>(Zspider) writes:
>
>I like homemade bread but I don't like all the work involved.
>My mother-in-law loaned her bread machine to me and I like it
>a lot. Clean-up is easier and a lot of the labor is handled
>by the machine.
>
>But there are trade-offs. Although it offers differing settings
>for different types of bread and how dark I want the outside,
>these are generic settings with no option for me to adjust them
>exactly to my liking.
>
>For example, for a small loaf of white bread, a light setting
>for the crust is still a little darker than I would like it.
>If I catch it before it's finished baking, I can stop it
>about 5 minutes ahead of time and it's perfect, but there is
>no way for me to program in a bake time of 5 minutes less.
>
>I believe the machine is set with two rise times, but there's
>no option for me to custom-select the length of the rise.
>From the way it bakes whole wheat bread, I think I'd like to
>allow a bit longer for the rise cycles. No way of doing this
>either.
>
>Are there any bread machines that include options for programming
>my own rise and bake cycles?

Yes, you!

ABM's are a great convenience but are not intended for custom baking beyond a
few rough settings. And nothing is preventing you from using the machine to
make the dough and then bake it conventionally. If you want bread a particular
way then prepare it entirely by hand, especially if what you want is the same
quantity of bread capable of an ABM.... I really don't see any big deal in hand
kneading/forming one stinkin' loaf... whaddaya want, a machine that eats it for
you too. Hey, let me know if you find one with big tits! LOL


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(Zspider) wrote in message . com>...
> I like homemade bread but I don't like all the work involved.
> My mother-in-law loaned her bread machine to me and I like it
> a lot. Clean-up is easier and a lot of the labor is handled
> by the machine.
>
> But there are trade-offs. Although it offers differing settings
> for different types of bread and how dark I want the outside,
> these are generic settings with no option for me to adjust them
> exactly to my liking.
>
> For example, for a small loaf of white bread, a light setting
> for the crust is still a little darker than I would like it.
> If I catch it before it's finished baking, I can stop it
> about 5 minutes ahead of time and it's perfect, but there is
> no way for me to program in a bake time of 5 minutes less.
>
> I believe the machine is set with two rise times, but there's
> no option for me to custom-select the length of the rise.
> From the way it bakes whole wheat bread, I think I'd like to
> allow a bit longer for the rise cycles. No way of doing this
> either.
>
> Are there any bread machines that include options for programming
> my own rise and bake cycles?
>
> Thank you, Michael

Dear Michael,

I am having a problem with my challah recipe for the breadmachine not
cooking all the way through. It's a little doughy at the top inner
crust. How do you know if the way to fix this is extra time in the
last rise, or increasing the crust color to Medium instead of Light?
You sound like you know what you're doing. By the way, my Breadman
machine (which I got at Sears about a year ago) allows you to have 5
personalized bread recipes, to set the times any way you want. What
type of machine does your mother-in-law have? I had a Hitachi for 10
years, it must have made 5200 loaves over the ten years but I had to
get rid of it, the teflon was all worn off, and to replace the pan was
I think, about $60 from the manufacturer. So hence the new machine
which was around $110 and well worth it.

vanmomzie

(Zspider) wrote in message . com>...
> I like homemade bread but I don't like all the work involved.
> My mother-in-law loaned her bread machine to me and I like it
> a lot. Clean-up is easier and a lot of the labor is handled
> by the machine.
>
> But there are trade-offs. Although it offers differing settings
> for different types of bread and how dark I want the outside,
> these are generic settings with no option for me to adjust them
> exactly to my liking.
>
> For example, for a small loaf of white bread, a light setting
> for the crust is still a little darker than I would like it.
> If I catch it before it's finished baking, I can stop it
> about 5 minutes ahead of time and it's perfect, but there is
> no way for me to program in a bake time of 5 minutes less.
>
> I believe the machine is set with two rise times, but there's
> no option for me to custom-select the length of the rise.
> From the way it bakes whole wheat bread, I think I'd like to
> allow a bit longer for the rise cycles. No way of doing this
> either.
>
> Are there any bread machines that include options for programming
> my own rise and bake cycles?
>
> Thank you, Michael

Dear Michael,

I am having a problem with my challah recipe for the breadmachine not
cooking all the way through. It's a little doughy at the top inner
crust. How do you know if the way to fix this is extra time in the
last rise, or increasing the crust color to Medium instead of Light?
You sound like you know what you're doing. By the way, my Breadman
machine (which I got at Sears about a year ago) allows you to have 5
personalized bread recipes, to set the times any way you want. What
type of machine does your mother-in-law have? I had a Hitachi for 10
years, it must have made 5200 loaves over the ten years but I had to
get rid of it, the teflon was all worn off, and to replace the pan was
I think, about $60 from the manufacturer. So hence the new machine
which was around $110 and well worth it.

vanmomzie

vanmomzie wrote:
> I am having a problem with my challah recipe for the breadmachine not
> cooking all the way through. It's a little doughy at the top inner
> crust. How do you know if the way to fix this is extra time in the
> last rise, or increasing the crust color to Medium instead of Light?
> You sound like you know what you're doing. By the way, my Breadman
> machine (which I got at Sears about a year ago) allows you to have 5
> personalized bread recipes, to set the times any way you want. What
> type of machine does your mother-in-law have? I had a Hitachi for 10
> years, it must have made 5200 loaves over the ten years but I had to
> get rid of it, the teflon was all worn off, and to replace the pan was
> I think, about $60 from the manufacturer. So hence the new machine
> which was around $110 and well worth it.

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Thank you for the suggestion of the Breadman machine from Sears. I'll
take a look at them this evening if I get the time. My mother-in-law's
is an Oster. I don't see a particular model name beyond the brand.
And I didn't mean to imply that I know what I'm doing! I'm just a
beginner. I mentioned a longer rise time on the whole wheat bread
because I read in the manual that whole wheat is a little more stubborn
about rising, and the bread I'm getting out is sorta tough and chewy.
It sounds to me like you aren't getting a long enough bake time on
your challah. An adjustment in the rise time wouldn't help the doughy
problem, would it?

Again, thank you for posting.

Michael