Here is the wikipedia take on tomato, where it was 'discovered' and
rediscovered several times throughout the world. The tomato, truly a
gift from the 'Gods', there wouldn't be anything to eat if not for the
queen of fruits! Here, Here! to the tomato!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato

History

The tomato is native to South America. Genetic evidence shows that the
progenitors of tomatoes were herbaceous green plants with small green
fruit with a center of diversity in the highlands of Peru.[3][4] One
species, Solanum lycopersicum, was transported to Mexico where it was
grown and consumed by prehistoric humans. The exact date of
domestication is not known. The first domesticated tomato may have been
a little yellow fruit, similar in size to Cherry tomatoes,[citation
needed] grown by the Aztecs of Central Mexico. Aztec writings mention
tomatoes were prepared with peppers, corn and salt[citation needed].
Many historians[who?] believe that the Spanish explorer Cortez may have
been the first to transfer the small yellow tomato to Europe after he
captured the Aztec city of Tenochtítlan, now Mexico City in 1521.
Others[who?] believe Christopher Columbus, an Italian working for the
Spanish monarchy, was the first European to take back the tomato, as
early as 1493. The earliest discussion of the tomato in European
literature appeared in a herbal written in 1544 by Pietro Andrea
Mattioli, an Italian physician and botanist, who named it pomo d’oro,
golden apple.

Aztecs and other peoples in the region used the fruit in their cooking;
it was being cultivated in southern Mexico and probably other areas by
500BC. It is thought that the Pueblo people believed that those who
witnessed the ingestion of tomato seeds were blessed with powers of
divination.[5] The large, lumpy tomato, a mutation from a smoother,
smaller fruit, originated in Mesoamerica, and may be direct ancestor of
some modern cultivated tomatoes.[4]
Spanish distribution

After the Spanish colonization of the Americas, the Spanish distributed
the tomato throughout their colonies in the Caribbean. They also took it
to the Philippines, from where it spread to southeast Asia and then the
entire Asian continent. The Spanish also brought the tomato to Europe.
It grew easily in Mediterranean climates, and cultivation began in the
1540s. It was probably eaten shortly after it was introduced, and was
certainly being used as food by the early 1600s in Spain. The earliest
discovered cookbook with tomato recipes was published in Naples in 1692,
though the author had apparently obtained these recipes from Spanish
sources[citation needed]. However, in certain areas of Italy, such as
Florence, the fruit was used solely as tabletop decoration before it was
incorporated into the local cuisine in the late 17th or early 18th
century...
more at; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato

--
piedmont, The Practical BBQ'r

http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/

"piedmont" > wrote in message
...
> Here is the wikipedia take on tomato, where it was 'discovered' and
> rediscovered several times throughout the world. The tomato, truly a gift
> from the 'Gods', there wouldn't be anything to eat if not for the queen of
> fruits! Here, Here! to the tomato!!

The Queen Mother of which is the homegrown backyard variety.

Steve

On Jan 26, 5:29*am, piedmont > wrote:
> Here is the wikipedia take on tomato, where it was 'discovered' and
> rediscovered several times throughout the world. The tomato, truly a
> gift from the 'Gods', there wouldn't be anything to eat if not for the
> queen of fruits! Here, Here! to the tomato!!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato
>
> History
>
> The tomato is native to South America. Genetic evidence shows that the
> progenitors of tomatoes were herbaceous green plants with small green
> fruit with a center of diversity in the highlands of Peru.[3][4] One
> species, Solanum lycopersicum, was transported to Mexico where it was
> grown and consumed by prehistoric humans. The exact date of
> domestication is not known. The first domesticated tomato may have been
> a little yellow fruit, similar in size to Cherry tomatoes,[citation
> needed] grown by the Aztecs of Central Mexico. Aztec writings mention
> tomatoes were prepared with peppers, corn and salt[citation needed].
> Many historians[who?] believe that the Spanish explorer Cortez may have
> been the first to transfer the small yellow tomato to Europe after he
> captured the Aztec city of Tenocht tlan, now Mexico City in 1521.
> Others[who?] believe Christopher Columbus, an Italian working for the
> Spanish monarchy, was the first European to take back the tomato, as
> early as 1493. The earliest discussion of the tomato in European
> literature appeared in a herbal written in 1544 by Pietro Andrea
> Mattioli, an Italian physician and botanist, who named it pomo d oro,
> golden apple.
>
> Aztecs and other peoples in the region used the fruit in their cooking;
> it was being cultivated in southern Mexico and probably other areas by
> 500BC. It is thought that the Pueblo people believed that those who
> witnessed the ingestion of tomato seeds were blessed with powers of
> divination.[5] The large, lumpy tomato, a mutation from a smoother,
> smaller fruit, originated in Mesoamerica, and may be direct ancestor of
> some modern cultivated tomatoes.[4]
> Spanish distribution
>
> After the Spanish colonization of the Americas, the Spanish distributed
> the tomato throughout their colonies in the Caribbean. They also took it
> to the Philippines, from where it spread to southeast Asia and then the
> entire Asian continent. The Spanish also brought the tomato to Europe.
> It grew easily in Mediterranean climates, and cultivation began in the
> 1540s. It was probably eaten shortly after it was introduced, and was
> certainly being used as food by the early 1600s in Spain. The earliest
> discovered cookbook with tomato recipes was published in Naples in 1692,
> though the author had apparently obtained these recipes from Spanish
> sources[citation needed]. However, in certain areas of Italy, such as
> Florence, the fruit was used solely as tabletop decoration before it was
> incorporated into the local cuisine in the late 17th or early 18th
> century...
> more at;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato
>
> --
> piedmont, The Practical BBQ'r
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/

Amazing that a plant that originated in the highlands of Peru now goes
to 'blight' in cool damp climates.

Around here homegrown tomatoes are always a gamble...getting them to
ripen before cool and damp weather kills them.

About every other year we have a "tomato Summer" where you don't need
plastic tarps or greenhouses to ripen your tomato crop. "Early
Girl" varieties can usually give you some decent fruit.

I live in the Pacific Northwest near the Canadian border, BTW.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:29:35 -0500, piedmont wrote:

> Here is the wikipedia take on tomato, where it was 'discovered' and
> rediscovered several times throughout the world.

I lived near Reynoldsburgh Ohio and their claim to fame was
"Birthplace of the Tomato", like it was invented there or something.

But yeah, we can read Wiki if we need know about it.

-sw

On 1/26/2010 1:31 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Jan 26, 5:29 am, > wrote:
>> Here is the wikipedia take on tomato, where it was 'discovered' and
snip
>> more at;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato
>>
>> --
>> piedmont, The Practical BBQ'r
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/
>
> Amazing that a plant that originated in the highlands of Peru now goes
> to 'blight' in cool damp climates.
>
> Around here homegrown tomatoes are always a gamble...getting them to
> ripen before cool and damp weather kills them.
>
> About every other year we have a "tomato Summer" where you don't need
> plastic tarps or greenhouses to ripen your tomato crop. "Early
> Girl" varieties can usually give you some decent fruit.
>
> I live in the Pacific Northwest near the Canadian border, BTW.

That says alot! he, he , yes, a bit damp and cool! lol


--
piedmont, The Practical BBQ'r

http://sites.google.com/site/thepracticalbbqr/

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:31:47 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>I live in the Pacific Northwest near the Canadian border, BTW.

Isn't it awful? I'm in San Francisco and have the same problem. My
backyard is too windy and foggy for tomatoes... even the one called
San Francisco Fog.

My brother lives in the coastal mountains of Oregon... moved up there
from San Diego. He can't grow very much of what he grew down there
outside, so he's set up a big indoor garden in a barn. I can only
imagine what it's costing him in electricity bills.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Jan 26, 2:41*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:31:47 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>
> > wrote:
> >I live in the Pacific Northwest near the Canadian border, BTW.
>
> Isn't it awful? *I'm in San Francisco and have the same problem. *My
> backyard is too windy and foggy for tomatoes... even the one called
> San Francisco Fog. *
>
> My brother lives in the coastal mountains of Oregon... moved up there
> from San Diego. *He can't grow very much of what he grew down there
> outside, so he's set up a big indoor garden in a barn. *I can only
> imagine what it's costing him in electricity bills.
>
> --
> I love cooking with wine.
> Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Indoor garden in a barn.....electricity bills.........I don't think
he's growing tomatoes ;-)

On Jan 26, 6:00*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
> On Jan 26, 2:41*pm, sf > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:31:47 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>
> > > wrote:
> > >I live in the Pacific Northwest near the Canadian border, BTW.
>
> > Isn't it awful? *I'm in San Francisco and have the same problem. *My
> > backyard is too windy and foggy for tomatoes... even the one called
> > San Francisco Fog. *
>
> > My brother lives in the coastal mountains of Oregon... moved up there
> > from San Diego. *He can't grow very much of what he grew down there
> > outside, so he's set up a big indoor garden in a barn. *I can only
> > imagine what it's costing him in electricity bills.
>
> > --
> > I love cooking with wine.
> > Sometimes I even put it in the food.
>
> Indoor garden in a barn.....electricity bills.........I don't think
> he's growing tomatoes *;-)

Actually, you can grow THAT "in the coastal mountains of Oregon."

--Bryan

On Jan 26, 6:28*pm, Food Snob® > wrote:
> On Jan 26, 6:00*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 26, 2:41*pm, sf > wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:31:47 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >I live in the Pacific Northwest near the Canadian border, BTW.
>
> > > Isn't it awful? *I'm in San Francisco and have the same problem. *My
> > > backyard is too windy and foggy for tomatoes... even the one called
> > > San Francisco Fog. *
>
> > > My brother lives in the coastal mountains of Oregon... moved up there
> > > from San Diego. *He can't grow very much of what he grew down there
> > > outside, so he's set up a big indoor garden in a barn. *I can only
> > > imagine what it's costing him in electricity bills.
>
> > > --
> > > I love cooking with wine.
> > > Sometimes I even put it in the food.
>
> > Indoor garden in a barn.....electricity bills.........I don't think
> > he's growing tomatoes *;-)
>
> Actually, you can grow THAT "in the coastal mountains of Oregon."
>
> --Bryan

They grow a lot of "that" around here as well ;-)

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:00:14 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>Indoor garden in a barn.....electricity bills.........I don't think
>he's growing tomatoes ;-)

I've seen tomatoes growing on the vine in there, so it's not all herb.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Jan 26, 8:45*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
> On Jan 26, 6:28*pm, Food Snob® > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 26, 6:00*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 26, 2:41*pm, sf > wrote:
>
> > > > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:31:47 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >I live in the Pacific Northwest near the Canadian border, BTW.
>
> > > > Isn't it awful? *I'm in San Francisco and have the same problem. *My
> > > > backyard is too windy and foggy for tomatoes... even the one called
> > > > San Francisco Fog. *
>
> > > > My brother lives in the coastal mountains of Oregon... moved up there
> > > > from San Diego. *He can't grow very much of what he grew down there
> > > > outside, so he's set up a big indoor garden in a barn. *I can only
> > > > imagine what it's costing him in electricity bills.
>
> > > > --
> > > > I love cooking with wine.
> > > > Sometimes I even put it in the food.
>
> > > Indoor garden in a barn.....electricity bills.........I don't think
> > > he's growing tomatoes *;-)
>
> > Actually, you can grow THAT "in the coastal mountains of Oregon."
>
> > --Bryan
>
> They grow a lot of "that" around here as well *;-)

In the area of wilderness that we like toi go camping there is this
woman who owns a canoe rental store. She thinks that the black
helicopters that fly around are the United Nations, and that they want
to relocate the locals into "camps near St. Louis," and turn the area
into "a biosphere," whatever that means. In reality, those
helicopters are DEA, looking for marijuana patches. Luckily, we have
never run across any because I've heard that the growers can get
violent. I wish they'd just legalize it, and put the criminals out of
business.

We call the canoe rental owner, "The Black Helicopter Lady."

--Bryan

On Jan 26, 2:41 pm, sf > wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:31:47 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>
> > wrote:
> >I live in the Pacific Northwest near the Canadian border, BTW.
>
> Isn't it awful? I'm in San Francisco and have the same problem. My
> backyard is too windy and foggy for tomatoes... even the one called
> San Francisco Fog. [snip]

This thread reminds me of the days when the seed catalogs would all
arrive in January. All those brilliant colorful pictures to salivate
over in the middle of winter. I suppose that still happens, but
nowadays you can go to a website like burpees.com at any time..... -
aem