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![]() "MAYA" > wrote in message ... > Hi > > Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive > oil? I bought two liters at a sale. > -- > > MAYA EVOO is a wonderful flavoring agent and is excellent is salads and other "cold" oil uses. It also makes a very good dip for rustic breads ( no wonder bread please). It is also wonderful for general sautéing and frying just be sure not to burn the oil see below. Dimitri Smoke Point of Various Oils and Fats Type of Oil or Fat - RefinedSmoke Point Cooking Methods Avocado Oil 520ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil Safflower Oil 510ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Almond Oil 495ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Soybean Oil 450ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Corn Oil450ºF Sauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Sunflower Oil 450ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Peanut Oil 450ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Cottonseed Oil 420ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil Sesame Seed Oil (Light) 410ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Olive Oil 410ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Grape Seed Oil 400ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Canola Oil 400ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Deep-fry, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Walnut Oil 400ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil Lard 375ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Baking Vegetable Shortening 325ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Baking Butter 300ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Grill, Broil, Baking Type of Oil or Fat - UnrefinedSmoke Point Cooking Methods Sesame Seed Oil 350ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Olive Oil (Extra Virgin or Virgin) 320ºFSauté, Pan-fry, Sear, Stir-fry, Grill, Broil, Baking Peanut Oil 320ºFLight sauté, Low-heat grilling, Low-heat baking Soybean Oil3 20ºFLight sauté, Low-heat grilling, Low-heat baking Corn Oil 320ºFLight sauté, Low-heat grilling, Low-heat baking Walnut Oil 320ºFLight sauté, Low-heat grilling, Low-heat baking Sunflower Oil 225ºFBlend it with oils with higher smoke points for low heat cooking Canola Oil 225ºFBlend it with oils with higher smoke points for low heat cooking Safflower Oil 225ºFBlend it with oils with higher smoke points for low heat cooking |
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>Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive
>oil? I bought two liters at a sale. > >MAYA There are none... extra virgins are eaten au jus. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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![]() "PENMART01" > wrote in message ... > >Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive >>oil? I bought two liters at a sale. >> >>MAYA > > There are none... extra virgins are eaten au jus. You are talking about girls, not oil... Luca --- Nolite proicere margaritas ad porcos |
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![]() "PENMART01" > wrote in message ... > >Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive >>oil? I bought two liters at a sale. >> >>MAYA > > There are none... extra virgins are eaten au jus. You are talking about girls, not oil... Luca --- Nolite proicere margaritas ad porcos |
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MAYA wrote:
> Hi > > Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin > olive oil? I bought two liters at a sale. Bruschetta? Spaghetti aglio olio e peperoncino? Cheers Luca --- Nolite proicere margaritas ad porcos |
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MAYA > wrote in message >...
> Hi > > Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive > oil? I bought two liters at a sale. > -- > > MAYA > Flavor a couple quarts - with garlic or other herbs - refrigerate - that will use some of it up, and it comes in very handy for things like salad dressings and bread dips. I use XV for everything I use olive oil for, but I think it's best when one can appreciate the flavor of it without too much doctoring up. N. |
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![]() "Nancy Dooley" > wrote in message om... > MAYA > wrote in message > >... >> Hi >> >> Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive >> oil? I bought two liters at a sale. >> -- >> >> MAYA >> > Flavor a couple quarts - with garlic or other herbs - refrigerate - > that will use some of it up, and it comes in very handy for things > like salad dressings and bread dips. Not good advice. Dimitri Botulism What causes botulism? Botulism is caused by the organism Clostridium botulinum, a spore-forming bacteria. Spores release a toxin that caused the illness. Although widely spread throughout our environment, botulism spores only become dangerous after producing a toxin in an oxygen-free environment of low acidity. Botulism food poisoning is very rare, but it can be life-threatening. Botulism may result from eating improperly processed, low-acid foods such as green beans, mush-rooms, spinach, olives and beef or fish. Improper home canning methods account for many botulism cases. But, improperly processed commercial products can cause botulism too. How can botulism be destroyed? Spores are highly resistant to destruction. They can survive hours of boiling at 212° F (100° C). Pressure cooking at 240° F (120° C) for 30 minutes can kill spores. The toxin (not the spores) is readily destroyed by boiling at 212° F (100° C) for 10 minutes or heating to 176° F (80° C) for 30 minutes. How do I avoid botulism risks? Use only proper methods for canning low-acid foods. Follow directions for home canning exactly. Avoid commercially canned low-acid foods with leaky seals or deep dents in the seams of the can. Avoid all bent, bulging or broken cans. Discard any food that explodes from a can when it is being opened. If canned food contents spray across the kitchen or hit the ceiling when the can is being opened, it is potentially dangerous. Never, never taste a suspicious food product. Don't count on cooking to kill the botulism spores. When in doubt, throw it out. (Don't give it to pets either!) Not even a taste: foods to avoid! Avoid tasting canned food that is soft, deteriorating, fermenting, or doesn't smell right. Even a taste is enough to cause illness. Throw the food away: It is not worth a life-threatening illness. Never taste suspicious foods for any reason. > I use XV for everything I use olive oil for, but I think it's best > when one can appreciate the flavor of it without too much doctoring > up. > > N. |
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"Dimitri" > wrote in message
m... > > "Nancy Dooley" > wrote in message > om... > > MAYA > wrote in message > > >... > >> Hi > >> > >> Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive > >> oil? I bought two liters at a sale. > >> -- > >> > >> MAYA > >> > > Flavor a couple quarts - with garlic or other herbs - refrigerate - > > that will use some of it up, and it comes in very handy for things > > like salad dressings and bread dips. > > > Not good advice. > > Dimitri > > Botulism <snipped> I know that steeping herbs in oils is *theoretically* a growing medium for botulism, but have there been any documented cases? Of course refrigerating should make the process perfectly safe, but even unrefrigerated I have never heard of a single case of poisoning. Is this yet another case where people read about some theoretical danger and start running around flapping their hands in the air when in fact the danger is miniscule or nonexistent? So - any documented cases? If so, I want to know about them. If not, well..... -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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![]() "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message om... > "Dimitri" > wrote in message > m... >> >> "Nancy Dooley" > wrote in message >> om... >> > MAYA > wrote in message >> > >... >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin > olive >> >> oil? I bought two liters at a sale. >> >> -- >> >> >> >> MAYA >> >> >> > Flavor a couple quarts - with garlic or other herbs - refrigerate - >> > that will use some of it up, and it comes in very handy for things >> > like salad dressings and bread dips. >> >> >> Not good advice. >> >> Dimitri >> >> Botulism > > <snipped> > > I know that steeping herbs in oils is *theoretically* a growing medium for > botulism, but have there been any documented cases? Of course > refrigerating > should make the process perfectly safe, but even unrefrigerated I have > never > heard of a single case of poisoning. Is this yet another case where people > read about some theoretical danger and start running around flapping their > hands in the air when in fact the danger is miniscule or nonexistent? > > So - any documented cases? If so, I want to know about them. If not, > well..... > > > -- > Peter Aitken http://www.ochef.com/272.htm http://vt.essortment.com/garlicuses_rsuz.htm http://www.ivillage.com/home/howtogu...ival_freqCap=2 Dimitri |
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"Dimitri" > wrote in message
m... > > "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message > om... > > "Dimitri" > wrote in message > > m... > >> > >> "Nancy Dooley" > wrote in message > >> om... > >> > MAYA > wrote in message > >> > >... > >> >> Hi > >> >> > >> >> Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin > > olive > >> >> oil? I bought two liters at a sale. > >> >> -- > >> >> > >> >> MAYA > >> >> > >> > Flavor a couple quarts - with garlic or other herbs - refrigerate - > >> > that will use some of it up, and it comes in very handy for things > >> > like salad dressings and bread dips. > >> > >> > >> Not good advice. > >> > >> Dimitri > >> > >> Botulism > > > > <snipped> > > > > I know that steeping herbs in oils is *theoretically* a growing medium for > > botulism, but have there been any documented cases? Of course > > refrigerating > > should make the process perfectly safe, but even unrefrigerated I have > > never > > heard of a single case of poisoning. Is this yet another case where people > > read about some theoretical danger and start running around flapping their > > hands in the air when in fact the danger is miniscule or nonexistent? > > > > So - any documented cases? If so, I want to know about them. If not, > > well..... > > > > > > -- > > Peter Aitken > > http://www.ochef.com/272.htm > http://vt.essortment.com/garlicuses_rsuz.htm > http://www.ivillage.com/home/howtogu...ival_freqCap=2 > > Dimitri > > C'mon Dimitri, give me a break. Not a single one of your links had the remotest sign of a documented case of botulism from infusing oil with garlic or herbs - just more of the fact-free hand-waving about the supposed dangers. If you cannot do better, fine, but don;t waste my time with this garbage. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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![]() "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message om... > "Dimitri" > wrote in message > m... >> >> "Nancy Dooley" > wrote in message >> om... >> > MAYA > wrote in message >> > >... >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin > olive >> >> oil? I bought two liters at a sale. >> >> -- >> >> >> >> MAYA >> >> >> > Flavor a couple quarts - with garlic or other herbs - refrigerate - >> > that will use some of it up, and it comes in very handy for things >> > like salad dressings and bread dips. >> >> >> Not good advice. >> >> Dimitri >> >> Botulism > > <snipped> > > I know that steeping herbs in oils is *theoretically* a growing medium for > botulism, but have there been any documented cases? Of course > refrigerating > should make the process perfectly safe, but even unrefrigerated I have > never > heard of a single case of poisoning. Is this yet another case where people > read about some theoretical danger and start running around flapping their > hands in the air when in fact the danger is miniscule or nonexistent? > > So - any documented cases? If so, I want to know about them. If not, > well..... > > > -- > Peter Aitken http://www.ochef.com/272.htm http://vt.essortment.com/garlicuses_rsuz.htm http://www.ivillage.com/home/howtogu...ival_freqCap=2 Dimitri |
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![]() > Flavor a couple quarts - with garlic or other herbs - refrigerate - > that will use some of it up, and it comes in very handy for things > like salad dressings and bread dips. > I recall some articles that said NOT to flavor oil w/garlic. Botulism. Leave that to the professionals. |
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:34:38 GMT, "Kswck" > wrote:
> > >> Flavor a couple quarts - with garlic or other herbs - refrigerate - >> that will use some of it up, and it comes in very handy for things >> like salad dressings and bread dips. >> > >I recall some articles that said NOT to flavor oil w/garlic. Botulism. Leave >that to the professionals. > Ahem. She *did* say "refrigerate". Nathalie in Switzerland |
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:34:38 GMT, "Kswck" > wrote:
> > >> Flavor a couple quarts - with garlic or other herbs - refrigerate - >> that will use some of it up, and it comes in very handy for things >> like salad dressings and bread dips. >> > >I recall some articles that said NOT to flavor oil w/garlic. Botulism. Leave >that to the professionals. > Ahem. She *did* say "refrigerate". Nathalie in Switzerland |
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![]() "MAYA" > wrote in message ... > Hi > > Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive > oil? I bought two liters at a sale. > -- > Not for use in a dish that needs to be cooked. Best in a dressing, oil & vinegar, dipping oil, etc. |
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On 2004-09-29, Kswck > wrote:
> Not for use in a dish that needs to be cooked. > Best in a dressing, oil & vinegar, dipping oil, etc. Nonsense. Evoo is just fine for cooked foods. I've even used it for pan frying. Naturally, it's kinda silly to spend the extra money for EV, but if you got deal, why not? Besides, is it premium evoo, or just regular evoo? Evoo just means first pressed, not necessarily high quality. nb |
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"notbob" > wrote in message
news:tgH6d.73382$wV.9932@attbi_s54... > On 2004-09-29, Kswck > wrote: > > > Not for use in a dish that needs to be cooked. > > Best in a dressing, oil & vinegar, dipping oil, etc. > > Nonsense. Evoo is just fine for cooked foods. I've even used it for pan > frying. Naturally, it's kinda silly to spend the extra money for EV, but if > you got deal, why not? Besides, is it premium evoo, or just regular evoo? > Evoo just means first pressed, not necessarily high quality. > > nb Agreed. Much EVOO does not have much of a taste and is not at all expensive - it's fine for cooking. I wouldn't use a $45/pint Tuscan oil to pan fry my chicken, but I sure will use a $18/gallon Greek EVOO. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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![]() "MAYA" > wrote in message ... > Hi > > Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive > oil? I bought two liters at a sale. > -- Also perhaps to flavor yourself w/fresh rosemary or some ground red pepper to use in salads. |
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![]() "MAYA" > wrote in message ... > Hi > > Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive > oil? I bought two liters at a sale. Extra virgin olive oil is all that I use. I save the oil I like the flavor of the most for salads, bread, seasoning, etc. The extra virgin oil that I like less, I use for all other cooking uses where olive oil is appropriate. The cost of extra virgin is not that much more than lower quality oils and the flavor is better (usually). Of course some extra virgin olive oil is *much* more expensive and that I save for special uses. Charlie |
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Charles Gifford wrote:
> "MAYA" > wrote in message > ... > >>Hi >> >>Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive >>oil? I bought two liters at a sale. > > > Extra virgin olive oil is all that I use. I save the oil I like the flavor > of the most for salads, bread, seasoning, etc. The extra virgin oil that I > like less, I use for all other cooking uses where olive oil is appropriate. > The cost of extra virgin is not that much more than lower quality oils and > the flavor is better (usually). Of course some extra virgin olive oil is > *much* more expensive and that I save for special uses. > > Charlie > > EVOO has a lower smoking point than regular olive oil. It's a waste of money to use the good stuff, with its great nuances, and waste it all on cooking it. It's like taking caviar, and boiling it for hours. For deep frying or regular pan frying, corn oil is pretty good. Lard is the best, but many are scared of it because it's animal fat. The cost of good quality fruity EVOO is much higher than the mediocre stuff; unless you are buying the crap they sell at the stupidmarket. Goya EVOO is the best for the prices; packs quite a fruity punch. Rich -- "Dum Spiro, Spero." As long as I breath, I hope. Cicero (Ancient Rome) ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Let there be fish!!! |
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![]() "Richard Periut" > wrote in message ... > > > EVOO has a lower smoking point than regular olive oil. It's a waste of > money to use the good stuff, with its great nuances, and waste it all on > cooking it. It's like taking caviar, and boiling it for hours. > > For deep frying or regular pan frying, corn oil is pretty good. Lard is > the best, but many are scared of it because it's animal fat. > > The cost of good quality fruity EVOO is much higher than the mediocre > stuff; unless you are buying the crap they sell at the stupidmarket. > > Goya EVOO is the best for the prices; packs quite a fruity punch. > > Rich Thank you for sharing your personal opinion. Charlie |
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>"Charles Gifford" writes:
> >"Richard Periut" wrote: >> >> Goya EVOO is the best for the prices; packs quite a fruity punch. > >Thank you for sharing your personal opinion. I wonder how he means "packs quite a fruity punch"... does he mean two fisted or limp wristed. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Charles Gifford wrote:
> "MAYA" > wrote in message > ... > >>Hi >> >>Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive >>oil? I bought two liters at a sale. > > > Extra virgin olive oil is all that I use. I save the oil I like the flavor > of the most for salads, bread, seasoning, etc. The extra virgin oil that I > like less, I use for all other cooking uses where olive oil is appropriate. > The cost of extra virgin is not that much more than lower quality oils and > the flavor is better (usually). Of course some extra virgin olive oil is > *much* more expensive and that I save for special uses. > > Charlie > > EVOO has a lower smoking point than regular olive oil. It's a waste of money to use the good stuff, with its great nuances, and waste it all on cooking it. It's like taking caviar, and boiling it for hours. For deep frying or regular pan frying, corn oil is pretty good. Lard is the best, but many are scared of it because it's animal fat. The cost of good quality fruity EVOO is much higher than the mediocre stuff; unless you are buying the crap they sell at the stupidmarket. Goya EVOO is the best for the prices; packs quite a fruity punch. Rich -- "Dum Spiro, Spero." As long as I breath, I hope. Cicero (Ancient Rome) ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Let there be fish!!! |
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MAYA wrote:
> Hi > > Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin > olive oil? I bought two liters at a sale. Bruschetta? Spaghetti aglio olio e peperoncino? Cheers Luca --- Nolite proicere margaritas ad porcos |
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![]() "MAYA" > wrote in message ... > Hi > > Can anyone suggest some recipes that specifically use extra-virgin olive > oil? I bought two liters at a sale. > -- Also perhaps to flavor yourself w/fresh rosemary or some ground red pepper to use in salads. |
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