sf wrote:

>>> You were a spoiled brat then. When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
>>> there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
>>> parlors to be had where I lived.
>>
>> Where did you live, that there wasn't even a Pizza Hut around?
>>
> You have to be kidding.

No, I wasn't kidding. Where did you live when you were introduced to boxed
pizzas?

Bob

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:22:28 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:16:48 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>> > You were a spoiled brat then. When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
>> > there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
>> > parlors to be had where I lived.
>>
>> Where did you live, that there wasn't even a Pizza Hut around?
>>
>You have to be kidding.

The closest pizza hut here is 15 miles down the road... there is no
way I can get it home other than cold, and even eaten there it's not
very good, certainly not worth $12 for pizza for one... last time I
had to wait 45 minutes to be served by some unhappy ****, and she
brought the wrong toppings. For the past couple three years I no
longer go to any pizzarias, their product has greatly deteriorated but
their prices have risen astronomically. So, I keep an assortment of
frozen pizza, can't beat the convenience and these days it's improved
so that it's better than pizzaria pie. I happen to prefer the rising
crust versions... and I can add whatevr extra toppings I want and I
can cook it to the exact doneness I prefer (I like well done/"high
brown"), but the best part is I can decide on pizza at any time day or
night and be eating in 45 minutes from lighting my oven, and I get to
eat it piping hot. I think Di Giorno and Freschetta are the best.
They're almost always on sale for about $6 and if you go to their web
sites you can print out $1 off coupons... best $5 pizza on the planet.
About the only improvements I make is to add some coarse ground black
pepper, a few pinches of Penzeys Italian herb blend, and some grated
parm... last time I remembered I had a hunk of smoked provolone so
grated on a pile of that, scrumptious. And there are so many choices
of crust styles and toppings that it definitely doesn't pay to make
ones own from scratch anymore unless you can't think of a better way
to entertain rugrats... the days of cardboard frozen pizza are long
gone. And another thing I like about frozen pizza is that it's
machine made, *robotically*, hermetically sealed in plastic and boxed,
not handled by unwashed crotch picking pimply faced illegal alien
mental defectives.

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:16:48 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>
>> You were a spoiled brat then. When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
>> there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
>> parlors to be had where I lived.
>
>Where did you live, that there wasn't even a Pizza Hut around?
>
>Bob
>
Pizza Hut didn't show as a new-born chain until the late '60s. My
neighbor knew the brothers from back home and came out here to open a
PH and became very, very wealthy by ever expanding.
Box pizza was at least 15 years earlier. No pizza joints in towns
across the US. You had to go to the big cities to find Italian and
Chinese restaurants. Then Kresge (sp? a 5 and dime) got into the act
and sold pizza by the slice. They put it up there one slice at a time
in the case just like they displayed pie.
Janet US

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> > wrote:
>
>> My God that stuff was awful. It was fun to help my mother make when I
>> was a kid, but it was never very fun to eat. The crust turned out
>> worse than any of the cardboardy frozen pizzas
>
> You were a spoiled brat then. When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
> there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
> parlors to be had where I lived.

But that doesn't mean it was good!

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:25:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> My God that stuff was awful. It was fun to help my mother make when I
> >> was a kid, but it was never very fun to eat. The crust turned out
> >> worse than any of the cardboardy frozen pizzas
> >
> > You were a spoiled brat then. When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
> > there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
> > parlors to be had where I lived.
>
> But that doesn't mean it was good!
>
You don't like anything anyway. I, on the other hand, didn't know
what real pizza tasted like and since I didn't have anything to
compare it to - I thought that boxed pizza was good. It was easy to
make and that was a plus too. Once I had a choice - I didn't go back
to boxed. but it wasn't because I hated boxed - it was because
ordering pizza was easier.

Since we're talking about it, I think I'll buy a box and try it again.
I haven't seen it on the shelves in decades; but I haven't looked for
it. <shrug>

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:25:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> My God that stuff was awful. It was fun to help my mother make when I
>> >> was a kid, but it was never very fun to eat. The crust turned out
>> >> worse than any of the cardboardy frozen pizzas
>> >
>> > You were a spoiled brat then. When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
>> > there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
>> > parlors to be had where I lived.
>>
>> But that doesn't mean it was good!
>>
> You don't like anything anyway. I, on the other hand, didn't know
> what real pizza tasted like and since I didn't have anything to
> compare it to - I thought that boxed pizza was good. It was easy to
> make and that was a plus too. Once I had a choice - I didn't go back
> to boxed. but it wasn't because I hated boxed - it was because
> ordering pizza was easier.

I don't like anything? Did you not see my post about beets? I LOVE beets!
And a whole lot of other foods!
>
> Since we're talking about it, I think I'll buy a box and try it again.
> I haven't seen it on the shelves in decades; but I haven't looked for
> it. <shrug>

You go right ahead.

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:36:12 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:25:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> My God that stuff was awful. It was fun to help my mother make when I
>> >> was a kid, but it was never very fun to eat. The crust turned out
>> >> worse than any of the cardboardy frozen pizzas
>> >
>> > You were a spoiled brat then. When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
>> > there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
>> > parlors to be had where I lived.
>>
>> But that doesn't mean it was good!
>>
>You don't like anything anyway. I, on the other hand, didn't know
>what real pizza tasted like and since I didn't have anything to
>compare it to - I thought that boxed pizza was good. It was easy to
>make and that was a plus too. Once I had a choice - I didn't go back
>to boxed. but it wasn't because I hated boxed - it was because
>ordering pizza was easier.
>
>Since we're talking about it, I think I'll buy a box and try it again.
>I haven't seen it on the shelves in decades; but I haven't looked for
>it. <shrug>

How could you miss it, the most freezer space at the market is devoted
to pizza, even more than spuds now.

On Jun 26, 1:09*am, sf > wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>
> > wrote:
> > My God that stuff was awful. *It was fun to help my mother make when I
> > was a kid, but it was never very fun to eat. *The crust turned out
> > worse than any of the cardboardy frozen pizzas
>
> You were a spoiled brat then. *When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
> there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
> parlors to be had where I lived.
>
I didn't say that I complained. I didn't. I just didn't look forward
to pizza. I would have rather had spaghetti, either with meat sauce,
or even better, meatballs. Pork chops, pot roast, steak, hamburgers,
chicken (fried, baked or grilled), fish (as long as it wasn't "jack
salmon," and I didn't even complain or refuse to eat that) all were
better than the pizza kit. As I type this I am eating a Palermo's
Supreme Ultra Thin Crust, to which I added a little shredded parmesan
before baking. http://www.palermospizza.com/primo-thin.aspx
Everything about it is good, but a just-about-as-thin, super yeasty
crust would be even better. I don't think that yeast goes from frozen
to active in the time it takes a pizza to cook.
Considering my overactive sense of smell, I'm not a spoiled brat about
food, and never have been. I've lived on the street in the Winter in
St. Louis, subsisted on two day old unsold cake donuts made by John
Kuthe, and have dumpster dived into a McDonald's dumpster. I was 20
then. I am more "spoiled" now, but I still waste very little food. I
know how it feels to be hungry.

--Bryan

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:47:58 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> wrote:

> On Jun 26, 1:09*am, sf > wrote:
> > On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > My God that stuff was awful. *It was fun to help my mother make when I
> > > was a kid, but it was never very fun to eat. *The crust turned out
> > > worse than any of the cardboardy frozen pizzas
> >
> > You were a spoiled brat then. *When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
> > there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
> > parlors to be had where I lived.
> >
> I didn't say that I complained. I didn't. I just didn't look forward
> to pizza. I would have rather had spaghetti, either with meat sauce,
> or even better, meatballs. Pork chops, pot roast, steak, hamburgers,
> chicken (fried, baked or grilled), fish (as long as it wasn't "jack
> salmon," and I didn't even complain or refuse to eat that) all were
> better than the pizza kit.

Are you trying to say your family made *dinner* out of boxed pizza or
that you wanted your snacks to be dinner-like? It was never dinner at
my house, just a snack.

I will say it in different words for you: When boxed pizza was the
only game in town and I had nothing else to compare it to. It was PDG
and I don't care what your opinion of it is or was.


--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:37:20 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:47:58 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 26, 1:09*am, sf > wrote:
>> > On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > My God that stuff was awful. *It was fun to help my mother make when I
>> > > was a kid, but it was never very fun to eat. *The crust turned out
>> > > worse than any of the cardboardy frozen pizzas
>> >
>> > You were a spoiled brat then. *When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
>> > there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
>> > parlors to be had where I lived.
>> >
>> I didn't say that I complained. I didn't. I just didn't look forward
>> to pizza. I would have rather had spaghetti, either with meat sauce,
>> or even better, meatballs. Pork chops, pot roast, steak, hamburgers,
>> chicken (fried, baked or grilled), fish (as long as it wasn't "jack
>> salmon," and I didn't even complain or refuse to eat that) all were
>> better than the pizza kit.
>
>Are you trying to say your family made *dinner* out of boxed pizza or
>that you wanted your snacks to be dinner-like? It was never dinner at
>my house, just a snack.
>
>I will say it in different words for you: When boxed pizza was the
>only game in town and I had nothing else to compare it to. It was PDG
>and I don't care what your opinion of it is or was.

Way back then this was a zillion times better than pizza:
http://toastiterecipes.com/how-to-buy-a-toas-tite/

http://www.cyclingforums.com/forum/t...hould-have-one

On Jul 1, 11:37*am, sf > wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:47:58 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On Jun 26, 1:09 am, sf > wrote:
> > > On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > My God that stuff was awful. It was fun to help my mother make when I
> > > > was a kid, but it was never very fun to eat. The crust turned out
> > > > worse than any of the cardboardy frozen pizzas
>
> > > You were a spoiled brat then. When I was introduced to boxed pizza,
> > > there were no frozen pizzas and certainly no fresh pizza from a pizza
> > > parlors to be had where I lived.
>
> > I didn't say that I complained. *I didn't. *I just didn't look forward
> > to pizza. *I would have rather had spaghetti, either with meat sauce,
> > or even better, meatballs. *Pork chops, pot roast, steak, hamburgers,
> > chicken (fried, baked or grilled), fish (as long as it wasn't "jack
> > salmon," and I didn't even complain or refuse to eat that) all were
> > better than the pizza kit. *
>
> Are you trying to say your family made *dinner* out of boxed pizza or
> that you wanted your snacks to be dinner-like? *It was never dinner at
> my house, just a snack.

It was dinner.
>
> I will say it in different words for you: *When boxed pizza was the
> only game in town and I had nothing else to compare it to. *It was PDG
> and I don't care what your opinion of it is or was.
>
I guess if I'd grown up in Bug Tussle, where Granny's possum stew was
the standard, I might've found boxed pizza PDG too.

--Bryan

On 6/24/2011 5:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Note that I am not recommending this stuff. I have had it. You don't want
> it! But they still make it. I was at Winco foods today and saw the Chef
> Boyardee sauce on the shelf and some other brand I've never heard of, of
> boxed crust mix. I seem to remember that there was a brand called Apian Way
> (sp?) that used to make the boxed stuff. Not sure if they still do. But I
> looked it up and Chef Boyardee still makes it. Here's a link:
>
> http://www.chefboyardee.com/products.jsp
>
>

I used to make box pizza frequently when I was a kid. I thought it was
kind of fun. It was my first experience with making "bread" dough except
that it was a quick bread dough. The "cheese" was dried powdery stuff in
a can - mostly it was salty. It was as much a pizza as canned spaghetti
was pasta. :-)

I haven't made one of those in 40 or so years - who has? OTOH, to this
day I'll grease my baking pan with oil when I make a pizza. I like a
fried crust.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/24/2011 5:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Note that I am not recommending this stuff. I have had it. You don't
>> want
>> it! But they still make it. I was at Winco foods today and saw the Chef
>> Boyardee sauce on the shelf and some other brand I've never heard of, of
>> boxed crust mix. I seem to remember that there was a brand called Apian
>> Way
>> (sp?) that used to make the boxed stuff. Not sure if they still do. But
>> I
>> looked it up and Chef Boyardee still makes it. Here's a link:
>>
>> http://www.chefboyardee.com/products.jsp
>>
>>
>
> I used to make box pizza frequently when I was a kid. I thought it was
> kind of fun. It was my first experience with making "bread" dough except
> that it was a quick bread dough. The "cheese" was dried powdery stuff in a
> can - mostly it was salty. It was as much a pizza as canned spaghetti was
> pasta. :-)
>
> I haven't made one of those in 40 or so years - who has? OTOH, to this day
> I'll grease my baking pan with oil when I make a pizza. I like a fried
> crust.

I don't grease my pan but I do put olive oil on the crust.

On Jun 26, 7:26*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 6/24/2011 5:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> Note that I am not recommending this stuff. *I have had it. *You don't
> >> want
> >> it! *But they still make it. *I was at Winco foods today and saw the Chef
> >> Boyardee sauce on the shelf and some other brand I've never heard of, of
> >> boxed crust mix. *I seem to remember that there was a brand called Apian
> >> Way
> >> (sp?) that used to make the boxed stuff. *Not sure if they still do. *But
> >> I
> >> looked it up and Chef Boyardee still makes it. *Here's a link:
>
> >>http://www.chefboyardee.com/products.jsp
>
> > I used to make box pizza frequently when I was a kid. I thought it was
> > kind of fun. It was my first experience with making "bread" dough except
> > that it was a quick bread dough. The "cheese" was dried powdery stuff in a
> > can - mostly it was salty. It was as much a pizza as canned spaghetti was
> > pasta. :-)
>
> > I haven't made one of those in 40 or so years - who has? OTOH, to this day
> > I'll grease my baking pan with oil when I make a pizza. I like a fried
> > crust.
>
> I don't grease my pan but I do put olive oil on the crust.

I put oil in my pizza crust occasionally if I'm in the mood. I used to
cook the pizza on a pan dry with cornmeal but these days I just dump
some oil on the pan, it's just faster and easier I guess.