"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2013-11-24 2:24 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> No kidding. Some parents never should have been. I know of many horror
>>> stories of young kids growing up in very bad environments. Many of
>>> those adult children fill our prison populations now. Some have gone
>>> on to be successful but many others are just messed up adults.
>>>
>>> G.
>>
>>
>> Then there are those that grow up in good environments and still go very
>> wrong.
>>
>
> Consider the numbers and the types of crimes. While there may be the
> occasional well bred and wealthy killer, far more of the killers have a
> disadvantaged background, little money, bad parents, bad neighbourhoods
> and bad choices. Seriously, look at class pictures of kids in preppy
> private schools and compare them with a class picture from an inner city
> school. Consider the odds of kids in those two pictures being convicted or
> or a victim of a violent crime.
>


So, what's your point? I didn't say all, I said some, and *some* very
privileged preppy kids do turn out bad...like the Menendez Brothers, Philip
Markoff...just to name a couple.

Cheri

On 11/24/2013 6:10 PM, Cheri wrote:

>>
>> Consider the numbers and the types of crimes. While there may be the
>> occasional well bred and wealthy killer, far more of the killers have
>> a disadvantaged background, little money, bad parents, bad
>> neighbourhoods and bad choices. Seriously, look at class pictures of
>> kids in preppy private schools and compare them with a class picture
>> from an inner city school. Consider the odds of kids in those two
>> pictures being convicted or or a victim of a violent crime.
>>
>
>
> So, what's your point? I didn't say all, I said some, and *some* very
> privileged preppy kids do turn out bad...like the Menendez Brothers,
> Philip Markoff...just to name a couple.
>
\
I would have thought that my point was pretty obvious..... that there
are a small number or violent crimes committed by the supposedly well
bred. You can name a small number of them because their being rich and
their being the exceptional case makes headlines. Meanwhile, many
thousands of murders are committed by the more or less disenfranchised.
You may hear of one or two preppy murders per year in the US. Meanwhile
there are close to 400 murders in Detroit alone. Internationally there
is a pretty high corelation between poverty and murder rates.

Exceptions do not make the rule, but feel free to live in denial.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/24/2013 6:10 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Consider the numbers and the types of crimes. While there may be the
>>> occasional well bred and wealthy killer, far more of the killers have
>>> a disadvantaged background, little money, bad parents, bad
>>> neighbourhoods and bad choices. Seriously, look at class pictures of
>>> kids in preppy private schools and compare them with a class picture
>>> from an inner city school. Consider the odds of kids in those two
>>> pictures being convicted or or a victim of a violent crime.
>>>
>>
>>
>> So, what's your point? I didn't say all, I said some, and *some* very
>> privileged preppy kids do turn out bad...like the Menendez Brothers,
>> Philip Markoff...just to name a couple.
>>
> \
> I would have thought that my point was pretty obvious..... that there are
> a small number or violent crimes committed by the supposedly well bred.
> You can name a small number of them because their being rich and their
> being the exceptional case makes headlines. Meanwhile, many thousands of
> murders are committed by the more or less disenfranchised. You may hear of
> one or two preppy murders per year in the US. Meanwhile there are close to
> 400 murders in Detroit alone. Internationally there is a pretty high
> corelation between poverty and murder rates.
>
> Exceptions do not make the rule, but feel free to live in denial.


I would have thought that my point was pretty obvious too, but you chose to
take exception, so feel free to argue the point with yourself.

Cheri

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 20:55:23 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 11/24/2013 6:10 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Consider the numbers and the types of crimes. While there may be the
> >> occasional well bred and wealthy killer, far more of the killers have
> >> a disadvantaged background, little money, bad parents, bad
> >> neighbourhoods and bad choices. Seriously, look at class pictures of
> >> kids in preppy private schools and compare them with a class picture
> >> from an inner city school. Consider the odds of kids in those two
> >> pictures being convicted or or a victim of a violent crime.
> >>
> >
> >
> > So, what's your point? I didn't say all, I said some, and *some* very
> > privileged preppy kids do turn out bad...like the Menendez Brothers,
> > Philip Markoff...just to name a couple.
> >
> \
> I would have thought that my point was pretty obvious..... that there
> are a small number or violent crimes committed by the supposedly well
> bred. You can name a small number of them because their being rich and
> their being the exceptional case makes headlines. Meanwhile, many
> thousands of murders are committed by the more or less disenfranchised.
> You may hear of one or two preppy murders per year in the US. Meanwhile
> there are close to 400 murders in Detroit alone. Internationally there
> is a pretty high corelation between poverty and murder rates.
>
> Exceptions do not make the rule, but feel free to live in denial.

The exceptions are crimes that are so egregious that their personal
fortunes can't buy them off and that's the reality of the criminal
"justice" system in the USA.

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