Walmart getting worse not better
 

For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
shopper. They are going down fast.
Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
the south.
I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
item on my lists.
Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
time.
--
Mr.E

Walmart getting worse not better
 

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:

>For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>shopper. They are going down fast.
>Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>the south.
>I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>item on my lists.
>Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>time.
Did you talk to someone about it? During canning season I would
expect those items to go off the shelf. Did you ask when the next
shipment was coming in? Maybe the stuff was in the back and not put
out yet.
Janet US

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:25:50 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
>
>>For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>shopper. They are going down fast.
>>Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>>They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>>the south.
>>I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>>item on my lists.
>>Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>>happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>>time.
>Did you talk to someone about it?
Yes
> During canning season I would
>expect those items to go off the shelf. Did you ask when the next
>shipment was coming in?
"Things come in every day- check back."
> Maybe the stuff was in the back and not put
>out yet.
They looked- none there.

I could understand occasional OS but they are getting to a habitual
state of outitis.
--
Mr.E

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:29:00 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>
>> Pretty odd, the one thing people generally don't bash Mal-Wart on is
>> inventory and supply chain management.
>
> Their inventory sucks. Usually only the major brands and the
> selection is very limited. Look at their deli case for example, for
> example. 100% "Prima Della" crap, their own brand name of substandard
> meats made by John Morell, IIRC.
>
> -sw


Maybe it depends on where you are. I find them to be very well stocked in
Northern CA.

Cheri

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On 6/20/2013 7:02 AM, Mr.E wrote:
> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> shopper. They are going down fast.
> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
> the south.
> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
> item on my lists.
> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
> time.
>

There's been a lot of stories in the news about this recently.
Walmart's execs decided to cut back on staff to increase their
margins. The stores are running at bare-bones staffing levels, which
means they haven't got enough people/time to restock their shelves.
Result: Walmarts all over the country have empty shelves, or pallets
of merchandise blocking the aisles for days while staff frantically
try to find the time to restock. This was a corporate management
decision to save a few bucks on wages. What it's gained them is a lot
of bad press and angry customers.

Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
paying good wages to get good help.

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:22:22 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:29:00 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>
>> Pretty odd, the one thing people generally don't bash Mal-Wart on is
>> inventory and supply chain management.
>
>Their inventory sucks. Usually only the major brands and the
>selection is very limited. Look at their deli case for example, for
>example. 100% "Prima Della" crap, their own brand name of substandard
>meats made by John Morell, IIRC.
>
>-sw
they're well stocked here and their deli selection is varied and good.
When I can't find something at Albertsons or Winco, I go to look at
Walmart.
Janet US

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:45:14 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote:

>On 6/20/2013 7:02 AM, Mr.E wrote:
>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>> the south.
>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>> item on my lists.
>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>> time.
>>
>
>There's been a lot of stories in the news about this recently.
>Walmart's execs decided to cut back on staff to increase their
>margins. The stores are running at bare-bones staffing levels, which
>means they haven't got enough people/time to restock their shelves.
>Result: Walmarts all over the country have empty shelves, or pallets
>of merchandise blocking the aisles for days while staff frantically
>try to find the time to restock. This was a corporate management
>decision to save a few bucks on wages. What it's gained them is a lot
>of bad press and angry customers.
>
>Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
>benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
>second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
>paying good wages to get good help.

Can't argue with that.
Janet US

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On 20/06/2013 11:45 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:

> There's been a lot of stories in the news about this recently. Walmart's
> execs decided to cut back on staff to increase their margins. The stores
> are running at bare-bones staffing levels, which means they haven't got
> enough people/time to restock their shelves. Result: Walmarts all over
> the country have empty shelves, or pallets of merchandise blocking the
> aisles for days while staff frantically try to find the time to restock.
> This was a corporate management decision to save a few bucks on wages.
> What it's gained them is a lot of bad press and angry customers.
>
> Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
> benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
> second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
> paying good wages to get good help.

I can't say that I have never been in either, but my experience with
them in extremely limited. I have only been in Walmart stores a few
times, 5 or 6 tops. Only once did I find what I was looking for.

Costco.... I had a membership. It was not a positive shopping
experience. It might be a good place to go and stop up on mass
quantities of bar food. I did once find a good deal on shrimp. It was a
product of Newfoundland. It was cheap. It was good quality shrimp. It
was the only time I ever saw it there. Other times I have gone there for
something specific they didn't have what I was looking for.
I no longer bother.

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On 6/20/2013 2:00 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:45:14 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2013 7:02 AM, Mr.E wrote:
>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>>> the south.
>>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>>> item on my lists.
>>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>>> time.
>>>
>>
>> There's been a lot of stories in the news about this recently.
>> Walmart's execs decided to cut back on staff to increase their
>> margins. The stores are running at bare-bones staffing levels, which
>> means they haven't got enough people/time to restock their shelves.
>> Result: Walmarts all over the country have empty shelves, or pallets
>> of merchandise blocking the aisles for days while staff frantically
>> try to find the time to restock. This was a corporate management
>> decision to save a few bucks on wages. What it's gained them is a lot
>> of bad press and angry customers.
>>
>> Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
>> benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
>> second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
>> paying good wages to get good help.
>
> Can't argue with that.
> Janet US
>
Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
shopping there.

I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
and benefits.

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:

> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> shopper. They are going down fast.
> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
> the south.
> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
> item on my lists.
> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
> time.

You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
and poor benefits?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Walmart getting worse not better
 

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

>On 6/20/2013 2:00 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
snip
>>>
>>> Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
>>> benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
>>> second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
>>> paying good wages to get good help.
>>
>> Can't argue with that.
>> Janet US
>>
>Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
>shopping there.
>
>I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
>and benefits.

That's true. I'm lending them money for a year. At the end of the
year 'I' get it all back plus some extra. I'm satisfied.
Janet US

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
> shopping there.
>
> I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
> and benefits.

You get the discount, they get your membership fee. If you don't
spend enough to save enough to cover the yearly cost of your card,
they'll refund the difference to you. I call that a win/win.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Walmart getting worse not better
 

On 6/20/2013 2:42 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2013 2:00 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> snip
>>>>
>>>> Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
>>>> benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
>>>> second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
>>>> paying good wages to get good help.
>>>
>>> Can't argue with that.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
>> shopping there.
>>
>> I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
>> and benefits.
>
> That's true. I'm lending them money for a year. At the end of the
> year 'I' get it all back plus some extra. I'm satisfied.
> Janet US
>

That said, when it comes to product - say meats and fish - they are far
better than Sam's Club.

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On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
>
>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>> the south.
>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>> item on my lists.
>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>> time.
>
> You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
> in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
> financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
> the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
> and poor benefits?
>

You make them sound like an oil company ;-)

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On 6/20/2013 2:43 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
>> shopping there.
>>
>> I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
>> and benefits.
>
> You get the discount, they get your membership fee. If you don't
> spend enough to save enough to cover the yearly cost of your card,
> they'll refund the difference to you. I call that a win/win.
>

I wasn't aware of the refund policy, then again I've never needed it.

A definite win/win.

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:46:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
> >
> >> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> >> shopper. They are going down fast.
> >> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
> >> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
> >> the south.
> >> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
> >> item on my lists.
> >> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
> >> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
> >> time.
> >
> > You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
> > in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
> > financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
> > the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
> > and poor benefits?
> >
>
> You make them sound like an oil company ;-)

Hm. It seems to me that oil companies at least give their employees
living wages and decent benefits. Not defending prices at the pump or
the way they rape the environment.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Walmart getting worse not better
 

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:25:47 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:29:00 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty odd, the one thing people generally don't bash Mal-Wart on is
>>> inventory and supply chain management.
>>
>> Their inventory sucks. Usually only the major brands and the
>> selection is very limited. Look at their deli case for example, for
>> example. 100% "Prima Della" crap, their own brand name of substandard
>> meats made by John Morell, IIRC.
>>
>> -sw
>
>
>Maybe it depends on where you are. I find them to be very well stocked in
>Northern CA.

True, chain stores cater to their customers... sqwertz lives in a
ghetto hood. The Walmarts where I live are extremely well stocked,
especially their deli... they have a huge selection of premium cold
cuts/cheeses... their delis are also scrupulously clean, and they have
top of the line automatic slicing machines that even weigh out the
order, but the best part is that their deli prices are like half that
of other nearby delis. Chain stores typically have each store cater
to the socio-econonimic strata of the location... sqwertz resides in
the asshole of texmexiness, he has to espect mierda.

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On 6/20/2013 3:15 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:46:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>>>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>>>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>>>> the south.
>>>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>>>> item on my lists.
>>>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>>>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
>>> in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
>>> financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
>>> the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
>>> and poor benefits?
>>>
>>
>> You make them sound like an oil company ;-)
>
> Hm. It seems to me that oil companies at least give their employees
> living wages and decent benefits. Not defending prices at the pump or
> the way they rape the environment.
>

Well in the US they do, but when they can exploit third world labor
markets like Africa's they do.

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On 6/20/2013 5:45 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:58:45 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:22:22 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:29:00 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pretty odd, the one thing people generally don't bash Mal-Wart on is
>>>> inventory and supply chain management.
>>>
>>> Their inventory sucks. Usually only the major brands and the
>>> selection is very limited. Look at their deli case for example, for
>>> example. 100% "Prima Della" crap, their own brand name of substandard
>>> meats made by John Morell, IIRC.
>>>
>> they're well stocked here and their deli selection is varied and good.
>> When I can't find something at Albertsons or Winco, I go to look at
>> Walmart.
>
> Like I said, it must be relative to your other grocery stores. WHat
> kind of stuff can you find at Walmart that you can't anywhere else?
> We must be spoiled by the non-Walmarts around here,.
>
> -sw
>
I'm sure not all WalMart's are created equal. However, I don't go out
of my way to shop there. The savings wouldn't outweigh the cost of
driving there and back. It doesn't matter. I wouldn't be looking for
good deli meats or good cheeses at WalMart, anyway. I've got a very
nice selection at the (much closer) Publix or Food Lion. (I don't like
Food Lion as much, it needs a face lift._

Sam Walton never intended WalMart to morph into a grocery store.

Jill

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On 6/20/2013 4:00 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:45:14 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Compare that to Costco. They pay liveable wages and damned good
>> benefits. Results: crowded stores, happy customers, and they're the
>> second-largest retailer in the US. Yes, you _can_ be profitable while
>> paying good wages to get good help.
>
> Can't argue with that.
> Janet US
>
Too bad Costco isn't everywhere WalMart is. I'd have to drive 125 miles
to get to a Costco. Then again, I don't shop at WalMart.

Jill

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On 6/20/2013 6:20 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/20/2013 5:45 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:58:45 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:22:22 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:29:00 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Pretty odd, the one thing people generally don't bash Mal-Wart on is
>>>>> inventory and supply chain management.
>>>>
>>>> Their inventory sucks. Usually only the major brands and the
>>>> selection is very limited. Look at their deli case for example, for
>>>> example. 100% "Prima Della" crap, their own brand name of substandard
>>>> meats made by John Morell, IIRC.
>>>>
>>> they're well stocked here and their deli selection is varied and good.
>>> When I can't find something at Albertsons or Winco, I go to look at
>>> Walmart.
>>
>> Like I said, it must be relative to your other grocery stores. WHat
>> kind of stuff can you find at Walmart that you can't anywhere else?
>> We must be spoiled by the non-Walmarts around here,.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> I'm sure not all WalMart's are created equal. However, I don't go out
> of my way to shop there. The savings wouldn't outweigh the cost of
> driving there and back. It doesn't matter. I wouldn't be looking for
> good deli meats or good cheeses at WalMart, anyway. I've got a very
> nice selection at the (much closer) Publix or Food Lion. (I don't like
> Food Lion as much, it needs a face lift._
>
> Sam Walton never intended WalMart to morph into a grocery store.
>
> Jill

Maybe not, but his heirs are glad it did.

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:45:37 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:58:45 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:22:22 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:29:00 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pretty odd, the one thing people generally don't bash Mal-Wart on is
>>>> inventory and supply chain management.
>>>
>>>Their inventory sucks. Usually only the major brands and the
>>>selection is very limited. Look at their deli case for example, for
>>>example. 100% "Prima Della" crap, their own brand name of substandard
>>>meats made by John Morell, IIRC.
>>>
>> they're well stocked here and their deli selection is varied and good.
>> When I can't find something at Albertsons or Winco, I go to look at
>> Walmart.
>
>Like I said, it must be relative to your other grocery stores. WHat
>kind of stuff can you find at Walmart that you can't anywhere else?
>We must be spoiled by the non-Walmarts around here,.
>
>-sw
I'm talking about stuff in the aisles. It must be that Walmart
operates off a master order sheet that covers all regions of the U.S.
I live in city that until recently didn't supply much in the way of
variety for Asian for example. Walmart (here at least) seems to
recognize a broad scope of ethnicity.
Janet US

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On 6/20/2013 8:30 PM, casa bona wrote:
> On 6/20/2013 6:20 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 6/20/2013 5:45 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:58:45 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:22:22 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:29:00 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty odd, the one thing people generally don't bash Mal-Wart on is
>>>>>> inventory and supply chain management.
>>>>>
>>>>> Their inventory sucks. Usually only the major brands and the
>>>>> selection is very limited. Look at their deli case for example, for
>>>>> example. 100% "Prima Della" crap, their own brand name of substandard
>>>>> meats made by John Morell, IIRC.
>>>>>
>>>> they're well stocked here and their deli selection is varied and good.
>>>> When I can't find something at Albertsons or Winco, I go to look at
>>>> Walmart.
>>>
>>> Like I said, it must be relative to your other grocery stores. WHat
>>> kind of stuff can you find at Walmart that you can't anywhere else?
>>> We must be spoiled by the non-Walmarts around here,.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>> I'm sure not all WalMart's are created equal. However, I don't go out
>> of my way to shop there. The savings wouldn't outweigh the cost of
>> driving there and back. It doesn't matter. I wouldn't be looking for
>> good deli meats or good cheeses at WalMart, anyway. I've got a very
>> nice selection at the (much closer) Publix or Food Lion. (I don't like
>> Food Lion as much, it needs a face lift._
>>
>> Sam Walton never intended WalMart to morph into a grocery store.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Maybe not, but his heirs are glad it did.

I'm sure they are. But the OP said WalMart is getting worse. They've
been known for years for having employee hours just low enough that they
aren't required to offer insurance or other benefits. The OP posted as
if this is surprising information. It's not.

Jill

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:53:43 -0600, casa bona > wrote:



>
>And anyone with a lower income level who actually needs the lowest price
>possible?
>
>Nice.

Don't blindly accept that they have the lowest prices. Sometimes yes,
but often, no.

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:29:00 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:



>
>Pretty odd, the one thing people generally don't bash Mal-Wart on is
>inventory and supply chain management.

Used to be odd, but no more. I went to two Wal Mart stores recently
and ended up at K Mart to get what I needed. These were items I buy
on a regular basis from the appliance department. I've heard quite a
few people complain.

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:



>>
>Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
>shopping there.
>
>I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
>and benefits.

No Costco near me but we pay $50 a year to shop at BJ's. I can save
that in one or two shopping trips compared to other stores. Some
years ago, I resisted thinking it was dumb to pay to shop. Then I
went to a store with a friend and saw some of the prices and joined up
that day.

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:

>For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>shopper. They are going down fast.
....

So YOU are part of this problem:

Frontline expose:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../walmart/view/

Music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw64hRgLBqM

Lyrics:
http://www.lyricsvip.com/The-Reveren...re-Lyrics.html


Results: Data from
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

U.S. Trade Imbalance with China (millions of dollars, to China)

Year Amount
1985 6
1986 1664
1987 2796
1988 3489
1989 6234
1990 10431
1991 12591
1992 18309
1993 22777
1994 29505
1995 33789
1996 39520
1997 47695
1998 56927
1999 68677
2000 83833
2001 83096
2002 103064
2003 124068
2004 161938
2005 201544
2006 232548
2007 258506
2008 268040
2009 208688
2010 273063
2011 295422
2012 315053

Not ME buddy!! I keep our money on THIS side pf the Pacific Ocean!!

John Kuthe...

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:49:53 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 6/20/2013 3:15 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:46:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> >>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
> >>>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
> >>>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
> >>>> the south.
> >>>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
> >>>> item on my lists.
> >>>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
> >>>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
> >>>> time.
> >>>
> >>> You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
> >>> in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
> >>> financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
> >>> the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
> >>> and poor benefits?
> >>>
> >>
> >> You make them sound like an oil company ;-)
> >
> > Hm. It seems to me that oil companies at least give their employees
> > living wages and decent benefits. Not defending prices at the pump or
> > the way they rape the environment.
> >
>
> Well in the US they do, but when they can exploit third world labor
> markets like Africa's they do.

Sorry, but that's their problem. I can tut tut and tsk tsk, but in
reality - there isn't much I can do. Here in the USA, I can at least
vote against local politicians who act as their minions.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

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On 6/20/2013 7:43 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/20/2013 8:30 PM, casa bona wrote:
>> On 6/20/2013 6:20 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 6/20/2013 5:45 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:58:45 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:22:22 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:29:00 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pretty odd, the one thing people generally don't bash Mal-Wart on is
>>>>>>> inventory and supply chain management.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Their inventory sucks. Usually only the major brands and the
>>>>>> selection is very limited. Look at their deli case for example, for
>>>>>> example. 100% "Prima Della" crap, their own brand name of
>>>>>> substandard
>>>>>> meats made by John Morell, IIRC.
>>>>>>
>>>>> they're well stocked here and their deli selection is varied and good.
>>>>> When I can't find something at Albertsons or Winco, I go to look at
>>>>> Walmart.
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, it must be relative to your other grocery stores. WHat
>>>> kind of stuff can you find at Walmart that you can't anywhere else?
>>>> We must be spoiled by the non-Walmarts around here,.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>> I'm sure not all WalMart's are created equal. However, I don't go out
>>> of my way to shop there. The savings wouldn't outweigh the cost of
>>> driving there and back. It doesn't matter. I wouldn't be looking for
>>> good deli meats or good cheeses at WalMart, anyway. I've got a very
>>> nice selection at the (much closer) Publix or Food Lion. (I don't like
>>> Food Lion as much, it needs a face lift._
>>>
>>> Sam Walton never intended WalMart to morph into a grocery store.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Maybe not, but his heirs are glad it did.
>
> I'm sure they are. But the OP said WalMart is getting worse. They've
> been known for years for having employee hours just low enough that they
> aren't required to offer insurance or other benefits. The OP posted as
> if this is surprising information. It's not.
>
> Jill

I agree, it's not.

I also know that by driving down their overhead they provide a
consistently low price scale on a host of goods that lower income
families rely on.

It baffles me why they get excoriated for doing something positive at
the lower end of the economic scale.

Does Dollar General get such scrutiny?

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On 6/20/2013 8:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:53:43 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>> And anyone with a lower income level who actually needs the lowest price
>> possible?
>>
>> Nice.
>
> Don't blindly accept that they have the lowest prices. Sometimes yes,
> but often, no.
>

I've seen enough shop-offs on the nightly news to conclude that in my
market at least they generally win.

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On 6/20/2013 8:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:08:24 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>
>
>>>
>> Just remember, you'll pay them $55-110 a year for the privilege of
>> shopping there.
>>
>> I suspect those fees make it a lot more palatable to offer higher wages
>> and benefits.
>
> No Costco near me but we pay $50 a year to shop at BJ's. I can save
> that in one or two shopping trips compared to other stores. Some
> years ago, I resisted thinking it was dumb to pay to shop. Then I
> went to a store with a friend and saw some of the prices and joined up
> that day.
>
No BJ's here, but I read good things about them too.

Either way, a membership fee increases their ability to offer better
benefits.

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On 6/20/2013 9:35 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:49:53 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2013 3:15 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:46:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:02:51 -0400, Mr.E > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>>>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>>>>>> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
>>>>>> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
>>>>>> the south.
>>>>>> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
>>>>>> item on my lists.
>>>>>> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
>>>>>> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
>>>>> in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
>>>>> financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
>>>>> the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
>>>>> and poor benefits?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You make them sound like an oil company ;-)
>>>
>>> Hm. It seems to me that oil companies at least give their employees
>>> living wages and decent benefits. Not defending prices at the pump or
>>> the way they rape the environment.
>>>
>>
>> Well in the US they do, but when they can exploit third world labor
>> markets like Africa's they do.
>
> Sorry, but that's their problem. I can tut tut and tsk tsk, but in
> reality - there isn't much I can do. Here in the USA, I can at least
> vote against local politicians who act as their minions.

That you can, but you can also research which oil companies use the most
imported product and decide accordingly.

Shell - nope, pass.

Sinclair (if you can find one) - yes - primarily domestic crude.

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Mr.E wrote:
> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> shopper. They are going down fast.
> Today they have been out of fatfree milk gallons for 2 weeks.
> They were out of vinegar gallons in the prime of cucumber harvest in
> the south.
> I have not been in Walmart in the last 8 or 9 months and found every
> item on my lists.
> Walmart upper management may be beyond salvage which is a shame to see
> happening. The "Peter principle" seems more valid with the passage of
> time.

I don't go there for groceries any more. When they first put in the grocery
section of our nearest one I was excited! They had things that we ate, that
other stores didn't have and the food was cheap! But then either they were
out of whatever it was, week after week or they flat out stopped carrying
it. I do buy a few things online like Cornnuts. But I don't venture into
the store.

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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:48:08 -0600, casa bona > wrote:

> On 6/20/2013 9:35 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:49:53 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/20/2013 3:15 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:46:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
> >>>>> in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
> >>>>> financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
> >>>>> the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
> >>>>> and poor benefits?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You make them sound like an oil company ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Hm. It seems to me that oil companies at least give their employees
> >>> living wages and decent benefits. Not defending prices at the pump or
> >>> the way they rape the environment.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well in the US they do, but when they can exploit third world labor
> >> markets like Africa's they do.
> >
> > Sorry, but that's their problem. I can tut tut and tsk tsk, but in
> > reality - there isn't much I can do. Here in the USA, I can at least
> > vote against local politicians who act as their minions.
>
> That you can, but you can also research which oil companies use the most
> imported product and decide accordingly.
>
> Shell - nope, pass.
>
To be perfectly honest, I don't care if the oil is domestic or
imported - it all stinks and I certainly do NOT want to support that
Keystone Pipeline.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

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On 6/20/2013 8:30 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> I'm talking about stuff in the aisles. It must be that Walmart
> operates off a master order sheet that covers all regions of the U.S.
> I live in city that until recently didn't supply much in the way of
> variety for Asian for example. Walmart (here at least) seems to
> recognize a broad scope of ethnicity.
> Janet US

When a store is opened, they stock what is referred to as a BMI - Basic
Merchandise Inventory. That inventory is set by computers based on what
sells in other local stores.

As each item is scanned and sold, the inventory is revised and stocking
levels are re-calculated. If an item sells well, the display space for
that item is increased. Items that don't sell well are often dropped.

The old retail rule is that 20% of your merchandise accounts for 80% of
your sales. Stores like Walmart and Kmart concentrate on that 20% which
is why you don't see the same selection of specialty items that you see
in other stores.

George L

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Janet Bostwick wrote:
> I'm talking about stuff in the aisles. It must be that Walmart
> operates off a master order sheet that covers all regions of the U.S.
> I live in city that until recently didn't supply much in the way of
> variety for Asian for example. Walmart (here at least) seems to
> recognize a broad scope of ethnicity.
> Janet US

ALL stores cater to the local demographic... items that don't sell
well or at all in a particular location are quickly dropped from
inventory, items that do sell are increased accordingly... it's just
that simple... that's how ALL businesses operate to maximize profit...
I live in genuwine baseball cap wearing redneck country, Rite Aid
sells more cheap beer than all other nearby stores combined.

In some areas the demographic is too varied and operating costs too
high for a store like Walmart, that's why there aren't any in NYC.
Walmart is primarilly a middle America kind of demographic retailer...
they try hard not to cater to any particular ethnicit nor will they
locate in a high rent district... NYC has tons of ethnic stores and
rent is way too high for Walmart to hold costs down. If one is
looking for the type of clothing worn by people of Central America
don't shop at Walmart or Sears... if one lives in a middle America
bible belt Walmart, Sears, and Green Acres is the place to be

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On 6/21/2013 12:49 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:48:08 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2013 9:35 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:49:53 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/20/2013 3:15 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:46:12 -0600, casa bona > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/20/2013 2:38 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You expected better from a company that received billions of dollars
>>>>>>> in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance, low-cost
>>>>>>> financing and outright grants from state and local governments around
>>>>>>> the country - and also expects taxpayers to subsidize their low wages
>>>>>>> and poor benefits?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You make them sound like an oil company ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm. It seems to me that oil companies at least give their employees
>>>>> living wages and decent benefits. Not defending prices at the pump or
>>>>> the way they rape the environment.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well in the US they do, but when they can exploit third world labor
>>>> markets like Africa's they do.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but that's their problem. I can tut tut and tsk tsk, but in
>>> reality - there isn't much I can do. Here in the USA, I can at least
>>> vote against local politicians who act as their minions.
>>
>> That you can, but you can also research which oil companies use the most
>> imported product and decide accordingly.
>>
>> Shell - nope, pass.
>>
> To be perfectly honest, I don't care if the oil is domestic or
> imported - it all stinks and I certainly do NOT want to support that
> Keystone Pipeline.

Sadly by opposing that the US is taking a few percent off Canada's GDP
each year and costing ourselves constructions jobs and refining revenues
needlessly.

They actually re-routed it around the sand Hills, so the last real
stumbling block is gone.

Canada's a good neighbor to us, we owe them a bit more than stalling.

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"Mr.E" > wrote in message
...
> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
> shopper. They are going down fast.

One can only hope and pray!
Graham

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"graham" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mr.E" > wrote in message
> ...
>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>
> One can only hope and pray!

Is that the same co. that owns ASDA?

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Mr.E" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> For the last 14 years or so I have been a steady Walmart weekly
>>> shopper. They are going down fast.
>>
>> One can only hope and pray!
>
> Is that the same co. that owns ASDA?
>
Yes!
In Canada, they took over all the old Woolworrth stores and serve the same
demographic.
Graham