Jinx wrote:

> First of all, the data on your site is comprised of relatively old data
> from 2002 and 2003, and is based on data gathered from routine health
> examinations only. Notice how all the countries on your list are highly
> industrialized countries with higher standards of living and access to
> healthcare than other countries. There's not one developing country on
> the list. In India as in other developing countries, access to
> healthcare, especially for routine health examinations, is not readily
> available. If you don't have people going in for routine well-checkups,
> you're not going to have data.
>
> Secondly, your extremely limited experience and observation of Indian
> people in *Texas* is hardly representative of Indians in general, and more
> specifically Indians in India. And the fact that you use that observation
> to back up your claim is laughable.

She's succumbed to the voices in her head just like her buddy Pussy. There's
no point in presenting facts; it would only confuse her even further.

There's also the little issue of typical Indian lifespan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy

Heart disease and diabetes are rampant in India, both of which can be blamed
on the Indian diet. It is *not* healthy. (Tasty, true, but not healthy.)

Bob

Bob Terwilliger > wrote:
>Heart disease and diabetes are rampant in India, both of which can be blamed
>on the Indian diet. It is *not* healthy. (Tasty, true, but not healthy.)

Every diet has the potential to be healthy or unhealthy depending on how much
of certain foods people eat. Not all Indians eat lots of fried food, ghee,
sweets, dairy or animal products. Some are vegans, while most do not prepare
meat at home in order to keep their living spaces "unpolluted". Most Indians
still subsist on staples such as rice and daal, hardly the catalysts for heart
disease or diabetes.

Orlando

Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:

> Every diet has the potential to be healthy or unhealthy depending on how much
> of certain foods people eat. Not all Indians eat lots of fried food, ghee,
> sweets, dairy or animal products. Some are vegans, while most do not prepare
> meat at home in order to keep their living spaces "unpolluted". Most Indians
> still subsist on staples such as rice and daal, hardly the catalysts for heart
> disease or diabetes.
>
> Orlando

Are you speaking from experience knowing Indians *in* India, or Indians
who live in the US?

Goomba > wrote:
>Are you speaking from experience knowing Indians *in* India, or Indians
>who live in the US?

Both. I've been around Indians for much of my life, given my musical passions.
I also spent ten months in India, studying Hindustani classical music on a
research grant from the American Institute of Indian Studies.

Orlando

"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote in message
...
> Jinx wrote:
>
>> First of all, the data on your site is comprised of relatively old data
>> from 2002 and 2003, and is based on data gathered from routine health
>> examinations only. Notice how all the countries on your list are highly
>> industrialized countries with higher standards of living and access to
>> healthcare than other countries. There's not one developing country on
>> the list. In India as in other developing countries, access to
>> healthcare, especially for routine health examinations, is not readily
>> available. If you don't have people going in for routine well-checkups,
>> you're not going to have data.
>>
>> Secondly, your extremely limited experience and observation of Indian
>> people in *Texas* is hardly representative of Indians in general, and
>> more
>> specifically Indians in India. And the fact that you use that
>> observation
>> to back up your claim is laughable.
>
> She's succumbed to the voices in her head just like her buddy Pussy.
> There's
> no point in presenting facts; it would only confuse her even further.
>
> There's also the little issue of typical Indian lifespan.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy
>
> Heart disease and diabetes are rampant in India, both of which can be
> blamed
> on the Indian diet. It is *not* healthy. (Tasty, true, but not healthy.)

I have to say though that when I lived in India (around 15 years ago) most
people were skinny.
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"Ophelia" > wrote in
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> I have to say though that when I lived in India (around 15
> years ago) most people were skinny.

The situation 15 years ago was considerably different. Diets are
changing due to fast food outlets and this is given as a primary
cause in the increase in obesity in India and China.

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"Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in
> :
>
>> I have to say though that when I lived in India (around 15
>> years ago) most people were skinny.
>
> The situation 15 years ago was considerably different. Diets are
> changing due to fast food outlets and this is given as a primary
> cause in the increase in obesity in India and China.

Yes this is true. There were some fast food outlets when I was the
McDonalds and TGIF. I am quite sure that the street people coudn't afford
to eat there though

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"Ophelia" > wrote in
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> Yes this is true. There were some fast food outlets when I
> was the McDonalds and TGIF. I am quite sure that the
> street people coudn't afford to eat there though

But generally, these societies are becoming more affluent as they
have more growth potential than the West. If as many as 20% of
Indians are now considered obese, that is an indicator that there
is more wealth out there. How it is used is not the issue,
economically speaking.

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"Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Ophelia" > wrote in
> :
>
>> Yes this is true. There were some fast food outlets when I
>> was the McDonalds and TGIF. I am quite sure that the
>> street people coudn't afford to eat there though
>
> But generally, these societies are becoming more affluent as they
> have more growth potential than the West. If as many as 20% of
> Indians are now considered obese, that is an indicator that there
> is more wealth out there. How it is used is not the issue,
> economically speaking.

Oh there always has been wealth, it just doesn't filter down to the street
people.

"I am quite sure that the
>> street people coudn't afford to eat there though"

I didn't mention the obese people eating in hotels and dripping with
jewellry, who sneer at the poor and 'the untouchables'
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"Ophelia" > wrote in
:

>> But generally, these societies are becoming more affluent as
>> they have more growth potential than the West. If as many as
>> 20% of Indians are now considered obese, that is an indicator
>> that there is more wealth out there. How it is used is not
>> the issue, economically speaking.
>
> Oh there always has been wealth, it just doesn't filter down
> to the street people.

It is filtering down more than before.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6257057.stm

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