get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
all food.

On Nov 1, 9:33*am, (Michael America) wrote:
> get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
> all food.

Sure they do.

On Nov 1, 12:33*pm, (Michael America) wrote:
> get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
> all food.

Of course they do. They're going to give it away free to everybody.
Hooray!

On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
America) wrote:

>get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
>all food.

Vote the straight libertarian ticket. A pox on both their
houses!!!!

On Nov 1, 8:21*pm, NOYDB <ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
>
> America) wrote:
> >get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
> >all food.
>
> Vote the straight libertarian *ticket. A *pox *on both their
> houses!!!!

I used to be a Libertarian. Then I grew up and realized that
most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Nov 1, 8:21 pm, NOYDB <ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
>>
>> America) wrote:
>>> get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol
>>> of all food.
>>
>> Vote the straight libertarian ticket. A pox on both their
>> houses!!!!
>
> I used to be a Libertarian. Then I grew up and realized that
> most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
> thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.

The tea partiers sound like libertarians to me.

nancy

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 10:42:09 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Nov 1, 8:21 pm, NOYDB <ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
>>>
>>> America) wrote:
>>>> get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol
>>>> of all food.
>>>
>>> Vote the straight libertarian ticket. A pox on both their
>>> houses!!!!
>>
>> I used to be a Libertarian. Then I grew up and realized that
>> most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
>> thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.
>
> The tea partiers sound like libertarians to me.
>
> nancy

they're certainly as stupid and self-centered.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:11:29 -0400, blake murphy
> wrote:

>On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 10:42:09 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Nov 1, 8:21 pm, NOYDB <ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
>>>>
>>>> America) wrote:
>>>>> get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol
>>>>> of all food.
>>>>
>>>> Vote the straight libertarian ticket. A pox on both their
>>>> houses!!!!
>>>
>>> I used to be a Libertarian. Then I grew up and realized that
>>> most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
>>> thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.
>>
>> The tea partiers sound like libertarians to me.
>>
>> nancy
>
>they're certainly as stupid and self-centered.

Yeah, right... anyone who threatens your parasitic/entitlement
lifestyle... you ain't entitled to a cent, you belong isolated from
productive society like in a leper colony. You deserve to writhe on
the ground and starve, playing the system you're a common thief.

On 11/2/2010 9:10 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Nov 1, 8:21 pm, NOYDB<ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
>>
>> America) wrote:
>>> get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
>>> all food.
>>
>> Vote the straight libertarian ticket. A pox on both their
>> houses!!!!
>
> I used to be a Libertarian. Then I grew up and realized that
> most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
> thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.

I vote Libertarian hoping they will get elected and abolish themselves.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

In article
>,
Cindy Hamilton > wrote:

> On Nov 1, 8:21*pm, NOYDB <ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
> >
> > America) wrote:
> > >get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
> > >all food.
> >
> > Vote the straight libertarian *ticket. A *pox *on both their
> > houses!!!!
>
> I used to be a Libertarian. Then I grew up and realized that
> most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
> thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.

Not just stupid, but I think apathy is big, also. Just this morning
someone was boasting about how they weren't going to vote, because they
had just moved to the state. Just moved? How many years ago? Can't
pick up the local paper for a few minutes and see who they are
recommending (or look at their web site if they don't want to pay for
the paper)? They better not start posting here about corrupt local
politicians!

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
>> On Nov 1, 8:21 pm, NOYDB <ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
>> >
>> > America) wrote:
>> > >get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
>> > >all food.
>> >
>> > Vote the straight libertarian ticket. A pox on both their
>> > houses!!!!
>>
>> I used to be a Libertarian. Then I grew up and realized that
>> most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
>> thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.
>
> Not just stupid, but I think apathy is big, also. Just this morning
> someone was boasting about how they weren't going to vote, because they
> had just moved to the state. Just moved? How many years ago? Can't
> pick up the local paper for a few minutes and see who they are
> recommending (or look at their web site if they don't want to pay for
> the paper)? They better not start posting here about corrupt local
> politicians!
>
> --
> Dan Abel
> Petaluma, California USA
>



If you want to talk about me, why not mention me by name? I wasn't
"boasting" about anything. Picking up the local paper doesn't tell me
anything. Have you ever *read* the Beaufort Gazette? Thirty pages about
nothing! And BTW, for two of those years I was rather busy dealing first
with my father who had dementia and didn't even recognize me. Second, my
mother who, when he died was a complete mess (they were married 57 years).
She was ill herself, then she broke her hip and went down from there. I was
basically a housekeeper, doing all the shopping, cooking and cleaning.
Paying medical bills and dealing with settling first his then her estates.
I wasn't paying attention to local politics, except to know Governor Mark
Sanford was screwing some chick in Argentina. So I'm terribly sorry, Dan,
but I don't *know* who the local politicians are. I won't vote a straight
ticket, Democratic or Republican, without having some sense of what they're
representing. It's not apathy. It's wanting to make an informed choice.
And I admit, I'm not informed. So I didn't vote for anyone.

Jill

On Nov 3, 4:33*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 1, 8:21 pm, NOYDB <ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
>
> >> > America) wrote:
> >> > >get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
> >> > >all food.
>
> >> > Vote the straight libertarian ticket. A pox on both their
> >> > houses!!!!
>
> >> I used to be a Libertarian. *Then I grew up and realized that
> >> most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
> >> thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.
>
> > Not just stupid, but I think apathy is big, also. *Just this morning
> > someone was boasting about how they weren't going to vote, because they
> > had just moved to the state. *Just moved? *How many years ago? *Can't
> > pick up the local paper for a few minutes and see who they are
> > recommending (or look at their web site if they don't want to pay for
> > the paper)? *They better not start posting here about corrupt local
> > politicians!
>
> > --
> > Dan Abel
> > Petaluma, California USA
> >
>
> If you want to talk about me, why not mention me by name? *I wasn't
> "boasting" about anything. *Picking up the local paper doesn't tell me
> anything. *Have you ever *read* the Beaufort Gazette? *Thirty pages about
> nothing! *And BTW, for two of those years I was rather busy dealing first
> with my father who had dementia and didn't even recognize me. *Second, my
> mother who, when he died was a complete mess (they were married 57 years)..
> She was ill herself, then she broke her hip and went down from there. *I was
> basically a housekeeper, doing all the shopping, cooking and cleaning.
> Paying medical bills and dealing with settling first his then her estates..
> I wasn't paying attention to local politics, except to know Governor Mark
> Sanford was screwing some chick in Argentina. *So I'm terribly sorry, Dan,
> but I don't *know* who the local politicians are. *I won't vote a straight
> ticket, Democratic or Republican, without having some sense of what they're
> representing. *It's not apathy. *It's wanting to make an informed choice.
> And I admit, I'm not informed. *So I didn't vote for anyone.

How could ANYONE not understand the positions of the Democratic and
Republican parties?
In general:

DEMS GOP

*pro-legal abortion *anti-legal abortion
*assume the poor need support *assume the poor are lazy
*believe in progressive taxation *believe in a flatter tax or
no income tax
at all
*allied with organized labor *hostile to organized labor
*believe in less privatization *believe in more
privatization
of government services of government services
*pro-social security, Medicare, *anti-social security,
Medicare,
Medicaid, childrens' health care Medicaid, childrens' health
care
*emphasize environmental *de-emphasize environmental
concerns concerns
*accused of being socialists *accused of being fascists
(a huge exaggeration) (a huge exaggeration)
*believe in more separation *believe in less separation
of church and state of church and state
*Keynesian economics *Classical economics


Is that enough? I tried being as objective in my language as
possible, to the point that I wrote something that I disagree with,
that being using the word "huge" for the Republicans as far as fascist
values. Republicans are more fascist than Democrats are Socialist.
It's not like any of this has changed in the past thirty years other
than to become more true. Have you been living under a rock that
entire time?
>
> Jill

--Bryan

On Nov 3, 4:33*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 1, 8:21 pm, NOYDB <ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
>
> >> > America) wrote:
> >> > >get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
> >> > >all food.
>
> >> > Vote the straight libertarian ticket. A pox on both their
> >> > houses!!!!
>
> >> I used to be a Libertarian. *Then I grew up and realized that
> >> most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
> >> thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.
>
> > Not just stupid, but I think apathy is big, also. *Just this morning
> > someone was boasting about how they weren't going to vote, because they
> > had just moved to the state. *Just moved? *How many years ago? *Can't
> > pick up the local paper for a few minutes and see who they are
> > recommending (or look at their web site if they don't want to pay for
> > the paper)? *They better not start posting here about corrupt local
> > politicians!
>
> > --
> > Dan Abel
> > Petaluma, California USA
> >
>
> If you want to talk about me, why not mention me by name? *I wasn't
> "boasting" about anything. *Picking up the local paper doesn't tell me
> anything. *Have you ever *read* the Beaufort Gazette? *Thirty pages about
> nothing! *And BTW, for two of those years I was rather busy dealing first
> with my father who had dementia and didn't even recognize me. *Second, my
> mother who, when he died was a complete mess (they were married 57 years)..
> She was ill herself, then she broke her hip and went down from there. *I was
> basically a housekeeper, doing all the shopping, cooking and cleaning.
> Paying medical bills and dealing with settling first his then her estates..
> I wasn't paying attention to local politics, except to know Governor Mark
> Sanford was screwing some chick in Argentina. *So I'm terribly sorry, Dan,
> but I don't *know* who the local politicians are. *I won't vote a straight
> ticket, Democratic or Republican, without having some sense of what they're
> representing. *It's not apathy. *It's wanting to make an informed choice.
> And I admit, I'm not informed. *So I didn't vote for anyone.
>
How could ANYONE not understand the positions of the Democratic and
Republican parties?
In general:

DEMS GOP

*pro-legal abortion *anti-legal abortion
*assume the poor need support *assume the poor are lazy
*believe in progressive taxation *believe in a flatter tax
or no income tax at
all
*allied with organized labor *hostile to organized labor
*believe in less privatization *believe in more privatization
of government services of government services
*pro-social security, Medicare, *anti-social security, Medicare,
Medicaid, childrens' health care Medicaid, childrens' health care
*emphasize environmental *de-emphasize environmental
concerns concerns
*accused of being socialists *accused of being fascists
(a huge exaggeration) (a huge exaggeration)
*believe in more separation *believe in less separation
of church and state of church and state
*Keynesian economics *Classical economics


Is that enough? I tried being as objective in my language as
possible, to the point that I wrote something that I disagree with,
that being using the word "huge" for the Republicans as far as
fascist
values. Republicans are more fascist than Democrats are Socialist.
It's not like any of this has changed in the past thirty years other
than to become more true. Have you been living under a rock that
entire time?

> Jill


--Bryan

On Nov 3, 4:33*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Dan Abel" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 1, 8:21 pm, NOYDB <ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
>
> >> > America) wrote:
> >> > >get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
> >> > >all food.
>
> >> > Vote the straight libertarian ticket. A pox on both their
> >> > houses!!!!
>
> >> I used to be a Libertarian. *Then I grew up and realized that
> >> most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
> >> thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.
>
> > Not just stupid, but I think apathy is big, also. *Just this morning
> > someone was boasting about how they weren't going to vote, because they
> > had just moved to the state. *Just moved? *How many years ago? *Can't
> > pick up the local paper for a few minutes and see who they are
> > recommending (or look at their web site if they don't want to pay for
> > the paper)? *They better not start posting here about corrupt local
> > politicians!
>
> > --
> > Dan Abel
> > Petaluma, California USA
> >
>
> If you want to talk about me, why not mention me by name? *I wasn't
> "boasting" about anything. *Picking up the local paper doesn't tell me
> anything. *Have you ever *read* the Beaufort Gazette? *Thirty pages about
> nothing! *And BTW, for two of those years I was rather busy dealing first
> with my father who had dementia and didn't even recognize me. *Second, my
> mother who, when he died was a complete mess (they were married 57 years)..
> She was ill herself, then she broke her hip and went down from there. *I was
> basically a housekeeper, doing all the shopping, cooking and cleaning.
> Paying medical bills and dealing with settling first his then her estates..
> I wasn't paying attention to local politics, except to know Governor Mark
> Sanford was screwing some chick in Argentina. *So I'm terribly sorry, Dan,
> but I don't *know* who the local politicians are. *I won't vote a straight
> ticket, Democratic or Republican, without having some sense of what they're
> representing. *It's not apathy. *It's wanting to make an informed choice.
> And I admit, I'm not informed. *So I didn't vote for anyone.
>
How could ANYONE not understand the positions of the Democratic and
Republican parties?
In general:

DEMS GOP

*pro-legal abortion *anti-legal abortion
*assume the poor need support *assume the poor are lazy
*believe in progressive taxation *believe in a flatter tax
or no income tax at all
*allied with organized labor *hostile to organized labor
*believe in less privatization *believe in more privatization
of government services of government services
*pro-social security, Medicare, *anti-social security, Medicare,
Medicaid, childrens' health care Medicaid, childrens' health care
*emphasize environmental *de-emphasize environmental
concerns concerns
*accused of being socialists *accused of being fascists
(a huge exaggeration) (a huge exaggeration)
*believe in more separation *believe in less separation
of church and state of church and state
*Keynesian economics *Classical economics


Is that enough? I tried being as objective in my language as
possible, to the point that I wrote something that I disagree with,
that being using the word "huge" for the Republicans as far as
fascist
values. Republicans are more fascist than Democrats are Socialist.
It's not like any of this has changed in the past thirty years other
than to become more true. Have you been living under a rock that
entire time?

> Jill


--Bryan

In article >,
"l, not -l" > wrote:

> On 2-Nov-2010, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
> > Can't
> > pick up the local paper for a few minutes and see who they are
> > recommending (or look at their web site if they don't want to pay for
> > the paper)?
>
> I'd rather someone not vote instead of base their vote on a newspaper's
> recommendation; that's as bad as blindly voting for whoever your union or
> church endorses. If a person can't invest an hour or two every couple of
> years to study the issues and candidate points-of-view (POV), they should go
> bowling or watch ESPN instead of voting. Certainly newspapers can be a
> source of information about the issues and candidates, as can candidate
> websites where positions on issues are posted and through non-partisan
> efforts such as those of the League of Women Voters.
>
> Learn, consider, decide; then, vote - blindly following another's
> recommendation is a fools way.

I agree with the "blind" part, but not the rest. Then again, maybe we
have newspapers here that I trust. I'm not happy with candidates'
positions here, they are all for motherhood and apple pie. I can't
argue with that, but since they are all for the same thing, I can't
choose based on that. Candidate mailers are worse. I'm supposed to
vote for them because they have a spouse and three cute kids? Because
they and their family have been here for a long time?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 21:25:51 GMT, "l, not -l" >
arranged random neurons and said:

>I'd rather someone not vote instead of base their vote on a newspaper's
>recommendation; that's as bad as blindly voting for whoever your union or
>church endorses. If a person can't invest an hour or two every couple of
>years to study the issues and candidate points-of-view (POV), they should go
>bowling or watch ESPN instead of voting. Certainly newspapers can be a
>source of information about the issues and candidates, as can candidate
>websites where positions on issues are posted and through non-partisan
>efforts such as those of the League of Women Voters.
>
>Learn, consider, decide; then, vote - blindly following another's
>recommendation is a fools way.

At least they're making a stab at being informed. I laboriously poured
over the propositions (in California's weird proposition-centric
ballot) and candidates. I didn't vote for those I knew nothing about
(most of the school board candidates and one of the judicial
candidates), but I had researched the other candidates or knew their
reputations. As to the propositions, you really have to read them
carefully, as they are often written to mislead <cough! emissions!
cough!> I was surprised to see so few people using their sample
ballot at the poll. I'd have been there half the day if I hadn't
brought my marked up sample with me.

I had sent my application for a permanent write in vote, but it must
have gotten lost in the ether, as it never showed up.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--

"If the soup had been as warm as the wine,
if the wine had been as old as the turkey,
and if the turkey had had a breast like the maid,
it would have been a swell dinner." Duncan Hines


To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

On Nov 2, 9:10*am, Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
> On Nov 1, 8:21*pm, NOYDB <ljlameres at acd.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:33:04 -0700, (Michael
>
> > America) wrote:
> > >get the democRATS out of there. they plan on taking over the ontrol of
> > >all food.
>
> > Vote the straight libertarian *ticket. A *pox *on both their
> > houses!!!!
>
> I used to be a Libertarian. *Then I grew up and realized that
> most people are too dumb to pour **** out of a boot, and
> thus cannot act from enlightened self-interest.

Very well said.

--Bryan