Ever since my daughter was born, I have been trying to get her to eat
breakfast. But she just never wanted to. She does eat. Just not very
much. For the longest time she would only eat baby carrots. After that it
might be a piece of cheese or a pack of apples. Not unhealthy food. But if
I did actually cook something, it would go uneaten and I would eventually
get tossed out or maybe put in the freezer where she might find it and eat
it for dinner if she didn't like what I was fixing.

But I was explaining to her today that now that she has her own car, this
will free up a lot more of my time to cook. And since I have been cleaning
out things, I have some food that I am fixing to use up. Including some
whole wheat pancake mix and some eggs. Plus that little bit of excess bacon
that I still have.

So imagine my surprise when she said to me, "Well, since you're still up
when I get up... Why don't you make me breakfast?" I thought at first she
was joking. So I said, "You mean like pancakes or something?" And her eyes
lit up. Then I asked about eggs and bacon. And yes, she wants me to cook!

Now this might be a one time thing. I do intend to make extra pancakes
because I want to use up that mix and the eggs. The bacon is already
cooked. Just needs heated up and she only likes hers heated a little bit.

Now I just have to keep myself awake. Because of all the nonsense with the
garage door, I only got perhaps 2 hours of sleep and those were broken up
into bits and pieces. I am one of those people who does better to just stay
up and get no sleep than to try to get up and do something like cooking at
5:30 a.m.

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> Ever since my daughter was born, I have been trying to get her to eat
> breakfast. But she just never wanted to. She does eat. Just not very
> much. For the longest time she would only eat baby carrots. After that
> it might be a piece of cheese or a pack of apples. Not unhealthy food.
> But if I did actually cook something, it would go uneaten and I would
> eventually get tossed out or maybe put in the freezer where she might
> find it and eat it for dinner if she didn't like what I was fixing.
>
> But I was explaining to her today that now that she has her own car, this
> will free up a lot more of my time to cook. And since I have been
> cleaning out things, I have some food that I am fixing to use up.
> Including some whole wheat pancake mix and some eggs. Plus that little
> bit of excess bacon that I still have.
>
> So imagine my surprise when she said to me, "Well, since you're still up
> when I get up... Why don't you make me breakfast?" I thought at first
> she was joking. So I said, "You mean like pancakes or something?" And
> her eyes lit up. Then I asked about eggs and bacon. And yes, she wants me to cook!
>
> Now this might be a one time thing. I do intend to make extra pancakes
> because I want to use up that mix and the eggs. The bacon is already
> cooked. Just needs heated up and she only likes hers heated a little bit.
>
> Now I just have to keep myself awake. Because of all the nonsense with
> the garage door, I only got perhaps 2 hours of sleep and those were
> broken up into bits and pieces. I am one of those people who does better
> to just stay up and get no sleep than to try to get up and do something
> like cooking at 5:30 a.m.

Better order up some meth, it'll be a long night!

But seriously, cracking some eggs isn't rocket science. Make your batter
before bed - after all it's better after it has stood a few hours. And
pancakes are pretty easy as long as you are patient with letting the pan
heat up.

I think you can sleep easy.

"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> Ever since my daughter was born, I have been trying to get her to eat
>> breakfast. But she just never wanted to. She does eat. Just not very
>> much. For the longest time she would only eat baby carrots. After that
>> it might be a piece of cheese or a pack of apples. Not unhealthy food.
>> But if I did actually cook something, it would go uneaten and I would
>> eventually get tossed out or maybe put in the freezer where she might
>> find it and eat it for dinner if she didn't like what I was fixing.
>>
>> But I was explaining to her today that now that she has her own car, this
>> will free up a lot more of my time to cook. And since I have been
>> cleaning out things, I have some food that I am fixing to use up.
>> Including some whole wheat pancake mix and some eggs. Plus that little
>> bit of excess bacon that I still have.
>>
>> So imagine my surprise when she said to me, "Well, since you're still up
>> when I get up... Why don't you make me breakfast?" I thought at first
>> she was joking. So I said, "You mean like pancakes or something?" And
>> her eyes lit up. Then I asked about eggs and bacon. And yes, she wants
>> me to cook!
>>
>> Now this might be a one time thing. I do intend to make extra pancakes
>> because I want to use up that mix and the eggs. The bacon is already
>> cooked. Just needs heated up and she only likes hers heated a little
>> bit.
>>
>> Now I just have to keep myself awake. Because of all the nonsense with
>> the garage door, I only got perhaps 2 hours of sleep and those were
>> broken up into bits and pieces. I am one of those people who does better
>> to just stay up and get no sleep than to try to get up and do something
>> like cooking at 5:30 a.m.
>
> Better order up some meth, it'll be a long night!
>
> But seriously, cracking some eggs isn't rocket science. Make your batter
> before bed - after all it's better after it has stood a few hours. And
> pancakes are pretty easy as long as you are patient with letting the pan
> heat up.
>
> I think you can sleep easy.

You don't understand. I don't sleep at night. I am up all night already.
Sometimes I do get into bed just before she gets up.

And there is a reason don't cook eggs, dammit. I don't know what made me
think I could get away with it this time. I already made the pancakes and
now have an itchy rash all over my forearms. Grrr...

I haven't cooked a ton of eggs over the course of my life because I don't
care for them so much but I can make pancakes in my sleep. I used to cook
tons and freeze them.

On 2014-09-19 5:39 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> I haven't cooked a ton of eggs over the course of my life because I
> don't care for them so much but I can make pancakes in my sleep. I used
> to cook tons and freeze them.

Of course. Frozen pancakes are delicious. They are even better if you
put lots of syrup on them before freezing so they are well soaked and
make wonderful pancakecicles.

On Friday, September 19, 2014 4:39:20 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I already made the pancakes and
> now have an itchy rash all over my forearms. Grrr...
>
>
You stirred the pancake batter with your hands and sunk them in the bowl all the way up to your elbows???? That must have been one hell of a DEEP bowl. Normal people just use a spoon or a whisk to stir batter, they don't make it complicated like you did.

itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I already made the pancakes and
>> now have an itchy rash all over my forearms. Grrr...
>>
>You stirred the pancake batter with your hands and sunk them in the bowl
>all the way up to your elbows???? That must have been one hell of a DEEP bowl.
>Normal people just use a spoon or a whisk to stir batter, they don't make it
>complicated like you did.

And even though, why a rash from pancake batter... I wouldn't eat
those pancakes, they must be laced with poison ivy or worse, raw
sewage.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I already made the pancakes and
>>> now have an itchy rash all over my forearms. Grrr...
>>>
>>You stirred the pancake batter with your hands and sunk them in the bowl
>>all the way up to your elbows???? That must have been one hell of a DEEP
>>bowl.
>>Normal people just use a spoon or a whisk to stir batter, they don't make
>>it
>>complicated like you did.
>
> And even though, why a rash from pancake batter... I wouldn't eat
> those pancakes, they must be laced with poison ivy or worse, raw
> sewage.

Because I got some egg on me. I am highly intolerant to eggs.

When I cooked the scrambled eggs, I cracked them the way I normally do and
there was no problem. I did wash my hands right away after touching them.

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, September 19, 2014 4:39:20 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I already made the pancakes and
>> now have an itchy rash all over my forearms. Grrr...
>>
>>
> You stirred the pancake batter with your hands and sunk them in the bowl
> all the way up to your elbows???? That must have been one hell of a DEEP
> bowl. Normal people just use a spoon or a whisk to stir batter, they
> don't make it complicated like you did.

No but I foolishly attempted to crack the eggs on a flat surface which is
what the TV chefs now promote. The say if you crack at the edge of the
bowl, you'll get shell bits in it. But when I did what they said to do, the
egg splashed onto my cutting board and onto my arm. Never again.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> No but I foolishly attempted to crack the eggs on a flat surface which is
> what the TV chefs now promote. The say if you crack at the edge of the
> bowl, you'll get shell bits in it. But when I did what they said to do, the
> egg splashed onto my cutting board and onto my arm. Never again.

You're just physically challenged. I've been cracking them on a flat
surface recently (after I read that). It works just fine. Splashed
onto your arm? Dumbshit!

On 9/19/2014 6:46 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Friday, September 19, 2014 4:39:20 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I already made the pancakes and
>>> now have an itchy rash all over my forearms. Grrr...
>>>
>>>
>> You stirred the pancake batter with your hands and sunk them in the
>> bowl all the way up to your elbows???? That must have been one hell
>> of a DEEP bowl. Normal people just use a spoon or a whisk to stir
>> batter, they don't make it complicated like you did.
>
> No but I foolishly attempted to crack the eggs on a flat surface which
> is what the TV chefs now promote.

TV chefs. The only thing they're concerned about is self-promotion.

> The say if you crack at the edge of
> the bowl, you'll get shell bits in it.

Puleeeze... it is a rare occurrence. So what if a tiny bit of shell
gets in there? Don't want to touch the egg? Fish out that little bit
of shell with a spoon. You don't need a Ph.D. to figure that out.

Jill

On 9/19/2014 6:46 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> No but I foolishly attempted to crack the eggs on a flat surface which
> is what the TV chefs now promote. The say if you crack at the edge of
> the bowl, you'll get shell bits in it. But when I did what they said to
> do, the egg splashed onto my cutting board and onto my arm. Never again.

Tried the flat surface. Back to the edge of a pan or counter like I've
been doing for 60 years. No need to change now, never had a shell
problem. Maybe once every couple of years but not big deal.

On Friday, September 19, 2014 5:46:16 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
>
> >> I already made the pancakes and
> >> now have an itchy rash all over my forearms. Grrr...
>
>
> > You stirred the pancake batter with your hands and sunk them in the bowl
> > all the way up to your elbows????
>
>
> No but I foolishly attempted to crack the eggs on a flat surface which is
> what the TV chefs now promote. The say if you crack at the edge of the
> bowl, you'll get shell bits in it. But when I did what they said to do, the
> egg splashed onto my cutting board and onto my arm. Never again.
>
>
Don't slam the egg on the flat surface, just a good tap will do it, but I've never gotten shells into batter when I crack them on the side of the bowl.. If you've not gotten shells in your batter in the past by breaking them on the edge of the bowl, go back to that method. Some people even use the back of a dinner knife to break the egg.

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:46:16 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>No but I foolishly attempted to crack the eggs on a flat surface which is
>what the TV chefs now promote. The say if you crack at the edge of the
>bowl, you'll get shell bits in it. But when I did what they said to do, the
>egg splashed onto my cutting board and onto my arm. Never again.

Ended up in the ER again, did we? You must be one of those
thrill-seekers who love living on the edge all the time.

Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.

"Chemo" > wrote in message
...
> Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own
> breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.

She has no time. She has to get up at 5:30 the way it is and has an hour or
less to get out the door.

On Friday, September 19, 2014 3:48:16 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Chemo" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own
>
> > breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.
>
>
>
> She has no time. She has to get up at 5:30 the way it is and has an hour or
>
> less to get out the door.

A hour?! I can shit, shower, shave and still make something for breakfast. And feed the dog!! And...make my lunch!!

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Chemo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own
> > breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.
>
> She has no time. She has to get up at 5:30 the way it is and has an hour or
> less to get out the door.

She can get her lazy ass out of bed earlier if she wants breakfast
first. Are you for real? Signs point to - NO.

I get up at 4:30 or earlier every morning, work days or days off.

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:48:16 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Chemo" > wrote in message
...
>> Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own
>> breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.
>
>She has no time. She has to get up at 5:30 the way it is and has an hour or
>less to get out the door.

Clearly her getting up a bit earlier is a dumb idea. Right?

Chemo wrote:
>
> Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.

I can't believe they bought her a car as soon as she turned 16 and got
her driver's license. How many people here had that perk? Certainly
not me.

G.

On 2014-09-20 9:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> Chemo wrote:
>>
>> Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.
>
> I can't believe they bought her a car as soon as she turned 16 and got
> her driver's license. How many people here had that perk? Certainly
> not me.
>
True, but we can believe you.

On 9/20/2014 9:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> Chemo wrote:
>>
>> Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.
>
> I can't believe they bought her a car as soon as she turned 16 and got
> her driver's license. How many people here had that perk? Certainly
> not me.
>
> G.
>
I only remember one guy in HS whose parents gave him a car. But then,
he was a spoiled, indulged "jock" football player (who, AFAIK, did not
go on to some big football career). I had to work and buy my own car.
So did my brothers.

Not long ago she was extolling the fact her daughter learned how to make
scrambled eggs. How the f* long does that take? She might have to get
up 10 minutes earlier. Wow.

I'm surprised she hasn't trotted out the old "she has no interest in
cooking" chestnut. Nope, she expects someone to do *everything* for
her. Good luck with that when she finally gets out in the real world.

Jill

On 9/20/2014 9:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> Chemo wrote:
>>
>> Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.
>
> I can't believe they bought her a car as soon as she turned 16 and got
> her driver's license. How many people here had that perk? Certainly
> not me.
>
> G.
>

I was 17 but bought it with my own money. Paid my own insurance, etc.
My kids bought their own too.

On Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:57:34 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Chemo wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.
>
>
>
> I can't believe they bought her a car as soon as she turned 16 and got
>
> her driver's license. How many people here had that perk?
>
Julie wants her to get fatter and fatter. Walking burns off precious
calories that might otherwise be stored as fat.
>
> Certainly not me.
>
I didn't get a driver license until I was 22, and I drove a vehicle that
belonged to my parent exactly once, to take the driving test. I only did
it because at the time, Missouri did not have a motorcycle only license,
and I'd gotten a ticket for riding my mini bike on the street.
>
> G.

--Bryan

On 9/20/2014 9:57 AM, Gary wrote:

> Chemo wrote:
>>
>> Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.
>
> I can't believe they bought her a car as soon as she turned 16 and got
> her driver's license. How many people here had that perk? Certainly
> not me.
>
> G.
>
When I was 16 my husband and me shared a car.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:57:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Chemo wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own
>>> breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.
>>
>>I can't believe they bought her a car as soon as she turned 16 and got
>>her driver's license. How many people here had that perk? Certainly
>>not me.
>>
>>G.
>
> When I was eleven we were living in Tokyo and my father taught me to
> drive and bought me a Toyopet, I used it to drive my mother everywhere
> as she couldn't cope with Tokyo traffic but of course, at that age, I
> felt totally at ease The Japanese police were non-existent due
> the Occupation and the Military Police couldn't say anything because I
> was not American. So sometimes it happens

If you tried that here, police would haul you and your parents in,
regardless of your nationality.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:17:15 -0700 (PDT), Chemo
> wrote:

>Here's an idea.........teach her or just tell her to make her own breakfast. If she can drive a car she can cook.

This'll be good...

On Friday, September 19, 2014 2:33:41 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> Ever since my daughter was born, I have been trying to get her to eat
>
> breakfast. But she just never wanted to. She does eat. Just not very
>
> much.

She must more than make up for it at other times of day if those dance
pictures are real. You don't get a pickup truck sized spare tire like
that from starving yourself.

--Bryan

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> Ever since my daughter was born, I have been trying to get her to eat
> breakfast. But she just never wanted to. She does eat. Just not very
> much. For the longest time she would only eat baby carrots. After that
> it might be a piece of cheese or a pack of apples. Not unhealthy food.
> But if I did actually cook something, it would go uneaten and I would
> eventually get tossed out or maybe put in the freezer where she might
> find it and eat it for dinner if she didn't like what I was fixing.
>
> But I was explaining to her today that now that she has her own car, this
> will free up a lot more of my time to cook. And since I have been
> cleaning out things, I have some food that I am fixing to use up.
> Including some whole wheat pancake mix and some eggs. Plus that little
> bit of excess bacon that I still have.
>
> So imagine my surprise when she said to me, "Well, since you're still up
> when I get up... Why don't you make me breakfast?" I thought at first
> she was joking. So I said, "You mean like pancakes or something?" And
> her eyes lit up. Then I asked about eggs and bacon. And yes, she wants me to cook!
>


Sounds more like a command to make her breakfast than being asked. She
says jump, you ask how high.
--
jinx the minx

On 9/20/2014 12:41 PM, jinx the minx wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>> So imagine my surprise when she said to me, "Well, since you're still up
>> when I get up... Why don't you make me breakfast?" I thought at first
>> she was joking. So I said, "You mean like pancakes or something?" And
>> her eyes lit up. Then I asked about eggs and bacon. And yes, she wants me to cook!
>>
>
>
> Sounds more like a command to make her breakfast than being asked. She
> says jump, you ask how high.
>
That's pretty much it. Don't forget, this is the meal-on-demand family.

Not long ago she was waxing rhapsodic about how her daughter figured out
how to make scrambled eggs. To me, that means she can make her own
breakfast. The bacon is already cooked, she said so. So, reheat in the
microwave and scramble an egg or two. Can't take more than 5 minutes,
10 tops.

I can't wait to hear how her daughter ate those pancakes once then
suddenly refused to eat them again. Please stand by.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/20/2014 12:41 PM, jinx the minx wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>
>>> So imagine my surprise when she said to me, "Well, since you're still up
>>> when I get up... Why don't you make me breakfast?" I thought at first
>>> she was joking. So I said, "You mean like pancakes or something?" And
>>> her eyes lit up. Then I asked about eggs and bacon. And yes, she wants
>>> me to cook!
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds more like a command to make her breakfast than being asked. She
>> says jump, you ask how high.
>>
> That's pretty much it. Don't forget, this is the meal-on-demand family.
>
> Not long ago she was waxing rhapsodic about how her daughter figured out
> how to make scrambled eggs. To me, that means she can make her own
> breakfast. The bacon is already cooked, she said so. So, reheat in the
> microwave and scramble an egg or two. Can't take more than 5 minutes, 10
> tops.
>
> I can't wait to hear how her daughter ate those pancakes once then
> suddenly refused to eat them again. Please stand by.

Nope. She ate them and thanked me. The rest are in the freezer.

On 9/21/2014 12:28 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I can't wait to hear how her daughter ate those pancakes once then
>> suddenly refused to eat them again. Please stand by.
>
> Nope. She ate them and thanked me. The rest are in the freezer.

Trust me, when you reheat them she will refuse to eat them.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/21/2014 12:28 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> I can't wait to hear how her daughter ate those pancakes once then
>>> suddenly refused to eat them again. Please stand by.
>>
>> Nope. She ate them and thanked me. The rest are in the freezer.
>
> Trust me, when you reheat them she will refuse to eat them.

No. She has eaten them from the freezer before. It's just that she rarely
eats pancakes. She actually prefers to eat more healthy fare so I don't
offer them very often. I did have pancake mix to get rid of now though
so...

On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:41:37 +0000 (UTC), jinx the minx
> wrote:

>"Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> Ever since my daughter was born, I have been trying to get her to eat
>> breakfast. But she just never wanted to. She does eat. Just not very
>> much. For the longest time she would only eat baby carrots. After that
>> it might be a piece of cheese or a pack of apples. Not unhealthy food.
>> But if I did actually cook something, it would go uneaten and I would
>> eventually get tossed out or maybe put in the freezer where she might
>> find it and eat it for dinner if she didn't like what I was fixing.
>>
>> But I was explaining to her today that now that she has her own car, this
>> will free up a lot more of my time to cook. And since I have been
>> cleaning out things, I have some food that I am fixing to use up.
>> Including some whole wheat pancake mix and some eggs. Plus that little
>> bit of excess bacon that I still have.
>>
>> So imagine my surprise when she said to me, "Well, since you're still up
>> when I get up... Why don't you make me breakfast?" I thought at first
>> she was joking. So I said, "You mean like pancakes or something?" And
>> her eyes lit up. Then I asked about eggs and bacon. And yes, she wants me to cook!
>>
>
>
>Sounds more like a command to make her breakfast than being asked. She
>says jump, you ask how high.

Julie really knows how to best raise a child for life in the outside
world <rolls eyes>

"jinx the minx" > wrote in message
...

> Sounds more like a command to make her breakfast than being asked. She
> says jump, you ask how high.

Nope. I have wanted her to eat a real breakfast for all of her life but she
wouldn't do it. The best I could do was get her to eat a few bites of
something. So I don't mind making it at all. Particularly since she has to
get up so early now. Most of the time I am still up.