Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.

The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped for
a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for the twoof us came to
$17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
$3.50

I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I put
a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you need
change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a little later
with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.

So. . . . . . Instead of getting a $3.50 tip, she got the two singles and
some coins. The place was busy and she disappeared. I did not feel
responsible to wait around and chase her for more change, but she would have
had more in her pocket at the end of the night. I thought a good
waiter/waitress always made sure the customer had enough bills to leave a
tip. I did not feel it worth $5 to bring a sandwich and soda.

On 7/23/2011 11:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>
> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped
> for a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for the twoof us
> came to $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate tip would be about
> $3.00 to $3.50
>
> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I
> put a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you
> need change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a
> little later with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>
> So. . . . . . Instead of getting a $3.50 tip, she got the two singles
> and some coins. The place was busy and she disappeared. I did not feel
> responsible to wait around and chase her for more change, but she would
> have had more in her pocket at the end of the night. I thought a good
> waiter/waitress always made sure the customer had enough bills to leave
> a tip. I did not feel it worth $5 to bring a sandwich and soda.

Yep, she'd've been better off tip-wise if she'd returned five $1-bills
instead of a single $5-bill! I've experienced similar situations also.
She must've been a new waitress perhaps ?

Sky

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On 2011-07-24, Sky > wrote:

> She must've been a new waitress perhaps ?

A gamble or jes plain stupid? Hard to tell. BTDT. Maybe she'll
learn.

nb

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>
> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped
> for a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for the twoof us came
> to $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
> $3.50
>
> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I
> put a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you
> need change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a
> little later with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>
> So. . . . . . Instead of getting a $3.50 tip, she got the two singles
> and some coins. The place was busy and she disappeared. I did not feel
> responsible to wait around and chase her for more change, but she would
> have had more in her pocket at the end of the night. I thought a good
> waiter/waitress always made sure the customer had enough bills to leave a
> tip. I did not feel it worth $5 to bring a sandwich and soda.

Sounds to me like she just assumed you would give her the $5. I try to
always keep several ones and fives with me in case we eat out.

On 7/24/2011 12:51 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Ed > wrote

>> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>>
>> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped
>> for a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for the twoof us came
>> to $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
>> $3.50
>>
>> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I
>> put a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you
>> need change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a
>> little later with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.

> Sounds to me like she just assumed you would give her the $5. I try to
> always keep several ones and fives with me in case we eat out.

She was probably hoping for the five since she seemed to think there
was a good chance she'd be getting a $6.37 tip. I suppose some people
might just leave the $25 for convenience's sake but that's a heck of a
tip, 34%?

nancy

"Nancy Young" <email@replyto> wrote in message
.com...
> On 7/24/2011 12:51 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Ed > wrote
>
>>> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>>>
>>> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped
>>> for a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for the twoof us
>>> came
>>> to $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate tip would be about $3.00
>>> to
>>> $3.50
>>>
>>> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I
>>> put a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you
>>> need change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a
>>> little later with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>
>> Sounds to me like she just assumed you would give her the $5. I try to
>> always keep several ones and fives with me in case we eat out.
>
> She was probably hoping for the five since she seemed to think there
> was a good chance she'd be getting a $6.37 tip. I suppose some people
> might just leave the $25 for convenience's sake but that's a heck of a
> tip, 34%?
>
> nancy

I've tipped 50%, or more, but that was for a cup of coffee. I'd never tip
that much for a full meal.

On 7/24/2011 8:24 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" <email@replyto> wrote in message

>> She was probably hoping for the five since she seemed to think there
>> was a good chance she'd be getting a $6.37 tip. I suppose some people
>> might just leave the $25 for convenience's sake but that's a heck of a
>> tip, 34%?

> I've tipped 50%, or more, but that was for a cup of coffee. I'd never
> tip that much for a full meal.

It would have to be something special, not for your everyday
service. If I go out with friends and we tie up a table all
evening, I try to leave extra, for instance.

Breakfast might be the exception in some cases, as you say. This
place in NH where we'd stay has a restaurant. Breakfast was maybe
$3.25. The waitress would be running back and forth with the
bacon, the eggs and toast, the coffee with refills, the juice.
I'm not leaving $1.25 tip for two.

nancy

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:21:51 -0400, Nancy Young <email@replyto> wrote:

>On 7/24/2011 12:51 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Ed > wrote
>
>>> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>>>
>>> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped
>>> for a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for the twoof us came
>>> to $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
>>> $3.50
>>>
>>> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I
>>> put a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you
>>> need change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a
>>> little later with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>
>> Sounds to me like she just assumed you would give her the $5. I try to
>> always keep several ones and fives with me in case we eat out.
>
>She was probably hoping for the five since she seemed to think there
>was a good chance she'd be getting a $6.37 tip. I suppose some people
>might just leave the $25 for convenience's sake but that's a heck of a
>tip, 34%?

You're completely off base... a server would not look inside the
folder until out of sight of the patron. Servers do not ask about
wanting change back when there's a folder.

On 7/24/2011 9:58 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:21:51 -0400, Nancy Young<email@replyto> wrote:

>> She was probably hoping for the five since she seemed to think there
>> was a good chance she'd be getting a $6.37 tip. I suppose some people
>> might just leave the $25 for convenience's sake but that's a heck of a
>> tip, 34%?
>
> You're completely off base... a server would not look inside the
> folder until out of sight of the patron. Servers do not ask about
> wanting change back when there's a folder.

So how'd she know it wasn't a credit card in there?

nancy

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:05:08 -0400, Nancy Young <email@replyto> wrote:

>On 7/24/2011 9:58 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:21:51 -0400, Nancy Young<email@replyto> wrote:
>
>>> She was probably hoping for the five since she seemed to think there
>>> was a good chance she'd be getting a $6.37 tip. I suppose some people
>>> might just leave the $25 for convenience's sake but that's a heck of a
>>> tip, 34%?
>>
>> You're completely off base... a server would not look inside the
>> folder until out of sight of the patron. Servers do not ask about
>> wanting change back when there's a folder.
>
>So how'd she know it wasn't a credit card in there?

She wouldn't, but so what? She'd find out at the cashier station, and
then bring the plastic back with the imprinted slip to be signed.
There'd be no need for change because there's a place on the slip to
write in the tip. But still when I pay with plastic I tip the server
in cash, in their hand... I never ever leave cash on the table and
walk away. And I don't patronize restaurants that insist on including
the tip... how much I tip is between me and the person serving me and
nobody else. It's very rare that I pay a restaurant tab with plastic
anyway, I'm a green money kinda guy. When I go out with other people
that I don't really know, just acquaintences or friends of somebody's
friend, and someone tries to collect cash and put the entire tab on
their plastic I don't participate, why should I give them my cash so
they can pocket it and put the tab on their corporate card. I carry
my own cash and I pay my own bills. When I do go out with my few real
friends we take turns treating, there is no divvying tabs.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:58:23 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> Servers do not ask about
> wanting change back when there's a folder.

Yes they do and often enough that I think it's a downright rude trend.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:21:51 -0400, Nancy Young <email@replyto> wrote:
>
>> On 7/24/2011 12:51 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Ed > wrote
>>
>>>> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>>>>
>>>> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we
>>>> stopped for a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for
>>>> the twoof us came to $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate
>>>> tip would be about $3.00 to $3.50
>>>>
>>>> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a
>>>> five. I put a twenty and a five in the check folder. The
>>>> waitress asked "do you need change?" and I replied "yes" She took
>>>> the money and came back a little later with a few coins, a single
>>>> and the $5 bill.
>>
>>> Sounds to me like she just assumed you would give her the $5. I
>>> try to always keep several ones and fives with me in case we eat
>>> out.
>>
>> She was probably hoping for the five since she seemed to think there
>> was a good chance she'd be getting a $6.37 tip. I suppose some
>> people might just leave the $25 for convenience's sake but that's a
>> heck of a tip, 34%?
>
> You're completely off base... a server would not look inside the
> folder until out of sight of the patron. Servers do not ask about
> wanting change back when there's a folder.

I am almost always asked when there is a folder and they do not ever look
inside.

Janet wrote:
>
> I doubt there was a folder; the pay was for a sandwich in a chain.
> For that kind of casual-location small snack here, you'd be given
> the
> bill on a paper slip... maybe, but not always, presented on a plate.
>
> Folders are used for a larger bill for a full meal in a restaurant.
>
> Janet

Ed mentioned the folder in his original post.

Dora

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:03:51 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, Brooklyn1 says...
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:21:51 -0400, Nancy Young <email@replyto> wrote:
>>
>> >On 7/24/2011 12:51 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> "Ed > wrote
>> >
>> >>> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>> >>>
>> >>> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped
>> >>> for a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for the twoof us came
>> >>> to $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
>> >>> $3.50
>> >>>
>> >>> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I
>> >>> put a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you
>> >>> need change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a
>> >>> little later with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>> >
>> >> Sounds to me like she just assumed you would give her the $5. I try to
>> >> always keep several ones and fives with me in case we eat out.
>> >
>> >She was probably hoping for the five since she seemed to think there
>> >was a good chance she'd be getting a $6.37 tip. I suppose some people
>> >might just leave the $25 for convenience's sake but that's a heck of a
>> >tip, 34%?
>>
>> You're completely off base... a server would not look inside the
>> folder until out of sight of the patron. Servers do not ask about
>> wanting change back when there's a folder.
>
> I doubt there was a folder; the pay was for a sandwich in a chain. For
>that kind of casual-location small snack here, you'd be given the bill on
>a paper slip... maybe, but not always, presented on a plate.
>
> Folders are used for a larger bill for a full meal in a restaurant.

Ed said "folder".

Nowadays even puny joints have gone to using folders because so many
pay with plastic and a folder offers more privacy/security.

Janet wrote:
> In article >, Brooklyn1
> says...
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:21:51 -0400, Nancy Young <email@replyto>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/24/2011 12:51 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "Ed > wrote
>>>
>>>>> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we
>>>>> stopped for a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for
>>>>> the twoof us came to $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate
>>>>> tip would be about $3.00 to $3.50
>>>>>
>>>>> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a
>>>>> five. I put a twenty and a five in the check folder. The
>>>>> waitress asked "do you need change?" and I replied "yes" She took
>>>>> the money and came back a little later with a few coins, a single
>>>>> and the $5 bill.
>>>
>>>> Sounds to me like she just assumed you would give her the $5. I
>>>> try to always keep several ones and fives with me in case we eat
>>>> out.
>>>
>>> She was probably hoping for the five since she seemed to think there
>>> was a good chance she'd be getting a $6.37 tip. I suppose some
>>> people might just leave the $25 for convenience's sake but that's a
>>> heck of a tip, 34%?
>>
>> You're completely off base... a server would not look inside the
>> folder until out of sight of the patron. Servers do not ask about
>> wanting change back when there's a folder.
>
> I doubt there was a folder; the pay was for a sandwich in a chain.
> For that kind of casual-location small snack here, you'd be given the
> bill on a paper slip... maybe, but not always, presented on a plate.
>
> Folders are used for a larger bill for a full meal in a restaurant.

Not here. Some restaurants always use folders. I have never had a bill on
a plate!

Julie Bove wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>>
>> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped
>> for a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for the twoof us came
>> to $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
>> $3.50
>>
>> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I
>> put a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you
>> need change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a
>> little later with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>>
>> So. . . . . . Instead of getting a $3.50 tip, she got the two singles
>> and some coins. The place was busy and she disappeared. I did not feel
>> responsible to wait around and chase her for more change, but she would
>> have had more in her pocket at the end of the night. I thought a good
>> waiter/waitress always made sure the customer had enough bills to leave a
>> tip. I did not feel it worth $5 to bring a sandwich and soda.
>
> Sounds to me like she just assumed you would give her the $5. I try to
> always keep several ones and fives with me in case we eat out.
>
>
I also try to have "perfect change" for restaurants. That also
facilitates leaving if the restaurant is really busy, and the
waiter or waitress doesn't get back to you in a reasonable amount
of time.

--
Jean B.

On Jul 24, 12:51*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>
> > The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped
> > for a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. *The bill for the twoof us came
> > to $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. *An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
> > $3.50
>
> > I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. *I
> > put a twenty and a five in the check folder. *The waitress asked "do you
> > need change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a
> > little later with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>
> > So. . . . . . * Instead of getting a $3.50 tip, she got the two singles
> > and some coins. *The place was busy and she disappeared. I did not feel
> > responsible to wait around and chase her for more change, but she would
> > have had more in her pocket at the end of the night. *I thought a good
> > waiter/waitress always made sure the customer had enough bills to leave a
> > tip. *I did not feel it worth $5 to bring a sandwich and soda.
>
> Sounds to me like she just assumed you would give her the $5. *I try to
> always keep several ones and fives with me in case we eat out.

she wasn't thinking.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:30:01 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote:

> So. . . . . . Instead of getting a $3.50 tip, she got the two singles and
> some coins. The place was busy and she disappeared. I did not feel
> responsible to wait around and chase her for more change, but she would have
> had more in her pocket at the end of the night. I thought a good
> waiter/waitress always made sure the customer had enough bills to leave a
> tip. I did not feel it worth $5 to bring a sandwich and soda.

Either she's a rookie or she will not be a career server. Good
servers who think about their tip make sure the customer has proper
change that can be used for the tip.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 24/07/2011 3:33 AM, sf wrote:

> Either she's a rookie or she will not be a career server. Good
> servers who think about their tip make sure the customer has proper
> change that can be used for the tip.


Servers these days seem to prone to a sense of entitlement and I don't
doubt that many of them intentionally leave larger bills expecting you
to leave a bigger tip. While the old standard was 15% for decent
service. waiters are now telling us that 18% is more appropriate.
Apparently the cost of living has risen so they should get more. Math
was never my forte and I did not study economics at university, but I
know that restaurant prices have risen dramatically, and the same 15% on
top of the cost of their meal is a built in cost of living riser. If
they really believe that stuff it may explain why they are waiting tables.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:30:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>
> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped for
> a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. The bill for the twoof us came to
> $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
> $3.50
>
> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I put
> a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you need
> change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a little later
> with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>
> So. . . . . . Instead of getting a $3.50 tip, she got the two singles and
> some coins. The place was busy and she disappeared. I did not feel
> responsible to wait around and chase her for more change, but she would have
> had more in her pocket at the end of the night. I thought a good
> waiter/waitress always made sure the customer had enough bills to leave a
> tip.

i agree, and i think most savvy waiters/waitresses do.

your pal,
blake

On Jul 23, 11:30*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>
> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped for
> a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. *The bill for the twoof us came to
> $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. *An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
> $3.50
>
> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. *I put
> a twenty and a five in the check folder. *The waitress asked "do you need
> change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a little later
> with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
....

You should have specified "Yes please, but not for the $20, just five
$1's for the $5 bill please, for the tip."

See how easy it would have been? ;-)

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" > wrote
>> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I
>> put
>> a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you need
>> change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a little
>> later
>> with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
> ...
>
> You should have specified "Yes please, but not for the $20, just five
> $1's for the $5 bill please, for the tip."
>
> See how easy it would have been? ;-)
>
> John Kuthe...

I've always tried to maximize income and profit whenever possible. I'd be
sure the customer had a selection of bills to tip me properly. There must
be a reason that five was sitting there when the twenty covered the bill.
I have to wonder how many times in a week she misses opportunities to make
more money.

On Jul 24, 11:41*am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> "John Kuthe" > wrote
>
> >> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. *I
> >> put
> >> a twenty and a five in the check folder. *The waitress asked "do you need
> >> change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a little
> >> later
> >> with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
> > ...
>
> > You should have specified "Yes please, but not for the $20, just five
> > $1's for the $5 bill please, for the tip."
>
> > See how easy it would have been? ;-)
>
> > John Kuthe...
>
> I've always tried to maximize income and profit whenever possible. *I'd be
> sure the customer had a selection of bills to tip me properly. *There must
> be a reason that five was sitting there when the twenty covered the bill.
> I have to wonder how many times in a week she misses opportunities to make
> more money.

By specifically asking for the five ones, you'd be subtly and almost
effortlessly helping educate the server how to give better service,
and maximizing your ability to more finely reward the service given
via tipping to the dollar exactly what you wish to tip. Seems like
upsides all around to me!

John Kuthe...

On Jul 24, 1:12*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Jul 24, 11:41*am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > "John Kuthe" > wrote
>
> > >> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. *I
> > >> put
> > >> a twenty and a five in the check folder. *The waitress asked "do you need
> > >> change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a little
> > >> later
> > >> with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
> > > ...
>
> > > You should have specified "Yes please, but not for the $20, just five
> > > $1's for the $5 bill please, for the tip."
>
> > > See how easy it would have been? ;-)
>
> > > John Kuthe...
>
> > I've always tried to maximize income and profit whenever possible. *I'd be
> > sure the customer had a selection of bills to tip me properly. *There must
> > be a reason that five was sitting there when the twenty covered the bill.
> > I have to wonder how many times in a week she misses opportunities to make
> > more money.
>
> By specifically asking for the five ones, you'd be subtly and almost
> effortlessly helping educate the server how to give better service,
> and maximizing your ability to more finely reward the service given
> via tipping to the dollar exactly what you wish to tip. Seems like
> upsides all around to me!
>
> John Kuthe...

but it's not his job to educate her about how to do her job. It's her
manager's.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:41:12 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> wrote:

>
>"John Kuthe" > wrote
>>> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. I
>>> put
>>> a twenty and a five in the check folder. The waitress asked "do you need
>>> change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a little
>>> later
>>> with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>> ...
>>
>> You should have specified "Yes please, but not for the $20, just five
>> $1's for the $5 bill please, for the tip."
>>
>> See how easy it would have been? ;-)
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>I've always tried to maximize income and profit whenever possible. I'd be
>sure the customer had a selection of bills to tip me properly. There must
>be a reason that five was sitting there when the twenty covered the bill.
>I have to wonder how many times in a week she misses opportunities to make
>more money.

Ed, she's a waitress, not a banker. Had you not asked for change most
servers would have assumed the extra five was part of their tip and
returned nothing. It's not up to servers to handle your finances,
they're lowly servers, not CPAs... you didn't ask for change of the
fiver or she'd have gladly done you that favor. Anyways, you ate with
your wife... doesn't she carry any cash... if your wife who knows you
for most of your life didn't think to lend you two bucks why would you
assume a waitress who doesn't know you from a hole in the wall would
know what you're thinking... the server was more likely to assume that
your wife would kick in a couple of bucks to cover the tip. A lot of
folks would have left a $5 tip for that tab, I would have, especially
if it's a local Friendly's that I'm apt to patronize regularly. I tip
very generously at those places I frequent on a regular basis. However
if I'm at a place where the service really stinks I don't tip at all,
but I know I will never return.

On Jul 24, 12:30*am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>
> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped for
> a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. *The bill for the twoof us came to
> $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. *An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
> $3.50
>
> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. *I put
> a twenty and a five in the check folder. *The waitress asked "do you need
> change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a little later
> with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>
> So. . . . . . * Instead of getting a $3.50 tip, she got the two singles and
> some coins. *The place was busy and she disappeared. I did not feel
> responsible to wait around and chase her for more change, but she would have
> had more in her pocket at the end of the night. *I thought a good
> waiter/waitress always made sure the customer had enough bills to leave a
> tip. *I did not feel it worth $5 to bring a sandwich and soda.

When I was a cashier back in the days before the Flood, I always
returned a passel of ones as the change. Started the night with 200
dollars in ones, fresh from the bank, dipped edges in sparkling water
to ripple them a bit (old bartender's trick they showed me).

I recently ate out in two places, added tips to the bill, paid by
credit card, but the tips didn't get billed. Fortunately, the
waiters' names were on the ticket, so I mailed them checks with a
note. Something in their procedure needs to be changed - I hope too
to have restored their faith in the 'stiffing' public. I am sure I
got cursed those nights.

hotel tipping? that's a whole new topic. Anyone care to discuss? New
thread?

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:52:03 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia wrote:

> I recently ate out in two places, added tips to the bill, paid by
> credit card, but the tips didn't get billed. Fortunately, the
> waiters' names were on the ticket, so I mailed them checks with a
> note. Something in their procedure needs to be changed - I hope too
> to have restored their faith in the 'stiffing' public. I am sure I
> got cursed those nights.

i rarely pay by credit card, but when i do i leave the tip in cash. that
way the waiter gets his mitts on it right away.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:59:53 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

> i rarely pay by credit card, but when i do i leave the tip in cash. that
> way the waiter gets his mitts on it right away.

That's what I do too... when I have the cash. Sometimes my only money
is plastic.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:38:52 -0700, sf wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:59:53 -0400, blake murphy
> > wrote:
>
>> i rarely pay by credit card, but when i do i leave the tip in cash. that
>> way the waiter gets his mitts on it right away.
>
> That's what I do too... when I have the cash. Sometimes my only money
> is plastic.

i try never to be in that situation.

your pal,
blake

On Jul 24, 12:30*am, "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote:
> Some wait staff make it difficult to tip them.
>
> The other night my wife and I were out doing a few errands so we stopped for
> a sandwich at a chain type restaurant. *The bill for the twoof us came to
> $17.50 plus tax, or $18.63. *An appropriate tip would be about $3.00 to
> $3.50
>
> I reached in my pocked and had some twentys, two singles and a five. *I put
> a twenty and a five in the check folder. *The waitress asked "do you need
> change?" and I replied "yes" She took the money and came back a little later
> with a few coins, a single and the $5 bill.
>
> So. . . . . . * Instead of getting a $3.50 tip, she got the two singles and
> some coins. *The place was busy and she disappeared. I did not feel
> responsible to wait around and chase her for more change, but she would have
> had more in her pocket at the end of the night. *I thought a good
> waiter/waitress always made sure the customer had enough bills to leave a
> tip. *I did not feel it worth $5 to bring a sandwich and soda.

I think maybe she's just stupid. She wasn't even thinking about the
tip. She wasn't thinking.