"Jenn" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> Mike1 > wrote:
>
> > john > wrote:
> > > MTV > wrote:
> > >
> > >>opportunity to get ahead. That may be outdated, but it struck me last
night
> > >>that until the 1950's most people had no health insurance at all.
> > >
> > >So what am I to deduce from that statement? That the health care needs
> > >of all the people in the country was adequately taken care of during
> > >that period?
> >
> >
> > Since when do the alleged "needs" of anybody for anything constitute a
> > moral demand upon another's property?
>
>
> since when is the wealth of individuals in the US the result of their
> individual virtue and effort and not the great good luck of where they
> were born and into what systems they were plugged? Show me a computer
> programmer whose skills would be worth diddly without the social system
> he has happily inherited? Personal effort and competence is part of the
> success of each of us -- but I have seen people who work much harder
> than most of us do and are just as smart living in squalid conditions in
> the third world. We all owe to the society that has made our lives so
> fat and easy.

Why do we owe you for being "fat and easy" Jenn?