Happy Thanksgiving.
Thank goodness we did turkey day last month. That gives us a longer
respite between my least favourite poultry dinner. But all the other
stuff is good.

On Nov 23, 9:58*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Happy Thanksgiving.
> Thank goodness we did turkey day last month. That gives us a longer
> respite between my least favourite poultry dinner. But all the other
> stuff is good.

>
>
You don't like turkey? Why not, too dry, too much of it leftover you
have to finish?

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
. com...
> Happy Thanksgiving.
> Thank goodness we did turkey day last month. That gives us a longer
> respite between my least favourite poultry dinner. But all the other stuff
> is good.


I hear ya! I am not a fan of turkey. They are offering a Thanksgiving
buffet at the club. Of course it includes turkey and the usual trimmings.
But the buffet also includes local seafood (crab & shrimp) and prime rib!
Now we're talking

Jill

On 2011-11-24, jmcquown > wrote:

> buffet at the club. Of course it includes turkey and the usual trimmings.
> But the buffet also includes local seafood (crab & shrimp) and prime rib!
> Now we're talking

So, maybe joining that club is not such a bad idea, after all.

nb

On 2011-11-24, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Happy Thanksgiving.

Likewise, Dave.

I'll be taking mom to the local Catholic church which puts on a huge
free dinner with all the trimmings. The Catholic church does one on
T-day and the Presbyterian church on X-day. Both as good as any big
restaurant and all are welcome at no charge. Natch, I make generous
contributions to both, the meal being well beyond good, and also
relieves me of having to knock something out in our microscopic
kitchen. Plus, mom gets out and gets to socialize a bit. I know I'm
thankful.

Happy Thanksgiving, all.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2011-11-24, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> buffet at the club. Of course it includes turkey and the usual
>> trimmings.
>> But the buffet also includes local seafood (crab & shrimp) and prime rib!
>> Now we're talking
>
> So, maybe joining that club is not such a bad idea, after all.
>
> nb


Maybe not, nb, but I didn't have a choice. It's also a "use it or lose it"
situation. I have to eat $XXX worth of meals at their "club". Otherwise
I'll have prepaid for food I never ate. I'd hardly call that a good idea.
I call it an HOA ripoff.

Jill

On 24/11/2011 1:06 AM, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
> On Nov 23, 9:58 pm, Dave > wrote:
>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>> Thank goodness we did turkey day last month. That gives us a longer
>> respite between my least favourite poultry dinner. But all the other
>> stuff is good.
>
>>
>>
> You don't like turkey? Why not, too dry, too much of it leftover you
> have to finish?

I don't hate it. It is not my favourite fowl. Then there are the
leftovers. I could eat leftover chicken every day for a week or two, but
I tire of leftover turkey much faster.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:02:31 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
.com...
>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>> Thank goodness we did turkey day last month. That gives us a longer
>> respite between my least favourite poultry dinner. But all the other stuff
>> is good.
>
>
>I hear ya! I am not a fan of turkey. They are offering a Thanksgiving
>buffet at the club. Of course it includes turkey and the usual trimmings.
>But the buffet also includes local seafood (crab & shrimp) and prime rib!
>Now we're talking
>
>Jill

And it's only $500! LOL

notbob wrote:
>
>Happy Thanksgiving, all.

Got my kasha varnishkas made yesterday. Sweet potatoes are ready to
pop into the oven. Been defrosting in the fridge since Saturday but
my 14lb turkey still had a little ice in the middle but it's ready to
season (within the next few minutes) and pop in the oven for like four
hours at 325ºF. I got a frozen Mrs. Smith's pumpkin pie

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

On 11/24/2011 9:11 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Maybe not, nb, but I didn't have a choice. It's also a "use it or lose
> it" situation. I have to eat $XXX worth of meals at their "club".
> Otherwise I'll have prepaid for food I never ate. I'd hardly call that
> a good idea. I call it an HOA ripoff.

Weren't you made aware of these HOA rules when you bought the house?
I'm thinking that you had to sign your agreement to the terms at closing.

If not, you certainly have a case against their enforcing the rules.

If you were aware and accepted them, why are you complaining about it now?

George L

uh because she didn't purchase the house, Lee
"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/24/2011 9:11 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Maybe not, nb, but I didn't have a choice. It's also a "use it or lose
>> it" situation. I have to eat $XXX worth of meals at their "club".
>> Otherwise I'll have prepaid for food I never ate. I'd hardly call that
>> a good idea. I call it an HOA ripoff.
>
> Weren't you made aware of these HOA rules when you bought the house? I'm
> thinking that you had to sign your agreement to the terms at closing.
>
> If not, you certainly have a case against their enforcing the rules.
>
> If you were aware and accepted them, why are you complaining about it now?
>
> George L
>
>

On 2011-11-24, jmcquown > wrote:

> I call it an HOA ripoff.

Ahhh... one of those. Such are life's little burdens. At least
you'll be socialized and satiated in one easy step.

nb

On 11/23/2011 9:58 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> Happy Thanksgiving.
> Thank goodness we did turkey day last month. That gives us a longer
> respite between my least favourite poultry dinner. But all the other
> stuff is good.

I like turkey, duck, quail but not so crazy for chicken. Never tried goose.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/24/2011 9:11 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Maybe not, nb, but I didn't have a choice. It's also a "use it or lose
>> it" situation. I have to eat $XXX worth of meals at their "club".
>> Otherwise I'll have prepaid for food I never ate. I'd hardly call that
>> a good idea. I call it an HOA ripoff.
>
> Weren't you made aware of these HOA rules when you bought the house? I'm
> thinking that you had to sign your agreement to the terms at closing.
>
> If not, you certainly have a case against their enforcing the rules.
>
> If you were aware and accepted them, why are you complaining about it now?
>
> George L
>
>
George, I didn't buy this house. I inherited it. Trust me, if I bought a
house it certainly wouldn't be one with restrictive rules and a geezers in
golf pants in the back yard.

Jill

On 11/24/2011 10:54 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
> George, I didn't buy this house. I inherited it. Trust me, if I bought
> a house it certainly wouldn't be one with restrictive rules and a
> geezers in golf pants in the back yard.

We have a golf course in our backyard and I completely understand about
the geezers. While it is very pretty, living on a golf course gives you
no privacy at all.

(PS - we are moving in a few weeks but not for that reason)

That is pretty cool inheriting a house. FWIW.... having to join a HOA
even with restrictive rules to inherit a house seems like a small price
to pay in the Grand Scheme of Things.

George L

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/24/2011 10:54 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>> George, I didn't buy this house. I inherited it. Trust me, if I bought
>> a house it certainly wouldn't be one with restrictive rules and a
>> geezers in golf pants in the back yard.
>
> We have a golf course in our backyard and I completely understand about
> the geezers. While it is very pretty, living on a golf course gives you
> no privacy at all.
>
No privacy whatsoever. I'm not even allowed to put up a fence.

> (PS - we are moving in a few weeks but not for that reason)
>
> That is pretty cool inheriting a house.

Sorry, but I don't think it's cool. It was very generous of my mother to
leave me the house. But this is the last place I'd have chosen to live.

> FWIW.... having to join a HOA even with restrictive rules to inherit a
> house seems like a small price to pay in the Grand Scheme of Things.
>
> George L

Yeah... well the house was built in 1987 and my parents didn't bother with
what could be considered upgrades. Sorry, but the kitchen and bathrooms
still have the original fixtures including garish wallpaper, linoleum floors
and formica counter tops. I'm not impressed with the Grand Scheme of
Things.

As fast as the HOA goes, I don't react well to people telling me how I have
to live my life, especially not when I have to pay them to tell me how to
live it.

Jill

On 11/24/2011 9:11 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Maybe not, nb, but I didn't have a choice. It's also a "use it or
> lose it" situation. I have to eat $XXX worth of meals at their
> "club". Otherwise I'll have prepaid for food I never ate. I'd hardly
> call that a good idea. I call it an HOA ripoff.
>
> Jill

We had similar rules where I used to live. My problem was, the golf
course and swimming pools were closed on Monday, and that was my day off.

Becca

On 11/24/2011 10:54 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> George, I didn't buy this house. I inherited it. Trust me, if I
> bought a house it certainly wouldn't be one with restrictive rules and
> a geezers in golf pants in the back yard.
>
> Jill

Haha, we see these geezers every day, including today. There is one old
guy, who uses two golf clubs, as walking sticks, in order to make it to
the green. I guess he doesn't want to use a walker because it would
make him look old.

Becca

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:11:42 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2011-11-24, jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> buffet at the club. Of course it includes turkey and the usual
>>> trimmings.
>>> But the buffet also includes local seafood (crab & shrimp) and prime rib!
>>> Now we're talking
>>
>> So, maybe joining that club is not such a bad idea, after all.
>>
>> nb
>
>
>Maybe not, nb, but I didn't have a choice. It's also a "use it or lose it"
>situation. I have to eat $XXX worth of meals at their "club". Otherwise
>I'll have prepaid for food I never ate. I'd hardly call that a good idea.
>I call it an HOA ripoff.

Does that $XXX worth include your bar tab, just asking.
Is their food good? How are their prices? Can you post a menu?
Maybe it's a nice place to eat at their bar and socialize.
It's probably worthwhile to do take-out too. With how food
prices are nowadays reaching the minimum $XXX worth of meals
won't take very long. Membership at the golf courses here include a
lot of freebies and low priced social events... I'm not a member and
still I attend some events; I like to attend The Big Bash, each 4th of
July there's a full prime rib dinner with horsdoovers, desserts, an
open bar, a live band, and entertainment, plus a huge fireworks
display on the lake... all outdoors in an open pavillion (just a
roof), all for $15 last time... and includes free mosquitos. hehe They
used to let folks fix their own drinks but now there are bar tenders.
It's more than worth the price. They have the fireworks every Friday
after sundown all summer and even though it's several miles away I
have a perfect view from my window.

On 11/24/2011 12:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> Yeah... well the house was built in 1987 and my parents didn't bother
> with what could be considered upgrades. Sorry, but the kitchen and
> bathrooms still have the original fixtures including garish wallpaper,
> linoleum floors and formica counter tops. I'm not impressed with the
> Grand Scheme of Things.


I'm sorry, Jill.... I just can't seem to find much sympathy for someone
who inherits a house. In this economy, that is a financial windfall that
most people will never experience and your complaining about the HOA,
decor and location comes across as petty whining.

BTW - the house I am moving into has Formica counter tops, linoleum
floor in the kitchen and is painted a horrid shade of what can only be
described as "pea soup green". There is a sculptured wall to wall
carpet that may be 30 years old. We are painting, repairing some
things, replacing others. We can't do everything at once, but we will
get it all done sooner or later.

It isn't perfect, but I'm thankful that when we are done, we will have a
good roof over our heads and a place that we can call home. There are a
lot of people out there who don't have it anywhere near as good as we do.

And if you aren't impressed with the Grand Scheme of Things, maybe you
should visit a homeless shelter... or a soup kitchen. Take a walk
through a ghetto or check out some of the people who depend on Food
Banks to feed their kids.

Then come back and complain about having to "eat at the Club" or your
garish wallpaper, linoleum floors and Formica counter tops.

Happy Thanksgiving.

George L

Happy Thanksgiving to you too, Dave, and everyone else in this group!
Hope you have a wonderful day...full of many blessings, and have much to
be thankful for!

I have had our turkey in the oven (with dressing inside) for a couple of
hours already, even though we're going with our local family to a
restaurant for a Thanksgiving brunch. They'll come here for turkey
sandwiches, etc. later today, and pumpkin, apple and banana cream pies,
which I made yesterday. Tomorrow for dinner, I will slice some turkey to
heat up, and also the dressing, and fix a a pot of mashed spuds and
giblet gravy from the drippings, etc. and we'll enjoy our "leftovers".
We really like turkey, but would rather have it in sandwiches than any
other way.

Judy

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:48:00 -0600, George Leppla
> wrote:

>On 11/24/2011 12:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Yeah... well the house was built in 1987 and my parents didn't bother
>> with what could be considered upgrades. Sorry, but the kitchen and
>> bathrooms still have the original fixtures including garish wallpaper,
>> linoleum floors and formica counter tops. I'm not impressed with the
>> Grand Scheme of Things.
>
>
>I'm sorry, Jill.... I just can't seem to find much sympathy for someone
>who inherits a house. In this economy, that is a financial windfall that
>most people will never experience and your complaining about the HOA,
>decor and location comes across as petty whining.
>
>BTW - the house I am moving into has Formica counter tops, linoleum
>floor in the kitchen and is painted a horrid shade of what can only be
>described as "pea soup green". There is a sculptured wall to wall
>carpet that may be 30 years old. We are painting, repairing some
>things, replacing others. We can't do everything at once, but we will
>get it all done sooner or later.
>
>It isn't perfect, but I'm thankful that when we are done, we will have a
>good roof over our heads and a place that we can call home. There are a
>lot of people out there who don't have it anywhere near as good as we do.
>
>And if you aren't impressed with the Grand Scheme of Things, maybe you
>should visit a homeless shelter... or a soup kitchen. Take a walk
>through a ghetto or check out some of the people who depend on Food
>Banks to feed their kids.
>
>Then come back and complain about having to "eat at the Club" or your
>garish wallpaper, linoleum floors and Formica counter tops.
>
>Happy Thanksgiving.
>
>George L

Well stated George.

Lou

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 24/11/2011 1:06 AM, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
>> On Nov 23, 9:58 pm, Dave > wrote:
>>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>>> Thank goodness we did turkey day last month. That gives us a longer
>>> respite between my least favourite poultry dinner. But all the other
>>> stuff is good.
>>
>>>
>>>
>> You don't like turkey? Why not, too dry, too much of it leftover you
>> have to finish?
>
> I don't hate it. It is not my favourite fowl. Then there are the
> leftovers. I could eat leftover chicken every day for a week or two,
> but I tire of leftover turkey much faster.

That's simple. Get a smaller turkey.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:19:41 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 24/11/2011 1:06 AM, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
> > On Nov 23, 9:58 pm, Dave > wrote:
> >> Happy Thanksgiving.
> >> Thank goodness we did turkey day last month. That gives us a longer
> >> respite between my least favourite poultry dinner. But all the other
> >> stuff is good.
> >
> >>
> >>
> > You don't like turkey? Why not, too dry, too much of it leftover you
> > have to finish?
>
> I don't hate it. It is not my favourite fowl. Then there are the
> leftovers. I could eat leftover chicken every day for a week or two, but
> I tire of leftover turkey much faster.

I buy as small a bird as possible, have one or two turkey sandwiches
and invite the kids over for turkey Tetrazzini which pretty much takes
care of the leftovers.

Pulled Chicken Sandwiches (I'm trying this with leftover turkey)
http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/p...ken-sandwiches


2 cups cider vinegar
1 1/2 cups water
1 cup dry white wine
1/3 cup vegetable oil
3 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
2 tablespoons dry mustard
1 tablespoon sweet paprika
2 teaspoons kosher salt
1 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper
One 3 1/2-pound rotisserie chicken
4 hamburger buns, split
1 cup prepared coleslaw

In a medium saucepan, combine the cider vinegar with the water, white
wine, vegetable oil, Worcestershire sauce, dry mustard, sweet paprika,
salt, black pepper and cayenne pepper and boil over high heat until
reduced to 1 1/4 cups, about 15 minutes. Remove the warm vinegar sauce
from the heat.


Meanwhile, remove all of the meat from the chicken and shred it.
Discard the skin. Add the chicken to the warm vinegar sauce and heat
through, stirring gently. Pile the pulled chicken on the buns and
drizzle with extra vinegar sauce. Top with the coleslaw, close the
sandwiches and serve right away.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:09:49 -0600, Ema Nymton >
wrote:

>On 11/24/2011 10:54 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> George, I didn't buy this house. I inherited it. Trust me, if I
>> bought a house it certainly wouldn't be one with restrictive rules and
>> a geezers in golf pants in the back yard.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Haha, we see these geezers every day, including today. There is one old
>guy, who uses two golf clubs, as walking sticks, in order to make it to
>the green. I guess he doesn't want to use a walker because it would
>make him look old.

That old geezer is probably always around hoping to get a good peep at
you.

On 24/11/2011 2:14 PM, A.Nonny.Mouse wrote:

>>> You don't like turkey? Why not, too dry, too much of it leftover you
>>> have to finish?
>>
>> I don't hate it. It is not my favourite fowl. Then there are the
>> leftovers. I could eat leftover chicken every day for a week or two,
>> but I tire of leftover turkey much faster.
>
> That's simple. Get a smaller turkey.
>

I usually do get small turkeys, but turkeys are big birds, so even a
small turkey is a lot of meat for a small crowd. When you have a larger
crowd you need to make sure to have enough for all.

On Nov 24, 6:02*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>
> . com...
>
> > Happy Thanksgiving.
> > Thank goodness we did turkey day last month. That gives us a longer
> > respite between my least favourite poultry dinner. But all the other stuff
> > is good.
>
> I hear ya! *I am not a fan of turkey. *They are offering a Thanksgiving
> buffet at the club. *Of course it includes turkey and the usual trimmings.
> But the buffet also includes local seafood (crab & shrimp) and prime rib!
> Now we're talking
>
> Jill

Nice- go stuff yourself!

"Over the river and through the woods...." Time to get over to Grandma's
house for T-Day Dinner.


--
Rik Brown

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On 2011-11-24, notbob > wrote:
> free dinner with all the trimmings. The Catholic church does one on
> T-day and the Presbyterian church on X-day.

DOH! I was wrong. It's the United Methodist church that does the
Xmas day dinner. Not that I have the slightest clue as to the diff
between the two, but I thought I should give credit where due, fer all
you Methodists in the group.

Anyway, the meal was good. Not great, but the real deal and nicely
done. They did serve a variation on yams I've never seen and was
seriously impressed. Instead of the same ol' boring candied yam,
brown sugar, and marshmallow schtick, it was a combo of yams and
apples. It may have been they were both canned, canned yams and
canned pie apples, but regardless, it was a new variation I've never
experienced. I really liked it Recipes welcome.

Tell us about any new recipes you may have run across.

nb ....relaxing with bourbon n' water

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/24/2011 12:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Yeah... well the house was built in 1987 and my parents didn't bother
>> with what could be considered upgrades. Sorry, but the kitchen and
>> bathrooms still have the original fixtures including garish wallpaper,
>> linoleum floors and formica counter tops. I'm not impressed with the
>> Grand Scheme of Things.
>
>
> I'm sorry, Jill.... I just can't seem to find much sympathy for someone
> who inherits a house. In this economy, that is a financial windfall that
> most people will never experience and your complaining about the HOA,
> decor and location comes across as petty whining.
>
(snippage)


I'm sorry if it sounds petty, but this house isn't exactly "free". Forget
about the HOA for a moment. I don't much care about the asthetics such as
kitchen upgrades. Formica countertops and linoleum floors don't bother me.

Instead, think about property taxes. Think about homeowners insurance (with
a flood insurance rider) and wind and hail coverage (this is a hurricane
zone). Think about the cost of repairing or replacing appliances. When I
was renting, those things were included in the cost of rent. In 2010 it
cost me nearly $10,000 to put in a new HVAC unit. When the same thing
happened at my Memphis apartment I called and they sent someone over
immediately. And gee, they replaced it! Same thing happened when the
dishwasher broke and also the water heater. Oh, and when my refrigerator
died. Not to mention I didn't have to mow the lawn and keep the shrubs
trimmed. I have to pay for all this stuff now. There's nothing free about
owning a house.

What benefits do I derive from being a "member"? Well sure, I can eat at
the club. Big whup. Nothing else about this membership benefits me in the
least. I don't play golf or tennis. And unless I've suddenly stepped back
into the 1930's I don't know anyone who plays croquet. Sorry if you don't
like it but being forced to pay for something that really doesn't benefit me
****es me off.

Jill

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/24/2011 9:11 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Maybe not, nb, but I didn't have a choice. It's also a "use it or lose
>> it" situation. I have to eat $XXX worth of meals at their "club".
>> Otherwise I'll have prepaid for food I never ate. I'd hardly call that a
>> good idea. I call it an HOA ripoff.
>>
>> Jill
>
> We had similar rules where I used to live. My problem was, the golf
> course and swimming pools were closed on Monday, and that was my day off.
>
> Becca


That sucks! And now that you mention it the golf course is closed here on
Monday, too! What's up with that?

Jill

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:11:42 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2011-11-24, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>>> buffet at the club. Of course it includes turkey and the usual
>>>> trimmings.
>>>> But the buffet also includes local seafood (crab & shrimp) and prime
>>>> rib!
>>>> Now we're talking
>>>
>>> So, maybe joining that club is not such a bad idea, after all.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>>
>>Maybe not, nb, but I didn't have a choice. It's also a "use it or lose
>>it"
>>situation. I have to eat $XXX worth of meals at their "club". Otherwise
>>I'll have prepaid for food I never ate. I'd hardly call that a good idea.
>>I call it an HOA ripoff.
>
> Does that $XXX worth include your bar tab, just asking.
> Is their food good? How are their prices? Can you post a menu?

I wouldn't be surprised if they excluded alcoholic beverages. We wouldn't
want the geezers crashing their golf carts into pine trees on the drive home


Here's the menu (scroll down to the links) they present on the public web
site. (It's not the same link as I got as a member but hey, I couldn't give
it to you unless you have a secret decoder ring.)

http://www.dataw.org/amenities/clubhouse/

> Maybe it's a nice place to eat at their bar and socialize.

That's the point. I don't want to socialize with these people.

I ate there years ago, back when I was visiting my parents rather than
changing their diapers and arranging for their medical care. It was
unimpressive then and I'm not sure I'd be impressed now. But hey, happy
Thanksgiving!

Jill

On 11/24/2011 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Instead, think about property taxes. Think about homeowners insurance
> (with a flood insurance rider) and wind and hail coverage (this is a
> hurricane zone). Think about the cost of repairing or replacing
> appliances. When I was renting, those things were included in the cost
> of rent. In 2010 it cost me nearly $10,000 to put in a new HVAC unit.
> When the same thing happened at my Memphis apartment I called and they
> sent someone over immediately. And gee, they replaced it! Same thing
> happened when the dishwasher broke and also the water heater. Oh, and
> when my refrigerator died. Not to mention I didn't have to mow the lawn
> and keep the shrubs trimmed. I have to pay for all this stuff now.
> There's nothing free about owning a house.

Poor Jill! I didn't know you had it so rough!

Let me clue you in to two facts.

1) Everybody who owns a home has all those expenses.... except.. THEY
ALSO HAVE A MORTGAGE. You don't. (PS - in the last 5 years, we
replaced the AC, water heater, stove top and dishwasher in this house...
all the while paying for insurance, taxes and a MORTGAGE.)

2) If you don't like owning a home and prefer living in an apartment,
you can sell the house.

I took a look at where you live based on the link you posted in another
reply: http://datawhomes.com/ and it seems that the average home in
your community is selling for around $400,000. Poor Jill! I don't know
how you can stand inheriting a home like that. Sell it and you can live
in a $1000 a month Memphis apartment for 400 months... or a little over
33 years.

KWITCHERBITCHIN. And that will be my last comment about that... but
thanks for the discussion. I've learned a whole lot about you and how
you look at the world... and that is always interesting.

George L

On 2011-11-24, Christine Dabney > wrote:

> I am doing something similar this year, only it is a sweet potato and
> cooked quince gratin. The quinces are in the same family as
> apples..and they taste wonderful cooked. I cooked the quince for
> about an hour and a half in a sugar syrup and then let them cool
> overnight in the fridge. They are now layered with the sweet potato
> slices, and I will pour in some vegetable broth soon and put them into
> the oven to roast until they caramelize a bit.
>
> I don't know if this was like anything you had.

Like I said, I think mine were canned. I'm intrigued by yer
quince/yam combo. I've heard of a quince, but have absolutely no
experience with them. According to wiki, some bizarre fruit from the
wilds of the far flung NE, like Maine has anything other than maple
syrup and lobsters to contribute. Who knew!? Give us a review.

nb

On Nov 24, 12:00*pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
>
> ...> On 11/24/2011 10:54 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >> George, I didn't buy this house. *I inherited it. *Trust me, if I bought
> >> a house it certainly wouldn't be one with restrictive rules and a
> >> geezers in golf pants in the back yard.
>
> > We have a golf course in our backyard and I completely understand about
> > the geezers. *While it is very pretty, living on a golf course gives you
> > no privacy at all.
>
> No privacy whatsoever. *I'm not even allowed to put up a fence.
>
> > (PS - we are moving in a few weeks but not for that reason)
>
> > That is pretty cool inheriting a house.
>
> Sorry, but I don't think it's cool. *It was very generous of my mother to
> leave me the house. *But this is the last place I'd have chosen to live..
>
> > *FWIW.... having to join a HOA even with restrictive rules to inherit a
> > house seems like a small price to pay in the Grand Scheme of Things.
>
> > George L
>
> Yeah... well the house was built in 1987 and my parents didn't bother with
> what could be considered upgrades. *Sorry, but the kitchen and bathrooms
> still have the original fixtures including garish wallpaper, linoleum floors
> and formica counter tops. *I'm not impressed with the Grand Scheme of
> Things.
>
> As fast as the HOA goes, I don't react well to people telling me how I have
> to live my life, especially not when I have to pay them to tell me how to
> live it.

This is a shitty time to *have to* sell a house, but not if you can
sell it and buy
another, also at depressed price.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/24/2011 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Instead, think about property taxes. Think about homeowners insurance
>> (with a flood insurance rider) and wind and hail coverage (this is a
>> hurricane zone). Think about the cost of repairing or replacing
>> appliances. When I was renting, those things were included in the cost
>> of rent. In 2010 it cost me nearly $10,000 to put in a new HVAC unit.
>> When the same thing happened at my Memphis apartment I called and they
>> sent someone over immediately. And gee, they replaced it! Same thing
>> happened when the dishwasher broke and also the water heater. Oh, and
>> when my refrigerator died. Not to mention I didn't have to mow the lawn
>> and keep the shrubs trimmed. I have to pay for all this stuff now.
>> There's nothing free about owning a house.
>
> Poor Jill! I didn't know you had it so rough!
>
> Let me clue you in to two facts.
>
> 1) Everybody who owns a home has all those expenses.... except.. THEY ALSO
> HAVE A MORTGAGE. You don't. (PS - in the last 5 years, we replaced the
> AC, water heater, stove top and dishwasher in this house... all the while
> paying for insurance, taxes and a MORTGAGE.)
>
But see, I didn't want to own a home. I never asked for this. You chose to
buy a home and you did so with open eyes. So sorry if it doesn't agree with
you.

> 2) If you don't like owning a home and prefer living in an apartment, you
> can sell the house.
>
Oh good! In this market, that's a great idea.

> I took a look at where you live based on the link you posted in another
> reply: http://datawhomes.com/ and it seems that the average home in
> your community is selling for around $400,000. Poor Jill! I don't know
> how you can stand inheriting a home like that. Sell it and you can live
> in a $1000 a month Memphis apartment for 400 months... or a little over 33
> years.

I hate to tell you this, but based on the fact that most of the houses here
have been on the market for about 4 years, they're way overpriced.
Meanwhile, golfers are dropping like flies. And having been raised a
military brat, I really have no desire to ever move again. I just want
those HOA people to leave me the hell alone.

Jill

Jill wrote:

> I just want those HOA people to leave me the hell alone.

The best way to make that happen is to sell the house, even if you only get
a quarter of what you think it's worth. (There are alternatives, of course,
but you don't have the stomach for them.)

Really, there is NOTHING holding you there but your own inertia and
laziness.

Bob

jmcquown wrote:
>
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2011-11-24, jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> buffet at the club. Of course it includes turkey and the usual
>>> trimmings.
>>> But the buffet also includes local seafood (crab & shrimp) and prime
>>> rib!
>>> Now we're talking
>>
>> So, maybe joining that club is not such a bad idea, after all.
>>
>> nb
>
>
> Maybe not, nb, but I didn't have a choice. It's also a "use it or
> lose it" situation. I have to eat $XXX worth of meals at their
> "club". Otherwise I'll have prepaid for food I never ate. I'd hardly
> call that a good idea. I call it an HOA ripoff.
>
> Jill
So move and quit bitching!

-H

On 24 Nov 2011 23:50:33 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2011-11-24, notbob > wrote:
>> free dinner with all the trimmings. The Catholic church does one on
>> T-day and the Presbyterian church on X-day.
>
>DOH! I was wrong. It's the United Methodist church that does the
>Xmas day dinner. Not that I have the slightest clue as to the diff
>between the two, but I thought I should give credit where due, fer all
>you Methodists in the group.
>
>Anyway, the meal was good. Not great, but the real deal and nicely
>done. They did serve a variation on yams I've never seen and was
>seriously impressed. Instead of the same ol' boring candied yam,
>brown sugar, and marshmallow schtick, it was a combo of yams and
>apples. It may have been they were both canned, canned yams and
>canned pie apples, but regardless, it was a new variation I've never
>experienced. I really liked it Recipes welcome.
>
>Tell us about any new recipes you may have run across.
>
>nb ....relaxing with bourbon n' water
>
>
>
>
>


Here is a recipe I have had for years. Maybe a starting place.




* Exported from MasterCook *

Sweet Potatoes and Apples

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Vegetables

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
6 large apples
5 medium sweet potato
1 cup hot water
1/2 cup butter
1 cup sugar

Boil potatoes and cut into thick slices. Core apples and cut
into thick slices. Place layer of potatoes in a greased casserole,
dot with butter, sprinkle with sugar and add layer of apples. Repeat.
Pour hot water on all. Bake for 30 minutes at 375°.



- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- -

Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 460 Calories; 16g Fat (30.5%
calories from fat); 2g Protein; 81g Carbohydrate; 7g Dietary Fiber;
41mg Cholesterol; 172mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1 1/2 Grain(Starch); 1 1/2
Fruit; 3 Fat; 2 Other Carbohydrates.


Nutr. Assoc. : 0 0 0 0 0

--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On 25/11/2011 9:10 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>

>> Why not in this market, did you buy the house....no it was left to
>> you...sell the ****ing thing!
>
>
> First of all, unless George was looking up waterfront homes, $400,000 is
> not what houses here are selling for. Oh, I'm sure the two realtors
> authorized to sell houses on this island would like everyone to believe
> that. There is a beautifully appointed house next door that has been on
> the market for four (now going on 5) years. It's listed for $320,000.
> Given the fact that it's still sitting there empty. I've never even seen
> the realtors show the house to anyone, and I know both of them) the
> house is probably over-priced. (I know what the assessed value of my
> house is and it's nowhere near that figure.)


If I had a house left to me and didn't want to live there, but didn't
want to dump the place for a lot less than I might get, I would hold on.
You never know. My wife inherited her mother's share of some family
property and one of her cousins was desperate to sell at a time when
prices were low. They ended up selling it but my BiL was able to work a
deal where he got to keep his share in partnership with purchaser.
Unfortunately, BiL died before the property was sold for development and
his wacko ex wife reaped the benefits of his patience. While my wife got
about $50,000 for her 1/9 share of the property, the ex SiL got over $1
million.


Then there is my firend <?> Cheap Bob who went looking to start his
real estate empire in a small town in Nova Scotia. Bob doesn`t like to
spend money and he figured property would be cheap there. He bragged to
me about buying a $95,000 house for $68,000. I tried to tell him if he
paid $68 K for it, that is what is worth, but he was certain that since
it had been on the market for $95K, that is what it was worth. It had
been on the market for more than 4 years and no one paid that much for it.