On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:10:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 8/10/2013 4:21 PM, Yellow wrote:
>
> >
> > An electric kettle is the single most efficient way to boil water on the
> > simple condition that you only boil what you need. And that is true even
> > if you only need a cup or two.
> >
>
> How much more efficient than a microwave?

Are microwaves as big a deal in Europe as they are here?

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In article >,
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> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:10:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > On 8/10/2013 4:21 PM, Yellow wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > An electric kettle is the single most efficient way to boil water on the
> > > simple condition that you only boil what you need. And that is true even
> > > if you only need a cup or two.
> > >
> >
> > How much more efficient than a microwave?
>
> Are microwaves as big a deal in Europe as they are here?

MW's are very common domestic appliances in UK, though not as
universal as an electric kettle.

Janet UK

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> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:58:08 -0700, sf > wrote:
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>>On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:10:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/10/2013 4:21 PM, Yellow wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > An electric kettle is the single most efficient way to boil water on
>>> > the
>>> > simple condition that you only boil what you need. And that is true
>>> > even
>>> > if you only need a cup or two.
>>> >
>>>
>>> How much more efficient than a microwave?
>>
>>Are microwaves as big a deal in Europe as they are here?
>
>
> My aunt and uncle are in their mid-90's and have a microwave,
> dishwasher, clothes washer, dryer, kettle, and upstairs by the bed, a
> Teas Maid. There is little difference between homes in NA or Europe!

Indeed!

> Oh and they also have (and have had for about ten years) a stair lift.

Not yet for me, but one day maybe ...

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>>> Oh and they also have (and have had for about ten years) a stair lift.
>>
>>Not yet for me, but one day maybe ...
>>
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> Well at the time it was that or move, they elected the stair lift and
> it is the sole reason they can manage now.

Oh yes, I wasn't decrying it Just saying I don't need it right now, but
come the day ...

When I go over, I put my
> suitcase on it and send it upstairs, really nice

Heh very useful I would be using it take all sort of stuff up and down if
I had one. Heck why tote stuff yourself

>
> Everything is global now, any appliances I can buy here, they can buy
> there, should they want them. Whether everyone can afford an
> appliance they want here, or there, depends on budget.
>
> I would safely say, England/Europe is no longer back in the Dark
> Ages

Well given the comments about kettles and microwaves, I would agree

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> wrote in message
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> My aunt and uncle are in their mid-90's and have a microwave,
> dishwasher, clothes washer, dryer, kettle, and upstairs by the bed, a
> Teas Maid. There is little difference between homes in NA or Europe!
>
> Oh and they also have (and have had for about ten years) a stair lift.

I don't know about that! In this area, coffee is the big drink. And if a
person does have tea, it's usually a bubble tea. I have one friend who is a
tea drinker and I bought her an electric kettle. She had never heard of
them. She boiled her kettle dry then began using pans to heat the water,
boiling them dry too. She's elderly and getting a bit forgetful. She loves
the electric kettle because if she forgets about it (which she often does),
it will just shut off and not boil dry. Of course when she does this, she
has to start all over again but I suppose that is better than wrecking all
of her pans.

I don't know anyone else who has an electric kettle and only two other tea
drinkers. One drinks only iced tea and buys it already brewed. The other
just buys it at Starbucks.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> My aunt and uncle are in their mid-90's and have a microwave,
>> dishwasher, clothes washer, dryer, kettle, and upstairs by the bed, a
>> Teas Maid. There is little difference between homes in NA or Europe!
>>
>> Oh and they also have (and have had for about ten years) a stair lift.
>
> I don't know about that! In this area, coffee is the big drink. And if a
> person does have tea, it's usually a bubble tea. I have one friend who is
> a tea drinker and I bought her an electric kettle. She had never heard of
> them. She boiled her kettle dry then began using pans to heat the water,
> boiling them dry too. She's elderly and getting a bit forgetful. She
> loves the electric kettle because if she forgets about it (which she often
> does), it will just shut off and not boil dry. Of course when she does
> this, she has to start all over again but I suppose that is better than
> wrecking all of her pans.
>
> I don't know anyone else who has an electric kettle and only two other tea
> drinkers. One drinks only iced tea and buys it already brewed. The other
> just buys it at Starbucks.

Different countries, different ways eh?

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On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 13:16:17 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

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>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > I don't know anyone else who has an electric kettle and only two other tea
> > drinkers. One drinks only iced tea and buys it already brewed. The other
> > just buys it at Starbucks.
>
> Different countries, different ways eh?
>
That's why I wondered about microwaves.

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 13:16:17 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> >
>> > I don't know anyone else who has an electric kettle and only two other
>> > tea
>> > drinkers. One drinks only iced tea and buys it already brewed. The
>> > other
>> > just buys it at Starbucks.
>>
>> Different countries, different ways eh?
>>
> That's why I wondered about microwaves.

Yep, and if you don't ask you don't know I've had microwaves since the
70s.
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Ophelia wrote:
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> I've had microwaves since the
> 70s.

They were very expensive back then. :-O

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
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>> I've had microwaves since the
>> 70s.
>
> They were very expensive back then. :-O

All I remember is it was VERY basic.
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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I have one friend who is a
> tea drinker and I bought her an electric kettle. She had never heard of
> them. She boiled her kettle dry then began using pans to heat the water,
> boiling them dry too. She's elderly and getting a bit forgetful. She loves
> the electric kettle because if she forgets about it (which she often does),
> it will just shut off and not boil dry. Of course when she does this, she
> has to start all over again but I suppose that is better than wrecking all
> of her pans.

She needs to buy an inexpensive Revereware tea kettle. Once the water
starts to boil, it whistles very loudly so she won't forget she turned
it on.

G.

In article >, says...
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > I have one friend who is a
> > tea drinker and I bought her an electric kettle. She had never heard of
> > them. She boiled her kettle dry then began using pans to heat the water,
> > boiling them dry too. She's elderly and getting a bit forgetful. She loves
> > the electric kettle because if she forgets about it (which she often does),
> > it will just shut off and not boil dry. Of course when she does this, she
> > has to start all over again but I suppose that is better than wrecking all
> > of her pans.
>
> She needs to buy an inexpensive Revereware tea kettle. Once the water
> starts to boil, it whistles very loudly so she won't forget she turned
> it on.

Which would only work as a reminde if she was still in earshot, but
forgetful older people may have gone out or to bed or be rather deaf.

Janet UK.

Janet wrote:
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> Gary says...
> > She needs to buy an inexpensive Revereware tea kettle. Once the water
> > starts to boil, it whistles very loudly so she won't forget she turned
> > it on.
>
> Which would only work as a reminde if she was still in earshot, but
> forgetful older people may have gone out or to bed or be rather deaf.

I've actually started something cooking and got distracted and forgot
in the past. I've learned that when something is on a burner, stay in
the kitchen.....*especially* when deep frying.

G.

> wrote in message
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>>I've actually started something cooking and got distracted and forgot
>>in the past. I've learned that when something is on a burner, stay in
>>the kitchen.....*especially* when deep frying.
>>
>>G.
>
> Yep our fire department says more house fires start with fat/oil on
> stove.

I never heat deep fat/oil on a burner. I have an electric deep fryer for
chips (fries). It's quite small but big enough for the two of us.

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On 8/12/2013 12:19 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> > wrote in message
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>>> I've actually started something cooking and got distracted and forgot
>>> in the past. I've learned that when something is on a burner, stay in
>>> the kitchen.....*especially* when deep frying.
>>>
>>> G.
>>
>> Yep our fire department says more house fires start with fat/oil on
>> stove.
>
> I never heat deep fat/oil on a burner. I have an electric deep fryer
> for chips (fries). It's quite small but big enough for the two of us.
>

I used to have one of those - they are a lot of fun. OTOH, there's no
way that I could continue to eat that stuff for a prolonged period of
time. We checked out a house a few years ago that was set up in an
elegant Chinese style. The kitchen had an integrated deep fryer. That
really fired up my imagination with all the stuff I would be able to do
with such a setup. OTOH, there's probably a reason that you don't see
these things in home kitchens.

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> On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 23:19:36 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>>
> wrote in message
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>>>>I've actually started something cooking and got distracted and forgot
>>>>in the past. I've learned that when something is on a burner, stay in
>>>>the kitchen.....*especially* when deep frying.
>>>>
>>>>G.
>>>
>>> Yep our fire department says more house fires start with fat/oil on
>>> stove.
>>
>>I never heat deep fat/oil on a burner. I have an electric deep fryer for
>>chips (fries). It's quite small but big enough for the two of us.
>>
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> That's what they recommend but still people continue to put oil in a
> saucepan - go away to do something - forget - ignite - and don't
> forget, we live in wooden houses

Even without wooden houses (although that must be dangerous) I have seen
people's kitchens totally burned out!

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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> She needs to buy an inexpensive Revereware tea kettle. Once the water
> starts to boil, it whistles very loudly so she won't forget she turned
> it on.

That's what she had and it got ruined. A whistle does no good if you forget
what you are doing and leave the house. We had the same thing happen when I
was a kid. We left for church and someone had put the kettle on. Came home
to a house full of smoke and when my dad tried to pick up the kettle, the
bottom was stuck to the burner. Amazingly, once it cooled, the bottom could
be lifted off and the burner was fine. But we had no more tea kettle.