Now I've seen it all! Just saw this commercial. Who in the world would
need such a thing? And yet, I can see people who don't know how to cook
buying this thing, thinking that it's a miracle like they said. If my
grandma were alive, she would have bought it and probably raved about it!

http://www.stonewave.com/

I can remember buying microwave dishes when I first got my microwave, mainly
because my grandma told me that I needed them. I quickly learned that I had
wasted my money. My mom has a microwave but she uses hers in different ways
than I do. For instance, if she is making instant mashed potatoes, she does
the water in there. I find that it is much quicker and easier to do that on
the stove! Then you don't have to deal with an unwieldy large bowl of
boiling water. If I am heating canned vegetables, I put them in there.
Angela and I generally eat them straight from the can but husband likes his
hot. My mom always heats her canned veggies on the stove. I don't think
she ever fell for the microwave dish thing. Maybe she bought the bacon
cooker. I think I do remember seeing that.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Now I've seen it all! Just saw this commercial. Who in the world would
> need such a thing? And yet, I can see people who don't know how to cook
> buying this thing, thinking that it's a miracle like they said. If my
> grandma were alive, she would have bought it and probably raved about it!
>
> http://www.stonewave.com/
>
> I can remember buying microwave dishes when I first got my microwave, mainly
> because my grandma told me that I needed them. I quickly learned that I had
> wasted my money. My mom has a microwave but she uses hers in different ways
> than I do. For instance, if she is making instant mashed potatoes, she does
> the water in there. I find that it is much quicker and easier to do that on
> the stove! Then you don't have to deal with an unwieldy large bowl of
> boiling water. If I am heating canned vegetables, I put them in there.
> Angela and I generally eat them straight from the can but husband likes his
> hot. My mom always heats her canned veggies on the stove. I don't think
> she ever fell for the microwave dish thing. Maybe she bought the bacon
> cooker. I think I do remember seeing that.

I put stainless steel mixing bowls in my microwave, leave spoons in
stuff that needs periodic stirring, etc. and never have a single issue.
There was a lot of misinformation in the early days of microwaves, some
of it due to not thinking people could handle using metal properly in a
microwave, but now any microwave manual or cookbook gives the proper
directions for using metal in the microwave. The only microwave gadget I
find useful is the little clamshell type two egg cooker thing, those
work pretty well and can be useful for making quick eggs benedict.
Minor's Hollandaise Concentrate (get from soupbase.com) is also really
handy for that.

In article >,
"Pete C." > wrote:

> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > Now I've seen it all! Just saw this commercial. Who in the world would
> > need such a thing? And yet, I can see people who don't know how to cook
> > buying this thing, thinking that it's a miracle like they said. If my
> > grandma were alive, she would have bought it and probably raved about it!
> >
> > http://www.stonewave.com/
> >
> > I can remember buying microwave dishes when I first got my microwave, mainly
> > because my grandma told me that I needed them. I quickly learned that I had
> > wasted my money. My mom has a microwave but she uses hers in different ways
> > than I do. For instance, if she is making instant mashed potatoes, she does
> > the water in there. I find that it is much quicker and easier to do that on
> > the stove! Then you don't have to deal with an unwieldy large bowl of
> > boiling water. If I am heating canned vegetables, I put them in there.
> > Angela and I generally eat them straight from the can but husband likes his
> > hot. My mom always heats her canned veggies on the stove. I don't think
> > she ever fell for the microwave dish thing. Maybe she bought the bacon
> > cooker. I think I do remember seeing that.
>
> I put stainless steel mixing bowls in my microwave, leave spoons in
> stuff that needs periodic stirring, etc. and never have a single issue.
> There was a lot of misinformation in the early days of microwaves, some
> of it due to not thinking people could handle using metal properly in a
> microwave, but now any microwave manual or cookbook gives the proper
> directions for using metal in the microwave.

The magnetron (thing that generates the microwaves) in early microwave
ovens could be damaged by reflected energy from metal items in the oven
cavity.

Later on, the engineers figured out how to prevent that from happening.
I think the change was made because the companies had better success
making the devices idiot proof rather than trying to tell the idiots
what not to do.

In any case, metal is still a shield for microwave energy, so using a
metal container may result in even more uneven heating than usual.

Whether metal items work or not, or damage the unit or not, sticking a
platinum or gold-rimmed china plate in there is a bad idea.

Isaac

isw > wrote:
> In article >,
> "Pete C." > wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> Now I've seen it all! Just saw this commercial. Who in the world would
>>> need such a thing? And yet, I can see people who don't know how to cook
>>> buying this thing, thinking that it's a miracle like they said. If my
>>> grandma were alive, she would have bought it and probably raved about it!
>>>
>>> http://www.stonewave.com/
>>>
>>> I can remember buying microwave dishes when I first got my microwave, mainly
>>> because my grandma told me that I needed them. I quickly learned that I had
>>> wasted my money. My mom has a microwave but she uses hers in different ways
>>> than I do. For instance, if she is making instant mashed potatoes, she does
>>> the water in there. I find that it is much quicker and easier to do that on
>>> the stove! Then you don't have to deal with an unwieldy large bowl of
>>> boiling water. If I am heating canned vegetables, I put them in there.
>>> Angela and I generally eat them straight from the can but husband likes his
>>> hot. My mom always heats her canned veggies on the stove. I don't think
>>> she ever fell for the microwave dish thing. Maybe she bought the bacon
>>> cooker. I think I do remember seeing that.
>>
>> I put stainless steel mixing bowls in my microwave, leave spoons in
>> stuff that needs periodic stirring, etc. and never have a single issue.
>> There was a lot of misinformation in the early days of microwaves, some
>> of it due to not thinking people could handle using metal properly in a
>> microwave, but now any microwave manual or cookbook gives the proper
>> directions for using metal in the microwave.
>
> The magnetron (thing that generates the microwaves) in early microwave
> ovens could be damaged by reflected energy from metal items in the oven
> cavity.
>
> Later on, the engineers figured out how to prevent that from happening.
> I think the change was made because the companies had better success
> making the devices idiot proof rather than trying to tell the idiots
> what not to do.
>
> In any case, metal is still a shield for microwave energy, so using a
> metal container may result in even more uneven heating than usual.
>
> Whether metal items work or not, or damage the unit or not, sticking a
> platinum or gold-rimmed china plate in there is a bad idea.
>
> Isaac

If you want to experiment with different shapes and sizes, mold some
aluminum foil. I dont like to take chances on destruction of microwave.
When in doubt I add a load of a little water in a cup. Metal absorbs, or
and, reflects, and if you make a 1/2 wavelength piece of metal at 2.4 gHz,
it will probably get real funny.

Greg

isw wrote:
> In article >,
> "Pete C." > wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> Now I've seen it all! Just saw this commercial. Who in the world would
>>> need such a thing? And yet, I can see people who don't know how to cook
>>> buying this thing, thinking that it's a miracle like they said. If my
>>> grandma were alive, she would have bought it and probably raved about it!
>>>
>>> http://www.stonewave.com/
>>>
>>> I can remember buying microwave dishes when I first got my microwave, mainly
>>> because my grandma told me that I needed them. I quickly learned that I had
>>> wasted my money. My mom has a microwave but she uses hers in different ways
>>> than I do. For instance, if she is making instant mashed potatoes, she does
>>> the water in there. I find that it is much quicker and easier to do that on
>>> the stove! Then you don't have to deal with an unwieldy large bowl of
>>> boiling water. If I am heating canned vegetables, I put them in there.
>>> Angela and I generally eat them straight from the can but husband likes his
>>> hot. My mom always heats her canned veggies on the stove. I don't think
>>> she ever fell for the microwave dish thing. Maybe she bought the bacon
>>> cooker. I think I do remember seeing that.
>> I put stainless steel mixing bowls in my microwave, leave spoons in
>> stuff that needs periodic stirring, etc. and never have a single issue.
>> There was a lot of misinformation in the early days of microwaves, some
>> of it due to not thinking people could handle using metal properly in a
>> microwave, but now any microwave manual or cookbook gives the proper
>> directions for using metal in the microwave.
>
> The magnetron (thing that generates the microwaves) in early microwave
> ovens could be damaged by reflected energy from metal items in the oven
> cavity.
>
> Later on, the engineers figured out how to prevent that from happening.
> I think the change was made because the companies had better success
> making the devices idiot proof rather than trying to tell the idiots
> what not to do.
>
> In any case, metal is still a shield for microwave energy, so using a
> metal container may result in even more uneven heating than usual.
>
> Whether metal items work or not, or damage the unit or not, sticking a
> platinum or gold-rimmed china plate in there is a bad idea.
>
> Isaac

Tow or three years ago, I put a peanut butter jar in the microwave
to heat the contents a bit so it would be more spreadable. There
was a tiny bit of the metallic seal on the rim, and it arced.
That was frightening, and something I don't care to repeat, but it
didn't kill the mw.

--
Jean B.

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Tow or three years ago, I put a peanut butter jar in the microwave to heat
> the contents a bit so it would be more spreadable. There was a tiny bit
> of the metallic seal on the rim, and it arced. That was frightening, and
> something I don't care to repeat, but it didn't kill the mw.

My past two microwaves were GE. They had arcing but I never did figure out
why. Seemed to come from the cover where the lightbulb was. I just cleaned
it well and it didn't happen again.

In article ]>,
isw > wrote:

> In article >,
> "Pete C." > wrote:
>
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > > Now I've seen it all! Just saw this commercial. Who in the world would
> > > need such a thing? And yet, I can see people who don't know how to cook
> > > buying this thing, thinking that it's a miracle like they said. If my
> > > grandma were alive, she would have bought it and probably raved about it!
> > >
> > > http://www.stonewave.com/
> > >
> > > I can remember buying microwave dishes when I first got my microwave, mainly
> > > because my grandma told me that I needed them. I quickly learned that I had
> > > wasted my money. My mom has a microwave but she uses hers in different ways
> > > than I do. For instance, if she is making instant mashed potatoes, she does
> > > the water in there. I find that it is much quicker and easier to do that on
> > > the stove! Then you don't have to deal with an unwieldy large bowl of
> > > boiling water. If I am heating canned vegetables, I put them in there.
> > > Angela and I generally eat them straight from the can but husband likes his
> > > hot. My mom always heats her canned veggies on the stove. I don't think
> > > she ever fell for the microwave dish thing. Maybe she bought the bacon
> > > cooker. I think I do remember seeing that.
> >
> > I put stainless steel mixing bowls in my microwave, leave spoons in
> > stuff that needs periodic stirring, etc. and never have a single issue.
> > There was a lot of misinformation in the early days of microwaves, some
> > of it due to not thinking people could handle using metal properly in a
> > microwave, but now any microwave manual or cookbook gives the proper
> > directions for using metal in the microwave.
>
> The magnetron (thing that generates the microwaves) in early microwave
> ovens could be damaged by reflected energy from metal items in the oven
> cavity.
>
> Later on, the engineers figured out how to prevent that from happening.

Probably by installing one or more sensors and writing
a program to do a feedback computation. A microwave oven
these days has more computer processing power than the
big computing machines built when microwave ovens were
first sold into people's kitchens. I dare say that goes
for toasters too. (Ob. geek: Of course they do not have
the storage capacity or IO channels of those old computers.)

--
Michael Press

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> Now I've seen it all! Just saw this commercial. Who in the world would
> need such a thing? And yet, I can see people who don't know how to cook
> buying this thing, thinking that it's a miracle like they said. If my
> grandma were alive, she would have bought it and probably raved about it!
>
> http://www.stonewave.com/
>
> I can remember buying microwave dishes when I first got my microwave, mainly
> because my grandma told me that I needed them. I quickly learned that I had
> wasted my money. My mom has a microwave but she uses hers in different ways
> than I do. For instance, if she is making instant mashed potatoes, she does
> the water in there. I find that it is much quicker and easier to do that on
> the stove! Then you don't have to deal with an unwieldy large bowl of
> boiling water. If I am heating canned vegetables, I put them in there.
> Angela and I generally eat them straight from the can but husband likes his
> hot. My mom always heats her canned veggies on the stove. I don't think
> she ever fell for the microwave dish thing. Maybe she bought the bacon
> cooker. I think I do remember seeing that.

I'll just use my old corning ware. I got a plastic butter tray if I need to
skimp and cook dogs in microwave.

Greg