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Wow. Two days ago it was 65F. Today it's almost 25 degrees below
freezing! I hadn't even got my cold weather gear out. It got so cold so fast, I keep turning up the thermostat and the digital thermometer keeps dropping. I think a very good time to do some baking. ![]() nb |
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On 2014-11-12 3:29 PM, notbob wrote:
> Wow. Two days ago it was 65F. Today it's almost 25 degrees below > freezing! > > I hadn't even got my cold weather gear out. It got so cold so fast, I > keep turning up the thermostat and the digital thermometer keeps > dropping. I think a very good time to do some baking. ![]() > Yesterday afternoon it was 15C here. We went to the Remembrance Day ceremony and I was aching to get away from there so I could enjoy the rest of the day. My son wanted me to meet him at the range. I wanted to go out of the motorcycle, thinking it might be the last day. Then I remembered my transport permit expires on the weekend and the club screwed up and forgot to renew it,so it would be the last nice day I could shoot for a while. I went to the range. It was +3 C this morning and dropped down to 2 by afternoon. It is going below freezing tonight. ;-( |
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![]() notbob wrote: > > Wow. Two days ago it was 65F. Today it's almost 25 degrees below > freezing! > > I hadn't even got my cold weather gear out. It got so cold so fast, I > keep turning up the thermostat and the digital thermometer keeps > dropping. I think a very good time to do some baking. ![]() > > nb Friggin' 31F this morning here in N. TX, and due to go down to 28F or so tonight. I'm NOT luvin' it. |
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:57:38 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote: > >Friggin' 31F this morning here in N. TX, and due to go down to 28F or so >tonight. I'm NOT luvin' it. Lost your CT roots? We've had a dozen morning like that so far. |
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On 11/12/2014 3:57 PM, Pete C. wrote:
> > notbob wrote: >> >> Wow. Two days ago it was 65F. Today it's almost 25 degrees below >> freezing! >> >> I hadn't even got my cold weather gear out. It got so cold so fast, I >> keep turning up the thermostat and the digital thermometer keeps >> dropping. I think a very good time to do some baking. ![]() >> >> nb > > Friggin' 31F this morning here in N. TX, and due to go down to 28F or so > tonight. I'm NOT luvin' it. It was 45 degrees this morning, in my corner of Houston, that is January weather. :-( Becca |
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![]() Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:57:38 -0500, "Pete C." > > wrote: > > > > >Friggin' 31F this morning here in N. TX, and due to go down to 28F or so > >tonight. I'm NOT luvin' it. > > Lost your CT roots? We've had a dozen morning like that so far. I left my CT roots in the trail of fire I left behind me when I bailed out ten years ago. I hated the cold my entire 34 years in CT too. |
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On 2014-11-12 5:33 PM, Pete C. wrote:
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >> On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:57:38 -0500, "Pete C." > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Friggin' 31F this morning here in N. TX, and due to go down to 28F or so >>> tonight. I'm NOT luvin' it. >> >> Lost your CT roots? We've had a dozen morning like that so far. > > I left my CT roots in the trail of fire I left behind me when I bailed > out ten years ago. I hated the cold my entire 34 years in CT too. > I worked outside for28 years. I don't know how I ever managed, November was exceptionally hard to deal with. The cold damp days of November were the worst and the hardest to deal with. It wasn't so bad in January and February when it is much colder, but then it tends to be brighter and you are more used to it... and Spring is closer. |
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:57:38 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote: > >notbob wrote: >> >> Wow. Two days ago it was 65F. Today it's almost 25 degrees below >> freezing! >> >> I hadn't even got my cold weather gear out. It got so cold so fast, I >> keep turning up the thermostat and the digital thermometer keeps >> dropping. I think a very good time to do some baking. ![]() >> >> nb > >Friggin' 31F this morning here in N. TX, and due to go down to 28F or so >tonight. I'm NOT luvin' it. It's been below freezing most mornings here for a couple weeks now... and soon will be down into the minuses... 20 below zero is mormal winter temps here. |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message ... > Wow. Two days ago it was 65F. Today it's almost 25 degrees below > freezing! > > I hadn't even got my cold weather gear out. It got so cold so fast, I > keep turning up the thermostat and the digital thermometer keeps > dropping. I think a very good time to do some baking. ![]() > > nb Yep. I think I need to put the heat up a bit. And I have to go outside. Have to go fuel up a car, do a little shopping and it's trash day. Brrr... |
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![]() Brooklyn1 wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:57:38 -0500, "Pete C." > > wrote: > > > > >notbob wrote: > >> > >> Wow. Two days ago it was 65F. Today it's almost 25 degrees below > >> freezing! > >> > >> I hadn't even got my cold weather gear out. It got so cold so fast, I > >> keep turning up the thermostat and the digital thermometer keeps > >> dropping. I think a very good time to do some baking. ![]() > >> > >> nb > > > >Friggin' 31F this morning here in N. TX, and due to go down to 28F or so > >tonight. I'm NOT luvin' it. > > It's been below freezing most mornings here for a couple weeks now... > and soon will be down into the minuses... 20 below zero is mormal > winter temps here. 50s-60s is normal here this time of year. We need to deport the "polar vortex" back to Canada. |
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On 2014-11-12, Dave Smith > wrote:
> February when it is much colder, but then it tends to be brighter and > you are more used to it... and Spring is closer. Boy, howdy! ![]() nb |
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On 11/12/2014 5:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > I worked outside for28 years. I don't know how I ever managed, November > was exceptionally hard to deal with. The cold damp days of November were > the worst and the hardest to deal with. It wasn't so bad in January and > February when it is much colder, but then it tends to be brighter and > you are more used to it... and Spring is closer. I envy people that get to work outside--maybe 10 days a year. The other 355 days I like climate control. |
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On 2014-11-12 22:09, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> I worked outside for28 years. I don't know how I ever managed, November >> was exceptionally hard to deal with. The cold damp days of November were >> the worst and the hardest to deal with. It wasn't so bad in January and >> February when it is much colder, but then it tends to be brighter and >> you are more used to it... and Spring is closer. > > I envy people that get to work outside--maybe 10 days a year. The other > 355 days I like climate control. You are pretty close. There might actually be 15-20 days when the weather is really nice for working. The rest of the time it is too hot, too cold, too windy or windy. What used to tick me off was when a supervisor working in a heated/air conditioned office would wonder why our productivity had dropped. They had no appreciation for what it was like to work in extreme heat or cold. |
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![]() Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > On 11/12/2014 5:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > > >> > > I worked outside for28 years. I don't know how I ever managed, November > > was exceptionally hard to deal with. The cold damp days of November were > > the worst and the hardest to deal with. It wasn't so bad in January and > > February when it is much colder, but then it tends to be brighter and > > you are more used to it... and Spring is closer. > > I envy people that get to work outside--maybe 10 days a year. The other > 355 days I like climate control. That's why I moved to Texas. Unlike CT with 10 days of good weather a year, Texas is about the opposite with about 10 crummy days a year. |
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On 11/13/2014 7:23 AM, Pete C. wrote:
> > Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> I envy people that get to work outside--maybe 10 days a year. The other >> 355 days I like climate control. > > That's why I moved to Texas. Unlike CT with 10 days of good weather a > year, Texas is about the opposite with about 10 crummy days a year. Depends on the person, if I lived in a hot climate I'd be in the a/c all the time. I don't enjoy that. nancy |
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![]() Nancy Young wrote: > > On 11/13/2014 7:23 AM, Pete C. wrote: > > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > >> I envy people that get to work outside--maybe 10 days a year. The other > >> 355 days I like climate control. > > > > That's why I moved to Texas. Unlike CT with 10 days of good weather a > > year, Texas is about the opposite with about 10 crummy days a year. > > Depends on the person, if I lived in a hot climate I'd be in > the a/c all the time. I don't enjoy that. > > nancy Texas isn't a hot climate either, but it is very large so there is variation in climate in different parts of Texas. Yes it gets to 106F in the peak of summer, but that is at like 20% humidity so it's fine, and those days are not the norm, most are upper 90s in the summer. In winter it gets cold, but mostly stays above freezing, only dipping below for perhaps 10-20 days a winter typically. I've seen single digit temps one or two days in a decade. The bulk of the year the weather here is very nice from the 60s - 90s. |
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On 2014-11-13 10:01 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> That's why I moved to Texas. Unlike CT with 10 days of good weather a >> year, Texas is about the opposite with about 10 crummy days a year. > > Depends on the person, if I lived in a hot climate I'd be in > the a/c all the time. I don't enjoy that. > My friends who moved to Texas frequently come back up here in the summer to escape the blistering heat. |
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On 2014-11-13, Dave Smith > wrote:
> They had no appreciation for what it was like to work in extreme > heat or cold. I think they do. I grew up in CA, a relatively warm state. Four days b4 I moved to CO, I moved funiture in 105F heat. No biggy. Now, 6 yrs later, I'm becoming more acclimatized to the cold and am downright exhausted by the heat. In the Summer I'm seeking relief when it hits 75F, but keep my Winter abode at 64-66F. OTOH, even the natives ran for cover when it dropped 60 degs almost overnight, here. Even colder, today. It was -10F at 8:00am. Guess where I'll be, today. ![]() nb |
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On 2014-11-13, Nancy Young > wrote:
> Depends on the person..... ....AND where they were raised! I usta handle 100+ temps in CA cuz it's dry heat. That and I grew up, there. How 2/3rds of the USoA can tolerate the level of humidity that is natural, is beyond me. I'll never live anywhere East of Denver. An ex-gf told me her sister moved from CA to back East, where they were both born and raised, cuz she could no longer tolerate the dryness. Hadda have some moisture in the air to "keep her skin from drying out". Me? I went swimming, a lot. ![]() nb |
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![]() Dave Smith wrote: > > On 2014-11-13 10:01 AM, Nancy Young wrote: > > >> That's why I moved to Texas. Unlike CT with 10 days of good weather a > >> year, Texas is about the opposite with about 10 crummy days a year. > > > > Depends on the person, if I lived in a hot climate I'd be in > > the a/c all the time. I don't enjoy that. > > > > My friends who moved to Texas frequently come back up here in the summer > to escape the blistering heat. Perhaps that's their problem, they don't stay to acclimate. I've not had a single summer day in the decade I've been here where I wanted to "escape" to a cooler place. |
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On 12 Nov 2014 20:29:06 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>Wow. Two days ago it was 65F. Today it's almost 25 degrees below >freezing! > >I hadn't even got my cold weather gear out. It got so cold so fast, I >keep turning up the thermostat and the digital thermometer keeps >dropping. I think a very good time to do some baking. ![]() > >nb Yes, Sir!!! mid-60sF and then 12F -- everything is crispy critters. It's snowing. This is January weather. Janet US |
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On 2014-11-13 10:25 AM, Pete C. wrote:
> > Texas isn't a hot climate either, but it is very large so there is > variation in climate in different parts of Texas. Yes it gets to 106F in > the peak of summer, but that is at like 20% humidity so it's fine, and > those days are not the norm, most are upper 90s in the summer. In winter > it gets cold, but mostly stays above freezing, only dipping below for > perhaps 10-20 days a winter typically. I've seen single digit temps one > or two days in a decade. The bulk of the year the weather here is very > nice from the 60s - 90s. > It is all relative to what you are used to. Around here people start to melt in the high 80s. If it gets into the 90s they call a heat alert. OTOH, cold is not a big deal until it gets down near 0 (F). FWIW... it is 0 C here now, and snowing. |
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On 2014-11-13 11:25 AM, Pete C. wrote:
>> >> My friends who moved to Texas frequently come back up here in the summer >> to escape the blistering heat. > > Perhaps that's their problem, they don't stay to acclimate. I've not had > a single summer day in the decade I've been here where I wanted to > "escape" to a cooler place. > I said they came back frequently, not annually. They were near San Antonio. One year when they came, mainly to escape the heat, he said it had been over 100 every day for more than a month. Their daughter was here last month. She was in her last year of high school when the family moved 37 years ago and lives near Austin. She still finds it unbearably hot and humid. The way many of us here look at it is that you can easily put on a warmer sweater, warmer gloves or hat, but that heat is hard to beat without AC. |
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![]() "Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > It is all relative to what you are used to. Around here people start to > melt in the high 80s. If it gets into the 90s they call a heat alert. > OTOH, cold is not a big deal until it gets down near 0 (F). > > FWIW... it is 0 C here now, and snowing. I would love to see some snow from inside my house. Cheri |
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![]() Cheri wrote: > > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > ... > > > It is all relative to what you are used to. Around here people start to > > melt in the high 80s. If it gets into the 90s they call a heat alert. > > OTOH, cold is not a big deal until it gets down near 0 (F). > > > > FWIW... it is 0 C here now, and snowing. > > I would love to see some snow from inside my house. Snow pictures on a postcard are plenty for me, but we do get snow here in N. TX. Just enough to laugh at then it's gone. In fact with this "polar vortex" here at the moment there is a threat of some snow flurries Sunday. |
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![]() Dave Smith wrote: > > On 2014-11-13 11:25 AM, Pete C. wrote: > > >> > >> My friends who moved to Texas frequently come back up here in the summer > >> to escape the blistering heat. > > > > Perhaps that's their problem, they don't stay to acclimate. I've not had > > a single summer day in the decade I've been here where I wanted to > > "escape" to a cooler place. > > > > I said they came back frequently, not annually. They were near San > Antonio. One year when they came, mainly to escape the heat, he said it > had been over 100 every day for more than a month. Their daughter was > here last month. She was in her last year of high school when the family > moved 37 years ago and lives near Austin. She still finds it unbearably > hot and humid. > The way many of us here look at it is that you can easily put on a > warmer sweater, warmer gloves or hat, but that heat is hard to beat > without AC. Dunno, I've been here a decade and not had any issues. Indeed my non A/C shop at 104F in the summer is still ok for me as long as I have a fan going. It only gets uncomfortable if I have to put on a jacket and whatnot to do some TIG welding which also means no fan since it would blow away the Argon shielding. In my house I have ceiling fans everywhere and typically set my A/C at 80F and am quite comfortable. It is far easier to acclimate to warmer climates than colder ones. |
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On Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:07:20 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-11-13 11:25 AM, Pete C. wrote: > > >> > >> My friends who moved to Texas frequently come back up here in the summer > >> to escape the blistering heat. > > > > Perhaps that's their problem, they don't stay to acclimate. I've not had > > a single summer day in the decade I've been here where I wanted to > > "escape" to a cooler place. > > > I I live between San Antonio, we usually have 2 seasons, hot and no so hot. This temp of 32 this am was a real unusual happening, especially in Nov! > > I said they came back frequently, not annually. They were near San > Antonio. One year when they came, mainly to escape the heat, he said it > had been over 100 every day for more than a month. Their daughter was > here last month. She was in her last year of high school when the family > moved 37 years ago and lives near Austin. She still finds it unbearably > hot and humid. > The way many of us here look at it is that you can easily put on a > warmer sweater, warmer gloves or hat, but that heat is hard to beat > without AC. ILive between San Antonio and Austin, generally we have two seasons, hot and not so hot. The morning temp of 32 today was unusual especially in November. |
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On 11/13/2014 10:22 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2014-11-13, > wrote: > >> It was the 'jaysus' - very Newfoundlander ![]() > > Ahh! Gotchya. > > Gotta be careful. Some ppl here get hacked off if you type "Xmas". > Tough crowd. > > nb > Won't matter soon. A town in CT is going to eliminate all holiday names Muslims were complaining that the Jews had off on their holidays and theirs ere not recognized. December 25, just another day off. . |
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![]() "Pete C." > wrote in message ... > > Cheri wrote: >> >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message >> ... >> >> > It is all relative to what you are used to. Around here people start to >> > melt in the high 80s. If it gets into the 90s they call a heat alert. >> > OTOH, cold is not a big deal until it gets down near 0 (F). >> > >> > FWIW... it is 0 C here now, and snowing. >> >> I would love to see some snow from inside my house. > > Snow pictures on a postcard are plenty for me, but we do get snow here > in N. TX. Just enough to laugh at then it's gone. In fact with this > "polar vortex" here at the moment there is a threat of some snow > flurries Sunday. Yes, I'm not interested in being in blizzards or having to dig out to get to work, but a few inches a few times a year would be nice. It's actually raining in CA, but it's over 60 degrees. I would like some cold weather now and then. Cheri |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:13:48 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 11/13/2014 10:22 AM, notbob wrote: > > On 2014-11-13, > wrote: > > > >> It was the 'jaysus' - very Newfoundlander ![]() > > > > Ahh! Gotchya. > > > > Gotta be careful. Some ppl here get hacked off if you type "Xmas". > > Tough crowd. > > > > nb > > > > Won't matter soon. A town in CT is going to eliminate all holiday names > Muslims were complaining that the Jews had off on their holidays and > theirs ere not recognized. December 25, just another day off. . Days off depend on how many recognize them and take them off anyway. NYC has lots of days off on Jewish holidays. San Francisco recognizes Chinese NY. No Ski Week here. Parents are too busy working. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On 2014-11-13 4:54 PM, sf wrote:
> >> Won't matter soon. A town in CT is going to eliminate all holiday names >> Muslims were complaining that the Jews had off on their holidays and >> theirs ere not recognized. December 25, just another day off. . > > Days off depend on how many recognize them and take them off anyway. > NYC has lots of days off on Jewish holidays. San Francisco recognizes > Chinese NY. No Ski Week here. Parents are too busy working. > Didn't they know what statutory holidays there were when they came here? |
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On 11/13/2014 1:21 PM, Pete C. wrote:
> > Cheri wrote: >> >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>> It is all relative to what you are used to. Around here people start to >>> melt in the high 80s. If it gets into the 90s they call a heat alert. >>> OTOH, cold is not a big deal until it gets down near 0 (F). >>> >>> FWIW... it is 0 C here now, and snowing. >> >> I would love to see some snow from inside my house. > > Snow pictures on a postcard are plenty for me, but we do get snow here > in N. TX. Just enough to laugh at then it's gone. In fact with this > "polar vortex" here at the moment there is a threat of some snow > flurries Sunday. In Texas, the Dallas area has the worst weather, IMO. It gets cold enough during the winter to snow, then during the summer, temps can reach 105 degrees. It does not snow in the Houston area, and our hottest day last summer was 97 degrees. I love the heat, but I can't take the cold. Every winter when the weather turns cold, I threaten to move to Puerto Rico where it does not get cold, unfortunately, I do not speak Spanish. Becca |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:09:37 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: > On 2014-11-13 4:54 PM, sf wrote: > > > >> Won't matter soon. A town in CT is going to eliminate all holiday names > >> Muslims were complaining that the Jews had off on their holidays and > >> theirs ere not recognized. December 25, just another day off. . > > > > Days off depend on how many recognize them and take them off anyway. > > NYC has lots of days off on Jewish holidays. San Francisco recognizes > > Chinese NY. No Ski Week here. Parents are too busy working. > > > > > Didn't they know what statutory holidays there were when they came here? They are free to take their own religious holiday off, even if it means a lack of income for the day. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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![]() Becca EmaNymton wrote: > > On 11/13/2014 1:21 PM, Pete C. wrote: > > > > Cheri wrote: > >> > >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > >> ... > >> > >>> It is all relative to what you are used to. Around here people start to > >>> melt in the high 80s. If it gets into the 90s they call a heat alert. > >>> OTOH, cold is not a big deal until it gets down near 0 (F). > >>> > >>> FWIW... it is 0 C here now, and snowing. > >> > >> I would love to see some snow from inside my house. > > > > Snow pictures on a postcard are plenty for me, but we do get snow here > > in N. TX. Just enough to laugh at then it's gone. In fact with this > > "polar vortex" here at the moment there is a threat of some snow > > flurries Sunday. > > In Texas, the Dallas area has the worst weather, IMO. It gets cold > enough during the winter to snow, then during the summer, temps can > reach 105 degrees. > > It does not snow in the Houston area, and our hottest day last summer > was 97 degrees. I love the heat, but I can't take the cold. Every > winter when the weather turns cold, I threaten to move to Puerto Rico > where it does not get cold, unfortunately, I do not speak Spanish. > > Becca I was in Houston a few years back and it was 110F and about 90% humidity. |
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On 11/13/2014 4:43 PM, Pete C. wrote:
> > Becca EmaNymton wrote: >> >> On 11/13/2014 1:21 PM, Pete C. wrote: >>> >>> Cheri wrote: >>>> >>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> It is all relative to what you are used to. Around here people start to >>>>> melt in the high 80s. If it gets into the 90s they call a heat alert. >>>>> OTOH, cold is not a big deal until it gets down near 0 (F). >>>>> >>>>> FWIW... it is 0 C here now, and snowing. >>>> >>>> I would love to see some snow from inside my house. >>> >>> Snow pictures on a postcard are plenty for me, but we do get snow here >>> in N. TX. Just enough to laugh at then it's gone. In fact with this >>> "polar vortex" here at the moment there is a threat of some snow >>> flurries Sunday. >> >> In Texas, the Dallas area has the worst weather, IMO. It gets cold >> enough during the winter to snow, then during the summer, temps can >> reach 105 degrees. >> >> It does not snow in the Houston area, and our hottest day last summer >> was 97 degrees. I love the heat, but I can't take the cold. Every >> winter when the weather turns cold, I threaten to move to Puerto Rico >> where it does not get cold, unfortunately, I do not speak Spanish. >> >> Becca > > I was in Houston a few years back and it was 110F and about 90% > humidity. Pete, please feel free to go to weatherunderground.com, and show me the dates when the weather was that hot in Houston, because I can not find it. weatherunderground.com keeps weather history, so it should not be too hard to find. There might be other places that record weather history, but I have not looked, I usually go to weatherunderground. It is perfect for people who travel. We lived in Shreveport for 5 years, which had temperatures similar to Dallas, and I could not handle the weather. There are people who love having 4 seasons and they love it when it snows, but I am not one of those people, but my sister is. No matter where you live in North America there will be weather you do not like. I have not found the perfect spot yet, although I would be happy to hear about it. You have a wonderful evening, Pete, I am on my way to the kitchen to make burritos and a salad. Becca |
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On 11/13/2014 3:18 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > > Yes, I'm not interested in being in blizzards or having to dig out to > get to work, but a few inches a few times a year would be nice. It's > actually raining in CA, but it's over 60 degrees. I would like some cold > weather now and then. > > Cheri One biggie over the weekend followed by a week of cold weather, then back to 70 degrees the rest of the year. I don't mind a little winter, but it is getting longer every year as I get older. |
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Time for some cold weather food: chili, soup, pot roast, meat loaf,
chicken and dumplings ... Tara |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:23:03 -0800, The Other Guy wrote:
> And summer weather is horrible with sweat starting in early March, and > lasting thru Sept. or later. I deployed from San Antonio (Kelly AFB) to Riyadh back in the day. I remember thinking how much nicer the weather felt in Saudi Arabia than Texas. I didn't have sweat pouring off of me like in Texas. The reason? Saudi Arabia is freakin' arid! Sweat was pouring out of my body and immediately dehydrating. I was (of course) sweating worse under 125F conditions in Riyadh than a muggy 95F degree San Antonio day. Only in San Antonio the moisture hung around and you felt sweatier. My first day in Riyadh I go walking to the shoppette and start seeing white splotches in my vision before I got there. I barely made it and grabbed a water bottle from the cooler immediately inside the door, yelled to a teller that I would pay for it, and immediately chugged it down. "Those are free!" So, I had that going for me. And that's when I learned they really meant it. If the water waasn't leaving your body the same color it went in you weren't drinking enough. I had been in country less than 24 hours and simply hadn't learned yet that not being thirsty didn't mean you were properly hydrated. I learned to drink water all - the - time. -- -Jeff B. "Excuse me. I don't mean to impose, but I am the Ocean." ~ The Salton Sea |
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