I am only asking here in the hopes that someone has a solution. Everything
worked fine until the wee hours of the morning. Then Windows Mail started
acting up. Was telling me that it couldn't open because another instance of
it was already loaded (it wasn't) or that there was low memory. A couple of
reboots solved that. The problem was then that it kept wanting to compact
the messages but it wouldn't work. And it kept restarting, only to repeat.
I might have a lead on that but in the meantime, I got it to where it never
asks to compact.

The big problem I have now is that alt.support.diabetes won't load. It
tells me that there are 28 messages and yet when I click on it, the top of
the screen is blank and below it tells me that it can't load the folder.
Cause may be low disk space or low memory. Neither is the case. I know
that the newsgroup is still up and running.

I also know that others have had the same problem with just one newsgroup
not loading (not this same group though) while running Thunderbird. I have
Windows Mail and am running Vista 32 bit. One suggestion was to change to
Windows Live Mail but I fear new problems with that. Am also using Eternal
September.

Any suggestions about why I can no longer get this group? Obvious fixes
like unsubscribing, resubscribing, resetting the list and rebooting do not
help.

Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this! Have posted to
other, more suitable newsgroups but no clues as to the group not loading.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 23:27:19 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
> I also know that others have had the same problem with just one newsgroup
> not loading (not this same group though) while running Thunderbird. I have
> Windows Mail and am running Vista 32 bit. One suggestion was to change to
> Windows Live Mail but I fear new problems with that. Am also using Eternal
> September.
>
> Any suggestions about why I can no longer get this group? Obvious fixes
> like unsubscribing, resubscribing, resetting the list and rebooting do not
> help.
>
> Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this! Have posted to
> other, more suitable newsgroups but no clues as to the group not loading.

Sounds like a server issue. Did you switch servers to see if you have
the same problem on the other one too?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 23:27:19 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>>
>> I also know that others have had the same problem with just one newsgroup
>> not loading (not this same group though) while running Thunderbird. I
>> have
>> Windows Mail and am running Vista 32 bit. One suggestion was to change
>> to
>> Windows Live Mail but I fear new problems with that. Am also using
>> Eternal
>> September.
>>
>> Any suggestions about why I can no longer get this group? Obvious fixes
>> like unsubscribing, resubscribing, resetting the list and rebooting do
>> not
>> help.
>>
>> Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this! Have posted to
>> other, more suitable newsgroups but no clues as to the group not loading.
>
> Sounds like a server issue. Did you switch servers to see if you have
> the same problem on the other one too?

No. Not yet but... All of the other newsgroups are on the same server.
There was a blip earlier where I couldn't post or receive to any of them but
that is now resolved. Someone on the computer group thought this related to
the compacting. Said perhaps that NG was too full and needed compacted but
this one here seems to have a ton more posts than any other on my list.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 23:27:19 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>>
>> I also know that others have had the same problem with just one newsgroup
>> not loading (not this same group though) while running Thunderbird. I
>> have
>> Windows Mail and am running Vista 32 bit. One suggestion was to change
>> to
>> Windows Live Mail but I fear new problems with that. Am also using
>> Eternal
>> September.
>>
>> Any suggestions about why I can no longer get this group? Obvious fixes
>> like unsubscribing, resubscribing, resetting the list and rebooting do
>> not
>> help.
>>
>> Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this! Have posted to
>> other, more suitable newsgroups but no clues as to the group not loading.
>
> Sounds like a server issue. Did you switch servers to see if you have
> the same problem on the other one too?

A better question: how do we get rfc to not load for her?

In article >, says...

> A better question: how do we get rfc to not load for her?

We're doing our best. Please hold the line..an engineer is on the
way, just diverted to pick up the raccoon.

RFC maintenance depot.

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 03:40:28 -0800, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 23:27:19 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I also know that others have had the same problem with just one
>>>> newsgroup
>>>> not loading (not this same group though) while running Thunderbird. I
>>>> have
>>>> Windows Mail and am running Vista 32 bit. One suggestion was to change
>>>> to
>>>> Windows Live Mail but I fear new problems with that. Am also using
>>>> Eternal
>>>> September.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions about why I can no longer get this group? Obvious
>>>> fixes
>>>> like unsubscribing, resubscribing, resetting the list and rebooting do
>>>> not
>>>> help.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this! Have posted to
>>>> other, more suitable newsgroups but no clues as to the group not
>>>> loading.
>>>
>>> Sounds like a server issue. Did you switch servers to see if you have
>>> the same problem on the other one too?
>>
>>A better question: how do we get rfc to not load for her?
>>
>
> Or maybe you instead !

Sounds better)

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 03:40:28 -0800, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 23:27:19 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I also know that others have had the same problem with just one
>>>> newsgroup
>>>> not loading (not this same group though) while running Thunderbird. I
>>>> have
>>>> Windows Mail and am running Vista 32 bit. One suggestion was to change
>>>> to
>>>> Windows Live Mail but I fear new problems with that. Am also using
>>>> Eternal
>>>> September.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions about why I can no longer get this group? Obvious
>>>> fixes
>>>> like unsubscribing, resubscribing, resetting the list and rebooting do
>>>> not
>>>> help.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this! Have posted to
>>>> other, more suitable newsgroups but no clues as to the group not
>>>> loading.
>>>
>>> Sounds like a server issue. Did you switch servers to see if you have
>>> the same problem on the other one too?
>>
>>A better question: how do we get rfc to not load for her?
>>
>
> Or maybe you instead !

As a gift to the newsgroup, I will promise never to post again if Julie
makes and keeps the same promise.

"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...

> As a gift to the newsgroup, I will promise never to post again if Julie
> makes and keeps the same promise.

Why would that be a gift? The gift would be if you quit dogging Julie's
posts and simply stop reading them if it bothers you.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> As a gift to the newsgroup, I will promise never to post again if Julie
>> makes and keeps the same promise.
>
> Why would that be a gift? The gift would be if you quit dogging Julie's
> posts and simply stop reading them if it bothers you.
>
> Cheri

Well said!

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> As a gift to the newsgroup, I will promise never to post again if Julie
>> makes and keeps the same promise.
>
> Why would that be a gift? The gift would be if you quit dogging Julie's
> posts and simply stop reading them if it bothers you.

Clearly he or she gets something out of being nasty. Otherwise they
wouldn't do it.

On 2013-11-25 4:18 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> As a gift to the newsgroup, I will promise never to post again if
>> Julie makes and keeps the same promise.
>
> Why would that be a gift? The gift would be if you quit dogging Julie's
> posts and simply stop reading them if it bothers you.
>
It is hard to avoid them when so many people reply to her and quote her
idiocy.

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 06:45:26 -0800, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>A better question: how do we get rfc to not load for her?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or maybe you instead !
>>
>>As a gift to the newsgroup, I will promise never to post again if Julie
>>makes and keeps the same promise.
>>
> Not a gift I am looking for - tell me - if you don't care for her
> posts why don't you kf her, or just not read them ?
>
> Whatever - but pls don't use the royal WE and include me in your nasty
> messages.

oh, she IS KF'd. Calm down - I don't even know who YOU are, so why would
you think that WE meant "you and me"?

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 06:45:26 -0800, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>A better question: how do we get rfc to not load for her?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or maybe you instead !
>>
>>As a gift to the newsgroup, I will promise never to post again if Julie
>>makes and keeps the same promise.
>>
> Not a gift I am looking for - tell me - if you don't care for her
> posts why don't you kf her, or just not read them ?
>
> Whatever - but pls don't use the royal WE and include me in your nasty
> messages.


TY for saying that. I should have read ahead.

Cheri

Julie Bove wrote:

> Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this! Have posted
> to other, more suitable newsgroups but no clues as to the group not
> loading.

Looks like the local archive for that group in your PC got corrupted. Each
group ios archived as a kind of a little database (not that little if we
talk about RFC)
Have a look he
http://www.softspire.com/how-to-loca...re-folder.html
If you don't need to preserve old messages, identify the folder where email
and news messages are stored by clicking on the "Store folder" button, then
identify the file of that newsgroup and delete it.
In Outlook Express, which Windows Mail is derived from, the newsgroup
archive files were named after the newsgroup itself, like
rec.food.cooking.dbx. NOTE: the extension may differ, once it wad dbx, I
don't know what they actually use, anyway you should be able to recognise
the right file.

BTW, I don't use Windows Mail so I couldn't verify the process step by step
--
"Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
Anthelme Brillat Savarin

"ViLco" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this! Have posted
>> to other, more suitable newsgroups but no clues as to the group not
>> loading.
>
> Looks like the local archive for that group in your PC got corrupted. Each
> group ios archived as a kind of a little database (not that little if we
> talk about RFC)
> Have a look he
> http://www.softspire.com/how-to-loca...re-folder.html
> If you don't need to preserve old messages, identify the folder where
> email and news messages are stored by clicking on the "Store folder"
> button, then identify the file of that newsgroup and delete it.
> In Outlook Express, which Windows Mail is derived from, the newsgroup
> archive files were named after the newsgroup itself, like
> rec.food.cooking.dbx. NOTE: the extension may differ, once it wad dbx, I
> don't know what they actually use, anyway you should be able to recognise
> the right file.
>
> BTW, I don't use Windows Mail so I couldn't verify the process step by
> step
> --
> "Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole"
> Anthelme Brillat Savarin

Thanks! I will save this and try to do that later.

On Monday, November 25, 2013 12:27:19 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:

Go to TOOLS in FF and clear all past HISTORY and ALL COOKIES
and CACHE then start all over.

If that doesn't work...throw the computer into the trash bin and get
a new one.
==========

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, November 25, 2013 12:27:19 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Go to TOOLS in FF and clear all past HISTORY and ALL COOKIES
> and CACHE then start all over.
>
> If that doesn't work...throw the computer into the trash bin and get
> a new one.
> ==========

I don't know what FF is. I do know how to clear the cache. I didn't
actually try that. Thanks!

On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:14:45 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I don't know what FF is.

FF is Firefox.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:14:45 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't know what FF is.
>
> FF is Firefox.

Oh... I thought of that but never used it. Didn't even know it was still
available.

sf wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:14:45 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> > I don't know what FF is.
>
> FF is Firefox.

For me, FF stands for Farm Fresh. That's my regular grocery store and
many entries in my checkbook for debit to FF. heheh

G.

On 11/24/2013 9:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I am only asking here in the hopes that someone has a solution.
> Everything worked fine until the wee hours of the morning. Then Windows
> Mail started acting up. Was telling me that it couldn't open because
> another instance of it was already loaded (it wasn't) or that there was
> low memory. A couple of reboots solved that. The problem was then that
> it kept wanting to compact the messages but it wouldn't work. And it
> kept restarting, only to repeat. I might have a lead on that but in the
> meantime, I got it to where it never asks to compact.
>
> The big problem I have now is that alt.support.diabetes won't load. It
> tells me that there are 28 messages and yet when I click on it, the top
> of the screen is blank and below it tells me that it can't load the
> folder. Cause may be low disk space or low memory. Neither is the
> case. I know that the newsgroup is still up and running.
>
> I also know that others have had the same problem with just one
> newsgroup not loading (not this same group though) while running
> Thunderbird. I have Windows Mail and am running Vista 32 bit. One
> suggestion was to change to Windows Live Mail but I fear new problems
> with that. Am also using Eternal September.
>
> Any suggestions about why I can no longer get this group? Obvious fixes
> like unsubscribing, resubscribing, resetting the list and rebooting do
> not help.
>
> Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this! Have posted to
> other, more suitable newsgroups but no clues as to the group not loading.

You could unsubscribe from the NG and then subscribe again. That's what
works for me although I don't know what program you're using (Windows
Mail?) alt.support.diabetes seems like a lively newsgroup. I predict
that it will only get more lively. By "lively" I mean it's a little
nutty was well as being highly active - but you already know about that.

On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:51:12 PM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
> On 11/24/2013 9:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > I am only asking here in the hopes that someone has a solution.
>
> > Everything worked fine until the wee hours of the morning. Then Windows
>
> > Mail started acting up. Was telling me that it couldn't open because
>
> > another instance of it was already loaded (it wasn't) or that there was
>
> > low memory. A couple of reboots solved that. The problem was then that
>
> > it kept wanting to compact the messages but it wouldn't work. And it
>
> > kept restarting, only to repeat. I might have a lead on that but in the
>
> > meantime, I got it to where it never asks to compact.
>
> >
>
> > The big problem I have now is that alt.support.diabetes won't load. It
>
> > tells me that there are 28 messages and yet when I click on it, the top
>
> > of the screen is blank and below it tells me that it can't load the
>
> > folder. Cause may be low disk space or low memory. Neither is the
>
> > case. I know that the newsgroup is still up and running.
>
> >
>
> > I also know that others have had the same problem with just one
>
> > newsgroup not loading (not this same group though) while running
>
> > Thunderbird. I have Windows Mail and am running Vista 32 bit. One
>
> > suggestion was to change to Windows Live Mail but I fear new problems
>
> > with that. Am also using Eternal September.
>
> >
>
> > Any suggestions about why I can no longer get this group? Obvious fixes
>
> > like unsubscribing, resubscribing, resetting the list and rebooting do
>
> > not help.
>
> >
>
> > Thanks for any light you might be able to shed on this! Have posted to
>
> > other, more suitable newsgroups but no clues as to the group not loading.
>
>
>
> You could unsubscribe from the NG and then subscribe again. That's what
>
> works for me although I don't know what program you're using (Windows
>
> Mail?) alt.support.diabetes seems like a lively newsgroup. I predict
>
> that it will only get more lively. By "lively" I mean it's a little
>
> nutty was well as being highly active - but you already know about that.

She got it fixed. Computer shop found viruses...she doesn't know
how she got them.
Probably from those "health" sites she goes to.
She'll be back on here in no time.

===