On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 22:31:30 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:



>
>But, I didn't mention the name of the dealer, so word of mouth does little,
>even among the 2 or 3 folks here who could patronize the dealer. I'm just
>a curmudgeon who doesn't like the idea of killing a plant just to say thanks
>for coming in today, just as I prefer a live tree to killing a pine to
>commemorate the birth of Christ.


Killing a plant? It is not like that plant is in the wild and
supporting other life around it. Rose bushes are good for a couple of
years and would not exist in quantity if not to be used for cutting.
Once productivity falls off they are pulled out and replaced. Same
with tree farms for Christmas trees. Those trees would not be planted
and raised for a number of years if not for the potential sale.

If you want to argue for or against their existence, you can use the
point of fuel sources used to grow them and care for them. Some hot
houses are burning fossil fuels to maintain the temperature for
decorative plants and flowers. We also burn a lot of fuel so you can
have watermelon in January and lobster in Iowa.

"The Cook" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:02:50 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"l not -l" > wrote in message
aweb.com...
>>
>>> But, I didn't mention the name of the dealer, so word of mouth does
>>> little,
>>> even among the 2 or 3 folks here who could patronize the dealer. I'm
>>> just
>>> a curmudgeon who doesn't like the idea of killing a plant just to say
>>> thanks
>>> for coming in today, just as I prefer a live tree to killing a pine to
>>> commemorate the birth of Christ.
>>
>>I am with you on this. The children will send me flowers ... which are
>>very beautiful but they die off so fast I would much prefer a
>>plant I
>>don't tell them because I don't like to hurt them.
>
> My younger son has it figured out. On Mother's day both boys came
> down and helped get the yard in shape. At Thanksgiving younger one
> brought bulbs and planted them. We will see this spring what we have.

Wonderful. Do you think your kids would speak to mine ) Awww mine so
mean well and the flowers are sent with so much love, which is why I can't
say anything. They all live so far away and love to send me gifts. I am
not complaining ... but could your kids speak to mine??? )


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On 2/15/2014 5:31 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 15-Feb-2014, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> On 2/15/2014 12:25 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>
>>> The car dealer "service advisor" offered a rose when I paid for my oil
>>> change. Is there no business that has the good sense to just conduct
>>> business as usual on Saint Valentine's Day?
>>>
>> Okay. Regardless of the day, I wouldn't object to being offered a rose.
>> (It's not as if hare krishna's accosted you in an airport.) It's just
>> good marketing. After all, you mentioned it here, didn't you? Word of
>> mouth advertizing. It works wonders. And it's practically free!
>
> But, I didn't mention the name of the dealer, so word of mouth does little,
> even among the 2 or 3 folks here who could patronize the dealer. I'm just
> a curmudgeon who doesn't like the idea of killing a plant just to say thanks
> for coming in today, just as I prefer a live tree to killing a pine to
> commemorate the birth of Christ.
>
You didn't mention the name of the dealer, no. But I'll bet plenty of
people were thrilled to get that rose and surely told their friends
about it. No one killed a rose bush for those roses. My mom used to
grow them; rose bushes *need* cutting so they'll keep producing.

Jill

On 2/15/2014 6:25 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2014-02-15, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of tradition on Valentine's Day that goes back hundreds
>> of years. The tradition of sending cards and chocolates began in the
>> UK circa 18th century.
>
> Happy day after Valentine's Day:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74A8wFv7qnw
>
> nb
>
Pretty funny, nb!

Jill

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 16:09:18 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-02-15 1:52 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>
>> Puleeeze. Some women are not that shallow. Sure, a gesture is nice.
>> Usually much more appreciated when Hallmark or some candy company did
>> NOT suggest it. My 2 cents.
>>
>
>
>Oh? My wife would be really upset if I did not get something a card and
>a gift and either take her out for dinner or cook something special for
>her. My brother has to take his wife out for dinner on Valentine Day.
>That really annoys him because because he also has to take her out for a
>nice dinner on her birthday, which is 6 days earlier.
>
>I was almost in trouble yesterday because of my lack of excitement over
>the commercialized "holiday". Luckily, as we were coming home yesterday
>afternoon there was a person on the radio talking about how one sided
>Valentine Day is, that men are expected to do all sorts of special
>things for their wives and girlfriends, but that the best the guys can
>expect is a card.

That's why the guys need a day, i think steak and BJ day has been
suggested!

JB

On 2/15/2014 4:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-02-15 1:52 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>
>> Puleeeze. Some women are not that shallow. Sure, a gesture is nice.
>> Usually much more appreciated when Hallmark or some candy company did
>> NOT suggest it. My 2 cents.
>>
>
>
> Oh? My wife would be really upset if I did not get something a card and
> a gift and either take her out for dinner or cook something special for
> her. My brother has to take his wife out for dinner on Valentine Day.
> That really annoys him because because he also has to take her out for a
> nice dinner on her birthday, which is 6 days earlier.
>
My SO and I agreed not to do anything for Valentine's this year. No
cards, no flowers. Flowers are pretty but they just die. Besides, he
got me a beautiful floral arrangement for Christmas. I don't celebrate
Christmas so it really was a surprise!

http://tinypic.com/m/i1b7ky/4

> I was almost in trouble yesterday because of my lack of excitement over
> the commercialized "holiday". Luckily, as we were coming home yesterday
> afternoon there was a person on the radio talking about how one sided
> Valentine Day is, that men are expected to do all sorts of special
> things for their wives and girlfriends, but that the best the guys can
> expect is a card.
>
A couple of years ago I had the local candy confectioner send him some
assorted chocolates. Valentine's Day shouldn't be a one-way street.
Either do something for each other or don't. But please, not due to
expectations set up by a bunch of marketing execs.

Jill

On 2/15/2014 1:15 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:54:06 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/15/2014 12:25 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>> On 15-Feb-2014, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>> The car dealer "service advisor" offered a rose when I paid for my oil
>>> change. Is there no business that has the good sense to just conduct
>>> business as usual on Saint Valentine's Day?
>>>
>> Okay. Regardless of the day, I wouldn't object to being offered a rose.
>> (It's not as if hare krishna's accosted you in an airport.) It's just
>> good marketing. After all, you mentioned it here, didn't you? Word of
>> mouth advertizing. It works wonders. And it's practically free!
>>
>> Jill
>
> What's even worse is the customary presentation of flowers to a
> potential mate! It's like "Here, have some plant's pretty sex organs
> as a token of my desire to get into your pants!"
>
> ;-)
>
> John Kuthe...
>
It takes a lot more than flowers to get there.

Jill

On 2014-02-15 20:51, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/15/2014 1:15 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:54:06 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/15/2014 12:25 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>>> On 15-Feb-2014, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The car dealer "service advisor" offered a rose when I paid for my oil
>>>> change. Is there no business that has the good sense to just conduct
>>>> business as usual on Saint Valentine's Day?
>>>>
>>> Okay. Regardless of the day, I wouldn't object to being offered a rose.
>>> (It's not as if hare krishna's accosted you in an airport.) It's just
>>> good marketing. After all, you mentioned it here, didn't you? Word of
>>> mouth advertizing. It works wonders. And it's practically free!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> What's even worse is the customary presentation of flowers to a
>> potential mate! It's like "Here, have some plant's pretty sex organs
>> as a token of my desire to get into your pants!"
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
> It takes a lot more than flowers to get there.
>



Gin or champagne usually works better ;-)

On 2/15/2014 9:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-02-15 20:51, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 2/15/2014 1:15 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:54:06 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/15/2014 12:25 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>>>> On 15-Feb-2014, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The car dealer "service advisor" offered a rose when I paid for my oil
>>>>> change. Is there no business that has the good sense to just conduct
>>>>> business as usual on Saint Valentine's Day?
>>>>>
>>>> Okay. Regardless of the day, I wouldn't object to being offered a
>>>> rose.
>>>> (It's not as if hare krishna's accosted you in an airport.) It's
>>>> just
>>>> good marketing. After all, you mentioned it here, didn't you? Word of
>>>> mouth advertizing. It works wonders. And it's practically free!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> What's even worse is the customary presentation of flowers to a
>>> potential mate! It's like "Here, have some plant's pretty sex organs
>>> as a token of my desire to get into your pants!"
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>> It takes a lot more than flowers to get there.
>>
>
> Gin or champagne usually works better ;-)
>
LOL, Dave! But truly, I despise gin. Champagne... these days, meh. I
cook with champagne on rare occasions.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/15/2014 9:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2014-02-15 20:51, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/15/2014 1:15 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:54:06 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/15/2014 12:25 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>>>>> On 15-Feb-2014, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The car dealer "service advisor" offered a rose when I paid for
>>>>>> my oil
>>>>>> change. Is there no business that has the good sense to just
>>>>>> conduct
>>>>>> business as usual on Saint Valentine's Day?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Okay. Regardless of the day, I wouldn't object to being offered a
>>>>> rose.
>>>>> (It's not as if hare krishna's accosted you in an airport.) It's
>>>>> just
>>>>> good marketing. After all, you mentioned it here, didn't you?
>>>>> Word of
>>>>> mouth advertizing. It works wonders. And it's practically free!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> What's even worse is the customary presentation of flowers to a
>>>> potential mate! It's like "Here, have some plant's pretty sex organs
>>>> as a token of my desire to get into your pants!"
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>> It takes a lot more than flowers to get there.
>>>
>>
>> Gin or champagne usually works better ;-)
>>
> LOL, Dave! But truly, I despise gin. Champagne... these days, meh.
> I cook with champagne on rare occasions.
>
> Jill
Why? Real champagne? That's just dumb.

On 2/15/2014 4:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> I was almost in trouble yesterday because of my lack of excitement over
> the commercialized "holiday". Luckily, as we were coming home yesterday
> afternoon there was a person on the radio talking about how one sided
> Valentine Day is, that men are expected to do all sorts of special
> things for their wives and girlfriends, but that the best the guys can
> expect is a card.

What? No extra special nookie?

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Cheryl

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 22:16:19 -0500, Earl__ > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> On 2/15/2014 9:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-15 20:51, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 2/15/2014 1:15 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:54:06 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/15/2014 12:25 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15-Feb-2014, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The car dealer "service advisor" offered a rose when I paid for
>>>>>>> my oil
>>>>>>> change. Is there no business that has the good sense to just
>>>>>>> conduct
>>>>>>> business as usual on Saint Valentine's Day?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay. Regardless of the day, I wouldn't object to being offered a
>>>>>> rose.
>>>>>> (It's not as if hare krishna's accosted you in an airport.) It's
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> good marketing. After all, you mentioned it here, didn't you?
>>>>>> Word of
>>>>>> mouth advertizing. It works wonders. And it's practically free!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> What's even worse is the customary presentation of flowers to a
>>>>> potential mate! It's like "Here, have some plant's pretty sex organs
>>>>> as a token of my desire to get into your pants!"
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>
>>>> It takes a lot more than flowers to get there.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gin or champagne usually works better ;-)
>>>
>> LOL, Dave! But truly, I despise gin. Champagne... these days, meh.
>> I cook with champagne on rare occasions.
>>
>> Jill
>Why? Real champagne? That's just dumb.

Southern Comfort! Been spreadiing the legs of southern girls for 100
years!

John Kuthe...

On 2/15/2014 10:43 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 22:16:19 -0500, Earl__ > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/15/2014 9:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2014-02-15 20:51, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 2/15/2014 1:15 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:54:06 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/15/2014 12:25 PM, l not -l wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 15-Feb-2014, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The car dealer "service advisor" offered a rose when I paid for
>>>>>>>> my oil
>>>>>>>> change. Is there no business that has the good sense to just
>>>>>>>> conduct
>>>>>>>> business as usual on Saint Valentine's Day?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay. Regardless of the day, I wouldn't object to being offered a
>>>>>>> rose.
>>>>>>> (It's not as if hare krishna's accosted you in an airport.) It's
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> good marketing. After all, you mentioned it here, didn't you?
>>>>>>> Word of
>>>>>>> mouth advertizing. It works wonders. And it's practically free!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's even worse is the customary presentation of flowers to a
>>>>>> potential mate! It's like "Here, have some plant's pretty sex organs
>>>>>> as a token of my desire to get into your pants!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>
>>>>> It takes a lot more than flowers to get there.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gin or champagne usually works better ;-)
>>>>
>>> LOL, Dave! But truly, I despise gin. Champagne... these days, meh.
>>> I cook with champagne on rare occasions.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> Why? Real champagne? That's just dumb.
>
> Southern Comfort! Been spreadiing the legs of southern girls for 100
> years!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
Southern comfort, nope. But thanks, John, for encouraging my personal
troll. Someone has obviously never tasted champagne, much less
champagne cream sauce. Gee, that's not how he and his good ol' boy
buddy in Zephyrhills Florida eat.

Jill

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 14:08:54 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>We seem to have a bit of a produce shortage up here. Stuff like carrots
>and greens anyway. What we do have isn't all that fresh!

Whoever is growing the produce must be shipping all the good stuff up
to Canada. Everything in my local grocery stores looks lovely.

Doris

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm sure many of you ran into this with the latest weekly grocery store
> > ads. First it was Superbowl snacky-stuff, then...V-Day.
> >
> > The Publix weekly ad (came out on Thursday) was mostly devoted to pushing
> > boxes of candy, heart shaped cookies from the bakery, bouquets of flowers
> > and overpriced bottles of wine. I'm sure that's great for the guy who
> > went oh hell, I forgot about Valentine's Day!
> >
> > It didn't feature much in the way of what I consider actual "groceries".
> > You know, meat, dairy, cheeses. I sure could stand another sale on chuck
> > roast @$2.99/lb! It did show some nice looking produce. Still, if
> > possible I'd rather buy it from local farmers rather than what they have
> > trucked up from the home base in Florida. Just sayin'
>
> We seem to have a bit of a produce shortage up here. Stuff like carrots
> and greens anyway. What we do have isn't all that fresh!

and it's going to get worse, much worse

On 2/15/2014 6:26 PM, The Cook wrote:

> My younger son has it figured out. On Mother's day both boys came
> down and helped get the yard in shape. At Thanksgiving younger one
> brought bulbs and planted them. We will see this spring what we have.

That is very sweet!

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Cheryl

On 2/15/2014 10:16 PM, Earl__ wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:

>>>
>> LOL, Dave! But truly, I despise gin. Champagne... these days, meh. I
>> cook with champagne on rare occasions.
>>
>> Jill
> Why? Real champagne? That's just dumb.

It makes a really good tempura batter.

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Cheryl

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 16:09:18 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2014-02-15 1:52 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Puleeeze. Some women are not that shallow. Sure, a gesture is nice.
>>> Usually much more appreciated when Hallmark or some candy company did
>>> NOT suggest it. My 2 cents.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Oh? My wife would be really upset if I did not get something a card and
>>a gift and either take her out for dinner or cook something special for
>>her. My brother has to take his wife out for dinner on Valentine Day.
>>That really annoys him because because he also has to take her out for a
>>nice dinner on her birthday, which is 6 days earlier.
>>
>>I was almost in trouble yesterday because of my lack of excitement over
>>the commercialized "holiday". Luckily, as we were coming home yesterday
>>afternoon there was a person on the radio talking about how one sided
>>Valentine Day is, that men are expected to do all sorts of special
>>things for their wives and girlfriends, but that the best the guys can
>>expect is a card.
>
> That's why the guys need a day, i think steak and BJ day has been
> suggested!

Sounds like a good idea, but it is a pity if it only happens one day a year.


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On Saturday, February 15, 2014 9:53:11 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Someone has obviously never tasted champagne, much less
>
> champagne cream sauce. Gee, that's not how he and his good ol' boy
>
> buddy in Zephyrhills Florida eat.
>
When we lived in Tampa, I kid you not, we'd drive up to Zephyrhills
just for the topography. Lake Wales was even better, but quite a bit
further away. I know. My inner hillbilly is showing.
>
> Jill

--B

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:31:30 PM UTC-6, l not -l wrote:
>
>
> But, I didn't mention the name of the dealer, so word of mouth does little,
>
> even among the 2 or 3 folks here who could patronize the dealer. I'm just
>
> a curmudgeon who doesn't like the idea of killing a plant just to say thanks
>
> for coming in today, just as I prefer a live tree to killing a pine to
>
> commemorate the birth of Christ.
>
>
>
> I always appreciate the $7 discount they inexplicably give me each visit;
>
> and the wi-fi in the waiting area. If I still ate such things I'd
>
> appreciate the Dad's Oatmeal Cookies (my favorite, crunchy, not chewy) and
>
> frozen custard or ice cream that are always available in the waiting area.
>
> Not so much the coffee - the dealer's idea of good coffee and mine differ by
>
> a wide margin.

I often bring a small canister of half&half with me when I go places that
have complimentary coffee. The car dealer, Bommarito Chevrolet South,
has Starbuck's, which is very adequate.

--B

Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> I often bring a small canister of half&half with me when I go places that
> have complimentary coffee. The car dealer, Bommarito Chevrolet South,
> has Starbuck's, which is very adequate.

Starbuck's is the best coffee scam ever. Second only to the mega sales
of bottled water. I've only tried it once. Skip all the fancy-pants
combos that they push. I had just plain coffee, and they had a
problem with that. No, just a plain cup of black coffee. It wasn't
bad but it was NOT anything special. 7-11 sells much better coffee
for 1/3 the price.

G.

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:46:57 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>
>> I often bring a small canister of half&half with me when I go places that
>> have complimentary coffee. The car dealer, Bommarito Chevrolet South,
>> has Starbuck's, which is very adequate.
>
>Starbuck's is the best coffee scam ever. Second only to the mega sales
>of bottled water. I've only tried it once. Skip all the fancy-pants
>combos that they push. I had just plain coffee, and they had a
>problem with that. No, just a plain cup of black coffee. It wasn't
>bad but it was NOT anything special. 7-11 sells much better coffee
>for 1/3 the price.
>
>G.

True. Starbucks built a zillion$ business out of sellling $3+ cups of
coffee! Who woulda thunk it?

Well, not hard to figure out actually! After the United States was
making zillions of cups of cheap coffee flavored WATER!! For YEARS!!!
And what's worst, boiling it!! That's right folks! Mom's old
percolater could render the best coffee in the world into rubbush,
just by boiling it!

John Kuthe...

On 2/16/2014 11:46 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:02:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> It didn't feature much in the way of what I consider actual "groceries".
>> You know, meat, dairy, cheeses.
>
> The Day After candy sales at the grocery store yesterday sucked.
> Heart-shaped boxes of overpriced, cheap chocolates and lollipops that
> are no steal even at 66% off. I also checked Walmart and it looked
> like a hurricane had swept through that aisle - opened boxes with
> candy missing and all sorts of the stuff on the floor. The typical
> slovenly Walmart clientele had their day, for sure! And the employee
> did nothing to even pick the stuff up off the floor (a safety hazard).
>
Weeeel... you could always pretend a slip & fall and file a liability
claim against Walmart. LOL

I worked for a company that wrote software for handling liability claims
for businesses very much like WalMart. Some of the claims were
absolutely ridiculous.

Store surveillence had a video of a woman who filed a liability claim.
She really *did* slip and fall on a wet floor in a WalMart type store.
There were none of those little caution signs around saying "Wet Floor".
BUT... she looked around, saw there were no witnesses, so she got up
and waited until other people were in that same aisle. Then she
*staged* the slip & fall again. Idiots apparently don't know most big
box stores have security cameras.

Jill

On 2/16/2014 11:46 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

> The Day After candy sales at the grocery store yesterday sucked.
> Heart-shaped boxes of overpriced, cheap chocolates and lollipops that
> are no steal even at 66% off.

I think my supermarket must sell their holiday candy to the
dollar store contingent because i never see leftovers, never
mind on sale. Woosh, it's gone.

> I also checked Walmart and it looked
> like a hurricane had swept through that aisle - opened boxes with
> candy missing and all sorts of the stuff on the floor.

I went to Walmart a few months ago because their website said
they stocked this elusive paint item I needed. Waste of time,
and not an employee in sight aside from cashiers. What really
bugged me was the sheer disarray of the paint aisles, and it seems
no one thought twice about testing the spray paints on the shelving.

Get me out of here!

> The typical
> slovenly Walmart clientele had their day, for sure! And the employee
> did nothing to even pick the stuff up off the floor (a safety hazard).

Doesn't seem to be much pride going on there. I'm not speaking
for all Walmarts, but if that's representative, yikes.

nancy

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 01:22:21 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 2/15/2014 10:16 PM, Earl__ wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
>
> >>>
> >> LOL, Dave! But truly, I despise gin. Champagne... these days, meh. I
> >> cook with champagne on rare occasions.
> >>
> >> Jill
> > Why? Real champagne? That's just dumb.
>
> It makes a really good tempura batter.

I use cheap champagne to make champagne chicken. Gin and champagne
together (doesn't have to be the expensive champagne either) make
great mixed drinks too... in fact they make a couple of good ones: the
classic is called a French 75 and my personal favorite (with rosemary
undertones) is the Ophelia.


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Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 10:46:04 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:
....
>The day after Valentines is the worst of the day after candy holidays.
>
>-sw

Not around my house!! LOTS of leaky Chocolate Covered Cherries still
left!! YUM!!!

I'd never set foot in another MalWart, ever!!!

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 00:55:35 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 2/15/2014 6:26 PM, The Cook wrote:
>
> > My younger son has it figured out. On Mother's day both boys came
> > down and helped get the yard in shape. At Thanksgiving younger one
> > brought bulbs and planted them. We will see this spring what we have.
>
> That is very sweet!

It is!


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:46:57 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> >
> > I often bring a small canister of half&half with me when I go places that
> > have complimentary coffee. The car dealer, Bommarito Chevrolet South,
> > has Starbuck's, which is very adequate.
>
> Starbuck's is the best coffee scam ever. Second only to the mega sales
> of bottled water. I've only tried it once. Skip all the fancy-pants
> combos that they push. I had just plain coffee, and they had a
> problem with that. No, just a plain cup of black coffee. It wasn't
> bad but it was NOT anything special. 7-11 sells much better coffee
> for 1/3 the price.
>

7-11's coffee is fine by me. I like McDonald's coffee too. No reason
to hunt down a Starbucks anymore when all you want is a regular cup of
Joe for the trip to work.


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On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:16:08 -0600, John Kuthe >
wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:46:57 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> >>
> >> I often bring a small canister of half&half with me when I go places that
> >> have complimentary coffee. The car dealer, Bommarito Chevrolet South,
> >> has Starbuck's, which is very adequate.
> >
> >Starbuck's is the best coffee scam ever. Second only to the mega sales
> >of bottled water. I've only tried it once. Skip all the fancy-pants
> >combos that they push. I had just plain coffee, and they had a
> >problem with that. No, just a plain cup of black coffee. It wasn't
> >bad but it was NOT anything special. 7-11 sells much better coffee
> >for 1/3 the price.
> >
> >G.
>
> True. Starbucks built a zillion$ business out of sellling $3+ cups of
> coffee! Who woulda thunk it?

There was a time when outside of specialty coffee houses that either
roasted their own or bought from a fancy pants roaster, Starbucks was
the only chain where you could find decent beans. They changed the
way America looks at coffee and now we can find a decent cup just
about everywhere. Nothing bad about that at all.
>
> Well, not hard to figure out actually! After the United States was
> making zillions of cups of cheap coffee flavored WATER!! For YEARS!!!
> And what's worst, boiling it!! That's right folks! Mom's old
> percolater could render the best coffee in the world into rubbush,
> just by boiling it!
>
> John Kuthe...



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On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:18:22 -0500, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> Doesn't seem to be much pride going on there. I'm not speaking
> for all Walmarts, but if that's representative, yikes.
>
They don't pay their employees enough (or staff fully enough) for
anyone to take pride in anything. Show up, do what you're told and go
home.



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We didn't even exchange cards. No roses here and no hurt feelings. Went early to our fave Fri nite haunt, 'twas crowded and had to wait a bit, but they take no reservations and I was thankful that there was no special menu.. Those special dinners are usually overpriced and not to everyone's liking.

My other fave spot couldn't seat us til 8:45, which I knew meant a bit after 9, so I reneged.

At this age, it's almost 'just another day'.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 01:22:21 -0500, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/15/2014 10:16 PM, Earl__ wrote:
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> >>>
>> >> LOL, Dave! But truly, I despise gin. Champagne... these days, meh. I
>> >> cook with champagne on rare occasions.
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> > Why? Real champagne? That's just dumb.
>>
>> It makes a really good tempura batter.
>
> I use cheap champagne to make champagne chicken. Gin and champagne
> together (doesn't have to be the expensive champagne either) make
> great mixed drinks too... in fact they make a couple of good ones: the
> classic is called a French 75 and my personal favorite (with rosemary
> undertones) is the Ophelia.

*cough*
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On Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:28:06 AM UTC-8, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:46:57 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > I often bring a small canister of half&half with me when I go places that
>
> > > have complimentary coffee. The car dealer, Bommarito Chevrolet South,
>
> > > has Starbuck's, which is very adequate.
>
> >
>
> > Starbuck's is the best coffee scam ever. Second only to the mega sales
>
> > of bottled water. I've only tried it once. Skip all the fancy-pants
>
> > combos that they push. I had just plain coffee, and they had a
>
> > problem with that. No, just a plain cup of black coffee. It wasn't
>
> > bad but it was NOT anything special. 7-11 sells much better coffee
>
> > for 1/3 the price.
>
> >
>
>
>
> 7-11's coffee is fine by me. I like McDonald's coffee too. No reason
>
> to hunt down a Starbucks anymore when all you want is a regular cup of
>
> Joe for the trip to work.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Good Food.
>
> Good Friends.
>
> Good Memories.

Me too, McDonald's coffee is good, always fresh.

Julie P

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:46:34 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:28:05 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:51:26 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> l not -l wrote:
>
> >> >
>
> >> > The most ridiculous V-day item I saw at the supermarket was the two-pack of
>
> >> > heart-shaped filet mignon - what a bargain at only $2 more per pound than
>
> >> > usual.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > The car dealer "service advisor" offered a rose when I paid for my oil
>
> >> > change. Is there no business that has the good sense to just conduct
>
> >> > business as usual on Saint Valentine's Day?
>
> >>
>
> >> Valentine's Day is just a marketing ploy to drum up over inflated
>
> >> business for many companies....flowers, candy, cards, jewelry. If you
>
> >> have a significant other that you truly love, every single day of the
>
> >> year can and should be "valentine's day." February 14th should be
>
> >> just one day out of 365 to express your love for each other.
>
> >>
>
> >It should be, but it isn't. Flower producers are impacted, so they
>
> >jack up their wholesale prices, which means retail prices are sky high
>
> >- especially for red roses. Flower shop roses are astronomically
>
> >priced for V-Day...
>
>
>
> Well I looked at the local candy shop Chocolate Chocolate Chocolate
>
> for their signature chocolates and it was like $42/lb! So Undercut
>
> them at $39/lb and my Chocolate Covered Cherries are vastly better
>
> than anything CVhocolate Chocolate Chocolate offers!
>
>
>
> John Kuthe...

How many in a pound?

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:30:38 -0800, sf > wrote:

....
>There was a time when outside of specialty coffee houses that either
>roasted their own or bought from a fancy pants roaster, Starbucks was
>the only chain where you could find decent beans. They changed the
>way America looks at coffee and now we can find a decent cup just
>about everywhere. Nothing bad about that at all.

Truedat! More than any other singler entity, Starbucks proliferated
the idea of a good cup of coffee to U.S.! When I went down to Costa
Rica in 1997 I could not find a cup of bad coffee anywhere! I mean,
they grow coffee down there and everywhere has good coffee. From fancy
restaurants to little roadside stands. I am SO GLAD we (the U.S.)
finally got a clue!

John Kuthe...

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:41:52 PM UTC-8, Cheryl wrote:
> On 2/15/2014 4:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>
>
> > I was almost in trouble yesterday because of my lack of excitement over
>
> > the commercialized "holiday". Luckily, as we were coming home yesterday
>
> > afternoon there was a person on the radio talking about how one sided
>
> > Valentine Day is, that men are expected to do all sorts of special
>
> > things for their wives and girlfriends, but that the best the guys can
>
> > expect is a card.
>
>
>
> What? No extra special nookie?
>
>
>
> --
>
> ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
>
> Cheryl



Lol, Cheryl, I think Golden One has already mentioned an option.

Julie P

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:26:56 PM UTC-8, The Cook wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:02:50 -0000, "Ophelia"
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >"l not -l" > wrote in message
>
> web.com...
>
> >
>
> >> But, I didn't mention the name of the dealer, so word of mouth does
>
> >> little,
>
> >> even among the 2 or 3 folks here who could patronize the dealer. I'm
>
> >> just
>
> >> a curmudgeon who doesn't like the idea of killing a plant just to say
>
> >> thanks
>
> >> for coming in today, just as I prefer a live tree to killing a pine to
>
> >> commemorate the birth of Christ.
>
> >
>
> >I am with you on this. The children will send me flowers ... which are
>
> >very beautiful but they die off so fast I would much prefer a plant I
>
> >don't tell them because I don't like to hurt them.
>
>
>
> My younger son has it figured out. On Mother's day both boys came
>
> down and helped get the yard in shape. At Thanksgiving younger one
>
> brought bulbs and planted them. We will see this spring what we have.
>
> --
>
> Susan N.
>
>
>
> "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
>
> 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
>
> Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)



This is soooo lovely! What fun to see how it will look when in bloom. I heart this idea!

Julie P

On 2/16/2014 12:33 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:18:22 -0500, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> Doesn't seem to be much pride going on there. I'm not speaking
>> for all Walmarts, but if that's representative, yikes.
>>
> They don't pay their employees enough (or staff fully enough) for
> anyone to take pride in anything. Show up, do what you're told and go
> home.

I worked some low paying jobs, bank tellers made slave wages.
I still had some pride in a job well done. I know I'm not the
only person like that. I'd guess they have serious morale
problems.

nancy

On Sunday, February 16, 2014 9:53:32 AM UTC-8, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/16/2014 12:33 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:18:22 -0500, Nancy Young
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Doesn't seem to be much pride going on there. I'm not speaking
>
> >> for all Walmarts, but if that's representative, yikes.
>
> >>
>
> > They don't pay their employees enough (or staff fully enough) for
>
> > anyone to take pride in anything. Show up, do what you're told and go
>
> > home.
>
>
>
> I worked some low paying jobs, bank tellers made slave wages.
>
> I still had some pride in a job well done. I know I'm not the
>
> only person like that. I'd guess they have serious morale
>
> problems.
>
>
>
> nancy


They do. If you haven't read this book I recommend it, a real eye- opener

http://www.amazon.com/Nickel-Dimed-N...ckel+and+dimed

or

http://tinyurl.com/kh4uu7x

Julie P

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 17:43:27 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 01:22:21 -0500, Cheryl >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2/15/2014 10:16 PM, Earl__ wrote:
> >> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >> LOL, Dave! But truly, I despise gin. Champagne... these days, meh. I
> >> >> cook with champagne on rare occasions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jill
> >> > Why? Real champagne? That's just dumb.
> >>
> >> It makes a really good tempura batter.
> >
> > I use cheap champagne to make champagne chicken. Gin and champagne
> > together (doesn't have to be the expensive champagne either) make
> > great mixed drinks too... in fact they make a couple of good ones: the
> > classic is called a French 75 and my personal favorite (with rosemary
> > undertones) is the Ophelia.
>
> *cough*

You have the recipe, I sent it to you a long time ago.


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