On 2013-11-24 3:23 PM, sf wrote:

>>> Then there are those that grow up in good environments and still go very
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>
>> Consider the numbers and the types of crimes. While there may be the
>> occasional well bred and wealthy killer, far more of the killers have a
>> disadvantaged background, little money, bad parents, bad neighbourhoods
>> and bad choices. Seriously, look at class pictures of kids in preppy
>> private schools and compare them with a class picture from an inner city
>> school. Consider the odds of kids in those two pictures being convicted
>> or or a victim of a violent crime.
>
> Part of it has to do with how much money they have to spend on
> lawyers. You need look no further than a current case that involves a
> Kennedy relative, Michael Skakel. Yes, in spite of having the best
> lawyer money could buy at the time - his new lawyer just got him
> released from jail on bail by claiming his original lawyer didn't
> represent him adequately. What a crock. He killed Martha Moxley and
> it's as plain as the nose on your face.



Like I said... compare the class pictures and compare the odds of a kid
in one of those classes being a violent criminal or victim of violent
crime. The vast majority of violent criminals come from the lower rungs
on the social ladder. You know about Skakel because he is connected to
a wealthy family. For every one of them there are thousands of unconnected.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:03:31 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2013-11-24 3:23 PM, sf wrote:
>
> >>> Then there are those that grow up in good environments and still go very
> >>> wrong.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Consider the numbers and the types of crimes. While there may be the
> >> occasional well bred and wealthy killer, far more of the killers have a
> >> disadvantaged background, little money, bad parents, bad neighbourhoods
> >> and bad choices. Seriously, look at class pictures of kids in preppy
> >> private schools and compare them with a class picture from an inner city
> >> school. Consider the odds of kids in those two pictures being convicted
> >> or or a victim of a violent crime.
> >
> > Part of it has to do with how much money they have to spend on
> > lawyers. You need look no further than a current case that involves a
> > Kennedy relative, Michael Skakel. Yes, in spite of having the best
> > lawyer money could buy at the time - his new lawyer just got him
> > released from jail on bail by claiming his original lawyer didn't
> > represent him adequately. What a crock. He killed Martha Moxley and
> > it's as plain as the nose on your face.
>
>
>
> Like I said... compare the class pictures and compare the odds of a kid
> in one of those classes being a violent criminal or victim of violent
> crime. The vast majority of violent criminals come from the lower rungs
> on the social ladder. You know about Skakel because he is connected to
> a wealthy family. For every one of them there are thousands of unconnected.

We know about Skakel because he did what he did it to an equally
wealthy family - so his family's wealth couldn't beat the victim's
family down and buy him a pardon... unfortunately, it seems like the
money gods and a skanky lawyer may end up weaseling him out of jail
after all.

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On 2013-11-24 23:24:10 +0000, sf said:

> On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:03:31 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2013-11-24 3:23 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>>>> Then there are those that grow up in good environments and still go very
>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Consider the numbers and the types of crimes. While there may be the
>>>> occasional well bred and wealthy killer, far more of the killers have a
>>>> disadvantaged background, little money, bad parents, bad neighbourhoods
>>>> and bad choices. Seriously, look at class pictures of kids in preppy
>>>> private schools and compare them with a class picture from an inner city
>>>> school. Consider the odds of kids in those two pictures being convicted
>>>> or or a victim of a violent crime.
>>>
>>> Part of it has to do with how much money they have to spend on
>>> lawyers. You need look no further than a current case that involves a
>>> Kennedy relative, Michael Skakel. Yes, in spite of having the best
>>> lawyer money could buy at the time - his new lawyer just got him
>>> released from jail on bail by claiming his original lawyer didn't
>>> represent him adequately. What a crock. He killed Martha Moxley and
>>> it's as plain as the nose on your face.
>>
>>
>>
>> Like I said... compare the class pictures and compare the odds of a kid
>> in one of those classes being a violent criminal or victim of violent
>> crime. The vast majority of violent criminals come from the lower rungs
>> on the social ladder. You know about Skakel because he is connected to
>> a wealthy family. For every one of them there are thousands of unconnected.
>
> We know about Skakel because he did what he did it to an equally
> wealthy family - so his family's wealth couldn't beat the victim's
> family down and buy him a pardon...

.... after 25 years.

> unfortunately, it seems like the
> money gods and a skanky lawyer may end up weaseling him out of jail
> after all.