I have never washed my rice before but... I bought a horking huge back of
aged Basmati brown at Costco. And I am using it to make Spanish rice. Yes,
I know this isn't the typical rice. I would normally use Texmati for this
but I only have one cup left and I want to make a very large batch of it.
So I need more rice than that. The only other brown rice I have is 1 cup of
long grain, which would be my second choice but again not enough. And a
couple of small packages of some kind of Asian rice which appears to be a
medium grain. So this is the closest thing that I have.

The directions say to wash in cold water, then cook at a ratio of 1 cup of
rice to 2.5 cups of water. Can add 1 tsp. of salt and oil if desired. You
are then directed to let this mixture soak for 15 minutes, the cook, bring
to a boil while stirring, then cover and simmer for 35 minutes.

I am not sure how this batch will turn out. The rice did appear to need to
be washed. There was a little crap in it. Like straw like stuff. Could
just be lone hulls or something. Dunno. I rinsed it well and drained it
and lost a few grains in the process. My intent was to use 2 cups of rice,
then about 4 cups of liquid which includes salsa. It is a cheap jarred
salsa and it contained a few lone kernels of corn and a few beans. I cooked
up a pound of small red beans earlier. I will probably add some of those
in. Maybe a cup or so plus a can of corn (drained) towards the end of the
cooking time. I am also adding a pound of cooked ground beef, and some
chopped red and green peppers and white onions. I did not measure these but
portioned them out for the freezer. Just eyeballing this there is probably
1.25 cups of each.

So... I kind of messed up in measuring out my liquids and I think that I
put in a little much because these veggies are not cooked and will add
liquid. I could cook them separately and then add them but I feel that I
will get a better flavor if they are cooked in there. So to compensate, I
intended to add another .25 cups of rice, but I screwed up and dumped in
about a half a cup. Yeah, I know I am going all metric then not. Deal with
it. Heh. Hopefully that part will all work out in the end. I'll check it
at about 25 minutes and add more water if I need to or cook it down a little
with the lid off if I need to do that.

But... I just wonder about the washing part. If you wash your rice... How
do you do it? I had read somewhere to put it in a colander and rinse it but
mine has holes that are far too large for this. I used to have a big wire
one but no longer do. Can't remember what became of it but I think perhaps
it broke somehow. I do have mesh strainers but they would be too small for
2 cups of rice. But... I also thought... If you are rinsing it in the
strainer, then only the teensy pieces of crap would drain out.

So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of times
then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand. I did lose
a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I just scooped it
with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather astounded at how
much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point because it totally
overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then! For the remaining bit that I added, I
just sort of did the same thing with the rice in the measuring cup then used
my hand to restrain it as I poured the water out. Again, lost a few pieces.
There has got to be a better way!

That should read "bag". Not "back". Gah!
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>I have never washed my rice before but... I bought a horking huge back of
>aged Basmati brown at Costco. And I am using it to make Spanish rice.
>Yes, I know this isn't the typical rice. I would normally use Texmati for
>this but I only have one cup left and I want to make a very large batch of
>it. So I need more rice than that. The only other brown rice I have is 1
>cup of long grain, which would be my second choice but again not enough.
>And a couple of small packages of some kind of Asian rice which appears to
>be a medium grain. So this is the closest thing that I have.
>
> The directions say to wash in cold water, then cook at a ratio of 1 cup of
> rice to 2.5 cups of water. Can add 1 tsp. of salt and oil if desired.
> You are then directed to let this mixture soak for 15 minutes, the cook,
> bring to a boil while stirring, then cover and simmer for 35 minutes.
>
> I am not sure how this batch will turn out. The rice did appear to need
> to be washed. There was a little crap in it. Like straw like stuff.
> Could just be lone hulls or something. Dunno. I rinsed it well and
> drained it and lost a few grains in the process. My intent was to use 2
> cups of rice, then about 4 cups of liquid which includes salsa. It is a
> cheap jarred salsa and it contained a few lone kernels of corn and a few
> beans. I cooked up a pound of small red beans earlier. I will probably
> add some of those in. Maybe a cup or so plus a can of corn (drained)
> towards the end of the cooking time. I am also adding a pound of cooked
> ground beef, and some chopped red and green peppers and white onions. I
> did not measure these but portioned them out for the freezer. Just
> eyeballing this there is probably 1.25 cups of each.
>
> So... I kind of messed up in measuring out my liquids and I think that I
> put in a little much because these veggies are not cooked and will add
> liquid. I could cook them separately and then add them but I feel that I
> will get a better flavor if they are cooked in there. So to compensate, I
> intended to add another .25 cups of rice, but I screwed up and dumped in
> about a half a cup. Yeah, I know I am going all metric then not. Deal
> with it. Heh. Hopefully that part will all work out in the end. I'll
> check it at about 25 minutes and add more water if I need to or cook it
> down a little with the lid off if I need to do that.
>
> But... I just wonder about the washing part. If you wash your rice...
> How do you do it? I had read somewhere to put it in a colander and rinse
> it but mine has holes that are far too large for this. I used to have a
> big wire one but no longer do. Can't remember what became of it but I
> think perhaps it broke somehow. I do have mesh strainers but they would
> be too small for 2 cups of rice. But... I also thought... If you are
> rinsing it in the strainer, then only the teensy pieces of crap would
> drain out.
>
> So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of times
> then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand. I did
> lose a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I just scooped
> it with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather astounded at
> how much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point because it totally
> overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then! For the remaining bit that I added, I
> just sort of did the same thing with the rice in the measuring cup then
> used my hand to restrain it as I poured the water out. Again, lost a few
> pieces. There has got to be a better way!
>

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I have never washed my rice before but... I bought a horking huge back of
>aged Basmati brown at Costco. And I am using it to make Spanish rice. Yes,
>I know this isn't the typical rice. I would normally use Texmati for this
>but I only have one cup left and I want to make a very large batch of it.
>So I need more rice than that. The only other brown rice I have is 1 cup of
>long grain, which would be my second choice but again not enough. And a
>couple of small packages of some kind of Asian rice which appears to be a
>medium grain. So this is the closest thing that I have.
....

I never wash my brown rice, which is my staple. But I'd be more
concerned with the different cooking times of the various types of
rice you mentioned. I know brown rice talkes a lot longer to cook
thoroughly than some other types of rice.

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I have never washed my rice before but... I bought a horking huge back of
>>aged Basmati brown at Costco. And I am using it to make Spanish rice.
>>Yes,
>>I know this isn't the typical rice. I would normally use Texmati for this
>>but I only have one cup left and I want to make a very large batch of it.
>>So I need more rice than that. The only other brown rice I have is 1 cup
>>of
>>long grain, which would be my second choice but again not enough. And a
>>couple of small packages of some kind of Asian rice which appears to be a
>>medium grain. So this is the closest thing that I have.
> ...
>
> I never wash my brown rice, which is my staple. But I'd be more
> concerned with the different cooking times of the various types of
> rice you mentioned. I know brown rice talkes a lot longer to cook
> thoroughly than some other types of rice.
>
> John Kuthe...

I did what it said and it wasn't done at the 35 minute mark plus there
wasn't a lot of liquid left in it. I added about a half a cup of water and
some more chili powder because it was a tad bland. Cooked for 15 more
minute and the end result was great! I can't even tell that it is a
different rice.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:


>
>But... I just wonder about the washing part. If you wash your rice... How
>do you do it? I had read somewhere to put it in a colander and rinse it but
>mine has holes that are far too large for this. I used to have a big wire
>one but no longer do.

Wash it in a screen type strainer. Basmati is one of the dirtier
rices and needs rinsing more than most.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:34:17 -0600, John Kuthe >
wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>I have never washed my rice before but... I bought a horking huge back of
>>aged Basmati brown at Costco. And I am using it to make Spanish rice. Yes,
>>I know this isn't the typical rice. I would normally use Texmati for this
>>but I only have one cup left and I want to make a very large batch of it.
>>So I need more rice than that. The only other brown rice I have is 1 cup of
>>long grain, which would be my second choice but again not enough. And a
>>couple of small packages of some kind of Asian rice which appears to be a
>>medium grain. So this is the closest thing that I have.
>...
>
>I never wash my brown rice, which is my staple. But I'd be more
>concerned with the different cooking times of the various types of
>rice you mentioned. I know brown rice talkes a lot longer to cook
>thoroughly than some other types of rice.
>
>John Kuthe...

US rice doesn't need washing, it's already clean... and definitely do
not rinse enriched rice or you'll wash away the added
vitamins/minerals. All rice from other countries needs through
washing due to their very unsanitary growing conditions... basmati is
especially filthy, buy texmati instead.

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>
With your bits of different brown rice I'd feed it all to the birds
and buy a package of new... brown rice has a short shelf life anyway,
unless refrigerated/frozen it goes rancid in less than a year... most
folks who eat brown rice don't notice the rancidity; TIAD.

<top posting due to too much detail, mostly worthless verbiage>
>I have never washed my rice before but... I bought a horking huge back of
>aged Basmati brown at Costco. And I am using it to make Spanish rice. Yes,
>I know this isn't the typical rice. I would normally use Texmati for this
>but I only have one cup left and I want to make a very large batch of it.
>So I need more rice than that. The only other brown rice I have is 1 cup of
>long grain, which would be my second choice but again not enough. And a
>couple of small packages of some kind of Asian rice which appears to be a
>medium grain. So this is the closest thing that I have.
>
>The directions say to wash in cold water, then cook at a ratio of 1 cup of
>rice to 2.5 cups of water. Can add 1 tsp. of salt and oil if desired. You
>are then directed to let this mixture soak for 15 minutes, the cook, bring
>to a boil while stirring, then cover and simmer for 35 minutes.
>
>I am not sure how this batch will turn out. The rice did appear to need to
>be washed. There was a little crap in it. Like straw like stuff. Could
>just be lone hulls or something. Dunno. I rinsed it well and drained it
>and lost a few grains in the process. My intent was to use 2 cups of rice,
>then about 4 cups of liquid which includes salsa. It is a cheap jarred
>salsa and it contained a few lone kernels of corn and a few beans. I cooked
>up a pound of small red beans earlier. I will probably add some of those
>in. Maybe a cup or so plus a can of corn (drained) towards the end of the
>cooking time. I am also adding a pound of cooked ground beef, and some
>chopped red and green peppers and white onions. I did not measure these but
>portioned them out for the freezer. Just eyeballing this there is probably
>1.25 cups of each.
>
>So... I kind of messed up in measuring out my liquids and I think that I
>put in a little much because these veggies are not cooked and will add
>liquid. I could cook them separately and then add them but I feel that I
>will get a better flavor if they are cooked in there. So to compensate, I
>intended to add another .25 cups of rice, but I screwed up and dumped in
>about a half a cup. Yeah, I know I am going all metric then not. Deal with
>it. Heh. Hopefully that part will all work out in the end. I'll check it
>at about 25 minutes and add more water if I need to or cook it down a little
>with the lid off if I need to do that.
>
>But... I just wonder about the washing part. If you wash your rice... How
>do you do it? I had read somewhere to put it in a colander and rinse it but
>mine has holes that are far too large for this. I used to have a big wire
>one but no longer do. Can't remember what became of it but I think perhaps
>it broke somehow. I do have mesh strainers but they would be too small for
>2 cups of rice. But... I also thought... If you are rinsing it in the
>strainer, then only the teensy pieces of crap would drain out.
>
>So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of times
>then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand. I did lose
>a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I just scooped it
>with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather astounded at how
>much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point because it totally
>overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then! For the remaining bit that I added, I
>just sort of did the same thing with the rice in the measuring cup then used
>my hand to restrain it as I poured the water out. Again, lost a few pieces.
>There has got to be a better way!
>

On 12/16/2012 10:45 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>
> With your bits of different brown rice I'd feed it all to the birds
> and buy a package of new... brown rice has a short shelf life anyway,
> unless refrigerated/frozen it goes rancid in less than a year... most
> folks who eat brown rice don't notice the rancidity; TIAD.
>
> <top posting due to too much detail, mostly worthless verbiage>

That rice would need to be cooked. Raw rice isn't good for birds.
Hell, most people don't even throw rice at weddings anymore.

Jill

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> >
> With your bits of different brown rice I'd feed it all to the birds
> and buy a package of new... brown rice has a short shelf life anyway,
> unless refrigerated/frozen it goes rancid in less than a year... most
> folks who eat brown rice don't notice the rancidity; TIAD.

Good info, Sheldon. I've got some brown rice about that old. I'll feed the
birds with it.

G.

On 12/16/2012 11:18 AM, Gary wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>
>> With your bits of different brown rice I'd feed it all to the birds
>> and buy a package of new... brown rice has a short shelf life anyway,
>> unless refrigerated/frozen it goes rancid in less than a year... most
>> folks who eat brown rice don't notice the rancidity; TIAD.
>
> Good info, Sheldon. I've got some brown rice about that old. I'll feed the
> birds with it.
>
> G.
>
Cook it first! Raw rice expands, as you well know, and as such is not
good for birds.

Jill

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of times
> then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand. I did lose
> a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I just scooped it
> with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather astounded at how
> much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point because it totally
> overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then! For the remaining bit that I added, I
> just sort of did the same thing with the rice in the measuring cup then used
> my hand to restrain it as I poured the water out. Again, lost a few pieces.
> There has got to be a better way!

Why are you measuring so much? The rice needed for paella isn't exact
and neither is the amount of water necessary to cook it.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:20:55 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >
> >But... I just wonder about the washing part. If you wash your rice... How
> >do you do it? I had read somewhere to put it in a colander and rinse it but
> >mine has holes that are far too large for this. I used to have a big wire
> >one but no longer do.
>
> Wash it in a screen type strainer. Basmati is one of the dirtier
> rices and needs rinsing more than most.

How does that get rid of what floats, like the stems she says were in
there.?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:43:50 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:20:55 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >But... I just wonder about the washing part. If you wash your rice... How
>> >do you do it? I had read somewhere to put it in a colander and rinse it but
>> >mine has holes that are far too large for this. I used to have a big wire
>> >one but no longer do.
>>
>> Wash it in a screen type strainer. Basmati is one of the dirtier
>> rices and needs rinsing more than most.
>
>How does that get rid of what floats, like the stems she says were in
>there.?

Put the strainer in a pot. Take the floaters out, lift strainer, then
rinse.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 12/16/2012 11:18 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>
> >> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> >>>
> >> With your bits of different brown rice I'd feed it all to the birds
> >> and buy a package of new... brown rice has a short shelf life anyway,
> >> unless refrigerated/frozen it goes rancid in less than a year... most
> >> folks who eat brown rice don't notice the rancidity; TIAD.
> >
> > Good info, Sheldon. I've got some brown rice about that old. I'll feed the
> > birds with it.
> >
> > G.
> >
> Cook it first! Raw rice expands, as you well know, and as such is not
> good for birds.
>
> Jill

I'll do that Jill. The last many weddings I've attended didn't want us to
throw the traditional rice, they requested bird seed instead.

Gary

On 12/16/2012 12:00 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 12/16/2012 11:18 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> With your bits of different brown rice I'd feed it all to the birds
>>>> and buy a package of new... brown rice has a short shelf life anyway,
>>>> unless refrigerated/frozen it goes rancid in less than a year... most
>>>> folks who eat brown rice don't notice the rancidity; TIAD.
>>>
>>> Good info, Sheldon. I've got some brown rice about that old. I'll feed the
>>> birds with it.
>>>
>>> G.
>>>
>> Cook it first! Raw rice expands, as you well know, and as such is not
>> good for birds.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I'll do that Jill. The last many weddings I've attended didn't want us to
> throw the traditional rice, they requested bird seed instead.
>
> Gary
>
Same here, Gary. I've even helped a girlfriend make what *felt like*
hundreds of those little "bird seed bags" with squares of tulle netting,
each little bag tied with a tiny slippery ribbon. A cutesy thing to be
given to the wedding guests so they'll have something to throw. What a
PITA that was! But yes, please, cook the rice.

Jill

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> That should read "bag". Not "back". Gah!

What? You didn't buy a back of rice?
Are you sure it was rice and not ribs?
I never wash ribs.

On 2012-12-16 08:36:00 +0000, Julie Bove said:

> But... I just wonder about the washing part. If you wash your rice...
> How do you do it?

With water. I put cold water into a mixing bowl with the rice, swish
it around with my hand for a minutre and then drain. I then do this
twice more. But I'm making Japanese white rice almost all the time.
Sometimes with white basmati I now do the same washing because... well,
because that's the way I do it now.

> I had read somewhere to put it in a colander and rinse it but mine has
> holes that are far too large for this.

I have a plastic bowl I got in a Japanese supermarket that has a thin
drainage grill up on one top are near the rim. I drain it through
that. But you can just do it in a bowl and just carefully drain the
water to avoid losing rice. You don't have to get every drop if you're
going to wash it multiple times.

> So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of
> times then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand.
> I did lose a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I
> just scooped it with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather
> astounded at how much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point
> because it totally overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then!

Yeah; I think brown rice is a different beats. I don't care for it by
the way, but the wife would like to eat it more.

> For the remaining bit that I added, I just sort of did the same thing
> with the rice in the measuring cup then used my hand to restrain it as
> I poured the water out. Again, lost a few pieces. There has got to be
> a better way!

Planning what you intend to do and actually doing it that way is a good start.

On 2012-12-16 16:18:59 +0000, Gary said:

>> With your bits of different brown rice I'd feed it all to the birds
>> and buy a package of new... brown rice has a short shelf life anyway,
>> unless refrigerated/frozen it goes rancid in less than a year... most
>> folks who eat brown rice don't notice the rancidity...
>
> Good info, Sheldon. I've got some brown rice about that old. I'll feed the
> birds with it.

If you can't taste the difference, what bother?

I thought that "rancid" was a reference of oil and the oil within a
product going south. I didn't know that brown rice had oil in it.

On 2012-12-16 16:42:26 +0000, sf said:

> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of times
>> then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand. I did lose
>> a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I just scooped it
>> with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather astounded at how
>> much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point because it totally
>> overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then! For the remaining bit that I added, I
>> just sort of did the same thing with the rice in the measuring cup then used
>> my hand to restrain it as I poured the water out. Again, lost a few pieces.
>> There has got to be a better way!
>
> Why are you measuring so much? The rice needed for paella isn't exact
> and neither is the amount of water necessary to cook it.

If you don't know what you're doing, measuring stuff gives you a way to
analyze what you did wrong after the fact.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:42:28 -0800, gtr > wrote:

> I think brown rice is a different beats. I don't care for it by
> the way, but the wife would like to eat it more.

Maybe brown rice is a female thing. Hubby doesn't like it very much,
I think it has a nutty flavor and love it when I cook it in diluted
broth (chicken or vegetable).

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> >
>> With your bits of different brown rice I'd feed it all to the birds
>> and buy a package of new... brown rice has a short shelf life anyway,
>> unless refrigerated/frozen it goes rancid in less than a year... most
>> folks who eat brown rice don't notice the rancidity; TIAD.
>
> Good info, Sheldon. I've got some brown rice about that old. I'll feed
> the
> birds with it.

No DON'T FEED THE BIRDS RICE. You will KILL them. Rice expands in their
stomachs and they DIE.

Feed them birdseed.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>> >
>>> With your bits of different brown rice I'd feed it all to the birds
>>> and buy a package of new... brown rice has a short shelf life anyway,
>>> unless refrigerated/frozen it goes rancid in less than a year... most
>>> folks who eat brown rice don't notice the rancidity; TIAD.
>>
>> Good info, Sheldon. I've got some brown rice about that old. I'll feed
>> the
>> birds with it.
>
> No DON'T FEED THE BIRDS RICE. You will KILL them. Rice expands in their
> stomachs and they DIE.
>
> Feed them birdseed.


Actually they don't have stomachs they have crops but rice does expand and
it does kill them.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>
>>But... I just wonder about the washing part. If you wash your rice...
>>How
>>do you do it? I had read somewhere to put it in a colander and rinse it
>>but
>>mine has holes that are far too large for this. I used to have a big wire
>>one but no longer do.
>
> Wash it in a screen type strainer. Basmati is one of the dirtier
> rices and needs rinsing more than most.

Thanks!

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:34:17 -0600, John Kuthe >
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>I have never washed my rice before but... I bought a horking huge back
>>>of
>>>aged Basmati brown at Costco. And I am using it to make Spanish rice.
>>>Yes,
>>>I know this isn't the typical rice. I would normally use Texmati for
>>>this
>>>but I only have one cup left and I want to make a very large batch of it.
>>>So I need more rice than that. The only other brown rice I have is 1 cup
>>>of
>>>long grain, which would be my second choice but again not enough. And a
>>>couple of small packages of some kind of Asian rice which appears to be a
>>>medium grain. So this is the closest thing that I have.
>>...
>>
>>I never wash my brown rice, which is my staple. But I'd be more
>>concerned with the different cooking times of the various types of
>>rice you mentioned. I know brown rice talkes a lot longer to cook
>>thoroughly than some other types of rice.
>>
>>John Kuthe...
>
> US rice doesn't need washing, it's already clean... and definitely do
> not rinse enriched rice or you'll wash away the added
> vitamins/minerals. All rice from other countries needs through
> washing due to their very unsanitary growing conditions... basmati is
> especially filthy, buy texmati instead.

I normally do buy Texmati but this was sooo much cheaper!

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of
>> times
>> then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand. I did
>> lose
>> a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I just scooped it
>> with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather astounded at how
>> much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point because it totally
>> overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then! For the remaining bit that I added, I
>> just sort of did the same thing with the rice in the measuring cup then
>> used
>> my hand to restrain it as I poured the water out. Again, lost a few
>> pieces.
>> There has got to be a better way!
>
> Why are you measuring so much? The rice needed for paella isn't exact
> and neither is the amount of water necessary to cook it.
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of
>> times
>> then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand. I did
>> lose
>> a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I just scooped it
>> with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather astounded at how
>> much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point because it totally
>> overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then! For the remaining bit that I added, I
>> just sort of did the same thing with the rice in the measuring cup then
>> used
>> my hand to restrain it as I poured the water out. Again, lost a few
>> pieces.
>> There has got to be a better way!
>
> Why are you measuring so much? The rice needed for paella isn't exact
> and neither is the amount of water necessary to cook it.
>

But I didn't make paella and wouldn't!

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2012121612422835263-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2012-12-16 08:36:00 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>
>> But... I just wonder about the washing part. If you wash your rice...
>> How do you do it?
>
> With water. I put cold water into a mixing bowl with the rice, swish it
> around with my hand for a minutre and then drain. I then do this twice
> more. But I'm making Japanese white rice almost all the time. Sometimes
> with white basmati I now do the same washing because... well, because
> that's the way I do it now.
>
>> I had read somewhere to put it in a colander and rinse it but mine has
>> holes that are far too large for this.
>
> I have a plastic bowl I got in a Japanese supermarket that has a thin
> drainage grill up on one top are near the rim. I drain it through that.
> But you can just do it in a bowl and just carefully drain the water to
> avoid losing rice. You don't have to get every drop if you're going to
> wash it multiple times.
>
>> So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of
>> times then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand. I
>> did lose a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I just
>> scooped it with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather
>> astounded at how much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point because
>> it totally overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then!
>
> Yeah; I think brown rice is a different beats. I don't care for it by the
> way, but the wife would like to eat it more.
>
>> For the remaining bit that I added, I just sort of did the same thing
>> with the rice in the measuring cup then used my hand to restrain it as I
>> poured the water out. Again, lost a few pieces. There has got to be a
>> better way!
>
> Planning what you intend to do and actually doing it that way is a good
> start.

Thanks!

On 12/15/2012 10:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> That should read "bag". Not "back". Gah!

I've been thinking about a gizmo that washes rice automatically.
Essentially, an upright tube made of plexiglass that you put the rice
into. Water and air in the form of fine bubbles are injected at the
bottom of the tube. The bubbles attach themselves to any debris and fine
particles and carry them to the open top where it overflows out. The
bubbles also create a positive water flow in one direction i.e., debris
and fine particles do not get redeposited back onto the rice as in
conventional rice washing. My guess is that the cleaning action of the
air bubbles and the positive water flow would allow you to clean the
rice in half the time using the same or less amount of water.

Of course, most people wouldn't want something like this, unless they
wash rice several times a day. Restaurants might like such a device.

On 2012-12-16 22:49:48 +0000, dsi1 said:

> I've been thinking about a gizmo that washes rice automatically.
> Essentially, an upright tube made of plexiglass that you put the rice
> into. Water and air in the form of fine bubbles are injected at the
> bottom of the tube.

A cold water jacuzzi for rice kernals.

> The bubbles attach themselves to any debris and fine particles and
> carry them to the open top where it overflows out.

But how does an air bubble attach itself to debris? Why wouldn't it
consider rice as debris? I'm not sure what thrasing the rice with your
hand is any less inclined to shake debris loose and if passed through a
collander would drain it away.

> The bubbles also create a positive water flow in one direction i.e.,
> debris and fine particles do not get redeposited back onto the rice as
> in conventional rice washing. My guess is that the cleaning action of
> the air bubbles and the positive water flow would allow you to clean
> the rice in half the time using the same or less amount of water.
>
> Of course, most people wouldn't want something like this, unless they
> wash rice several times a day. Restaurants might like such a device.

But sadly they have less objections about micro impurities in such as
rice than the actual consumer does.

On 12/16/2012 1:25 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2012-12-16 22:49:48 +0000, dsi1 said:
>
>> I've been thinking about a gizmo that washes rice automatically.
>> Essentially, an upright tube made of plexiglass that you put the rice
>> into. Water and air in the form of fine bubbles are injected at the
>> bottom of the tube.
>
> A cold water jacuzzi for rice kernals.
>
>> The bubbles attach themselves to any debris and fine particles and
>> carry them to the open top where it overflows out.
>
> But how does an air bubble attach itself to debris? Why wouldn't it
> consider rice as debris? I'm not sure what thrasing the rice with your
> hand is any less inclined to shake debris loose and if passed through a
> collander would drain it away.

It has something to do with the increased surface area and surface
tension - I don't know exactly how it works but this does happen when
you shoot air and water through rice. The rice grains are too dense to
be carried away by the bubbles.

>
>> The bubbles also create a positive water flow in one direction i.e.,
>> debris and fine particles do not get redeposited back onto the rice as
>> in conventional rice washing. My guess is that the cleaning action of
>> the air bubbles and the positive water flow would allow you to clean
>> the rice in half the time using the same or less amount of water.
>>
>> Of course, most people wouldn't want something like this, unless they
>> wash rice several times a day. Restaurants might like such a device.
>
> But sadly they have less objections about micro impurities in such as
> rice than the actual consumer does.
>

Let's face it, it's a shitty job. It was a chore that the sushi
apprentice had to do for years until he moved up in skill and rank. In
this age of robo-sushi, I doubt that this is still true.

Now, can we have that in 100 words or less? You seem to have a problem defining a situation or formulating a question. Maybe you're just practicing your typing? Please, spare us the verbosity and rewrite the post?

In article >, lid
says...
>
> On 12/16/2012 1:25 PM, gtr wrote:
> > On 2012-12-16 22:49:48 +0000, dsi1 said:
> >
> >> I've been thinking about a gizmo that washes rice automatically.
> >> Essentially, an upright tube made of plexiglass that you put the rice
> >> into. Water and air in the form of fine bubbles are injected at the
> >> bottom of the tube.
> >
> > A cold water jacuzzi for rice kernals.
> >
> >> The bubbles attach themselves to any debris and fine particles and
> >> carry them to the open top where it overflows out.
> >
> > But how does an air bubble attach itself to debris? Why wouldn't it
> > consider rice as debris? I'm not sure what thrasing the rice with your
> > hand is any less inclined to shake debris loose and if passed through a
> > collander would drain it away.
>
> It has something to do with the increased surface area and surface
> tension - I don't know exactly how it works but this does happen when
> you shoot air and water through rice. The rice grains are too dense to
> be carried away by the bubbles.
>
> >
> >> The bubbles also create a positive water flow in one direction i.e.,
> >> debris and fine particles do not get redeposited back onto the rice as
> >> in conventional rice washing. My guess is that the cleaning action of
> >> the air bubbles and the positive water flow would allow you to clean
> >> the rice in half the time using the same or less amount of water.
> >>
> >> Of course, most people wouldn't want something like this, unless they
> >> wash rice several times a day. Restaurants might like such a device.
> >
> > But sadly they have less objections about micro impurities in such as
> > rice than the actual consumer does.
> >
>
> Let's face it, it's a shitty job. It was a chore that the sushi
> apprentice had to do for years until he moved up in skill and rank. In
> this age of robo-sushi, I doubt that this is still true.

If you google "rice washer" you will find expensive commercial ones for
restaurant use and purpose made bowls for home use. Remember, the
Japanese eat rice with just about every meal and they love gadgets. If
there was a market for an automated rice washer for home use they'd be
selling one.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:26:12 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of
> >> times
> >> then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand. I did
> >> lose
> >> a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I just scooped it
> >> with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather astounded at how
> >> much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point because it totally
> >> overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then! For the remaining bit that I added, I
> >> just sort of did the same thing with the rice in the measuring cup then
> >> used
> >> my hand to restrain it as I poured the water out. Again, lost a few
> >> pieces.
> >> There has got to be a better way!
> >
> > Why are you measuring so much? The rice needed for paella isn't exact
> > and neither is the amount of water necessary to cook it.
> >
>
> But I didn't make paella and wouldn't!
>
Excuuuuuse me. "Spanish rice" transposed to paella for me after who
knows how many posts. Sorry. AFAIC, "spanish rice" would need even
less precision.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:26:12 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:36:00 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> So... I put it all in my pot, filled the pot with water a couple of
>> >> times
>> >> then drained most of it off, restraining the rice with my hand. I did
>> >> lose
>> >> a few grains in doing this. Then to get the rice out, I just scooped
>> >> it
>> >> with my hand back into the measuring cup. I was rather astounded at
>> >> how
>> >> much liquid the rice had soaked up at that point because it totally
>> >> overfilled the 2.5 cup, cup then! For the remaining bit that I added,
>> >> I
>> >> just sort of did the same thing with the rice in the measuring cup
>> >> then
>> >> used
>> >> my hand to restrain it as I poured the water out. Again, lost a few
>> >> pieces.
>> >> There has got to be a better way!
>> >
>> > Why are you measuring so much? The rice needed for paella isn't exact
>> > and neither is the amount of water necessary to cook it.
>> >
>>
>> But I didn't make paella and wouldn't!
>>
> Excuuuuuse me. "Spanish rice" transposed to paella for me after who
> knows how many posts. Sorry. AFAIC, "spanish rice" would need even
> less precision.

Really? So you like to eat soupy Spanish rice? To me, Spanish rice is a
very specific type of dish although some ingredients could vary. But soupy
isn't how it should be. So it is necessary to get the liquid amount
correct.

On 12/16/2012 3:53 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>
> If you google "rice washer" you will find expensive commercial ones for
> restaurant use and purpose made bowls for home use. Remember, the
> Japanese eat rice with just about every meal and they love gadgets. If
> there was a market for an automated rice washer for home use they'd be
> selling one.
>


I know that the automatic rice cooker was as important an invention for
the Japanese as the electric washing machine was for the Western family.
The thing about my idea is that it uses a new method of washing rice.
The designs for home use appear to be just another container for washing
rice.

Nice Post..thanks for tips!

dsi1 wrote:
>
> I know that the automatic rice cooker was as important an invention for
> the Japanese as the electric washing machine was for the Western family.
> The thing about my idea is that it uses a new method of washing rice.
> The designs for home use appear to be just another container for washing
> rice.

You need to combine these functions in one machine,
the Bovetron.

On 12/17/2012 12:41 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> I know that the automatic rice cooker was as important an invention for
>> the Japanese as the electric washing machine was for the Western family.
>> The thing about my idea is that it uses a new method of washing rice.
>> The designs for home use appear to be just another container for washing
>> rice.
>
> You need to combine these functions in one machine,
> the Bovetron.
>

For the Japan market, I'm thinking "Raisuamatukusu." For the domestic
market, "George Foreman's Lean, Mean, Grit Bustin', Rice-Washin',
Machine."