For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
shopper. They are going down fast.
Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
the south.
I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
item on my lists.
Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
time.
--
Mr.E

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:

>For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>shopper. They are going down fast.
>Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>the south.
>I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>item on my lists.
>Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>time.
Did you talk to someone about it? During canning season I would
expect those items to go off the shelf. Did you ask when the next
shipment was coming in? Maybe the stuff was in the back and not put
out yet.
Janet US

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:25:50 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
>
>>For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>shopper. They are going down fast.
>>Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>>They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>>the south.
>>I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>>item on my lists.
>>Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>>happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>>time.
>Did you talk to someone about it?
Yes
> During canning season I would
>expect those items to go off the shelf. Did you ask when the next
>shipment was coming in?
"Things come in every day- check back."
> Maybe the stuff was in the back and not put
>out yet.
They looked- none there.

I could understand occasional OS but they are getting to a habitual
state of outitis.
--
Mr.E

On 6/20/2013 7:02 AM, Mr.E wrote:
> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> shopper. They are going down fast.
> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
> the south.
> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
> item on my lists.
> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
> time.
>

There's been a lot of stories in the news about this recently.
Walmart's execs decided to cut back on staff to increase their
margins. The stores are running at bare-bones staffing levels, which
means they haven't got enough people/time to restock their shelves.
Result: Walmarts all over the country have empty shelves, or pallets
of merchandise blocking the aisles for days while staff frantically
try to find the time to restock. This was a corporate management
decision to save a few bucks on wages. What it's gained them is a lot
of bad press and angry customers.

Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
paying good wages to get good help.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:45:14 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote:

>On 6/20/2013 7:02 AM, Mr.E wrote:
>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>> the south.
>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>> item on my lists.
>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>> time.
>>
>
>There's been a lot of stories in the news about this recently.
>Walmart's execs decided to cut back on staff to increase their
>margins. The stores are running at bare-bones staffing levels, which
>means they haven't got enough people/time to restock their shelves.
>Result: Walmarts all over the country have empty shelves, or pallets
>of merchandise blocking the aisles for days while staff frantically
>try to find the time to restock. This was a corporate management
>decision to save a few bucks on wages. What it's gained them is a lot
>of bad press and angry customers.
>
>Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
>benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
>second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
>paying good wages to get good help.

Can't argue with that.
Janet US

On 6/20/2013 2:00 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:45:14 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2013 7:02 AM, Mr.E wrote:
>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>>> the south.
>>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>>> item on my lists.
>>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>>> time.
>>>
>>
>> There's been a lot of stories in the news about this recently.
>> Walmart's execs decided to cut back on staff to increase their
>> margins. The stores are running at bare-bones staffing levels, which
>> means they haven't got enough people/time to restock their shelves.
>> Result: Walmarts all over the country have empty shelves, or pallets
>> of merchandise blocking the aisles for days while staff frantically
>> try to find the time to restock. This was a corporate management
>> decision to save a few bucks on wages. What it's gained them is a lot
>> of bad press and angry customers.
>>
>> Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
>> benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
>> second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
>> paying good wages to get good help.
>
> Can't argue with that.
> Janet US
>
Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
shopping there.

I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
and benefits.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

>On 6/20/2013 2:00 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
snip
>>>
>>> Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
>>> benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
>>> second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
>>> paying good wages to get good help.
>>
>> Can't argue with that.
>> Janet US
>>
>Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
>shopping there.
>
>I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
>and benefits.

That's true. I'm lending them money for a year. At the end of the
year 'I' get it all back plus some extra. I'm satisfied.
Janet US

On 6/20/2013 2:42 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2013 2:00 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> snip
>>>>
>>>> Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
>>>> benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
>>>> second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
>>>> paying good wages to get good help.
>>>
>>> Can't argue with that.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
>> shopping there.
>>
>> I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
>> and benefits.
>
> That's true. I'm lending them money for a year. At the end of the
> year 'I' get it all back plus some extra. I'm satisfied.
> Janet US
>

That said, when it comes to product - say meats and fish - they are far
better than Sam's Club.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
> shopping there.
>
> I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
> and benefits.

You get the discount, they get your membership fee. If you don't
spend enough to save enough to cover the yearly cost of your card,
they'll refund the difference to you. I call that a win/win.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 6/20/2013 2:43 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
>> shopping there.
>>
>> I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
>> and benefits.
>
> You get the discount, they get your membership fee. If you don't
> spend enough to save enough to cover the yearly cost of your card,
> they'll refund the difference to you. I call that a win/win.
>

I wasn't aware of the refund policy, then again I've never needed it.

A definite win/win.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:



>>
>Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
>shopping there.
>
>I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
>and benefits.

No Costco near me but we pay $50 a year to shop at BJ's. I can save
that in one or two shopping trips compared to other stores. Some
years ago, I resisted thinking it was dumb to pay to shop. Then I
went to a store with a friend and saw some of the prices and joined up
that day.

On 6/20/2013 8:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>
>
>>>
>> Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
>> shopping there.
>>
>> I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
>> and benefits.
>
> No Costco near me but we pay $50 a year to shop at BJ's. I can save
> that in one or two shopping trips compared to other stores. Some
> years ago, I resisted thinking it was dumb to pay to shop. Then I
> went to a store with a friend and saw some of the prices and joined up
> that day.
>
No BJ's here, but I read good things about them too.

Either way, a membership fee increases their ability to offer better
benefits.

On 6/20/2013 4:00 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:45:14 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
>> benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
>> second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
>> paying good wages to get good help.
>
> Can't argue with that.
> Janet US
>
Too bad Costco isn't everywhere WalMart is. I'd have to drive 125 miles
to get to a Costco. Then again, I don't shop at WalMart.

Jill

On 20/06/2013 11:45 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:

> There's been a lot of stories in the news about this recently. Walmart's
> execs decided to cut back on staff to increase their margins. The stores
> are running at bare-bones staffing levels, which means they haven't got
> enough people/time to restock their shelves. Result: Walmarts all over
> the country have empty shelves, or pallets of merchandise blocking the
> aisles for days while staff frantically try to find the time to restock.
> This was a corporate management decision to save a few bucks on wages.
> What it's gained them is a lot of bad press and angry customers.
>
> Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
> benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
> second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
> paying good wages to get good help.

I can't say that I have never been in either, but my experience with
them in extremely limited. I have only been in Walmart stores a few
times, 5 or 6 tops. Only once did I find what I was looking for.

Costco.... I had a membership. It was not a positive shopping
experience. It might be a good place to go and stop up on mass
quantities of bar food. I did once find a good deal on shrimp. It was a
product of Newfoundland. It was cheap. It was good quality shrimp. It
was the only time I ever saw it there. Other times I have gone there for
something specific they didn't have what I was looking for.
I no longer bother.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:

> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> shopper. They are going down fast.
> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
> the south.
> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
> item on my lists.
> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
> time.

You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
and poor benefits?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
>
>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>> the south.
>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>> item on my lists.
>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>> time.
>
> You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
> in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
> financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
> the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
> and poor benefits?
>

You make them sound like an oil company ;-)

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:46:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
> >
> >> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> >> shopper. They are going down fast.
> >> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
> >> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
> >> the south.
> >> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
> >> item on my lists.
> >> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
> >> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
> >> time.
> >
> > You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
> > in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
> > financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
> > the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
> > and poor benefits?
> >
>
> You make them sound like an oil company ;-)

Hm. It seems to me that oil companies at least give their employees
living wages and decent benefits. Not defending prices at the pump or
the way they rape the environment.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 6/20/2013 3:15 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:46:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>>>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>>>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>>>> the south.
>>>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>>>> item on my lists.
>>>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>>>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
>>> in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
>>> financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
>>> the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
>>> and poor benefits?
>>>
>>
>> You make them sound like an oil company ;-)
>
> Hm. It seems to me that oil companies at least give their employees
> living wages and decent benefits. Not defending prices at the pump or
> the way they rape the environment.
>

Well in the US they do, but when they can exploit third world labor
markets like Africa's they do.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:49:53 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 6/20/2013 3:15 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:46:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> >>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
> >>>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
> >>>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
> >>>> the south.
> >>>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
> >>>> item on my lists.
> >>>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
> >>>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
> >>>> time.
> >>>
> >>> You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
> >>> in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
> >>> financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
> >>> the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
> >>> and poor benefits?
> >>>
> >>
> >> You make them sound like an oil company ;-)
> >
> > Hm. It seems to me that oil companies at least give their employees
> > living wages and decent benefits. Not defending prices at the pump or
> > the way they rape the environment.
> >
>
> Well in the US they do, but when they can exploit third world labor
> markets like Africa's they do.

Sorry, but that's their problem. I can tut tut and tsk tsk, but in
reality - there isn't much I can do. Here in the USA, I can at least
vote against local politicians who act as their minions.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:

>For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>shopper. They are going down fast.
....

So YOU are part of this problem:

Frontline expose:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../walmart/view/

Music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw64hRgLBqM

Lyrics:
http://www.lyricsvip.com/The-Reveren...re-Lyrics.html


Results: Data from
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

U.S. Trade Imbalance with China (millions of dollars, to China)

Year Amount
1985 6
1986 1664
1987 2796
1988 3489
1989 6234
1990 10431
1991 12591
1992 18309
1993 22777
1994 29505
1995 33789
1996 39520
1997 47695
1998 56927
1999 68677
2000 83833
2001 83096
2002 103064
2003 124068
2004 161938
2005 201544
2006 232548
2007 258506
2008 268040
2009 208688
2010 273063
2011 295422
2012 315053

Not ME buddy!! I keep our money on THIS side pf the Pacific Ocean!!

John Kuthe...

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:36:08 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
>
>
>
> >For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>
> >shopper. They are going down fast.
>
> ...
>
>
>
> So YOU are part of this problem:
>
>
>
> Frontline expose:
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../walmart/view/
>
>
>
> Music:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw64hRgLBqM
>
>
>
> Lyrics:
>
> http://www.lyricsvip.com/The-Reveren...re-Lyrics.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Results: Data from
>
> http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html
>
>
>
> U.S. Trade Imbalance with China (millions of dollars, to China)
>
>
>
> Year Amount
>
> 1985 6
>
> 1986 1664
>
> 1987 2796
>
> 1988 3489
>
> 1989 6234
>
> 1990 10431
>
> 1991 12591
>
> 1992 18309
>
> 1993 22777
>
> 1994 29505
>
> 1995 33789
>
> 1996 39520
>
> 1997 47695
>
> 1998 56927
>
> 1999 68677
>
> 2000 83833
>
> 2001 83096
>
> 2002 103064
>
> 2003 124068
>
> 2004 161938
>
> 2005 201544
>
> 2006 232548
>
> 2007 258506
>
> 2008 268040
>
> 2009 208688
>
> 2010 273063
>
> 2011 295422
>
> 2012 315053
>
>
>
> Not ME buddy!! I keep our money on THIS side pf the Pacific Ocean!!
>
>
>
> John Kuthe...

Have you ever noticed that people here rarely reply to you? Besides me, and that's just because I've taken a special interest in your failure and misery. Anyway, I think the reason is that your creepy-little-man vibe comes through in writing as well as in person.

Mr.E wrote:
> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> shopper. They are going down fast.
> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
> the south.
> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
> item on my lists.
> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
> time.

I don't go there for groceries any more. When they first put in the grocery
section of our nearest one I was excited! They had things that we ate, that
other stores didn't have and the food was cheap! But then either they were
out of whatever it was, week after week or they flat out stopped carrying
it. I do buy a few things online like Cornnuts. But I don't venture into
the store.

"Mr.E" > wrote in message
...
> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> shopper. They are going down fast.

One can only hope and pray!
Graham

"graham" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mr.E" > wrote in message
> ...
>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>
> One can only hope and pray!

Is that the same co. that owns ASDA?

--
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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Mr.E" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>>
>> One can only hope and pray!
>
> Is that the same co. that owns ASDA?
>
Yes!
In Canada, they took over all the old Woolworrth stores and serve the same
demographic.
Graham

"graham" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Mr.E" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>>>
>>> One can only hope and pray!
>>
>> Is that the same co. that owns ASDA?
>>
> Yes!
> In Canada, they took over all the old Woolworrth stores and serve the same
> demographic.

Thanks. So far as I can see, ASDA is popular and has good prices.

--
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http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "graham" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Mr.E" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>>>>
>>>> One can only hope and pray!
>>>
>>> Is that the same co. that owns ASDA?
>>>
>> Yes!
>> In Canada, they took over all the old Woolworrth stores and serve the
>> same
>> demographic.
>
> Thanks. So far as I can see, ASDA is popular and has good prices.
>
Walmart advertises here implying that they have the lowest prices - but they
don't!When Mum was alive and still mobile (just) she liked to go to ASDA to
buy clothes ("by George") for my grandchildren. My d-i-l says that the same
label here in Walmart is nowhere near as good, both in quality and style.
AIUI, they don't treat their workers very well and are viruently anti-union,
going so far as to close a Quebec store when it unionised.
Graham