I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. This appears to be the same one
that I used to have but has a different spine on it. So it will take much
much less room in my closet. Whoever had it didn't appear to have used it at
all. Almost as good as new but the pages are a tad crispy from age.

I think this is going to work out well. I see many meat recipes that look
like they will work for us. I really didn't pay much attention to meat
recipes when I had it prior because I was a vegetarian then. I also see
some things that I had forgotten about like Buttons and Bows which is an
easy recipe for sweetened biscuits.

So... Very happy!

On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:57:55 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. Very happy!

Julie Bove Aug 21


Other recipients:
I don't use cookbooks.

"Thomas" > wrote in message

- show quoted text -
> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34:04 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Probably not.
>
> For future cooking, buy her a large cookbook and have her circle what she
> thinks she would like. Then you can have at it.


"I don't use cookbooks." Aug 21

"Thomas" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:57:55 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. Very happy!
>
> Julie Bove Aug 21
>
>
> Other recipients:
> I don't use cookbooks.
>
> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>
> - show quoted text -
>> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34:04 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> Probably not.
>>
>> For future cooking, buy her a large cookbook and have her circle what she
>> thinks she would like. Then you can have at it.
>
>
> "I don't use cookbooks." Aug 21

And normally I don't. But when I could not come up with the recipe that I
wanted online, I bought it. I do collect them you know. But most of my
recipes are gotten online these days.

Are you stalking me too?

On 9/18/2014 12:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Thomas" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:57:55 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. Very happy!
>>
>> Julie Bove Aug 21
>>
>>
>> Other recipients:
>> I don't use cookbooks.
>>
>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>>
>> - show quoted text -
>>> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34:04 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> Probably not.
>>>
>>> For future cooking, buy her a large cookbook and have her circle what
>>> she
>>> thinks she would like. Then you can have at it.
>>
>>
>> "I don't use cookbooks." Aug 21
>
> And normally I don't. But when I could not come up with the recipe that
> I wanted online, I bought it. I do collect them you know. But most of
> my recipes are gotten online these days.
>
> Are you stalking me too?

Yessss... everyone is stalking you. Feel free to waffle again.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/18/2014 12:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:57:55 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. Very happy!
>>>
>>> Julie Bove Aug 21
>>>
>>>
>>> Other recipients:
>>> I don't use cookbooks.
>>>
>>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> - show quoted text -
>>>> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34:04 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> Probably not.
>>>>
>>>> For future cooking, buy her a large cookbook and have her circle what
>>>> she
>>>> thinks she would like. Then you can have at it.
>>>
>>>
>>> "I don't use cookbooks." Aug 21
>>
>> And normally I don't. But when I could not come up with the recipe that
>> I wanted online, I bought it. I do collect them you know. But most of
>> my recipes are gotten online these days.
>>
>> Are you stalking me too?
>
> Yessss... everyone is stalking you. Feel free to waffle again.

I don't do waffles. Too many carbs!

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Thomas wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:57:55 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. Very happy!
>>
>> Julie Bove Aug 21
>>
>>
>> Other recipients:
>> I don't use cookbooks.
>
> But, but, it was on sale! And I got Swagbucks! So in my mind, I got
> paid more than it cost to buy it!

It was neither. Got it from Ebay.

On 9/18/2014 10:32 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/18/2014 12:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:57:55 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. Very happy!
>>>>
>>>> Julie Bove Aug 21
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Other recipients:
>>>> I don't use cookbooks.
>>>>
>>>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> - show quoted text -
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34:04 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> Probably not.
>>>>>
>>>>> For future cooking, buy her a large cookbook and have her circle what
>>>>> she
>>>>> thinks she would like. Then you can have at it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "I don't use cookbooks." Aug 21
>>>
>>> And normally I don't. But when I could not come up with the recipe that
>>> I wanted online, I bought it. I do collect them you know. But most of
>>> my recipes are gotten online these days.
>>>
>>> Are you stalking me too?
>>
>> Yessss... everyone is stalking you. Feel free to waffle again.
>
> I don't do waffles. Too many carbs!

LOL.

Good one.

On 9/18/2014 11:25 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> So in my mind, I got
> paid more than it cost to buy it!
>
> -sw


Many corrupt things in your mind...

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/18/2014 12:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:57:55 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. Very happy!
>>>>
>>>> Julie Bove Aug 21
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Other recipients:
>>>> I don't use cookbooks.
>>>>
>>>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> - show quoted text -
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34:04 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> Probably not.
>>>>>
>>>>> For future cooking, buy her a large cookbook and have her circle what
>>>>> she
>>>>> thinks she would like. Then you can have at it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "I don't use cookbooks." Aug 21
>>>
>>> And normally I don't. But when I could not come up with the recipe that
>>> I wanted online, I bought it. I do collect them you know. But most of
>>> my recipes are gotten online these days.
>>>
>>> Are you stalking me too?
>>
>> Yessss... everyone is stalking you. Feel free to waffle again.
>
> I don't do waffles. Too many carbs!

You must be joking. I read what you write about the foods you eat and you
easily consume more carbs in a day than I eat in a week. Then you wonder
why your BG is 350.



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On Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:40:50 PM UTC-6, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >
>
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> >> On 9/18/2014 12:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>
> >>> ...
>
> >>>> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:57:55 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>>>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. Very happy!
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Julie Bove Aug 21
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Other recipients:
>
> >>>> I don't use cookbooks.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> - show quoted text -
>
> >>>>> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34:04 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Probably not.
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> For future cooking, buy her a large cookbook and have her circle what
>
> >>>>> she
>
> >>>>> thinks she would like. Then you can have at it.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> "I don't use cookbooks." Aug 21
>
> >>>
>
> >>> And normally I don't. But when I could not come up with the recipe that
>
> >>> I wanted online, I bought it. I do collect them you know. But most of
>
> >>> my recipes are gotten online these days.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Are you stalking me too?
>
> >>
>
> >> Yessss... everyone is stalking you. Feel free to waffle again.
>
> >
>
> > I don't do waffles. Too many carbs!
>
>
>
> You must be joking. I read what you write about the foods you eat and you
>
> easily consume more carbs in a day than I eat in a week. Then you wonder
>
> why your BG is 350.
>
I sometimes wonder if she really is a diabetic by the foods she eats.
Something doesn't ring true at times. I'm not a diabetic but have a friend who is and her regimen certainly differs from Julie's.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> I don't do waffles. Too many carbs!
>
> You must be joking. I read what you write about the foods you eat and you
> easily consume more carbs in a day than I eat in a week. Then you wonder
> why your BG is 350.

Yep.

Cheri

"Roy" > wrote in message news:8cde25f4-29ca-4086-a9c4-

I sometimes wonder if she really is a diabetic by the foods she eats.
Something doesn't ring true at times. I'm not a diabetic but have a friend
who is and her regimen certainly differs from Julie's.
===========

She's definitely a diabetic and has been for many years. Different people
have different regimens.

Cheri

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/18/2014 12:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:57:55 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. Very happy!
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie Bove Aug 21
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Other recipients:
>>>>> I don't use cookbooks.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> - show quoted text -
>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34:04 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>> Probably not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For future cooking, buy her a large cookbook and have her circle what
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> thinks she would like. Then you can have at it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "I don't use cookbooks." Aug 21
>>>>
>>>> And normally I don't. But when I could not come up with the recipe
>>>> that
>>>> I wanted online, I bought it. I do collect them you know. But most of
>>>> my recipes are gotten online these days.
>>>>
>>>> Are you stalking me too?
>>>
>>> Yessss... everyone is stalking you. Feel free to waffle again.
>>
>> I don't do waffles. Too many carbs!
>
> You must be joking. I read what you write about the foods you eat and you
> easily consume more carbs in a day than I eat in a week. Then you wonder
> why your BG is 350.

I write about foods here but I don't give carb counts for them. You have no
clue what my portion sizes are. I use the Cron-O-Meter every once in a
while just to check my calories and the breakdown of. And my BG hasn't been
350 in a while. I am on a higher dose of insulin now.

Also, if I want to push my BG up over 300, all I have to do is eat low carb.
Yep! That's all it takes. Why? Because I have gastroparesis which means
slowed digestion. So the worst foods for me are fats, proteins and fiber.
Oddly enough I do quite well with beans. Not all people with gastroparesis
do. But I could never eat a steak and I'm never chancing a large salad
again. I can eat small amounts of salad a couple of times a week. I used
to eat tons of vegetables. I can't any more.

And and... Sarcasm! It's a wonderful thing!

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:40:50 PM UTC-6, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >
>>
>> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>
>> > ...
>>
>> >> On 9/18/2014 12:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>>
>> >>> ...
>>
>> >>>> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:57:55 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. Very happy!
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> Julie Bove Aug 21
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> Other recipients:
>>
>> >>>> I don't use cookbooks.
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> "Thomas" > wrote in message
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> - show quoted text -
>>
>> >>>>> On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:34:04 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>> Probably not.
>>
>> >>>>>
>>
>> >>>>> For future cooking, buy her a large cookbook and have her circle
>> >>>>> what
>>
>> >>>>> she
>>
>> >>>>> thinks she would like. Then you can have at it.
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> "I don't use cookbooks." Aug 21
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>> And normally I don't. But when I could not come up with the recipe
>> >>> that
>>
>> >>> I wanted online, I bought it. I do collect them you know. But most
>> >>> of
>>
>> >>> my recipes are gotten online these days.
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>> Are you stalking me too?
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Yessss... everyone is stalking you. Feel free to waffle again.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I don't do waffles. Too many carbs!
>>
>>
>>
>> You must be joking. I read what you write about the foods you eat and
>> you
>>
>> easily consume more carbs in a day than I eat in a week. Then you wonder
>>
>> why your BG is 350.
>>
> I sometimes wonder if she really is a diabetic by the foods she eats.
> Something doesn't ring true at times. I'm not a diabetic but have a friend
> who is and her regimen certainly differs from Julie's.

There is no one regimen for diabetics. I know quite a few of them and none
of us eat the same things. Keep in mind that I have gastroparesis. I can
only eat foods that are easy for me to digest. If I eat something like a
steak, not only will my blood sugar go sky high as it sits in my stomach,
undigested, but it will cause me problems in a most painful fashion at one
or both ends of the...food channel if you will. I don't want to take this
into TMI.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Roy" > wrote in message news:8cde25f4-29ca-4086-a9c4-
>
> I sometimes wonder if she really is a diabetic by the foods she eats.
> Something doesn't ring true at times. I'm not a diabetic but have a friend
> who is and her regimen certainly differs from Julie's.
> ===========
>
> She's definitely a diabetic and has been for many years. Different people
> have different regimens.
>
> Cheri

When I lived in CA, I was in a diabetic support group. Our leader, a type
1, ate a macrobiotic diet. A type 2 who was trying to get on an insulin
pump but couldn't due to his insurance, ate extreme low carb. Another type
2, often boasted of the delicious Slam breakfasts that Denny's had at the
time. Still another type 2 with a type 2 husband was trying to make changes
like mixing brown and white rice because her husband hated the brown. I
can't personally see that working. I like them both but the texture and
cook times are totally different.

The rest in the group were, IMO kind of clueless. They were of the mindset
that if they took their pills every day that was all they needed to do.

I also had a type 2 neighbor who was Hawaiian. I used to cringe at how she
ate. She was telling me of getting some chicken sandwich somewhere with
honey mustard on it. She ate tons of fruit. And a lot of the carby things
that our Thai neighbor made. When I went to parties, I either brought my
own salad or I brought a cheese plate and raw veggies to share. And I'd
have one of her corn fritters. The other woman would eat 3-4 fritters and
some other foods along with sticky rice and perhaps a cookie or whatever
else they had for dessert.

I do watch my carbs. There was a time when I measured everything that I
ate. I no longer need to do that. I can pretty well eyeball a portion
size. My only problem would be in dining out or eating something that
someone else prepared. But my food intolerances pretty well took care of
that. No way would I chance eating gravy, stuffing or bread in a
restaurant.

I tried eating carrot bread twice in a CA place. Mimi's? I think that was
the name. Was a chain place. I had one piece of that and a chopped salad,
no croutons or dressing. And my blood sugar would be up over 180. In those
days I rarely saw any numbers as high as that. In those days to me, 150 was
high. Anyway... I went to the website and looked up the ingredients in the
carrot "bread". It was more like carrot cake with no icing. It was mostly
sugar!

My numbers over 200 began after that ill fated day when someone mixed two
product in the bathroom, one containing bleach and the other chlorine.
Angela was the only one who escaped damage from that, likely because she was
not helping with the cleaning. My parents were there helping. We were
moving from CA to NY but we came up to WA first to visit. The rest of us
all got some sort of respiratory nasty. I got a sinus infection that would
not resolve for months, despite seeing several Drs. in various states. The
infection pushed my numbers up just around 200.

But then I tried low carb. And that's when I learned that low carbing
pushed my numbers up over 300. I had to add some carbs back in but in
limited amounts. It has been all uphill from there. I have been on and off
a variety of meds and insulins since then. Some didn't do a thing for me.
I also learned of the gastroparesis and how that affects my blood sugar.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> I don't do waffles. Too many carbs!
>>
>> You must be joking. I read what you write about the foods you eat and
>> you easily consume more carbs in a day than I eat in a week. Then you
>> wonder why your BG is 350.
>
> Yep.

My BG isn't that high now. And it isn't from what I eat. I eat what I need
to eat. And what I can eat. Between the food intolerances and the
gastroparesis, my diet is very limited.

On 9/17/2014 10:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. This appears to be the same
> one that I used to have but has a different spine on it. So it will
> take much much less room in my closet. Whoever had it didn't appear to
> have used it at all. Almost as good as new but the pages are a tad
> crispy from age.
>
> I think this is going to work out well. I see many meat recipes that
> look like they will work for us. I really didn't pay much attention to
> meat recipes when I had it prior because I was a vegetarian then. I
> also see some things that I had forgotten about like Buttons and Bows
> which is an easy recipe for sweetened biscuits.
>
> So... Very happy!

I grew up with the Better Homes New Cookbook. My mom must have gotten it
for me when I was a kid. My parents would do stuff like that. They would
see that I had an interest in something and would provide me support,
although at the time, I was completely oblivious to what they were doing.

When I got older, I had the Good Housekeeping cookbook. I don't remember
where that came from but my parents might have bought that for me too.
It's a book that has followed me for most of my life.

On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 11:59:59 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 9/17/2014 10:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. This appears to be the same
>> one that I used to have but has a different spine on it. So it will
>> take much much less room in my closet. Whoever had it didn't appear to
>> have used it at all. Almost as good as new but the pages are a tad
>> crispy from age.
>>
>> I think this is going to work out well. I see many meat recipes that
>> look like they will work for us. I really didn't pay much attention to
>> meat recipes when I had it prior because I was a vegetarian then. I
>> also see some things that I had forgotten about like Buttons and Bows
>> which is an easy recipe for sweetened biscuits.
>>
>> So... Very happy!
>
>I grew up with the Better Homes New Cookbook. My mom must have gotten it
>for me when I was a kid. My parents would do stuff like that. They would
>see that I had an interest in something and would provide me support,
>although at the time, I was completely oblivious to what they were doing.
>
>When I got older, I had the Good Housekeeping cookbook. I don't remember
>where that came from but my parents might have bought that for me too.
>It's a book that has followed me for most of my life.

I also grew up with the Better Homes & Gardens New Cookbook. My mother
gave me a copy circa 1972 when I got married.

I ended up passing it on to my daughter when she got married, but I
missed it, so she bought me a new copy, but the recipes in the newer
edition were all different.

I finally found a copy of my original one at a yard sale, for $2. Why
anyone would put a classic cookbook like that in a yard sale is beyond
me.

Doris

On 9/18/2014 3:19 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Roy" > wrote in message news:8cde25f4-29ca-4086-a9c4-
>
> I sometimes wonder if she really is a diabetic by the foods she eats.
> Something doesn't ring true at times. I'm not a diabetic but have a
> friend who is and her regimen certainly differs from Julie's.
> ===========
>
> She's definitely a diabetic and has been for many years. Different
> people have different regimens.
>
> Cheri

It seems I am a diabetic now, too. My blood sugar has been weird but
doctor order A1C in my pre Op blood work (another back surgery on the
29th) and it was

"HEMOGLOBIN A1C 6.2 H <5.7 % QBA
According to ADA guidelines, hemoglobin A1c <7.0% represents
optimal control in non-pregnant diabetic patients. Different metrics
may apply to specific patient populations. Standards of Medical Care
in Diabetes-2013. Diabetes Care. 2013;36:s11-s66.
For the purpose of screening for the presence of diabetes
<5.7% Consistent with the absence of diabetes
5.7-6.4 % Consistent with increased risk for diabetes (prediabetes)
>or= 6.5 % Consistent with diabetes
This assay result is consistent with a higher risk of diabetes.
Currently, no consensus exists for use of hemoglobin A1C for diagnosis
of diabetes for children."

My blood sugar in the test was 105 but it wasn't a fasting test. So
diabetes confuses me.

--
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Cheryl

On 9/18/2014 8:10 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/18/2014 3:19 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> news:8cde25f4-29ca-4086-a9c4-
>>
>> I sometimes wonder if she really is a diabetic by the foods she eats.
>> Something doesn't ring true at times. I'm not a diabetic but have a
>> friend who is and her regimen certainly differs from Julie's.
>> ===========
>>
>> She's definitely a diabetic and has been for many years. Different
>> people have different regimens.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> It seems I am a diabetic now, too. My blood sugar has been weird but
> doctor order A1C in my pre Op blood work (another back surgery on the
> 29th) and it was
>
> "HEMOGLOBIN A1C 6.2 H <5.7 % QBA
> According to ADA guidelines, hemoglobin A1c <7.0% represents
> optimal control in non-pregnant diabetic patients. Different metrics
> may apply to specific patient populations. Standards of Medical Care
> in Diabetes-2013. Diabetes Care. 2013;36:s11-s66.
> For the purpose of screening for the presence of diabetes
> <5.7% Consistent with the absence of diabetes
> 5.7-6.4 % Consistent with increased risk for diabetes (prediabetes)
> >or= 6.5 % Consistent with diabetes
> This assay result is consistent with a higher risk of diabetes.
> Currently, no consensus exists for use of hemoglobin A1C for diagnosis
> of diabetes for children."
>
> My blood sugar in the test was 105 but it wasn't a fasting test. So
> diabetes confuses me.
>

A Hemoglobin A1C of 6.2 is bretty good for a diagnosed diabetic, but not
a non-diabetic. I don't know about 7.0 being "optimal" as every
endocrinologist my DH, of blessed memory, used would yell at him if his
A1C was over 6.5

105 is good, but you really need a fasting blood glucose to make a
diagnosis.

My advice to you, cut out as many carbohydrates as possible. That
includes milk and milk products, breads, pastas, rice, starchy
vegetables like potatoes and corn. Read labels like your life depends
on it. It does.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/17/2014 10:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. This appears to be the same
>> one that I used to have but has a different spine on it. So it will
>> take much much less room in my closet. Whoever had it didn't appear to
>> have used it at all. Almost as good as new but the pages are a tad
>> crispy from age.
>>
>> I think this is going to work out well. I see many meat recipes that
>> look like they will work for us. I really didn't pay much attention to
>> meat recipes when I had it prior because I was a vegetarian then. I
>> also see some things that I had forgotten about like Buttons and Bows
>> which is an easy recipe for sweetened biscuits.
>>
>> So... Very happy!
>
> I grew up with the Better Homes New Cookbook. My mom must have gotten it
> for me when I was a kid. My parents would do stuff like that. They would
> see that I had an interest in something and would provide me support,
> although at the time, I was completely oblivious to what they were doing.
>
> When I got older, I had the Good Housekeeping cookbook. I don't remember
> where that came from but my parents might have bought that for me too.
> It's a book that has followed me for most of my life.

My first cookbook cost 10 cents. I know this because the prices was stamped
on it. Alas, it was part of a series and either the others weren't
available or my parents wouldn't get them for me. It came from a grocery
store. I think it was IGA which is not a store that we shopped at often.

I suspect it was one of those things where the store gave them away as
freebies, a different one each week if you purchased enough groceries. So
this was likely left over and not given away as they were selling it.

I made almost every recipe in there except for some of the coffee. I do
think that I did try one coffee recipe when we had guests over but I can't
remember what it was. I did make the spiced apples a lot. My dad and I
liked those.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 11:59:59 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>>On 9/17/2014 10:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. This appears to be the same
>>> one that I used to have but has a different spine on it. So it will
>>> take much much less room in my closet. Whoever had it didn't appear to
>>> have used it at all. Almost as good as new but the pages are a tad
>>> crispy from age.
>>>
>>> I think this is going to work out well. I see many meat recipes that
>>> look like they will work for us. I really didn't pay much attention to
>>> meat recipes when I had it prior because I was a vegetarian then. I
>>> also see some things that I had forgotten about like Buttons and Bows
>>> which is an easy recipe for sweetened biscuits.
>>>
>>> So... Very happy!
>>
>>I grew up with the Better Homes New Cookbook. My mom must have gotten it
>>for me when I was a kid. My parents would do stuff like that. They would
>>see that I had an interest in something and would provide me support,
>>although at the time, I was completely oblivious to what they were doing.
>>
>>When I got older, I had the Good Housekeeping cookbook. I don't remember
>>where that came from but my parents might have bought that for me too.
>>It's a book that has followed me for most of my life.
>
> I also grew up with the Better Homes & Gardens New Cookbook. My mother
> gave me a copy circa 1972 when I got married.
>
> I ended up passing it on to my daughter when she got married, but I
> missed it, so she bought me a new copy, but the recipes in the newer
> edition were all different.
>
> I finally found a copy of my original one at a yard sale, for $2. Why
> anyone would put a classic cookbook like that in a yard sale is beyond
> me.

Perhaps the owner of it died or went into a nursing home or some such thing.
My mom got rid of all of her cookbooks before she moved. No need to cook
there and she hates to cook anyway.

I got rid of my cookbook because it was wearing out but like what happened
to you, the new book had totally different recipes. A few of them might
have been the same but I didn't like that book nearly as well as this
version.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 9/18/2014 3:19 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> news:8cde25f4-29ca-4086-a9c4-
>>
>> I sometimes wonder if she really is a diabetic by the foods she eats.
>> Something doesn't ring true at times. I'm not a diabetic but have a
>> friend who is and her regimen certainly differs from Julie's.
>> ===========
>>
>> She's definitely a diabetic and has been for many years. Different
>> people have different regimens.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> It seems I am a diabetic now, too. My blood sugar has been weird but
> doctor order A1C in my pre Op blood work (another back surgery on the
> 29th) and it was
>
> "HEMOGLOBIN A1C 6.2 H <5.7 % QBA
> According to ADA guidelines, hemoglobin A1c <7.0% represents
> optimal control in non-pregnant diabetic patients. Different metrics
> may apply to specific patient populations. Standards of Medical Care
> in Diabetes-2013. Diabetes Care. 2013;36:s11-s66.
> For the purpose of screening for the presence of diabetes
> <5.7% Consistent with the absence of diabetes
> 5.7-6.4 % Consistent with increased risk for diabetes (prediabetes)
> >or= 6.5 % Consistent with diabetes
> This assay result is consistent with a higher risk of diabetes.
> Currently, no consensus exists for use of hemoglobin A1C for diagnosis
> of diabetes for children."
>
> My blood sugar in the test was 105 but it wasn't a fasting test. So
> diabetes confuses me.

Very sorry to hear that. They keep lowering the threshold for what blood
sugar numbers are diabetes so at the rate we are going, pretty soon most
people will have it.

The A1c is not always used to diagnose. A person can have diabetes and have
wild highs and lows but still have a normal A1c. If the A1c is high though,
it can be used.

One exception to this could be a thyroid problem. Sometimes when a person
has this and it is resolved, the blood sugar will come down.

Diabetes is a progressive disease. Many of us find that as the years go by
our blood sugar gets harder and harder to control. There was a time when
all I had to do was exercise to knock down high numbers. I was known to do
all manner of exercise, depending on where I was. If stuck in a vehicle or
at a party, I might only be able to do isometrics. At home I would usually
just grab my weights. But then exercise began having the opposite effect on
me. Rather than raising it followed by drop in numbers, mine just went up
and stayed up.

Sleep can affect blood sugar too. I am running pretty much on empty right
now after having to wait all day for the garage door tech. to come. He was
supposed to have been here at 8:00 a.m. He never showed and eventually
someone else did around 3:30 p.m. I did manage to snag about an hour before
8:00 and close to another hour after the replacement guy finally called and
told me he would be here between 1 and 4:00. So... I am paying for it with
higher blood sugar. It was 305 after breakfast and it's hardly ever that
high any more. Had only come down to 180 before dinner. And the only thing
I had to eat between the two meals was a handful of Spanish peanuts so that
shouldn't have caused a problem.

On Friday, September 19, 2014 3:22:32 AM UTC+1, Janet Wilder wrote:

My advice to you, cut out as many carbohydrates as possible. That includes milk and milk products, breads, pastas, rice, starchy vegetables like potatoes and corn. Read labels like your life depends on it. It does.

From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas


Whoa, that's extreme and unnecessary.

In the first instance get a fasting blood glucose test done.

After that if you are diabetic a balanced diet and portion control will help enormously. Obviously the first thing to cut out is cane sugar. You can eat potatoes etc., but in smaller portions than maybe you are used to. White rice is the one carb that can easily cause a spike in blood sugar.

Other starchy foods, bread and pasta again in small portions.

Do not forego milk just don't drink it by the glassful. If it turns out you are insulin diabetic a small glass of half fat milk and a small banana before going to bed is very useful in helping to ensure your blood sugar doesn't drop too low over night. The last thing you want to have happen is for your blood sugar to get too low and wake up having to consume sugary stuff..

It is possible to have ice cream or a small dessert after a meal. Cut out something else in your meal and have that small dessert instead.

Balance is key. No need for scary extremes.

Cherry

"Cherry" > wrote in message
...
On Friday, September 19, 2014 3:22:32 AM UTC+1, Janet Wilder wrote:

My advice to you, cut out as many carbohydrates as possible. That includes
milk and milk products, breads, pastas, rice, starchy vegetables like
potatoes and corn. Read labels like your life depends on it. It does.

From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas


Whoa, that's extreme and unnecessary.

---

Agree. Not everyone responds well to a low carb diet.

---

In the first instance get a fasting blood glucose test done.

---

I don't know who this is a reply to but if Cheryl, that wouldn't be
necessary since she was already pre-diabetic. In her case the elevated A1c
is enough to diagnose.

---

After that if you are diabetic a balanced diet and portion control will help
enormously. Obviously the first thing to cut out is cane sugar. You can
eat potatoes etc., but in smaller portions than maybe you are used to.
White rice is the one carb that can easily cause a spike in blood sugar.

---

That's not really correct either. Cane sugar is no worse in terms of
affecting blood sugar than potatoes or white bread or even rice. Or orange
juice. The list goes on and on.

---

Other starchy foods, bread and pasta again in small portions.

---

Some people can do this and some can't.

---

Do not forego milk just don't drink it by the glassful. If it turns out you
are insulin diabetic a small glass of half fat milk and a small banana
before going to bed is very useful in helping to ensure your blood sugar
doesn't drop too low over night. The last thing you want to have happen is
for your blood sugar to get too low and wake up having to consume sugary
stuff.

---

I have no clue what half fat milk is. I don't think we get it here or if we
do it goes by another name. And your advice about the milk and banana is a
super bad one! A half a sandwich or some cheese and crackers would be
better. Bananas of any size are one of the worst foods for diabetics in
most cases. Great if you need to raise your blood sugar quickly but that's
not what you want before bed unless you are already low. And some diabetes
medications have just as much potential as insulin does to cause lows. The
same goes for alcohol.

---

It is possible to have ice cream or a small dessert after a meal. Cut out
something else in your meal and have that small dessert instead.

---

I suppose some people could do this occasionally. Hardly good advice for
every day and not something I'd ever do. I would much prefer some beans or
a potato over some sort of sweet any day.

---

Balance is key. No need for scary extremes.

---

That's not really it either but neither is the extreme. That's one reason
why we have meters. We can test our blood sugar and see how things affect
us.

On Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:57:55 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:

> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. This appears to be the same one
> that I used to have but has a different spine on it. So it will take much
> much less room in my closet. Whoever had it didn't appear to have used it at
> all. Almost as good as new but the pages are a tad crispy from age.
>

I bought two early editions, both pristine. One at a book fair, the other
at a used bookstore in Palm Springs. I was looking for one like my mother
had, which was loved to death a la the Velveteen Rabbit, so I could cook
some of the old familiar recipes.

I didn't need the second one, but it was in such fabulous shape I
couldn't resist it. My mother's was spiral bound, so it could lie flat,
but both of these are hardback.

On Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:41:00 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:

> "Cherry" > wrote in message
> ...

>
> Do not forego milk just don't drink it by the glassful. If it turns out you
> are insulin diabetic a small glass of half fat milk and a small banana
> before going to bed is very useful in helping to ensure your blood sugar
> doesn't drop too low over night. The last thing you want to have happen is
> for your blood sugar to get too low and wake up having to consume sugary
> stuff.

>
> I have no clue what half fat milk is. I don't think we get it here or if we
> do it goes by another name.

As whole milk (e.g. from Holsteins) is typically 4% butterfat, 2% milk
would be half fat.

> wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:41:00 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Cherry" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
>>
>> Do not forego milk just don't drink it by the glassful. If it turns out
>> you
>> are insulin diabetic a small glass of half fat milk and a small banana
>> before going to bed is very useful in helping to ensure your blood sugar
>> doesn't drop too low over night. The last thing you want to have happen
>> is
>> for your blood sugar to get too low and wake up having to consume sugary
>> stuff.
>
>>
>> I have no clue what half fat milk is. I don't think we get it here or if
>> we
>> do it goes by another name.
>
> As whole milk (e.g. from Holsteins) is typically 4% butterfat, 2% milk
> would be half fat.

Ohhhhhhh. Okay then. We do have that.

> wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:57:55 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I got the Betty Crocker one from 1969/1976. This appears to be the same
>> one
>> that I used to have but has a different spine on it. So it will take
>> much
>> much less room in my closet. Whoever had it didn't appear to have used it
>> at
>> all. Almost as good as new but the pages are a tad crispy from age.
>>
>
> I bought two early editions, both pristine. One at a book fair, the other
> at a used bookstore in Palm Springs. I was looking for one like my mother
> had, which was loved to death a la the Velveteen Rabbit, so I could cook
> some of the old familiar recipes.
>
> I didn't need the second one, but it was in such fabulous shape I
> couldn't resist it. My mother's was spiral bound, so it could lie flat,
> but both of these are hardback.

My mother had the one that predates this one. The one that has the pie
shaped pieces of pictures on the front. I think some of the recipes are
similar. I mostly made cookies from hers. The one that I just got is the
hardbound so much thinner. I think my other one was three ring. Odd that
they make so many different styles.

After that if you are diabetic a balanced diet and portion control will help
enormously. Obviously the first thing to cut out is cane sugar. You can
eat potatoes etc., but in smaller portions than maybe you are used to. White rice is the one carb that can easily cause a spike in blood sugar.

---

That's not really correct either. Cane sugar is no worse in terms of affecting blood sugar than potatoes or white bread or even rice. Or orange juice. The list goes on and on.

---

Wrong. There are no nutrients in cane sugar. We don't need it. You should never exclude whole food groups. You need the nutrients they contain and so much better for you than popping a pill.

---

Other starchy foods, bread and pasta again in small portions.

---

Some people can do this and some can't.

---

Which is why a person shouldn't be told to exclude those things until they have worked out for themselves what works for them and what doesn't.

---

Do not forego milk just don't drink it by the glassful. If it turns out you are insulin diabetic a small glass of half fat milk and a small banana before going to bed is very useful in helping to ensure your blood sugar doesn't drop too low over night. The last thing you want to have happen is for your blood sugar to get too low and wake up having to consume sugary stuff..

---

I have no clue what half fat milk is. I don't think we get it here or if we do it goes by another name. And your advice about the milk and banana is a
super bad one! A half a sandwich or some cheese and crackers would be
better. Bananas of any size are one of the worst foods for diabetics in most cases. Great if you need to raise your blood sugar quickly but that's not what you want before bed unless you are already low. And some diabetes
medications have just as much potential as insulin does to cause lows. The
same goes for alcohol.

---

This from the person who hasn't got the nous, wit nor intelligence to understand what 'half fat' is? Milk is good for you, again nutrition. Something that is devoid in your diet.

Bananas are an excellent source of potassium, very nutritious and they are low glycemic.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...odspice&dbid=7

---

It is possible to have ice cream or a small dessert after a meal. Cut out
something else in your meal and have that small dessert instead.

---

I suppose some people could do this occasionally. Hardly good advice for
every day and not something I'd ever do. I would much prefer some beans or a potato over some sort of sweet any day.

---

Did I say everyday? I'm sue Cheryl has more common sense than that. We know all about your diet and it is not good. Strange how someone who eats so many carbs thinks she can lecture on them.

---

Balance is key. No need for scary extremes.

---

That's not really it either but neither is the extreme. That's one reason
why we have meters. We can test our blood sugar and see how things affect
us.

---

Do get yourself equipped with a blood glucose monitor. The new modern ones are very good and need only the tiniest drop of blood. Because of this the lancet doesn't have to dig into your finger and so you can use the fingerpricker on the lightest setting and feel only a tiny pin prick. I use the Contour Next USB from Bayer:

http://www.bayercontour.com/Blood-Gl...Next-USB-Meter

Cherry

"Cherry" > wrote in message
...
After that if you are diabetic a balanced diet and portion control will help
enormously. Obviously the first thing to cut out is cane sugar. You can
eat potatoes etc., but in smaller portions than maybe you are used to.
White rice is the one carb that can easily cause a spike in blood sugar.

---

That's not really correct either. Cane sugar is no worse in terms of
affecting blood sugar than potatoes or white bread or even rice. Or orange
juice. The list goes on and on.

---

Wrong. There are no nutrients in cane sugar. We don't need it. You should
never exclude whole food groups. You need the nutrients they contain and so
much better for you than popping a pill.

===

Popping *what* pill? And some foods that do contain nutrients also contain
cane sugar.

---

Other starchy foods, bread and pasta again in small portions.

---

Some people can do this and some can't.

---

Which is why a person shouldn't be told to exclude those things until they
have worked out for themselves what works for them and what doesn't.

---

Do not forego milk just don't drink it by the glassful. If it turns out you
are insulin diabetic a small glass of half fat milk and a small banana
before going to bed is very useful in helping to ensure your blood sugar
doesn't drop too low over night. The last thing you want to have happen is
for your blood sugar to get too low and wake up having to consume sugary
stuff.

---

I have no clue what half fat milk is. I don't think we get it here or if we
do it goes by another name. And your advice about the milk and banana is a
super bad one! A half a sandwich or some cheese and crackers would be
better. Bananas of any size are one of the worst foods for diabetics in
most cases. Great if you need to raise your blood sugar quickly but that's
not what you want before bed unless you are already low. And some diabetes
medications have just as much potential as insulin does to cause lows. The
same goes for alcohol.

---

This from the person who hasn't got the nous, wit nor intelligence to
understand what 'half fat' is? Milk is good for you, again nutrition.
Something that is devoid in your diet.

===

I don't drink milk. Not ever. So I don't know the different kinds.

Bananas are an excellent source of potassium, very nutritious and they are
low glycemic.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...odspice&dbid=7

===

Low glycemic means nothing. The glycemic index is badly flawed and nobody
should just blindly follow it. Potatoes are higher in potassium than
bananas. And they will spike blood sugar.

---

It is possible to have ice cream or a small dessert after a meal. Cut out
something else in your meal and have that small dessert instead.

---

I suppose some people could do this occasionally. Hardly good advice for
every day and not something I'd ever do. I would much prefer some beans or
a potato over some sort of sweet any day.

---

Did I say everyday? I'm sue Cheryl has more common sense than that. We
know all about your diet and it is not good. Strange how someone who eats
so many carbs thinks she can lecture on them.

===

Ha! My diet is not good? How is it not good? It's very good. I'm not
eating all sorts of crap like a lot of people I know.

---

Balance is key. No need for scary extremes.

---

That's not really it either but neither is the extreme. That's one reason
why we have meters. We can test our blood sugar and see how things affect
us.

---

Do get yourself equipped with a blood glucose monitor. The new modern ones
are very good and need only the tiniest drop of blood. Because of this the
lancet doesn't have to dig into your finger and so you can use the
fingerpricker on the lightest setting and feel only a tiny pin prick. I use
the Contour Next USB from Bayer:

http://www.bayercontour.com/Blood-Gl...Next-USB-Meter

Cherry

===

Gee, I have that meter too and mine is the USB one. And I don't even feel a
tiny pin prick because I rarely change my lancet. If I used the lightest
setting, nothing would happen. I have very thick skin. I find it necessary
to post here.

After that if you are diabetic a balanced diet and portion control will help
enormously. Obviously the first thing to cut out is cane sugar. You can
eat potatoes etc., but in smaller portions than maybe you are used to. White rice is the one carb that can easily cause a spike in blood sugar.
---

That's not really correct either. Cane sugar is no worse in terms of affecting blood sugar than potatoes or white bread or even rice. Or orange juice. The list goes on and on.
---

Wrong. There are no nutrients in cane sugar. We don't need it. You should
never exclude whole food groups. You need the nutrients they contain and so much better for you than popping a pill.
===

Popping *what* pill? And some foods that do contain nutrients also contain
cane sugar.
---

A vitamin pill obviously. Again, obviously you do not eat those foods that contain cane sugar! You really need to have that spelt out to you???
---

Other starchy foods, bread and pasta again in small portions.
---

Some people can do this and some can't.

---

Which is why a person shouldn't be told to exclude those things until they
have worked out for themselves what works for them and what doesn't.
---

Do not forego milk just don't drink it by the glassful. If it turns out you are insulin diabetic a small glass of half fat milk and a small banana before going to bed is very useful in helping to ensure your blood sugar doesn't drop too low over night. The last thing you want to have happen is for your blood sugar to get too low and wake up having to consume sugary stuff..
---
have no clue what half fat milk is. I don't think we get it here or if we do it goes by another name. And your advice about the milk and banana is a
super bad one! A half a sandwich or some cheese and crackers would be
better. Bananas of any size are one of the worst foods for diabetics in
most cases. Great if you need to raise your blood sugar quickly but that's
not what you want before bed unless you are already low. And some diabetes medications have just as much potential as insulin does to cause lows. The same goes for alcohol.
---

This from the person who hasn't got the nous, wit nor intelligence to understand what 'half fat' is? Milk is good for you, again nutrition. Something that is devoid in your diet.
===

I don't drink milk. Not ever. So I don't know the different kinds.
---

You don't need to know the different kinds of milk to understand what the term 'half fat' means. Are you really that stupid? This is not good, I'm really beginning to lose my patience now.
---

Bananas are an excellent source of potassium, very nutritious and they are
low glycemic.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...odspice&dbid=7
===

Low glycemic means nothing. The glycemic index is badly flawed and nobody should just blindly follow it. Potatoes are higher in potassium than
bananas. And they will spike blood sugar.
---

Most foods will spike your sugar if you eat too much of it!
---
It is possible to have ice cream or a small dessert after a meal. Cut out
something else in your meal and have that small dessert instead.
---

I suppose some people could do this occasionally. Hardly good advice for
every day and not something I'd ever do. I would much prefer some beans or a potato over some sort of sweet any day.
---

Have you forgotten? We're not talking about you. This thread is about Cheryl

Did I say everyday? I'm sure Cheryl has more common sense than that. We
know all about your diet and it is not good. Strange how someone who eats
so many carbs thinks she can lecture on them.
===

Ha! My diet is not good? How is it not good? It's very good. I'm not eating all sorts of crap like a lot of people I know.
---

We know about your diet, you've told everyone countless times what you eat. A healthy assortment of fresh fruit and vegetables doesn't exist in your world.
---

Balance is key. No need for scary extremes.
---

That's not really it either but neither is the extreme. That's one reason
why we have meters. We can test our blood sugar and see how things affect
us.
---
Do get yourself equipped with a blood glucose monitor. The new modern ones are very good and need only the tiniest drop of blood. Because of this the lancet doesn't have to dig into your finger and so you can use the
fingerpricker on the lightest setting and feel only a tiny pin prick. I use the Contour Next USB from Bayer:

http://www.bayercontour.com/Blood-Gl...Next-USB-Meter
---

Gee, I have that meter too and mine is the USB one. And I don't even feel a
tiny pin prick because I rarely change my lancet. If I used the lightest setting, nothing would happen. I have very thick skin. I find it necessary
to post here.
---

Again that was for Cheryl not you. You do remember Cheryl whom this thread is about. Cheryl as a new user is not going to have your so called problems.

While I'm at it, I got to speak with three hospital medics last week and they all basically threw their hands in horror at the idea at re-using lancets. At least I don't take advice from some office worker even if he/she works for Bayer.

Cherry

On 2014-09-19 21:35, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 9/19/2014 5:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
BG is 350.
>>>
>>> I couldn't help but notice how effortlessly she set that hook. A game
>>> fish you're not.
>>
>> I don't eat fish either.
>
> Isn't there a saying that "fish is brain food". It's very healthy for
> you and you live in an area where it's easy to get good quality,
> fresh-caught fish.
>

There is no evidence of her ever eating brain food.... ever.

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:35:28 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

> Isn't there a saying that "fish is brain food".

My husband's father used to say that.

> It's very healthy for
> you and you live in an area where it's easy to get good quality,
> fresh-caught fish.

If it doesn't put you into the poor house.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

"Cherry" > wrote in message
...

Wrong. There are no nutrients in cane sugar. We don't need it. You should
never exclude whole food groups. You need the nutrients they contain and so
much better for you than popping a pill.
===

Popping *what* pill? And some foods that do contain nutrients also contain
cane sugar.
---

A vitamin pill obviously. Again, obviously you do not eat those foods that
contain cane sugar! You really need to have that spelt out to you???

=====

This is getting annoying to reply to, partly because it is too hard to tell
who said what here. So you think that somehow cane sugar is worse for a
person than beet sugar? *snicker* On the one hand, you say to avoid cane
sugar and then later you say that you can swap out something else in the
meal for a dessert. What kind of a dessert? Cake made with beet sugar?
Ice cream made of high fructose corn syrup? There really is no difference
between the things.

And apparently you aren't taking Metforimin. If you were, you should be
taking a B12 supplement because the med robs your body of it. Many of us
here in the US also take vitamin D supplements. That's one thing that you
can't get naturally in food. And in this area, we often don't get enough
sun.
milk just don't drink it by the glassful. If it turns out you are insulin
diabetic a small glass of half fat milk and a small banana before going to
bed is very useful in helping to ensure your blood sugar doesn't drop too
low over night. The last thing you want to have happen is for your blood
sugar to get too low and wake up having to consume sugary stuff.
---


You don't need to know the different kinds of milk to understand what the
term 'half fat' means. Are you really that stupid? This is not good, I'm
really beginning to lose my patience now.
---

I'm not stupid an you're being really bitchy. I have never heard the term,
"half fat" before and guess what? My great grandparents had a dairy farm.
It's just not a commonly used term in this country.

Most foods will spike your sugar if you eat too much of it!

====

Oh really? *snicker* Carbs are what raise blood sugar the most. Protein
can raise it. I say *can* because it really depends on what else you are
eating. And fat delays the abosorption of carbs, so too much fat in a meal
can cause you to spike later. But again, it depends on what all you are
eating. Peanuts are one food that is likely not to cause a spike. They
contain fat, protein and carbs.

===

Have you forgotten? We're not talking about you. This thread is about
Cheryl

====

You didn't mention her name here. You didn't quote anything from her.

And how would I know this?

Did I say everyday? I'm sure Cheryl has more common sense than that. We
know all about your diet and it is not good. Strange how someone who eats
so many carbs thinks she can lecture on them.
===

Ha! My diet is not good? How is it not good? It's very good. I'm not
eating all sorts of crap like a lot of people I know.
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We know about your diet, you've told everyone countless times what you eat.
A healthy assortment of fresh fruit and vegetables doesn't exist in your
world.
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Fruits? Are you seriously telling diabetics to eat fruits? Fruits are high
in carbs. I just posted that I am getting the CSA box again. I used to eat
a TON of vegetables. So many that every dietician I saw told me to eat
less. Vegetables are my favorite foods. But now I have gastroparesis so I
can't eat as many as I used to. Particularly salads. And the last
dietician I saw said that it was a good thing that I don't like fruit
because diabetics shouldn't eat it. She said the only reason they include
it in the meal plans is that most people like it. And of course by "fruit"
I mean things like apples and oranges. I do know that technically,
cucumbers and tomatoes are really fruits and I do eat those things.

What am I having for dinner? A mug of homemade navy bean soup with bacon,
tomatoes, celery, carrots and onions. The onions were dried and the
tomatoes were canned. Beans were dried too.

I will have the last piece of meatloaf for my bedtime snack. And what is in
that you say? Onions, spinach, 4 kinds of bell peppers, carrots, mushrooms,
tomatoes and zuchinni. I make a mix of about half meat, and half veggies.
I do use a little filler but not much. I added the rest of the crushed Ritz
crackers and that probably amounted to 1/4 cup, plus two grated Torta rolls.
But... I had 15 individual meatloaves and they were good sized free form
ones.

And you say that I don't eat vegetables? Hmph.

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Again that was for Cheryl not you. You do remember Cheryl whom this thread
is about. Cheryl as a new user is not going to have your so called
problems.

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And again, how would I know this? You appeared to be replying to *me*. And
how could *Cheryl* be who this thread is about when *I* started this thread
about *my* cookbook? Yeah, I know thread drift and all but... You just
made a seemingly random reply to begin with. Did not put her name in the
reply. And then you muddied the waters further by replying to *me*.

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While I'm at it, I got to speak with three hospital medics last week and
they all basically threw their hands in horror at the idea at re-using
lancets. At least I don't take advice from some office worker even if
he/she works for Bayer.

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Well, good. Let them. Clearly ya'll do things differently in the UK. And
I'm rather glad that I don't live there! Sounds like a really
miserable existence if some of the posters here are any example of what the
people are like there. Thankfully I think the ones that move to the US
become nice. I can't recall any nasty ones that I've met who live here.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> Well, good. Let them. Clearly ya'll do things differently in the UK.
> And I'm rather glad that I don't live there! Sounds like a really
> miserable existence if some of the posters here are any example of what
> the people are like there. Thankfully I think the ones that move to the
> US become nice. I can't recall any nasty ones that I've met who live
> here.

I will bear that in mind.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Well, good. Let them. Clearly ya'll do things differently in the UK.
>> And I'm rather glad that I don't live there! Sounds like a
>> really miserable existence if some of the posters here are any example of
>> what the people are like there. Thankfully I think the ones that move to
>> the US become nice. I can't recall any nasty ones that I've met who live
>> here.
>
> I will bear that in mind.

You are an exception. I've never seen you be rude. It's some others here
that are not leaving a pretty picture in my mind.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Well, good. Let them. Clearly ya'll do things differently in the UK.
>>> And I'm rather glad that I don't live there! Sounds like a
>>> really miserable existence if some of the posters here are any example
>>> of what the people are like there. Thankfully I think the ones that
>>> move to the US become nice. I can't recall any nasty ones that I've met
>>> who live here.
>>
>> I will bear that in mind.
>
> You are an exception. I've never seen you be rude. It's some others here
> that are not leaving a pretty picture in my mind.

I am sure I have my moments, but although some USIANS here are extremely
rude, I don't tar everyone with the same brush.


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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I don't eat fish either.

You mentioned recently that you will probably be in assisted care in
10 years. You need it now.

PS - to Ophy (defender of J).... sorry but this story just gets more
silly as the days go on. Defend her if you want. I'm about over all
this nonsense. There is NO WAY that Julie as we know her here is for
real. NO WAY.

sf wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:35:28 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
> > Isn't there a saying that "fish is brain food".
>
> My husband's father used to say that.
>
> > It's very healthy for
> > you and you live in an area where it's easy to get good quality,
> > fresh-caught fish.
>
> If it doesn't put you into the poor house.

That will never be a problem with you, Mercedes girl.