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Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station
listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. One of many links http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...v-over-2056462 San Francisco's KTVU Channel 2 news incorrectly named the crew of the doomed Boeing 777, which crashed killing three people, as Sum Ting Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk and Bang Ding Ow Didn't anyone look at the copy? No one thought it was a joke? The talking head just read the names as if they were real. Another person had to actually type the names to appear on the screen too. I can understand the joke when we were in junior high about Won Hung Lo, but this takes it to a much higher level of dumbness. |
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:26:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station >listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. > >One of many links >http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...v-over-2056462 >San Francisco's KTVU Channel 2 news incorrectly named the crew of the >doomed Boeing 777, which crashed killing three people, as Sum Ting >Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk and Bang Ding Ow > > >Didn't anyone look at the copy? No one thought it was a joke? The >talking head just read the names as if they were real. Another person >had to actually type the names to appear on the screen too. > >I can understand the joke when we were in junior high about Won Hung >Lo, but this takes it to a much higher level of dumbness. What makes me really laugh is the article's description of it as being 'sickening'. LOL. With the way they're (faux) reacting, you'd think they were also responsible for Auschwitz. "Asiana has decided to sue KTVU-TV to "strongly respond to its racially discriminatory report" that disparaged Asians, spokeswoman Lee Hyomin said" The airline isn't any better, apparently. Just goes to show how unintelligent, humourless and hysterical the media is. Much like modern society, I suppose. |
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On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:53:21 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote:
Well, everyone knows that Mike Hunt, Heywood Jablome, etc. are all code for "WOP", right? As those are "racist", so must these be. Because everyone knows all Koreans are named Kim, and there's not one Kim to be seen in this list. Obvious racial insensitivity. |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:05:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:53:21 PM UTC-7, Jeßus wrote: > >Well, everyone knows that Mike Hunt, Heywood Jablome, etc. are all code for > >"WOP", right? Not me, but I'll take your word for it. >As those are "racist", so must these be. Because everyone knows all Koreans are named Kim, and there's not one Kim to be seen in this list. Obvious racial insensitivity. |
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:26:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station > listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. While I've never heard this particular "joke", it just goes to show how little critical thinking is done in the race to be first to file a breaking news report. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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![]() "Sqwertz" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:58:37 -0700, sf wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:26:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> >>> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station >>> listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. >> >> While I've never heard this particular "joke", it just goes to show >> how little critical thinking is done in the race to be first to file a >> breaking news report. > > In this case somebody DID do some critical thinking before reporting > it. They even verified the names with the NTSB, who cluelessly or > maliciously verified them. > > What probably happened is that somebody at the news station either > concocted the names or received it in email and forwarded it to a few > people at the station - as a joke, not intended for airing at all. > But some clueless reporter/researcher got hold of it and ran with it, > not understanding it was a joke. > > -sw I think I saw an e-mail joke with these names before the TV incident, so your guess is probably correct. |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:05:11 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote: > > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message > ... > > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:58:37 -0700, sf wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:26:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> > >>> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station > >>> listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. > >> > >> While I've never heard this particular "joke", it just goes to show > >> how little critical thinking is done in the race to be first to file a > >> breaking news report. > > > > In this case somebody DID do some critical thinking before reporting > > it. They even verified the names with the NTSB, who cluelessly or > > maliciously verified them. > > > > What probably happened is that somebody at the news station either > > concocted the names or received it in email and forwarded it to a few > > people at the station - as a joke, not intended for airing at all. > > But some clueless reporter/researcher got hold of it and ran with it, > > not understanding it was a joke. > > > > -sw > > I think I saw an e-mail joke with these names before the TV incident, so > your guess is probably correct. > That's as good an explanation as any. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:52:15 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: > >In this case somebody DID do some critical thinking before reporting >it. They even verified the names with the NTSB, who cluelessly or >maliciously verified them. I'm not sure how much thinking went into making that call. If you can't figure it is a joke, you are really DUMB. I can also see someone on the other end saying "yep, that is the right names". I'd have done that if I got the call. I've done worse. > >What probably happened is that somebody at the news station either >concocted the names or received it in email and forwarded it to a few >people at the station - as a joke, not intended for airing at all. >But some clueless reporter/researcher got hold of it and ran with it, >not understanding it was a joke. > >-sw I'd say that is very possible. |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:52:15 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:58:37 -0700, sf wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:26:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> >>> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station >>> listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. >> >> While I've never heard this particular "joke", it just goes to show >> how little critical thinking is done in the race to be first to file a >> breaking news report. > >In this case somebody DID do some critical thinking before reporting >it. They even verified the names with the NTSB, who cluelessly or >maliciously verified them. > >What probably happened is that somebody at the news station either >concocted the names or received it in email and forwarded it to a few >people at the station - as a joke, not intended for airing at all. >But some clueless reporter/researcher got hold of it and ran with it, >not understanding it was a joke > >-sw It is the local FAUXNews outlet. Who's surprised? |
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On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 07:37:36 -0500, B. Server >
wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:52:15 -0500, Sqwertz > > wrote: > > >On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:58:37 -0700, sf wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:26:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> > >>> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station > >>> listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. > >> > >> While I've never heard this particular "joke", it just goes to show > >> how little critical thinking is done in the race to be first to file a > >> breaking news report. > > > >In this case somebody DID do some critical thinking before reporting > >it. They even verified the names with the NTSB, who cluelessly or > >maliciously verified them. > > > >What probably happened is that somebody at the news station either > >concocted the names or received it in email and forwarded it to a few > >people at the station - as a joke, not intended for airing at all. > >But some clueless reporter/researcher got hold of it and ran with it, > >not understanding it was a joke > > > >-sw > > It is the local FAUXNews outlet. Who's surprised? Fox news is quite different from Faux news on cable - at least around here. KTVU has been a local favorite for decades, not sure why or how that thing happened - but I'll start by blaming it on the streamlining that comes with a modern news room. -- Food is an important part of a balanced diet. |
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On 7/16/2013 11:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station > listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. > > One of many links > http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...v-over-2056462 > San Francisco's KTVU Channel 2 news incorrectly named the crew of the > doomed Boeing 777, which crashed killing three people, as Sum Ting > Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk and Bang Ding Ow > > > Didn't anyone look at the copy? No one thought it was a joke? The > talking head just read the names as if they were real. Another person > had to actually type the names to appear on the screen too. It was so ridiculous. They actually called the NTSB and got some intern to confirm those were the names. NO ONE out of all those people could tell that was a joke? nancy |
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On 7/16/2013 11:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station > listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. > > One of many links > http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...v-over-2056462 > San Francisco's KTVU Channel 2 news incorrectly named the crew of the > doomed Boeing 777, which crashed killing three people, as Sum Ting > Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk and Bang Ding Ow > > > Didn't anyone look at the copy? No one thought it was a joke? The > talking head just read the names as if they were real. Another person > had to actually type the names to appear on the screen too. > > I can understand the joke when we were in junior high about Won Hung > Lo, but this takes it to a much higher level of dumbness. > It was completely stupid. This is one reason I do not like watching the news. Doesn't anyone fact-check anymore? Hours after the crash CNN was streaming comments from Facebook and Twitter feeds by alledged witnesses as "facts". Come on, what news organization thinks social media = reality? Jill |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:42:17 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 7/16/2013 11:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station >> listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. >> >> One of many links >> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...v-over-2056462 >> San Francisco's KTVU Channel 2 news incorrectly named the crew of the >> doomed Boeing 777, which crashed killing three people, as Sum Ting >> Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk and Bang Ding Ow >> >> >> Didn't anyone look at the copy? No one thought it was a joke? The >> talking head just read the names as if they were real. Another person >> had to actually type the names to appear on the screen too. >> >> I can understand the joke when we were in junior high about Won Hung >> Lo, but this takes it to a much higher level of dumbness. >> >It was completely stupid. This is one reason I do not like watching the >news. Doesn't anyone fact-check anymore? Hours after the crash CNN was >streaming comments from Facebook and Twitter feeds by alledged witnesses >as "facts". Come on, what news organization thinks social media = reality? Mainstream media couldn't care less either way. |
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On 7/17/2013 9:42 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> It was completely stupid. This is one reason I do not like watching the > news. Doesn't anyone fact-check anymore? Hours after the crash CNN was > streaming comments from Facebook and Twitter feeds by alledged witnesses > as "facts". Come on, what news organization thinks social media = reality? I was sitting in a car repair shop during the CNN report of that crash. I never heard them mention any names at that time. It must have come out later. I don't usually watch CNN especially in a mechanics waiting room but the owner of the shop mentioned that the plane came from her country, Korea, so she was interested in watching the details. As for myself, I was sitting there lamenting the fact that my visit to their shop cost me $1200. Stupid computer sensors in cars. What good do they do? -- CAPSLOCK–Preventing Login Since 1980. |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 21:57:39 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote: >I was sitting there lamenting the fact that my visit to their >shop cost me $1200. Stupid computer sensors in cars. What good do they >do? Plenty, for car part suppliers and mechanics ![]() |
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On 7/17/2013 3:57 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/17/2013 9:42 AM, jmcquown wrote: > >> It was completely stupid. This is one reason I do not like watching the >> news. Doesn't anyone fact-check anymore? Hours after the crash CNN was >> streaming comments from Facebook and Twitter feeds by alledged witnesses >> as "facts". Come on, what news organization thinks social media = >> reality? > > I was sitting in a car repair shop during the CNN report of that crash. > I never heard them mention any names at that time. It must have come > out later. I don't usually watch CNN especially in a mechanics waiting > room but the owner of the shop mentioned that the plane came from her > country, Korea, so she was interested in watching the details. As for > myself, I was sitting there lamenting the fact that my visit to their > shop cost me $1200. Stupid computer sensors in cars. What good do they do? > The primary function of having the engine controlled by a computer is to control exhaust emissions into the air. The more sensors in the system, the more data the computer has to control the burning of fuel and the more opportunity there is to make some serious money by replacing them. |
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On 7/17/2013 11:25 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 7/17/2013 3:57 PM, Cheryl wrote: >> On 7/17/2013 9:42 AM, jmcquown wrote: >> >>> It was completely stupid. This is one reason I do not like watching the >>> news. Doesn't anyone fact-check anymore? Hours after the crash CNN was >>> streaming comments from Facebook and Twitter feeds by alledged witnesses >>> as "facts". Come on, what news organization thinks social media = >>> reality? >> >> I was sitting in a car repair shop during the CNN report of that crash. >> I never heard them mention any names at that time. It must have come >> out later. I don't usually watch CNN especially in a mechanics waiting >> room but the owner of the shop mentioned that the plane came from her >> country, Korea, so she was interested in watching the details. As for >> myself, I was sitting there lamenting the fact that my visit to their >> shop cost me $1200. Stupid computer sensors in cars. What good do >> they do? >> > > The primary function of having the engine controlled by a computer is to > control exhaust emissions into the air. The more sensors in the system, > the more data the computer has to control the burning of fuel and the > more opportunity there is to make some serious money by replacing them. These sensors were for the ABS and simply "brakes". The sensors are on a part that cost $700 and couldn't be replaced without replacing that part. I had my brake parts replaced only about 2 years ago but when those alarms popped up on my dashboard I was like, what? Come to find out it was just the sensors that were malfunctioning. I guess I had to fix those to later tell me when they really are malfunctioning. I have no idea, it just cost me a bundle to fix it. I really liked the shop owner though. She drove me home so I wouldn't have to wait while they got the part in and replaced it which took about 4 hours. Then she came and got me. Like I told her I'd rather pay for repairs rather than trade this in for a new vehicle and pay monthly payments. It's still a good truck. I haven't made payments since it was paid off in 2010. -- CAPSLOCK–Preventing Login Since 1980. |
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On 7/17/2013 5:50 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> These sensors were for the ABS and simply "brakes". The sensors are on > a part that cost $700 and couldn't be replaced without replacing that > part. I had my brake parts replaced only about 2 years ago but when > those alarms popped up on my dashboard I was like, what? Come to find > out it was just the sensors that were malfunctioning. I guess I had to > fix those to later tell me when they really are malfunctioning. I have > no idea, it just cost me a bundle to fix it. I really liked the shop > owner though. She drove me home so I wouldn't have to wait while they > got the part in and replaced it which took about 4 hours. Then she came > and got me. > > Like I told her I'd rather pay for repairs rather than trade this in for > a new vehicle and pay monthly payments. It's still a good truck. I > haven't made payments since it was paid off in 2010. > Interesting. What kind of truck do you have? I'd like to find out more about the brakes. Thanks. |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 17:25:09 -1000, dsi1
> wrote: >> >> As for >> myself, I was sitting there lamenting the fact that my visit to their >> shop cost me $1200. Stupid computer sensors in cars. What good do they do? >> > >The primary function of having the engine controlled by a computer is to >control exhaust emissions into the air. The more sensors in the system, >the more data the computer has to control the burning of fuel and the >more opportunity there is to make some serious money by replacing them. And don't forget ESC (Electronic Stability Control) that helps keep you safe. Most every function in a car is now computer controlled. When you flip a switch for the headlights, you are not turning on the lights as you did years ago. Now, you are sending a request to the computer to turn the lights on and then the computer does so. It works the Climate Control if you have that, the rain sensing wipers, etc. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > It works the Climate Control if you have that, the rain sensing > wipers, etc. Really. Rain sensing wipers now? They've almost thought of everything. G. |
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On 7/17/2013 11:51 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > And don't forget ESC (Electronic Stability Control) that helps keep > you safe. ESC is the most significant advance in automobile safety in recent years and most people are unaware that it exists or what it does. > > Most every function in a car is now computer controlled. When you > flip a switch for the headlights, you are not turning on the lights as > you did years ago. Now, you are sending a request to the computer to > turn the lights on and then the computer does so. The automobile makers are aware that the public is crazy about new technology and will pay to get it. I mean, who the heck doesn't want voice actuated head rests? I can't wait for self-driving cars. > > It works the Climate Control if you have that, the rain sensing > wipers, etc. > |
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On 7/18/2013 5:51 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Most every function in a car is now computer controlled. When you > flip a switch for the headlights, you are not turning on the lights as > you did years ago. Now, you are sending a request to the computer to > turn the lights on and then the computer does so. My new car has push button ignition and I had to teach myself to just push the button and let go, not hold it in like it's going to start like you would with a key. nancy |
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On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 03:00:36 +0100, bigwheel
> wrote: snip Did they ever figger out how many of the casualties got >sent off to Nirvana from getting run over by the slab savers in the big >red fire trucks? Some of this stuff is puzzling. One teenage girl was run over by emergency equipment. She was covered in foam retardant at the time. As yet, autopsy hasn't determined what killed her. the crash or the vehicle. She had been seated in the rear of the plane where the most damage was sustained. Janet US |
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Janet Bostwick > wrote in
: > On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 03:00:36 +0100, bigwheel > > wrote: > > snip > > Did they ever figger out how many of the casualties got >>sent off to Nirvana from getting run over by the slab savers in the big >>red fire trucks? Some of this stuff is puzzling. Airport firefighting trucks are usually a bright green colour. High visibility and all that. > > One teenage girl was run over by emergency equipment. She was covered > in foam retardant at the time. As yet, autopsy hasn't determined what > killed her. the crash or the vehicle. She had been seated in the rear > of the plane where the most damage was sustained. > Janet US > The rear of the plane was always a favourite spot of my MIL.... she used to say "I haven't heard of anyone backing a plane into a mountain as yet!" :-) -- Peter Brisbane Australia Success isn't so difficult. Just bite off more than you can chew, then go do it. |
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On Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:40:45 AM UTC-4, I'm back wrote:
> Janet Bostwick > wrote in > > : > > > > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 03:00:36 +0100, bigwheel > > > > wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > > Did they ever figger out how many of the casualties got > > >>sent off to Nirvana from getting run over by the slab savers in the big > > >>red fire trucks? Some of this stuff is puzzling. > > > > > > > > Airport firefighting trucks are usually a bright green colour. > > > > High visibility and all that. > > > > > > > > > > One teenage girl was run over by emergency equipment. She was covered > > > in foam retardant at the time. As yet, autopsy hasn't determined what > > > killed her. the crash or the vehicle. She had been seated in the rear > > > of the plane where the most damage was sustained. > > > Janet US > > > > > > > > > The rear of the plane was always a favourite spot of my MIL.... she used to > > say "I haven't heard of anyone backing a plane into a mountain as yet!" :-) > > > > > > -- > > Peter > > Brisbane > > Australia > > > > Success isn't so difficult. > > Just bite off more than you can chew, > > then go do it. Assassination of Snowden informants. It is a conspiracy. I am still trying to get an inquisition device out of my back the CIA stuck there US doctors cannot identify. I hate TV. I live it. |
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On 2013-07-17 03:26:09 +0000, Ed Pawlowski said:
> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station > listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. > > One of many links > http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...v-over-2056462 > > San Francisco's KTVU Channel 2 news incorrectly named the crew of the > doomed Boeing 777, which crashed killing three people, as Sum Ting > Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk and Bang Ding Ow > > > Didn't anyone look at the copy? No one thought it was a joke? The > talking head just read the names as if they were real. Another person > had to actually type the names to appear on the screen too. > > I can understand the joke when we were in junior high about Won Hung > Lo, but this takes it to a much higher level of dumbness. News is just a form of reality TV based entertainment these days. Hard reporting is dangerous and will get more dangerous with time. It also tends to irritate sponsors and the all-powerful government. Most of the news you read or see on TV is churned out by a few interns with communications degrees. Folks these days are too dumb (for the most part) to question the TV and news media, so why bother with the facts? If it's printed, it's as good as true for almost all of the people who absorb these news items. The current state of the news media reflects the current level of public discourse in the USA. I stopped being surprised at this sort of stuff back in the 1990s, when it was clear to me that the news had slowly been going down the toilet for a decade before I even really noticed. |
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On 7/16/2013 11:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station > listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. > > One of many links > http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...v-over-2056462 > San Francisco's KTVU Channel 2 news incorrectly named the crew of the > doomed Boeing 777, which crashed killing three people, as Sum Ting > Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk and Bang Ding Ow > > > Didn't anyone look at the copy? No one thought it was a joke? The > talking head just read the names as if they were real. Another person > had to actually type the names to appear on the screen too. > > I can understand the joke when we were in junior high about Won Hung > Lo, but this takes it to a much higher level of dumbness. > That's just wong. Sorry, couldn't resist. Agree, I can't believe the media would actually read that without comprehending. Just goes to show you the IQ level required to be an on-air news anchor. -- CAPSLOCK–Preventing Login Since 1980. |
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On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:26:09 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Just how dumb can the news media be when the San Francisco TV station > > listed the names of the pilots of the crashed aircraft. > > > > One of many links > > http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...v-over-2056462 > > San Francisco's KTVU Channel 2 news incorrectly named the crew of the > > doomed Boeing 777, which crashed killing three people, as Sum Ting > > Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk and Bang Ding Ow > > > > > > Didn't anyone look at the copy? No one thought it was a joke? The > > talking head just read the names as if they were real. Another person > > had to actually type the names to appear on the screen too. > > > > I can understand the joke when we were in junior high about Won Hung > > Lo, but this takes it to a much higher level of dumbness. I think I met Ho Lee Fuk while she attended college off 6th st in Austin. |
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