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While looking up the use of Concord grapes in wine, I ran across an
Italian wine -- now apparently banned -- made with American grapes
(Isabella), which gave it a strawberry flavor. Fragolino is now
apparently simulated with Vitis vinifera wine and strawberry flavor.

Does anyone know more about why the original wine was banned?
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> While looking up the use of Concord grapes in wine, I ran across an
> Italian wine -- now apparently banned -- made with American grapes
> (Isabella), which gave it a strawberry flavor. Fragolino is now
> apparently simulated with Vitis vinifera wine and strawberry flavor.
>
> Does anyone know more about why the original wine was banned?



http://www.science20.com/small_world...hind_fragolino

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Gene wrote on Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:38:15 -0700:


> "spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
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>> While looking up the use of Concord grapes in wine, I ran
>> across an Italian wine -- now apparently banned -- made with American
>> grapes (Isabella), which gave it a strawberry
>> flavor. Fragolino is now apparently simulated with Vitis
>> vinifera wine and strawberry flavor.
>>
>> Does anyone know more about why the original wine was banned?


> http://www.science20.com/small_world...hind_fragolino


> Google can be your freind.


> Ciao,


I read the article and the impression I get is that Europeans are
superstitious. Vitis vinifera is always grafted onto Vitis lambrusca
rootstocks but the growers are deathly afraid of the lambrusca-vinifera
hybrid that used to produce fragolino so they now flavor wines with
artificial strawberry to imitate fragoino.

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Il 28/09/2010 17:32, spamtrap1888 ha scritto:

> While looking up the use of Concord grapes in wine, I ran across an
> Italian wine -- now apparently banned -- made with American grapes
> (Isabella), which gave it a strawberry flavor. Fragolino is now
> apparently simulated with Vitis vinifera wine and strawberry flavor.
>
> Does anyone know more about why the original wine was banned?


The official lie, because that's what it is, was that grapes from Vitis
Labrusca produce too much methanol during the fermentation. Reality says
that the difference is so thin and so variable, with some vitis vinifera
grapes producing more methanol than some vitis labrusca grapes, that it
is a nonsense. The real reasons are thus left to speculation: maybe thet
wanted to protect traditions? I don't know, wines from v. labrusca
existed for many decades, maybe almost a century, in some areas such as
Veneto, where the Clintòn wine (wrong accent on the american name
Clinton) was famous and widespread decades ago. Wine regulations are
almost always the effect of a good idea badly worded and even more badly
carried out.
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On Sep 28, 9:38*am, "Gene" > wrote:
> "spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
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> ...
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> > While looking up the use of Concord grapes in wine, I ran across an
> > Italian wine -- now apparently banned -- made with American grapes
> > (Isabella), which gave it a strawberry flavor. Fragolino is now
> > apparently simulated with Vitis vinifera wine and strawberry flavor.

>
> > Does anyone know more about why the original wine was banned?

>
> http://www.science20.com/small_world...he_mystery_beh...
>
> Google can be your freind.
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> Ciao,
>
> gene


Nothing like an on-the-spot report from an Italian.


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> While looking up the use of Concord grapes in wine, I ran across an
> Italian wine -- now apparently banned -- made with American grapes
> (Isabella), which gave it a strawberry flavor. Fragolino is now
> apparently simulated with Vitis vinifera wine and strawberry flavor.
>
> Does anyone know more about why the original wine was banned?


It isn't banned per se, they just have to call it a drink (bibita) and not
wine (vino). I read an explanation, but don't recall what it was.


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Giusi wrote:

>> Does anyone know more about why the original wine was banned?


> It isn't banned per se, they just have to call it a drink (bibita)
> and not wine (vino). I read an explanation, but don't recall what it
> was.


Wine made with vitis labrusca grapes is banned. What is sold as fragoliono
is made with vitis vinifera grapes, then they add a strawberry flavoring to
imitate fragolino and this excludes the product by the commercial cathegory
"wine", so you read "strawberry flavored alcoholic drink".
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