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jmcquown[_2_] 22-03-2014 04:04 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On 3/21/2014 12:14 PM, Gary wrote:
> barbie gee wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>>> I do not think lowly of any other country. People are just people
>>> everywhere. We are all citizens of Earth. Maybe we do need an
>>> invasion from another planet to bring us all together.

>>
>> Now THAT, I'd love to see!

>
> Rent movies:
> - War of the Worlds


More fun: listen to War of the Worlds as done by Orson Welles on the
radio in 1938. Radio was the way to get information back then. That,
gossip and some newspapers were the only way to know what was going on.
Broadcast late at night on the eve of Halloween... lots of people
believed this was real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6YNHq1qc44

From Wiki: "The show did issue a disclaimer at the beginning of the
show, but the people tuning in late did not hear that announcement and
so a small panic did occur."

Jill

dsi1[_15_] 22-03-2014 05:17 PM

When to add potatoes to a stew.
 
On 3/22/2014 12:18 AM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:13:45 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't think we deserve any special treatment

>
> Oh yes you do... like no other country.
>
>> - a lot of countries
>> think of themselves as the best and rest on their wilted laurels.

>
> Such as?
>
>> What's
>> so wrong about us feeling the same way? Other countries should accept us
>> as we are and we should do the same.

>
> But you don't. That's the problem.
>
>> American have a right to criticize
>> this country because we have a vested interest. Other countries are
>> mostly disinterested parties.

>
> You have a *very* narrow world view and could hardly be more wrong.
> What country is disinterested in the U.S? There isn't one, they have
> to keep an eye on what happens in the U.S, if only for
> self-preservation.
>


I've never thought of this country as demanding interest in itself by
other countries but that's your opinion and I have no problem respecting
it.

brooklyn1 22-03-2014 05:21 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:15:34 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> > I've been here for 2.5 years now. Maybe it's about time all the slow
>> > learners here start paying attention. But then maybe many killfile me
>> > so they have no clue as to my cynical humor. If so, they have no
>> > business commenting on what I say. I joke often with or without
>> > emoticons.

>>
>> And...maybe 'others' need to re-think their idea of humor, and not you? LOL

>
>Certainly I need to curtail my occasional off-the-wall comments. I'll
>try. People that know me well


No one here can possibly know you well... not that there's much to
know... all there is to know about Gary is that he cooks like he
speaks on a phone, not much! LOL You really can't learn much about
someone without speaking with them... from brief encounters on the net
as in email one can be whomever/whatever.

sf[_9_] 22-03-2014 05:36 PM

When to add potatoes to a stew.
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:17:47 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 3/22/2014 12:18 AM, Jeßus wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:13:45 -1000, dsi1
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I don't think we deserve any special treatment

> >
> > Oh yes you do... like no other country.
> >
> >> - a lot of countries
> >> think of themselves as the best and rest on their wilted laurels.

> >
> > Such as?
> >
> >> What's
> >> so wrong about us feeling the same way? Other countries should accept us
> >> as we are and we should do the same.

> >
> > But you don't. That's the problem.
> >
> >> American have a right to criticize
> >> this country because we have a vested interest. Other countries are
> >> mostly disinterested parties.

> >
> > You have a *very* narrow world view and could hardly be more wrong.
> > What country is disinterested in the U.S? There isn't one, they have
> > to keep an eye on what happens in the U.S, if only for
> > self-preservation.
> >

>
> I've never thought of this country as demanding interest in itself by
> other countries but that's your opinion and I have no problem respecting
> it.


We're demanding that other countries do their fair share, if that's
self-interest... then yes, we're totally into ourselves. I wish we
were still an isolationist nation like we were before we got dragged
into WWII - but according to what I read here, some are still finding
fault with that too. It's a classic "caught between a rock and a hard
place" type situation, but if push came to shove - I'd vote for
isolationism.


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Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

Janet Bostwick 22-03-2014 05:47 PM

When to add potatoes to a stew.
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:36:55 -0700, sf > wrote:
snip
>
>We're demanding that other countries do their fair share, if that's
>self-interest... then yes, we're totally into ourselves. I wish we
>were still an isolationist nation like we were before we got dragged
>into WWII - but according to what I read here, some are still finding
>fault with that too. It's a classic "caught between a rock and a hard
>place" type situation, but if push came to shove - I'd vote for
>isolationism.


You'd never get that past the republicans.
Janet US

sf[_9_] 22-03-2014 06:07 PM

When to add potatoes to a stew.
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:47:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:36:55 -0700, sf > wrote:
> snip
> >
> >We're demanding that other countries do their fair share, if that's
> >self-interest... then yes, we're totally into ourselves. I wish we
> >were still an isolationist nation like we were before we got dragged
> >into WWII - but according to what I read here, some are still finding
> >fault with that too. It's a classic "caught between a rock and a hard
> >place" type situation, but if push came to shove - I'd vote for
> >isolationism.

>
> You'd never get that past the republicans.


LOL



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Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

Jeßus[_3_] 22-03-2014 10:48 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:28:09 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> >It was a joke, but not to you foreigner-types evidently.eh)

>>
>> No, it's not funny at all to 'foreigners'.

>
>I do not think lowly of any other country. People are just people
>everywhere. We are all citizens of Earth. Maybe we do need an
>invasion from another planet to bring us all together.
>
>I never intentionally set out to offend others. I sincerely do
>apologize if I did that to you and others. No harm intended.
>
>I can laugh at myself and I wrongly assume sometimes that others can
>too.


Thanks, and it's okay, I can see it was really just a joke now.
It's funny yet also it's not at the same time... depending on how it
was intended :) My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3 days...

Ophelia[_11_] 22-03-2014 10:55 PM

When to resent USAians
 


"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:28:09 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>>
>>> Gary wrote:
>>> >It was a joke, but not to you foreigner-types evidently.eh)
>>>
>>> No, it's not funny at all to 'foreigners'.

>>
>>I do not think lowly of any other country. People are just people
>>everywhere. We are all citizens of Earth. Maybe we do need an
>>invasion from another planet to bring us all together.
>>
>>I never intentionally set out to offend others. I sincerely do
>>apologize if I did that to you and others. No harm intended.
>>
>>I can laugh at myself and I wrongly assume sometimes that others can
>>too.

>
> Thanks, and it's okay, I can see it was really just a joke now.
> It's funny yet also it's not at the same time... depending on how it
> was intended :) My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3 days...


ewwww I can sympathise:( It really drags you down:( Heat and massage
usually helps along with a strong pain killer and a good strong hot toddy
;-)
Plenty of toddies are essential don'tchknow? :))


--
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Jeßus[_3_] 22-03-2014 10:56 PM

When to add potatoes to a stew.
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:17:47 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 3/22/2014 12:18 AM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:13:45 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think we deserve any special treatment

>>
>> Oh yes you do... like no other country.
>>
>>> - a lot of countries
>>> think of themselves as the best and rest on their wilted laurels.

>>
>> Such as?
>>
>>> What's
>>> so wrong about us feeling the same way? Other countries should accept us
>>> as we are and we should do the same.

>>
>> But you don't. That's the problem.
>>
>>> American have a right to criticize
>>> this country because we have a vested interest. Other countries are
>>> mostly disinterested parties.

>>
>> You have a *very* narrow world view and could hardly be more wrong.
>> What country is disinterested in the U.S? There isn't one, they have
>> to keep an eye on what happens in the U.S, if only for
>> self-preservation.
>>

>
>I've never thought of this country as demanding interest in itself by
>other countries but that's your opinion and I have no problem respecting
>it.


Cheers. it's just an perspective from the 'outside', so to speak :)

What I had in mind is, for example, Australia. Whilst we run our own
country for the most part, there are unspoken contraints put upon us
by the U.S. Example - the one and only Australian Prime Minister to go
against the tide by wanting to close U.S bases in Australia was
'dismissed'. Funny that... never happened before or since, because
we've never had another government that has stood up to the U.S. on
any significant issue.

Jeßus[_3_] 22-03-2014 11:02 PM

When to add potatoes to a stew.
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:47:24 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:36:55 -0700, sf > wrote:
>snip
>>
>>We're demanding that other countries do their fair share, if that's
>>self-interest... then yes, we're totally into ourselves. I wish we
>>were still an isolationist nation like we were before we got dragged
>>into WWII - but according to what I read here, some are still finding
>>fault with that too. It's a classic "caught between a rock and a hard
>>place" type situation, but if push came to shove - I'd vote for
>>isolationism.

>
>You'd never get that past the republicans.


Cut to the chase: you'd never get past the military-industrial complex
(or whatever else you prefer to call it). They dragged you into WW2
and continued the game ever since. Even your last legitimate
Republican President issued a public warning about them (to deaf ears,
evidently).

brooklyn1 23-03-2014 01:06 AM

When to resent USAians
 
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:14:08 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>barbie gee wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> > I do not think lowly of any other country. People are just people
>> > everywhere. We are all citizens of Earth. Maybe we do need an
>> > invasion from another planet to bring us all together.

>>
>> Now THAT, I'd love to see!

>
>Rent movies:
>- War of the Worlds
>- Independence Day
>- Twilight Zone episode, "To Serve Man"


You forgot Creature From the Black Lagoon, and
Superman and The Molemen.
http://www.ovguide.com/superman-and-...00000000ad82fa

Jeßus[_3_] 23-03-2014 01:21 AM

When to resent USAians
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 22:55:05 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:28:09 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> >It was a joke, but not to you foreigner-types evidently.eh)
>>>>
>>>> No, it's not funny at all to 'foreigners'.
>>>
>>>I do not think lowly of any other country. People are just people
>>>everywhere. We are all citizens of Earth. Maybe we do need an
>>>invasion from another planet to bring us all together.
>>>
>>>I never intentionally set out to offend others. I sincerely do
>>>apologize if I did that to you and others. No harm intended.
>>>
>>>I can laugh at myself and I wrongly assume sometimes that others can
>>>too.

>>
>> Thanks, and it's okay, I can see it was really just a joke now.
>> It's funny yet also it's not at the same time... depending on how it
>> was intended :) My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
>> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3 days...

>
>ewwww I can sympathise:( It really drags you down:( Heat and massage
>usually helps along with a strong pain killer and a good strong hot toddy
>;-)
> Plenty of toddies are essential don'tchknow? :))


I at least have a few old tramadols to take the edge off the pain...
and yes, a fair amount of alcohol too :). This is day 4, and I seem to
be on the tail end of the 'episode'... yay.


Jeßus[_3_] 23-03-2014 01:22 AM

When to resent USAians
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 22:55:05 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:28:09 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> >It was a joke, but not to you foreigner-types evidently.eh)
>>>>
>>>> No, it's not funny at all to 'foreigners'.
>>>
>>>I do not think lowly of any other country. People are just people
>>>everywhere. We are all citizens of Earth. Maybe we do need an
>>>invasion from another planet to bring us all together.
>>>
>>>I never intentionally set out to offend others. I sincerely do
>>>apologize if I did that to you and others. No harm intended.
>>>
>>>I can laugh at myself and I wrongly assume sometimes that others can
>>>too.

>>
>> Thanks, and it's okay, I can see it was really just a joke now.
>> It's funny yet also it's not at the same time... depending on how it
>> was intended :) My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
>> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3 days...

>
>ewwww I can sympathise:( It really drags you down:( Heat and massage
>usually helps along with a strong pain killer and a good strong hot toddy
>;-)
> Plenty of toddies are essential don'tchknow? :))


I at least have a few old tramadols to take the edge off the pain...
and yes, a fair amount of alcohol too :). This is day 4, and I seem to
be on the tail end of the 'episode'... yay.


dsi1[_15_] 23-03-2014 09:00 AM

When to add potatoes to a stew.
 
On 3/22/2014 12:56 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
> Cheers. it's just an perspective from the 'outside', so to speak :)
>
> What I had in mind is, for example, Australia. Whilst we run our own
> country for the most part, there are unspoken contraints put upon us
> by the U.S. Example - the one and only Australian Prime Minister to go
> against the tide by wanting to close U.S bases in Australia was
> 'dismissed'. Funny that... never happened before or since, because
> we've never had another government that has stood up to the U.S. on
> any significant issue.
>

I feel your pain. Nobody wants foreign military bases in their country.
Heck, we didn't like our own bases in our town back in the late 60's and
early 70's. Things were pretty weird going back then. These days it's
all cool - I hardly notice the grunts around. They fit in well.
Occasionally, a huge military transport will appear to land in the
middle of our town and lend a surrealistic air to the place. Those
things are so big they look like they're just hanging in mid-air.



Ophelia[_11_] 23-03-2014 10:17 AM

When to resent USAians
 


"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 22:55:05 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:28:09 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> >It was a joke, but not to you foreigner-types evidently.eh)
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's not funny at all to 'foreigners'.
>>>>
>>>>I do not think lowly of any other country. People are just people
>>>>everywhere. We are all citizens of Earth. Maybe we do need an
>>>>invasion from another planet to bring us all together.
>>>>
>>>>I never intentionally set out to offend others. I sincerely do
>>>>apologize if I did that to you and others. No harm intended.
>>>>
>>>>I can laugh at myself and I wrongly assume sometimes that others can
>>>>too.
>>>
>>> Thanks, and it's okay, I can see it was really just a joke now.
>>> It's funny yet also it's not at the same time... depending on how it
>>> was intended :) My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
>>> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3 days...

>>
>>ewwww I can sympathise:( It really drags you down:( Heat and massage
>>usually helps along with a strong pain killer and a good strong hot toddy
>>;-)
>> Plenty of toddies are essential don'tchknow? :))

>
> I at least have a few old tramadols to take the edge off the pain...
> and yes, a fair amount of alcohol too :). This is day 4, and I seem to
> be on the tail end of the 'episode'... yay.


Good, but you need to keep up the treatment ... just cos ;-)


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Ophelia[_11_] 23-03-2014 10:18 AM

When to resent USAians
 


"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 22:55:05 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:28:09 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> >It was a joke, but not to you foreigner-types evidently.eh)
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's not funny at all to 'foreigners'.
>>>>
>>>>I do not think lowly of any other country. People are just people
>>>>everywhere. We are all citizens of Earth. Maybe we do need an
>>>>invasion from another planet to bring us all together.
>>>>
>>>>I never intentionally set out to offend others. I sincerely do
>>>>apologize if I did that to you and others. No harm intended.
>>>>
>>>>I can laugh at myself and I wrongly assume sometimes that others can
>>>>too.
>>>
>>> Thanks, and it's okay, I can see it was really just a joke now.
>>> It's funny yet also it's not at the same time... depending on how it
>>> was intended :) My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
>>> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3 days...

>>
>>ewwww I can sympathise:( It really drags you down:( Heat and massage
>>usually helps along with a strong pain killer and a good strong hot toddy
>>;-)
>> Plenty of toddies are essential don'tchknow? :))

>
> I at least have a few old tramadols to take the edge off the pain...
> and yes, a fair amount of alcohol too :). This is day 4, and I seem to


How many Tramadols did you say you've had ? <g>

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Ophelia[_11_] 23-03-2014 01:59 PM

When to resent USAians
 


"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> ewwww I can sympathise:( It really drags you down:( Heat and massage
>> usually helps along with a strong pain killer and a good strong hot toddy
>> ;-)
>> Plenty of toddies are essential don'tchknow? :))

>
> O... how is your husband's back now? Did he heal from it? I caught
> hell here for offering some simple "hot shower" therapy. So goes
> RFC. ;)


He is fine thanks:)) It cleared up very quickly but I did say it was almost
certainly because he had been lifting heavy stuff. The hot shower and meds
did the job very quickly so thank you very much for sharing your
experiences, they were very useful:) BTW he reckoned the hot shower did the
best:)


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sf[_9_] 23-03-2014 03:45 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:21:29 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> > No one here can possibly know you well... not that there's much to
> > know... all there is to know about Gary is that he cooks like he
> > speaks on a phone, not much! LOL You really can't learn much about
> > someone without speaking with them... from brief encounters on the net
> > as in email one can be whomever/whatever.

>
> If you talk to people long enough, you get to know them somewhat. Lies
> tend to be forgotten and will be exposed eventually. I have a general
> gist of personalities here.
>

Most people here are straight up... except for those who use socks (of
which there are a minimum of two). I'm pretty sure the froggers come
from elsewhere, but I wouldn't put it past them either.


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

jmcquown[_2_] 23-03-2014 04:04 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On 3/23/2014 11:45 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:21:29 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> No one here can possibly know you well... not that there's much to
>>> know... all there is to know about Gary is that he cooks like he
>>> speaks on a phone, not much! LOL You really can't learn much about
>>> someone without speaking with them... from brief encounters on the net
>>> as in email one can be whomever/whatever.

>>
>> If you talk to people long enough, you get to know them somewhat. Lies
>> tend to be forgotten and will be exposed eventually. I have a general
>> gist of personalities here.
>>

> Most people here are straight up... except for those who use socks (of
> which there are a minimum of two). I'm pretty sure the froggers come
> from elsewhere, but I wouldn't put it past them either.
>

I see no reason to lie even though I'm not likely to ever meet [the
collective] you in person or talk to you on the phone. I've "known"
many of the posters here for years. I have no reason to think everyone
is lying. I'm sure some people do, although I don't see the point.

Jill

George Leppla 23-03-2014 04:28 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On 3/23/2014 11:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> I see no reason to lie even though I'm not likely to ever meet [the
> collective] you in person or talk to you on the phone. I've "known"
> many of the posters here for years. I have no reason to think everyone
> is lying. I'm sure some people do, although I don't see the point.
>
> Jill
>


Becca and I have met hundreds and hundreds of online friends in person
over the years. Some of them have become very close friends.. to where
we visit each other's homes, etc. Most remain casual friends.

For the most part, the people who I meet behave the same way in person
as they do online. I believe that well adjusted people who are capable
of having normal relationships in real life do not have the need to
create a different online "persona". Frankly, the jerks who insult and
harass people online would never have the stones to act the same way in
a face-to-face meeting.

Online communities like rfc give insecure people the chance to puff up
their chests and pretend to be something they are not. They can boast
and brag and bully to their heart's content.... knowing that there are
few consequences for bad behavior. Insult the wrong person online and
you get back words. Say the same insult face-to-face and you might end
up with some lose teeth. Online bullies are basically cowards... hiding
behind their keyboards, afraid to face anyone (friend or foe) in real life.

I feel sorry for people like this. How sad must your life be to have to
invent a separate personality just so you can talk to strangers?

George L





jmcquown[_2_] 23-03-2014 05:08 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On 3/23/2014 12:28 PM, George Leppla wrote:
> Online communities like rfc give insecure people the chance to puff up
> their chests and pretend to be something they are not. They can boast
> and brag and bully to their heart's content.... knowing that there are
> few consequences for bad behavior. Insult the wrong person online and
> you get back words. Say the same insult face-to-face and you might end
> up with some lose teeth. Online bullies are basically cowards... hiding
> behind their keyboards, afraid to face anyone (friend or foe) in real life.
>
> I feel sorry for people like this. How sad must your life be to have to
> invent a separate personality just so you can talk to strangers?
>
> George L


I agree, George. I don't understand it. Speaking personally, I don't
have a separate online "persona". I am who I am. Take it or leave it.
Don't like it/me? Put me in your killfile. Trust me, it won't hurt a
bit. :)

Jill

Bloke Down The Pub 24-03-2014 01:27 AM

When to resent USAians
 

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Janet of the UK variety wrote:
>> LOL. The "most advanced country in the world", eh

>
> It's interesting how so many non-Americans seem to have an issue with
> the USA.
>
> Keep in mind, all of you foreigners...don't f__k with us. We are quite
> capable of kicking your asses at any time. You might run but you can
> not hide. ;)
>
> G.


No need to hide, if we tell you where we are you wont find us ;)

Mike



Michel Boucher[_3_] 24-03-2014 01:49 PM

When to resent USAians
 
Jeßus > wrote in
:

> My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3
> days...


When that happewns I use a cane and I find that it helps more than
painkillers and aromatherapy or whatever people try to throw at
you. A cane will help you take pressure off at those critical
junctures when you need to stand or sit.

A lot of people refuse to use a cane because they have the
impression that it's for "old people" or they've been told that
once they start they'll be stuck with it for the rest of their
lives, neither of which is true.

--

Socialism never took root in America because the
poor there see themselves not as an exploited
proletariat but as temporarily embarassed
millionaires. - John Steinbeck


Jeßus[_3_] 24-03-2014 10:35 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 08:49:18 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

>Jeßus > wrote in
:
>
>> My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
>> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3
>> days...

>
>When that happewns I use a cane and I find that it helps more than
>painkillers and aromatherapy or whatever people try to throw at
>you. A cane will help you take pressure off at those critical
>junctures when you need to stand or sit.
>
>A lot of people refuse to use a cane because they have the
>impression that it's for "old people" or they've been told that
>once they start they'll be stuck with it for the rest of their
>lives, neither of which is true.


Yes, I came to the conclusion myself that a cane would really help,
and I will look for one. It'd sure make it easier getting out of bed
when my back is bad. Many thanks.

Ed Pawlowski 25-03-2014 12:47 AM

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On 3/24/2014 6:35 PM, Jeßus wrote:

> Yes, I came to the conclusion myself that a cane would really help,
> and I will look for one. It'd sure make it easier getting out of bed
> when my back is bad. Many thanks.
>


There are many aids available for people with physical limitations.
There is even a bed cane to assist in getting in or out of bed. You
will see a lot of stuff at www.goldviolin.com but can often find better
prices elsewhere.

S Viemeister[_2_] 25-03-2014 01:07 AM

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On 3/24/2014 6:35 PM, Jeßus wrote:

> Yes, I came to the conclusion myself that a cane would really help,
> and I will look for one. It'd sure make it easier getting out of bed
> when my back is bad. Many thanks.
>

I have n adjustable-height hiking pole (which doubles as a camera
monopod). It is incredibly useful when my back decides to make my life
miserable.
I can even use the handle end to hook things closer to me when I'm
sitting down.

dsi1[_15_] 25-03-2014 01:27 AM

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On 3/24/2014 3:07 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 3/24/2014 6:35 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> Yes, I came to the conclusion myself that a cane would really help,
>> and I will look for one. It'd sure make it easier getting out of bed
>> when my back is bad. Many thanks.
>>

> I have n adjustable-height hiking pole (which doubles as a camera
> monopod). It is incredibly useful when my back decides to make my life
> miserable.
> I can even use the handle end to hook things closer to me when I'm
> sitting down.


My dad has a hiking pole with a nitrogen gas shock absorber. He uses it
a walking stick. I'd like to sell these things but they're made in
Sweden and cost $200. Guess, I'll have to wait for the cheap Chinese
knockoffs.

Dave Smith[_1_] 25-03-2014 02:00 PM

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On 2014-03-24 9:27 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 3/24/2014 3:07 PM, S Viemeister wrote:


> My dad has a hiking pole with a nitrogen gas shock absorber. He uses it
> a walking stick. I'd like to sell these things but they're made in
> Sweden and cost $200. Guess, I'll have to wait for the cheap Chinese
> knockoffs.



I got a set of walking poles for my wife because they were recommended
by her physiotherapist when she sprained her foot a few months ago. I
have been using them myself lately. Holy cow, those things really put
some spring into your step. I used the other way when I was hiking in a
very hilly and very icy park. They are great. The trick is to have them
set properly and to use them to push yourself forward, not just for
stability.

Michel Boucher[_3_] 25-03-2014 02:17 PM

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Dave Smith > wrote in news:7_fYu.52556
:

> Holy cow, those things really put
> some spring into your step.


I think the appropriate expression is "holy liftin'!!".

http://www.dooryard.ca/holy-liftin.html

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proletariat but as temporarily embarassed
millionaires. - John Steinbeck


Ophelia[_11_] 25-03-2014 02:40 PM

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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 08:49:18 -0500, Michel Boucher
> > wrote:
>
>>Jeßus > wrote in
m:
>>
>>> My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
>>> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3
>>> days...

>>
>>When that happewns I use a cane and I find that it helps more than
>>painkillers and aromatherapy or whatever people try to throw at
>>you. A cane will help you take pressure off at those critical
>>junctures when you need to stand or sit.
>>
>>A lot of people refuse to use a cane because they have the
>>impression that it's for "old people" or they've been told that
>>once they start they'll be stuck with it for the rest of their
>>lives, neither of which is true.

>
> Yes, I came to the conclusion myself that a cane would really help,
> and I will look for one. It'd sure make it easier getting out of bed
> when my back is bad. Many thanks.


I have crutches and a wheel chair from when I was really ill and I use the
crutches whenever I have probs like your back. If you can keep your balance
you take the stress away from the strain. DH used them for a few days when
his back was bad recently.



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dsi1[_15_] 25-03-2014 06:11 PM

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On 3/25/2014 4:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-03-24 9:27 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 3/24/2014 3:07 PM, S Viemeister wrote:

>
>> My dad has a hiking pole with a nitrogen gas shock absorber. He uses it
>> a walking stick. I'd like to sell these things but they're made in
>> Sweden and cost $200. Guess, I'll have to wait for the cheap Chinese
>> knockoffs.

>
>
> I got a set of walking poles for my wife because they were recommended
> by her physiotherapist when she sprained her foot a few months ago. I
> have been using them myself lately. Holy cow, those things really put
> some spring into your step. I used the other way when I was hiking in a
> very hilly and very icy park. They are great. The trick is to have them
> set properly and to use them to push yourself forward, not just for
> stability.


I guess a walking pole is for folks that don't want to completely give
in to old age and use a cane. It certainly is sporty looking - all you
need to do is to carry some skis. They look to be a little tricky to use
though.

zxcvbob 25-03-2014 06:27 PM

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Jeßus wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 08:49:18 -0500, Michel Boucher
> > wrote:
>
>> Jeßus > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
>>> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3
>>> days...

>> When that happewns I use a cane and I find that it helps more than
>> painkillers and aromatherapy or whatever people try to throw at
>> you. A cane will help you take pressure off at those critical
>> junctures when you need to stand or sit.
>>
>> A lot of people refuse to use a cane because they have the
>> impression that it's for "old people" or they've been told that
>> once they start they'll be stuck with it for the rest of their
>> lives, neither of which is true.

>
> Yes, I came to the conclusion myself that a cane would really help,
> and I will look for one. It'd sure make it easier getting out of bed
> when my back is bad. Many thanks.



I use a cane when the sidewalks and parking lots are slippery.
(Employer decided maintaining the parking lots in winter was a needless
expense; they barely do the sidewalks now) It's also handy when my back
has an episode, but that hasn't been in 3 or 4 years, thank God.

Besides, canes are dashing ;) It makes me look sophisticated like Fred
Astaire.

Bob

Ophelia[_11_] 25-03-2014 06:43 PM

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"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
> Jeßus wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 08:49:18 -0500, Michel Boucher
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Jeßus > wrote in
>>> :
>>>> My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
>>>> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3
>>>> days...
>>> When that happewns I use a cane and I find that it helps more than
>>> painkillers and aromatherapy or whatever people try to throw at you. A
>>> cane will help you take pressure off at those critical junctures when
>>> you need to stand or sit.
>>> A lot of people refuse to use a cane because they have the impression
>>> that it's for "old people" or they've been told that once they start
>>> they'll be stuck with it for the rest of their lives, neither of which
>>> is true.

>>
>> Yes, I came to the conclusion myself that a cane would really help,
>> and I will look for one. It'd sure make it easier getting out of bed
>> when my back is bad. Many thanks.

>
>
> I use a cane when the sidewalks and parking lots are slippery. (Employer
> decided maintaining the parking lots in winter was a needless expense;
> they barely do the sidewalks now) It's also handy when my back has an
> episode, but that hasn't been in 3 or 4 years, thank God.
>
> Besides, canes are dashing ;) It makes me look sophisticated like Fred
> Astaire.


I am sure you don't need a cane to look dashing, Bob ;-)

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dsi1[_17_] 25-03-2014 06:47 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:17:26 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:11:10 -1000, dsi1
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 3/25/2014 4:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> >> On 2014-03-24 9:27 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> >>> On 3/24/2014 3:07 PM, S Viemeister wrote:

>
> >>

>
> >>> My dad has a hiking pole with a nitrogen gas shock absorber. He uses it

>
> >>> a walking stick. I'd like to sell these things but they're made in

>
> >>> Sweden and cost $200. Guess, I'll have to wait for the cheap Chinese

>
> >>> knockoffs.

>
> >>

>
> >>

>
> >> I got a set of walking poles for my wife because they were recommended

>
> >> by her physiotherapist when she sprained her foot a few months ago. I

>
> >> have been using them myself lately. Holy cow, those things really put

>
> >> some spring into your step. I used the other way when I was hiking in a

>
> >> very hilly and very icy park. They are great. The trick is to have them

>
> >> set properly and to use them to push yourself forward, not just for

>
> >> stability.

>
> >

>
> >I guess a walking pole is for folks that don't want to completely give

>
> >in to old age and use a cane. It certainly is sporty looking - all you

>
> >need to do is to carry some skis. They look to be a little tricky to use

>
> >though.

>
>
>
> Well presumably you're not old and have a jaundiced view of old age.
>
> You better hope you become old aged though!


The way I reckon it, hope won't do a thing to help you get to be old. I'm approaching 60. My mom died when she was 60. My guess is that 60 year old bracket is going to be tough to break trough. I'm hoping I'm wrong but in the end, we're all fate's bitch.

George Leppla 25-03-2014 07:03 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On 3/25/2014 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> The way I reckon it, hope won't do a thing to help you get to be old. I'm approaching 60. My mom died when she was 60. My guess is that 60 year old bracket is going to be tough to break trough. I'm hoping I'm wrong but in the end, we're all fate's bitch.



My father died at 42, Mom was 58. 3 of my grandparents died in their
50's as well as one of my brothers. One grandmother died at 64. I
turned 64 two months ago so I am running the clock longer than anyone
else in the family.

The good news is that I was recently very ill and in the hospital for 4
days. While I was there, every department sent someone to check me out
(except obstetrics) and it turns out that once I heal up from what put
me in there, I might live to be pretty old. Heart, lungs, kidney,
liver, circulation, etc... all very good.

I was surprised and very pleased. Life is good and I'm far from being
done with it.

George L

dsi1[_15_] 25-03-2014 07:08 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On 3/25/2014 9:03 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> On 3/25/2014 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> The way I reckon it, hope won't do a thing to help you get to be old.
>> I'm approaching 60. My mom died when she was 60. My guess is that 60
>> year old bracket is going to be tough to break trough. I'm hoping I'm
>> wrong but in the end, we're all fate's bitch.

>
>
> My father died at 42, Mom was 58. 3 of my grandparents died in their
> 50's as well as one of my brothers. One grandmother died at 64. I
> turned 64 two months ago so I am running the clock longer than anyone
> else in the family.
>
> The good news is that I was recently very ill and in the hospital for 4
> days. While I was there, every department sent someone to check me out
> (except obstetrics) and it turns out that once I heal up from what put
> me in there, I might live to be pretty old. Heart, lungs, kidney,
> liver, circulation, etc... all very good.
>
> I was surprised and very pleased. Life is good and I'm far from being
> done with it.
>
> George L


Well hopefully, 60 will be a milestone age for me - not a tombstone one.
Live long and prosper!

Nancy Young[_7_] 25-03-2014 08:21 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On 3/25/2014 3:03 PM, George Leppla wrote:

> The good news is that I was recently very ill and in the hospital for 4
> days.


I'm sorry to hear that. When you disappear I figure you two are
on a cruise.

nancy

Dave Smith[_1_] 25-03-2014 09:06 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On 2014-03-25 2:27 PM, zxcvbob wrote:

> I use a cane when the sidewalks and parking lots are slippery. (Employer
> decided maintaining the parking lots in winter was a needless expense;
> they barely do the sidewalks now) It's also handy when my back has an
> episode, but that hasn't been in 3 or 4 years, thank God.
>
> Besides, canes are dashing ;) It makes me look sophisticated like Fred
> Astaire.
>



I thought it was the dancing that made him look dashing and
sophisticated. The can was as a prop, not to prop him up. ;-)

Ophelia[_11_] 25-03-2014 09:07 PM

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> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:43:56 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
>>> Jeßus wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 08:49:18 -0500, Michel Boucher
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jeßus > wrote in
>>>>> :
>>>>>> My sense of humour isn't the best at the moment as my
>>>>>> lower back has decided to have an 'episode' for the past 3
>>>>>> days...
>>>>> When that happewns I use a cane and I find that it helps more than
>>>>> painkillers and aromatherapy or whatever people try to throw at you.
>>>>> A
>>>>> cane will help you take pressure off at those critical junctures when
>>>>> you need to stand or sit.
>>>>> A lot of people refuse to use a cane because they have the impression
>>>>> that it's for "old people" or they've been told that once they start
>>>>> they'll be stuck with it for the rest of their lives, neither of which
>>>>> is true.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I came to the conclusion myself that a cane would really help,
>>>> and I will look for one. It'd sure make it easier getting out of bed
>>>> when my back is bad. Many thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> I use a cane when the sidewalks and parking lots are slippery. (Employer
>>> decided maintaining the parking lots in winter was a needless expense;
>>> they barely do the sidewalks now) It's also handy when my back has an
>>> episode, but that hasn't been in 3 or 4 years, thank God.
>>>
>>> Besides, canes are dashing ;) It makes me look sophisticated like Fred
>>> Astaire.

>>
>>I am sure you don't need a cane to look dashing, Bob ;-)

>
> Just difficult to dash with a cane :)


Yers <g>

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Dave Smith[_1_] 25-03-2014 09:10 PM

When to resent USAians
 
On 2014-03-25 2:11 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>> I got a set of walking poles for my wife because they were recommended
>> by her physiotherapist when she sprained her foot a few months ago. I
>> have been using them myself lately. Holy cow, those things really put
>> some spring into your step. I used the other way when I was hiking in a
>> very hilly and very icy park. They are great. The trick is to have them
>> set properly and to use them to push yourself forward, not just for
>> stability.

>
> I guess a walking pole is for folks that don't want to completely give
> in to old age and use a cane. It certainly is sporty looking - all you
> need to do is to carry some skis. They look to be a little tricky to use
> though.


You must be confusing walking poles with something else. I just started
trying them recently and it is like having a rocket propelled walking
gait. You use your arms to push you along and you get an upper body
workout as well. I was really impressed with the extra boost the other
day when I was hiking those steep trails. The provided extra stability
on the ice and a helped keep me moving up the hills.




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