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Ed Pawlowski 22-11-2013 03:46 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
For years, we've used Cascade in powder form, then gel. It worked well
until it had to be reformulated to eliminate phosphates. After that it
was OK, but not as good. A couple of weeks ago we bought a new
KitchenAid dishwasher. It was an improvement and we were quite
satisfied with the outcome of dishes, glassware and flatware. It also
came with a trial pack of Cascade Platinum in pellet form. I put it
aside for a while

We had a full load of mixed items and I figured I'd try the pellets.
Dropped it in, pushed the buttons and went to bed. Next morning, the
results were fantastic. This stuff is even better than the old
phosphate formula. Glasses sparkled like the day they were new, not a
spot on the stainless steel flatware.

I did not check the cost per load, but this stuff is better than
anything we've used to date. I'm willing to pay a little more.

sf[_9_] 22-11-2013 04:17 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:46:07 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> For years, we've used Cascade in powder form, then gel. It worked well
> until it had to be reformulated to eliminate phosphates. After that it
> was OK, but not as good. A couple of weeks ago we bought a new
> KitchenAid dishwasher. It was an improvement and we were quite
> satisfied with the outcome of dishes, glassware and flatware. It also
> came with a trial pack of Cascade Platinum in pellet form. I put it
> aside for a while
>
> We had a full load of mixed items and I figured I'd try the pellets.
> Dropped it in, pushed the buttons and went to bed. Next morning, the
> results were fantastic. This stuff is even better than the old
> phosphate formula. Glasses sparkled like the day they were new, not a
> spot on the stainless steel flatware.
>
> I did not check the cost per load, but this stuff is better than
> anything we've used to date. I'm willing to pay a little more.


Pellet?

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The Cook 22-11-2013 04:18 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:46:07 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>For years, we've used Cascade in powder form, then gel. It worked well
>until it had to be reformulated to eliminate phosphates. After that it
>was OK, but not as good. A couple of weeks ago we bought a new
>KitchenAid dishwasher. It was an improvement and we were quite
>satisfied with the outcome of dishes, glassware and flatware. It also
>came with a trial pack of Cascade Platinum in pellet form. I put it
>aside for a while
>
>We had a full load of mixed items and I figured I'd try the pellets.
>Dropped it in, pushed the buttons and went to bed. Next morning, the
>results were fantastic. This stuff is even better than the old
>phosphate formula. Glasses sparkled like the day they were new, not a
>spot on the stainless steel flatware.
>
>I did not check the cost per load, but this stuff is better than
>anything we've used to date. I'm willing to pay a little more.


I use Intuitional Cascade that I get at a restaurant supply store. I
also use Finish that I get at Costco. The combination works very
well.
--
Susan N.

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48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
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Ed Pawlowski 22-11-2013 04:44 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 11:17 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:46:07 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> For years, we've used Cascade in powder form, then gel. It worked well
>> until it had to be reformulated to eliminate phosphates. After that it
>> was OK, but not as good. A couple of weeks ago we bought a new
>> KitchenAid dishwasher. It was an improvement and we were quite
>> satisfied with the outcome of dishes, glassware and flatware. It also
>> came with a trial pack of Cascade Platinum in pellet form. I put it
>> aside for a while




>
> Pellet?
>


Pellet, tablet, Action pacs, pills, blocks, all sorts of names
http://www.cascadeclean.com/us/cascade/


brooklyn1 22-11-2013 05:50 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:46:07 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>For years, we've used Cascade in powder form, then gel. It worked well
>until it had to be reformulated to eliminate phosphates. After that it
>was OK, but not as good. A couple of weeks ago we bought a new
>KitchenAid dishwasher. It was an improvement and we were quite
>satisfied with the outcome of dishes, glassware and flatware. It also
>came with a trial pack of Cascade Platinum in pellet form. I put it
>aside for a while
>
>We had a full load of mixed items and I figured I'd try the pellets.
>Dropped it in, pushed the buttons and went to bed. Next morning, the
>results were fantastic. This stuff is even better than the old
>phosphate formula. Glasses sparkled like the day they were new, not a
>spot on the stainless steel flatware.
>
>I did not check the cost per load, but this stuff is better than
>anything we've used to date. I'm willing to pay a little more.


Recently bought Cascade Platinum... sold in a plastic tub of 72...
works great. I don't remember the price, but I run the dishwasher
maybe once a week so I don't consider the cost. I really don't mind
doing dishes by hand... I wash all cookware by hand anyway so a couple
of dinner dishes each evening is no biggie, and I wash catfood bowls
by hand too or I'd need to own about forty. The dishwasher is mostly
used for company dishes, and that's when I put in the stove grates and
drip pans and other odd items

ImStillMags 22-11-2013 07:21 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I've always been a Cascade fan. I use the Cascade Complete and have always been pleased with the results.

S Viemeister[_2_] 22-11-2013 07:50 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 10:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> For years, we've used Cascade in powder form, then gel. It worked well
> until it had to be reformulated to eliminate phosphates. After that it
> was OK, but not as good. A couple of weeks ago we bought a new
> KitchenAid dishwasher. It was an improvement and we were quite
> satisfied with the outcome of dishes, glassware and flatware. It also
> came with a trial pack of Cascade Platinum in pellet form. I put it
> aside for a while
>
> We had a full load of mixed items and I figured I'd try the pellets.
> Dropped it in, pushed the buttons and went to bed. Next morning, the
> results were fantastic. This stuff is even better than the old
> phosphate formula. Glasses sparkled like the day they were new, not a
> spot on the stainless steel flatware.
>
> I did not check the cost per load, but this stuff is better than
> anything we've used to date. I'm willing to pay a little more.


Good to know, for when my stash of phosphate-containing detergent runs out.

Cindy Hamilton[_3_] 22-11-2013 08:52 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
In article >,
> wrote:
>On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:21:40 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>I've always been a Cascade fan. I use the Cascade Complete and have always been pleased with the results.

>
>Must be something wrong with me, dishwasher or laundry detergent, I
>buy whichever is on sale at that moment. They all seem to perform
>identically :)


I buy Our Family brand, lemon-scented. Cascade smells terrible to
me and my husband. Our Family also has the virtue of being the
budget-priced brand. No idea how its cleaning power compares
to the "high-priced spreads". (Was that phrase from a Bluebonnet
commercial? Some margarine, anyway.)

Cindy Hamilton
--





Kalmia 22-11-2013 09:07 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On Friday, November 22, 2013 3:29:38 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:21:40 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> >

>
> >I've always been a Cascade fan. I use the Cascade Complete and have always been pleased with the results.

>
>
>
> Must be something wrong with me, dishwasher or laundry detergent, I
>
> buy whichever is on sale at that moment. They all seem to perform
>
> identically :)


Same here. I buy the house brand and the dishes seem pretty darn clean to me. Maybe I have lower standards.

Goomba[_2_] 22-11-2013 11:46 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/13 2:21 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I've always been a Cascade fan. I use the Cascade Complete and have always been pleased with the results.
>

I think Cascade Complete took top spot in Consumer Reports testing.

Pearl Buck 22-11-2013 11:48 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 4:46 PM, Goomba wrote:
> On 11/22/13 2:21 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> I've always been a Cascade fan. I use the Cascade Complete and have
>> always been pleased with the results.
>>

> I think Cascade Complete took top spot in Consumer Reports testing.


But first they had to Finish...

Goomba[_2_] 22-11-2013 11:48 PM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/13 4:07 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Friday, November 22, 2013 3:29:38 PM UTC-5, wrote:


>> Must be something wrong with me, dishwasher or laundry detergent, I
>>
>> buy whichever is on sale at that moment. They all seem to perform
>>
>> identically :)

>
> Same here. I buy the house brand and the dishes seem pretty darn clean to me. Maybe I have lower standards.
>


Or perhaps you have different dishes and glassware that doesn't show
spots readily?


ImStillMags 23-11-2013 12:03 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On Friday, November 22, 2013 1:07:09 PM UTC-8, Kalmia wrote:


> Same here. I buy the house brand and the dishes seem pretty darn clean to me. Maybe I have lower standards.





I think it all depends on how you load your dishwasher. I mean do you pre wash the dishes before you put them in ? If so, then you don't need a heavy duty detergent. If you just do a quick scrape or rinse and there is still food smears left on the dishes you need a better dishwashing detergent..

I tend to just do a quick scrape and maybe a rinse if it's egg yolk but most of the time I just scrape and put dishes in the washer and run it when it gets full. That's about once or maybe twice in a 7 day period, so food has time to really dry on there.

With the Cascade Complete they are sparkling clean and no residue in the catch basin either.

I have a 'regular' dishwasher, nothing high priced or fancy and the dishes are always clean with the Cascade Complete.




sf[_9_] 23-11-2013 12:25 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:03:09 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> wrote:

> On Friday, November 22, 2013 1:07:09 PM UTC-8, Kalmia wrote:
>
>
> > Same here. I buy the house brand and the dishes seem pretty darn clean to me. Maybe I have lower standards.

>
>
>
>
> I think it all depends on how you load your dishwasher. I mean do you pre wash the dishes before you put them in ? If so, then you don't need a heavy duty detergent. If you just do a quick scrape or rinse and there is still food smears left on the dishes you need a better dishwashing detergent.
>
> I tend to just do a quick scrape and maybe a rinse if it's egg yolk but most of the time I just scrape and put dishes in the washer and run it when it gets full. That's about once or maybe twice in a 7 day period, so food has time to really dry on there.
>
> With the Cascade Complete they are sparkling clean and no residue in the catch basin either.
>
> I have a 'regular' dishwasher, nothing high priced or fancy and the dishes are always clean with the Cascade Complete.
>

I scrape and pre-rinse my dishes, but went over to Finish because my
glasses were getting foggy. My new and still unopened box is Cascade
powder. What does Complete have that I won't have with powder and a
rinse agent?


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jmcquown[_2_] 23-11-2013 12:36 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 7:22 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:03:09 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, November 22, 2013 1:07:09 PM UTC-8, Kalmia wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Same here. I buy the house brand and the dishes seem pretty darn clean to me. Maybe I have lower standards.

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it all depends on how you load your dishwasher. I mean do you pre wash the dishes before you put them in ? If so, then you don't need a heavy duty detergent. If you just do a quick scrape or rinse and there is still food smears left on the dishes you need a better dishwashing detergent.
>>
>> I tend to just do a quick scrape and maybe a rinse if it's egg yolk but most of the time I just scrape and put dishes in the washer and run it when it gets full. That's about once or maybe twice in a 7 day period, so food has time to really dry on there.
>>
>> With the Cascade Complete they are sparkling clean and no residue in the catch basin either.
>>
>> I have a 'regular' dishwasher, nothing high priced or fancy and the dishes are always clean with the Cascade Complete.
>>
>>

> I am alone, so run the dishwasher every third day or so. I will scrape
> a dish roughly, nothing fancy, but never rinse or wash first. Have a
> cheapo Frigidaire dishwasher, keep the rinse agent thing filled and
> use whatever dishwasher pods are on sale when I buy.
>
> I do load dishes in a sensible manner, no spoons nestled together etc.
> all plates facing centre.
>
> No problems, never had a reject.
>

Same here. I had to laugh when one of my brothers didn't think I was
loading the dishwasher properly. (Read: it wasn't the way HE does it.)
He rearranged the utensils so that all the spoons were together, all
the forks, etc. I said what do you think you're doing? The spoons are
all nesting together!

Jill

Pearl Buck 23-11-2013 12:37 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 5:18 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:48:51 -0500, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/22/13 4:07 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>>> On Friday, November 22, 2013 3:29:38 PM UTC-5, wrote:

>>
>>>> Must be something wrong with me, dishwasher or laundry detergent, I
>>>>
>>>> buy whichever is on sale at that moment. They all seem to perform
>>>>
>>>> identically :)
>>>
>>> Same here. I buy the house brand and the dishes seem pretty darn clean to me. Maybe I have lower standards.
>>>

>>
>> Or perhaps you have different dishes and glassware that doesn't show
>> spots readily?

>
> I am assuming everyone always uses rinse agent, you're not getting a
> good finish without it.
>

As long as there's no finnlandization amongst my dishes, all is good ;-)

Kalmia 23-11-2013 12:38 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:03:09 PM UTC-5, ImStillMags wrote:>
>
>
> I think it all depends on how you load your dishwasher. I mean do you pre wash the dishes before you put them in ?


I dunk em in a dishpan of soapy warm water, after scraping off anything larger than a turkey carcass.

I don't let 'em sit in the d/w for long either. A couple of hours, tops. I don't use a rinsing agent either. I don't have enough dishes and tools to go 7 days - agh. If I decide to save the dishes for the d/w, it's never more than those of b'fast, lunch and the dirties from of some heavy cooking.



Polly Esther[_2_] 23-11-2013 01:04 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
Thanks, Ed.


Cheryl[_3_] 23-11-2013 01:08 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 2:21 PM, ImStillMags wrote:

> On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I've always been a Cascade fan. I use the Cascade Complete and have
> always been pleased with the results.
>


Same here, the little squares. The dishes always turn out nice, the
glasses sparkle.

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jmcquown[_2_] 23-11-2013 01:17 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 7:51 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 19:36:43 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>> I am alone, so run the dishwasher every third day or so. I will scrape
>>> a dish roughly, nothing fancy, but never rinse or wash first. Have a
>>> cheapo Frigidaire dishwasher, keep the rinse agent thing filled and
>>> use whatever dishwasher pods are on sale when I buy.
>>>
>>> I do load dishes in a sensible manner, no spoons nestled together etc.
>>> all plates facing centre.
>>>
>>> No problems, never had a reject.
>>>

>> Same here. I had to laugh when one of my brothers didn't think I was
>> loading the dishwasher properly. (Read: it wasn't the way HE does it.)
>> He rearranged the utensils so that all the spoons were together, all
>> the forks, etc. I said what do you think you're doing? The spoons are
>> all nesting together!
>>
>> Jill

>
> It's amazing isn't it ?
>

Truly! To me it's simple logic. :)

Jill

Nancy Young[_6_] 23-11-2013 01:18 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 7:03 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Friday, November 22, 2013 1:07:09 PM UTC-8, Kalmia wrote:
>
>
>> Same here. I buy the house brand and the dishes seem pretty darn clean to me.


> I think it all depends on how you load your dishwasher. I mean do you pre wash
>the dishes before you put them in ? If so, then you don't need a

heavy duty
> detergent. If you just do a quick scrape or rinse and there is

still food
>smears left on the dishes you need a better dishwashing detergent.
>
> I tend to just do a quick scrape and maybe a rinse if it's egg yolk but most of
>the time I just scrape and put dishes in the washer and run it when it

gets full.
>That's about once or maybe twice in a 7 day period, so food has time

to really
>dry on there.
>
> With the Cascade Complete they are sparkling clean and no residue in the
>catch basin either.


I use some Cascade tablets (whatever they're called). They do a fine
job, as did the Finish tabs I've used. I don't rinse dishes at all, and
they machine runs every 2 to 3 days. If there is ever a dirty item,
it's because maybe it wasn't loaded correctly, or it was blocked.

I hardly ever have to give anything extra attention, never the glasses
or the plates.

However, I do think that Cascade made a mistake taking the phosphates
out of the powder I used to use and pretending it still worked. One
day, dishes were coming out all cruddy and I didn't know why. My
brother's dishes were even worse, he's got hard water and his whole
machine and dishes were coated with white powder. Until I bought him
a bunch of Finish tabs, they didn't know what was going on.

nancy



ImStillMags 23-11-2013 01:51 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On Friday, November 22, 2013 4:25:50 PM UTC-8, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:03:09 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags


>
> I scrape and pre-rinse my dishes, but went over to Finish because my
>
> glasses were getting foggy. My new and still unopened box is Cascade
>
> powder. What does Complete have that I won't have with powder and a
>
> rinse agent?
>



Complete has a detergent that doesn't fog my glassware and it has the rinse agent built in. That's why it's called complete. So you aren't buying two things.



gregz 23-11-2013 02:44 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
jay > wrote:
> In article >,
> Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> I'm willing to pay a little more.

>
> Me too. I changed from Cascade to Finish in puck form. Outstanding
> results.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/mrfoc4s
>
> jay


There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods, pucks, or
whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.

Greg

jmcquown[_2_] 23-11-2013 02:57 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:
> jay > wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm willing to pay a little more.

>>
>> Me too. I changed from Cascade to Finish in puck form. Outstanding
>> results.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/mrfoc4s
>>
>> jay

>
> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods, pucks, or
> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>
> Greg
>

Oh fer cryin' out loud! Give kids a little credit. (Not necessarily
their parents. LOL) One bite of that detergent pod, just a teeny bit,
that is NOT candy. It's not like they're adding sugar to it.

Jill

Dave Smith[_1_] 23-11-2013 02:59 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 2013-11-22 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:
> jay > wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm willing to pay a little more.

>>
>> Me too. I changed from Cascade to Finish in puck form. Outstanding
>> results.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/mrfoc4s
>>
>> jay

>
> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods, pucks, or
> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>


Many?????
One?


jmcquown[_2_] 23-11-2013 03:01 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 9:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2013-11-22 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:
>> jay > wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm willing to pay a little more.
>>>
>>> Me too. I changed from Cascade to Finish in puck form. Outstanding
>>> results.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/mrfoc4s
>>>
>>> jay

>>
>> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods,
>> pucks, or
>> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>>

>
> Many?????
> One?
>

If ever we needed a citation, this is it. Hopefully not something
ripped from the tabloids. :)

Jill

Dave Smith[_1_] 23-11-2013 03:02 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 2013-11-22 9:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/22/2013 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:
>> jay > wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm willing to pay a little more.
>>>
>>> Me too. I changed from Cascade to Finish in puck form. Outstanding
>>> results.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/mrfoc4s
>>>
>>> jay

>>
>> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods,
>> pucks, or
>> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>>
>> Greg
>>

> Oh fer cryin' out loud! Give kids a little credit. (Not necessarily
> their parents. LOL) One bite of that detergent pod, just a teeny bit,
> that is NOT candy. It's not like they're adding sugar to it.


Think Darwin.



Dave Smith[_1_] 23-11-2013 03:04 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 2013-11-22 10:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/22/2013 9:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2013-11-22 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:
>>> jay > wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm willing to pay a little more.
>>>>
>>>> Me too. I changed from Cascade to Finish in puck form. Outstanding
>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/mrfoc4s
>>>>
>>>> jay
>>>
>>> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods,
>>> pucks, or
>>> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>>>

>>
>> Many?????
>> One?
>>

> If ever we needed a citation, this is it. Hopefully not something
> ripped from the tabloids. :)
>
>

I googled.... there was one.


Ed Pawlowski 23-11-2013 03:10 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 8:18 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

> However, I do think that Cascade made a mistake taking the phosphates
> out of the powder I used to use and pretending it still worked. One
> day, dishes were coming out all cruddy and I didn't know why. My
> brother's dishes were even worse, he's got hard water and his whole
> machine and dishes were coated with white powder. Until I bought him
> a bunch of Finish tabs, they didn't know what was going on.
>
> nancy
>
>



They were wrong to pretend it worked, but the government took the
phosphates out. Probably a good thing for the environment, not so good
for dishes. The gel sucked too.

These Platinum pacs solved the problem. The cost works out to 21 cents
a load.


Ed Pawlowski 23-11-2013 03:19 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:

> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods, pucks, or
> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>
> Greg
>


I recently read that there has been 9200 incidents in the ER so far.
They are colorful and a toddler could be attracted to it. I imagine
many would spit it out but probably many swallowed some and it would be
caustic.

jmcquown[_2_] 23-11-2013 03:28 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 10:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2013-11-22 10:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/22/2013 9:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2013-11-22 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:
>>>> jay > wrote:
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm willing to pay a little more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Me too. I changed from Cascade to Finish in puck form. Outstanding
>>>>> results.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/mrfoc4s
>>>>>
>>>>> jay
>>>>
>>>> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods,
>>>> pucks, or
>>>> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Many?????
>>> One?
>>>

>> If ever we needed a citation, this is it. Hopefully not something
>> ripped from the tabloids. :)
>>
>>

> I googled.... there was one.
>

I found this:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...ning-children/

Still, why would kids even think it was something edible? Maybe I'm
different. When I was a child I wasn't much interested in what was
stored in the cabinet under the kitchen sink. It certainly wouldn't
have occurred to me to taste, much less eat!, anything I found stored
under the sink or near the dishwasher or laundry room. The mind boggles.

Jill

Goomba[_2_] 23-11-2013 03:36 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/13 9:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/22/2013 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:


>> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods,
>> pucks, or
>> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>>
>> Greg
>>

> Oh fer cryin' out loud! Give kids a little credit. (Not necessarily
> their parents. LOL) One bite of that detergent pod, just a teeny bit,
> that is NOT candy. It's not like they're adding sugar to it.
>
> Jill


I've read some concern about them also. Kids get into poisons- they're
not reading labels, they don't taste them timidly and they do plenty of
damage to themselves.

I'm actually more concerned with all the "gummy" vitamins on the market
these days. It just begs for kids to be attracted to them, right???

jmcquown[_2_] 23-11-2013 03:37 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 10:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/22/2013 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:
>
>> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods,
>> pucks, or
>> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>>
>> Greg
>>

>
> I recently read that there has been 9200 incidents in the ER so far.
> They are colorful and a toddler could be attracted to it. I imagine
> many would spit it out but probably many swallowed some and it would be
> caustic.


Then kid-proof the cabinets or store the stuff where a toddler can't get
into it and has no reason to think about it.

Jill

Goomba[_2_] 23-11-2013 03:38 AM

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On 11/22/13 10:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/22/2013 9:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2013-11-22 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:


>>> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods,
>>> pucks, or
>>> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>>>

>>
>> Many?????
>> One?
>>

> If ever we needed a citation, this is it. Hopefully not something
> ripped from the tabloids. :)
>
> Jill


http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intel...lar-detergent/

Goomba[_2_] 23-11-2013 03:40 AM

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On 11/22/13 10:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> If ever we needed a citation, this is it. Hopefully not something
> ripped from the tabloids. :)
>
> Jill


http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2...zard/index.htm

Goomba[_2_] 23-11-2013 03:50 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/13 10:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> Still, why would kids even think it was something edible? Maybe I'm
> different. When I was a child I wasn't much interested in what was
> stored in the cabinet under the kitchen sink. It certainly wouldn't
> have occurred to me to taste, much less eat!, anything I found stored
> under the sink or near the dishwasher or laundry room. The mind boggles.
>
> Jill


You were actually a toddler once. You have no memory of all the things
you once tried to get into that your parents had to guard you from but I
guarantee they had to pull you out of something once in a while.

Goomba[_2_] 23-11-2013 03:53 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/13 10:37 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/22/2013 10:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/22/2013 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:
>>
>>> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods,
>>> pucks, or
>>> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>

>>
>> I recently read that there has been 9200 incidents in the ER so far.
>> They are colorful and a toddler could be attracted to it. I imagine
>> many would spit it out but probably many swallowed some and it would be
>> caustic.

>
> Then kid-proof the cabinets or store the stuff where a toddler can't get
> into it and has no reason to think about it.
>
> Jill


If you'd ever been seriously around babies and toddlers, you'd have a
clue that they have plenty of reasons to think about it- they see you
get into it, they mimic what they see. They also have uncanny skills
sometimes for getting into or finding the one thing they shouldn't be
in....

jmcquown[_2_] 23-11-2013 04:20 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 10:36 PM, Goomba wrote:
> On 11/22/13 9:57 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/22/2013 9:44 PM, gregz wrote:

>
>>> There have been many deaths to children who ingest colorful pods,
>>> pucks, or
>>> whatever. Tide dishwasher pods look like a bowl of candy.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>

>> Oh fer cryin' out loud! Give kids a little credit. (Not necessarily
>> their parents. LOL) One bite of that detergent pod, just a teeny bit,
>> that is NOT candy. It's not like they're adding sugar to it.
>>
>> Jill

>
> I've read some concern about them also. Kids get into poisons- they're
> not reading labels, they don't taste them timidly and they do plenty of
> damage to themselves.
>
> I'm actually more concerned with all the "gummy" vitamins on the market
> these days. It just begs for kids to be attracted to them, right???


But, but... my mom gave us kids chewable Chocks vitamins (ever heard of
those?) every morning with breakfast in the 1960's. What's the
difference between those and gummy-vitamins other than a few decades?
Both were/are geared towards children. Fruit chewable vitamins were so
parents didn't have to make kids swallow pills. I don't know about
other people but we didn't think of it as candy.

Just for fun, here's an old commercial about Chocks kids vitamins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7S2_wDAyLA

Jill

Nancy Young[_6_] 23-11-2013 04:22 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 10:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/22/2013 8:18 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> However, I do think that Cascade made a mistake taking the phosphates
>> out of the powder I used to use and pretending it still worked. One
>> day, dishes were coming out all cruddy and I didn't know why. My
>> brother's dishes were even worse, he's got hard water and his whole
>> machine and dishes were coated with white powder. Until I bought him
>> a bunch of Finish tabs, they didn't know what was going on.


> They were wrong to pretend it worked, but the government took the
> phosphates out.


I know they had to remove the phosphates by law, it wasn't
their idea. But they had to know from testing that the powder
formula was worse than worthless and they just shipped it out
so all the customers could wonder why their dishes weren't
coming out clean all of a sudden. I thought something happened
to my dishwasher and I'm not the only one.

> These Platinum pacs solved the problem. The cost works out to 21 cents
> a load.


Worth it.

nancy


jmcquown[_2_] 23-11-2013 04:30 AM

Dishwasher detergent
 
On 11/22/2013 10:50 PM, Goomba wrote:
> On 11/22/13 10:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Still, why would kids even think it was something edible? Maybe I'm
>> different. When I was a child I wasn't much interested in what was
>> stored in the cabinet under the kitchen sink. It certainly wouldn't
>> have occurred to me to taste, much less eat!, anything I found stored
>> under the sink or near the dishwasher or laundry room. The mind boggles.
>>
>> Jill

>
> You were actually a toddler once. You have no memory of all the things
> you once tried to get into that your parents had to guard you from but I
> guarantee they had to pull you out of something once in a while.


Of course I was a toddler. :) But I didn't really toddle around much
until I was about two. I was extremely pidgeon-toed. For a while I
wore shoes with a bar between them to straigten out my feet. At any
rate, there wasn't much of interest in the kitchen. And my mother would
have had the common sense to tell us no. If kids these days take that
as a challenge, well, that's a shame.

Jill


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