From today's NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/he...alth.html?_r=1

Tinyurl:

http://tinyurl.com/6d2noox



"If you avoid eggs because you think they’re bad for you, you should
reconsider. It was never clear that dietary cholesterol had a
significant impact on heart health; saturated fat in the diet is thought
to be a bigger culprit (how big is also a matter of dispute these days).
The government’s new dietary guidelines acknowledge as much, advising
that eating an egg every day will not affect blood cholesterol or
cardiovascular health."

Interesting isn't it? Only a couple of years ago it was "moderate
consumption of eggs, perhaps one a week". Of course it's true that the
fat content of egg yolks is not negligible.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm "not"

James Silverton > wrote:

> From today's NY Times: [snip]

>"If you avoid eggs because you think they’re bad for you, you should
>reconsider. It was never clear that dietary cholesterol had a
>significant impact on heart health; saturated fat in the diet is thought
>to be a bigger culprit (how big is also a matter of dispute these days).
>The government’s new dietary guidelines acknowledge as much, advising
>that eating an egg every day will not affect blood cholesterol or
>cardiovascular health."
>
>Interesting isn't it? Only a couple of years ago it was "moderate
>consumption of eggs, perhaps one a week".

I think it was more than a couple. Seems to me the Egg Board's
"bad rap" TV commercials were 15 years ago, and the news was already
out that dietary cholesterol on the level of an egg or two a day
was not raising serum cholesterol.

>Of course it's true that the
>fat content of egg yolks is not negligible.

I've been eating more eggs as part of my low-purine diet.

My latest form of health food: pancakes. I make two large pancakes
from 1 egg, 1/3 cup goat kefir, and 2.5 T of whole wheat flour. (Plus
baking powder/soda and oat bran but those have negligible macronutrients.)
Turns out pancakes are low carb, because there is not actually
all that much flour in them. Goat kefir has 1/3 the carbs of
buttermilk (or cow kefir). Why this is I'm not sure (does goat
milk have less lactose in it?)

Steve

On 3/25/2011 8:20 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> From today's NY Times:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/he...alth.html?_r=1
>
> Tinyurl:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6d2noox
>
>
>
> "If you avoid eggs because you think they’re bad for you, you should
> reconsider. It was never clear that dietary cholesterol had a
> significant impact on heart health; saturated fat in the diet is thought
> to be a bigger culprit (how big is also a matter of dispute these days).
> The government’s new dietary guidelines acknowledge as much, advising
> that eating an egg every day will not affect blood cholesterol or
> cardiovascular health."
>
> Interesting isn't it? Only a couple of years ago it was "moderate
> consumption of eggs, perhaps one a week". Of course it's true that the
> fat content of egg yolks is not negligible.
>

I heard on some TV/radio show today that a single egg has the same
amount of fat as a BK whopper. As I rethink where I heard it, it was a
vegan guest on the Ellen show.

In article >,
Cheryl > wrote:

> On 3/25/2011 8:20 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> > From today's NY Times:
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/he...alth.html?_r=1
> >
> > Tinyurl:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/6d2noox
> >
> >
> >
> > "If you avoid eggs because you think they¹re bad for you, you should
> > reconsider. It was never clear that dietary cholesterol had a
> > significant impact on heart health; saturated fat in the diet is thought
> > to be a bigger culprit (how big is also a matter of dispute these days).
> > The government¹s new dietary guidelines acknowledge as much, advising
> > that eating an egg every day will not affect blood cholesterol or
> > cardiovascular health."
> >
> > Interesting isn't it? Only a couple of years ago it was "moderate
> > consumption of eggs, perhaps one a week". Of course it's true that the
> > fat content of egg yolks is not negligible.
> >
>
> I heard on some TV/radio show today that a single egg has the same
> amount of fat as a BK whopper. As I rethink where I heard it, it was a
> vegan guest on the Ellen show.

A Burger King whopper has, according to the "official" website:

670 calories 11g sat. fat 40g fat 1g trans fat
51g carbs 11g sugar 28g protein 75mg cholesterol
980mg sodium

1 large egg (50g) has

71 calories 2g sat. fat 5g fat 0 trans fat
0.4g carbs 0.4 g sugar 6.3g protein 211mg cholesterol
70mg sodium

That is, the egg has 1/8th the fat of the BK whopper.

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:05:43 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, Michael
Siemon > wrote,
>In article >,
> Cheryl > wrote:

>> I heard on some TV/radio show today that a single egg has the same
>> amount of fat as a BK whopper. As I rethink where I heard it, it was a
>> vegan guest on the Ellen show.
>
>A Burger King whopper has, according to the "official" website:
>
>670 calories 11g sat. fat 40g fat 1g trans fat
>51g carbs 11g sugar 28g protein 75mg cholesterol
>980mg sodium
>
>1 large egg (50g) has
>
>71 calories 2g sat. fat 5g fat 0 trans fat
>0.4g carbs 0.4 g sugar 6.3g protein 211mg cholesterol
>70mg sodium
>
>That is, the egg has 1/8th the fat of the BK whopper.

I expect that 1/8 accuracy is about normal for nutritional
information on TV. Less if vegan.

In article >,
Cheryl > wrote:


> I heard on some TV/radio show today that a single egg has the same
> amount of fat as a BK whopper. As I rethink where I heard it, it was a
> vegan guest on the Ellen show.

I'm skeptical. OK, a Whopper is 40g of fat:

http://www.bk.com/en/us/menu-nutrition/index.html

The USDA database says one large egg is 9.51g of fat.

That's not even close!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On 3/26/2011 12:06 AM, Dan Abel wrote:
> In >,
> > wrote:
>
>
>> I heard on some TV/radio show today that a single egg has the same
>> amount of fat as a BK whopper. As I rethink where I heard it, it was a
>> vegan guest on the Ellen show.
>
> I'm skeptical. OK, a Whopper is 40g of fat:
>
> http://www.bk.com/en/us/menu-nutrition/index.html
>
> The USDA database says one large egg is 9.51g of fat.
>
> That's not even close!
>

As I said, it was a vegan who said it. Nothing against vegans, but there
is an agenda involved.

In article >,
Cheryl > wrote:

> On 3/26/2011 12:06 AM, Dan Abel wrote:
> > In >,
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I heard on some TV/radio show today that a single egg has the same
> >> amount of fat as a BK whopper. As I rethink where I heard it, it was a
> >> vegan guest on the Ellen show.
> >
> > I'm skeptical. OK, a Whopper is 40g of fat:
> >
> > http://www.bk.com/en/us/menu-nutrition/index.html
> >
> > The USDA database says one large egg is 9.51g of fat.
> >
> > That's not even close!
> >
>
> As I said, it was a vegan who said it. Nothing against vegans, but there
> is an agenda involved.

I guess I should admit that I read the wrong column. It's half that (a
little under 5g).

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"James Silverton" > ha scritto nel messaggio

> From today's NY Times:
ttp://tinyurl.com/6d2noox
>
> Interesting isn't it? Only a couple of years ago it was "moderate >
> consumption of eggs, perhaps one a week". Of course it's true that the fat
> content of egg yolks is not negligible.

Sure it's negligible. One egg poached or boiled has 80 calories of which a
lot is protein. I don't even have to look it up to see that the possible
fat at 9 calories per gram is absolutely low. Hundreds of things people eat
are much higher in fat. Even things they think of as healthy are higher.

On 25/03/2011 8:52 PM, HumBug! wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:20:49 -0400, James Silverton
> > wrote:
>
>> From today's NY Times:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/he...alth.html?_r=1
>>
>> Tinyurl:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6d2noox
>>
>>
>>
>> "If you avoid eggs because you think they’re bad for you, you should
>> reconsider. It was never clear that dietary cholesterol had a
>> significant impact on heart health; saturated fat in the diet is thought
>> to be a bigger culprit (how big is also a matter of dispute these days).
>> The government’s new dietary guidelines acknowledge as much, advising
>> that eating an egg every day will not affect blood cholesterol or
>> cardiovascular health."
>>
>> Interesting isn't it? Only a couple of years ago it was "moderate
>> consumption of eggs, perhaps one a week". Of course it's true that the
>> fat content of egg yolks is not negligible.
>
> I ate lots of foods high in cholesterol all my life,
> and never had it checked until I had a severe nosebleed last year.
>
> Blood pressure was way high, but chol. was fine (bad was a little high,
> good a little low), but total was well under 200.
>
> Brought it down to 130 anyway.
>
> Changed my diet to lose weigh, but didn't need to be on statin drugs.
>
>

One of the things that I have learned about cholesterol levels in the
last few months is that there are two different target levels. There is
one level for low risk people.... those who have not had a cardiac
event, and there is another for those at high risk.... those who have
has an event.

My cholesterol level based on results of the blood work I had done when
I went to see my doctor in October were acceptable because, not having
been diagnosed, I was at acceptable levels. Then when it turned out
that I had a blogged coronary artery and ended up with emergency bypass
surgery, I became high risk, so my acceptable levels changed and I was
high.


I have been on cholesterol lowering medication since the surgery and
on a low fat diet. My cholesterol levels have dropped. Now I need to
raise my HDL level.

Seems to me the Egg Board's
"bad rap" TV commercials were 15 years ago, and the news was already
out that dietary cholesterol on the level of an egg or two a day
was not raising serum It was never clear that dietary cholesterol had a
significant impact on heart health; saturated fat in the diet is thought
to be a bigger culprit (how big is also a matter of dispute these days).
The government’s new dietary guidelines acknowledge as much,I ate lots of foods high in cholesterol all my life,
and never had it checked until I had a severe nosebleed last year.