so she would like
it and she hasn't ordered tacos in probably about a year. Plus nobody else
would eat chicken tacos. Although I do sometimes make individual meals,
this wouldn't be one of them.

On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> snip
>>>
>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>> favourites.)
>>
>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.

Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.

>> At
>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
>
Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.

> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
> Janet US
>
That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.

Jill

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:37:06 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> snip
>>>>
>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>>> favourites.)
>>>
>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.
>
>Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
>chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
>eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.
>
>>> At
>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
>>
>Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.
>
>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
>> Janet US
>>
>That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
>daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.

I think her daughter and her husband have developed a dislike for
*all* meat that she cooks. Precooked turkey, canned chicken, etc.
Hell, would you eat her food if you knew the provenance of her meat? I
certainly wouldn't

We've heard about her experiences with beef, turkey, and chicken. She
hasn't mentioned pork, veal, lamb, goat, goose, duck, game meats, or
any kind of fish or seafood. I wonder if she has ever cooked any of
these.

Doris

On 12/17/2014 11:14 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:37:06 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>>>> favourites.)
>>>>
>>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.
>>
>> Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
>> chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
>> eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.
>>
>>>> At
>>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
>>>
>> Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.
>>
>>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
>> daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.
>
> I think her daughter and her husband have developed a dislike for
> *all* meat that she cooks. Precooked turkey, canned chicken, etc.
> Hell, would you eat her food if you knew the provenance of her meat? I
> certainly wouldn't
>
No, I would not. Especially since she's also mentioned she cooks all
the meat she buys when she gets it home from the store. So she
pre-cooks her own meat if she doesn't buy it that way.
Sounds pretty disgusting to me.

> We've heard about her experiences with beef, turkey, and chicken. She
> hasn't mentioned pork, veal, lamb, goat, goose, duck, game meats, or
> any kind of fish or seafood. I wonder if she has ever cooked any of
> these.
>
> Doris
>
She has mentioned seafood. In the Christmas thread she said something
about having made a garlicky shrimp pasta. But it affects her husband's
gout so shrimp/seafood is out.

I seriously doubt she's eaten much (if any) game meats. Somehow I don't
see cooking lamb as part of her repertoire, either. Hmmm, she could
probably make some Mexican-style lamb. Goat might be more traditional,
though.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/17/2014 11:14 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:37:06 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>>> snip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>>>>> favourites.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens.
>>>>> So...
>>>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.
>>>
>>> Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
>>> chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
>>> eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.
>>>
>>>>> At
>>>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
>>>>
>>> Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.
>>>
>>>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
>>> daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.
>>
>> I think her daughter and her husband have developed a dislike for
>> *all* meat that she cooks. Precooked turkey, canned chicken, etc.
>> Hell, would you eat her food if you knew the provenance of her meat? I
>> certainly wouldn't
>>
> No, I would not. Especially since she's also mentioned she cooks all the
> meat she buys when she gets it home from the store. So she pre-cooks her
> own meat if she doesn't buy it that way.
> Sounds pretty disgusting to me.
>
>> We've heard about her experiences with beef, turkey, and chicken. She
>> hasn't mentioned pork, veal, lamb, goat, goose, duck, game meats, or
>> any kind of fish or seafood. I wonder if she has ever cooked any of
>> these.
>>
>> Doris
>>
> She has mentioned seafood. In the Christmas thread she said something
> about having made a garlicky shrimp pasta. But it affects her husband's
> gout so shrimp/seafood is out.
>
> I seriously doubt she's eaten much (if any) game meats. Somehow I don't
> see cooking lamb as part of her repertoire, either. Hmmm, she could
> probably make some Mexican-style lamb. Goat might be more traditional,
> though.

I have never eaten game meats nor would I. And I can't eat lamb. I do know
that they eat goat in Mexico. I'll pass. Beans are fine for me.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:37:06 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>>>> favourites.)
>>>>
>>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens.
>>>> So...
>>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.
>>
>>Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
>>chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
>>eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.
>>
>>>> At
>>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
>>>
>>Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.
>>
>>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her
>>daughter has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.
>
> I think her daughter and her husband have developed a dislike for
> *all* meat that she cooks. Precooked turkey, canned chicken, etc.
> Hell, would you eat her food if you knew the provenance of her meat? I
> certainly wouldn't

I bought the precooked turkey because I only wanted a small amount. I tried
to cook a boneless turkey breast once and we didn't like it. So I wasn't
going to try that again and this tasted perfectly fine to me.
>
> We've heard about her experiences with beef, turkey, and chicken. She
> hasn't mentioned pork, veal, lamb, goat, goose, duck, game meats, or
> any kind of fish or seafood. I wonder if she has ever cooked any of
> these.

No, and I won't. I do not like meat, plain and simple. I do have to eat
some because I can not have eggs or dairy and beans alone are just not
enough protein for me. We do all like bacon but that is really the only
pork that we like. Both husband and daughter love steaks. That's really
the only meat they like. Lamb is very expensive. I can't eat it and
husband won't. Daughter won't now that she knows what it is but she did
like it. Nobody here has any interest in game meats although husband has
eaten strange things made as jerky. He has also eaten alligator. I do tuna
salad and casserole once in a while and also fish and chips for them. They
do like it but I have to limit the fish and seafood because of husband's
gout.

Perhaps things like duck, goose and game meats are common where you are at.
They are not here and neither is veal. They are also expensive and I tend
not to do expensive. If I have to buy expensive meat, I'll buy steak
because I know they'll eat that.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/17/2014 4:55 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:56:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> snip
>>>>
>>>> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
>>>> it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
>>>> care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
>>>> favourites.)
>>>
>>> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
>>> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so.
>
> Good lord, Doris didn't say that. It wasn't a mandate you roast a
> chicken. It was a *suggestion* since you were complaining they wouldn't
> eat the turkey casserole you made with pre-cooked turkey.

I wasn't complaining and they wouldn't eat it because I made it with wild
rice which *they* don't eat! I can't tell you how many people here have
suggested roasted chicken to me over the years and that is one food that all
of us here flat out do not like.
>
>>> At
>>> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.
>>
> Obviously not all since they didn't want to eat your casserole.

Because they don't like wild rice! It has nothing to do with the turkey.
>
>> You could make those chicken tacos that your daughter loves.
>> Janet US
>>
> That would make too much sense. More likely, for some reason her daughter
> has developed a dislike for chicken tacos.

Tacos are not her favorite food but if she has to eat one she will choose
chicken.

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:56:45 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
> >>canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
> >>precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
> >>traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
> >>but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it
> >>again.
> >>I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
> >>whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
> >>out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
> >>bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
> >>lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.
> >
> > You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
> > it's traditional. You could do a couple of chickens instead. (I don't
> > care too much for turkey myself, but roasted chicken is one of my
> > favourites.)
>
> Oh that would make sense. Since we *really* don't like chickens. So...
> Roast them and then just throw them away? Right. I don't think so. At
> least turkey is something we will all eat once or twice a year.

Anybody ever tell you you're an ASS?

On 12/17/2014 9:38 AM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:17:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> It wasn't blah. I just prefer the flavors of Mexican food. I do like
>> canned vegetables and broth. I like this boxed gravy. And I bought
>> precooked turkey on purpose. None of us like turkey very much but it is
>> traditional to serve on Thanksgiving. So I bought enough for two meals
>> but... Husband and daughter didn't like it enough to want to eat it again.
>> I thought it was fine, for turkey. My mother would occasionally roast a
>> whole turkey and this tasted just like that except that it wasn't as dried
>> out as hers was. She really had a way of drying out all meat. I guess
>> bottom line is that we simply are not turkey lovers. We are all beef
>> lovers. That is the one meat that we do all like.
>
> You know, you don't HAVE to serve turkey for Thanksgiving just because
> it's traditional.

What?! And (temporarily) leave Julie with nothing to complain about?