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Kompu Kid 25-09-2004 04:01 AM

Cooking pasta without draining the water
 
Hello All:

I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
discussions on this.

A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:

- Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
- Bring the mix to a boil.
- Then simmer until water is gone.

The process is much like cooking rice.

He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.

He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
saying.

Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?

Deguza

Michael Odom 25-09-2004 05:04 AM

On 24 Sep 2004 20:01:29 -0700, (Kompu Kid) wrote:

>Hello All:
>
>I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>discussions on this.
>
>A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>
>- Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>- Bring the mix to a boil.
>- Then simmer until water is gone.
>
>The process is much like cooking rice.
>
>He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>
>He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>saying.
>
>Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
>

Nope. Not I, but my mother cooks rice like pasta. Boils and drains
it, that is.


modom

"Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
-- Jimmie Dale Gilmore

zxcvbob 25-09-2004 05:11 AM

Kompu Kid wrote:

> Hello All:
>
> I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
> discussions on this.
>
> A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>
> - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
> - Bring the mix to a boil.
> - Then simmer until water is gone.
>
> The process is much like cooking rice.
>
> He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
> suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>
> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
> saying.
>
> Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
>
> Deguza



It will be sticky if you do that because starch will dissolve in the
water and then thicken up as you boil the water away. But it will be OK
if you're gonna use a starchy or cheese-based sauce where the extra
starch will just mix into the sauce. Don't try to boil away all the
water; cook until the pasta is done and the water is almost gone, then
add the overly-thick sauce and let the cooking water thin it out.

It's not a very good method, but it works for making skillet casseroles.

Bob

notbob 25-09-2004 07:30 AM

On 2004-09-25, Kompu Kid > wrote:

> He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
> suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.


Either he's lying to you or you're lying to us. It's all bullshit!

nb ...nobull

Luca Pinotti 25-09-2004 07:41 AM

"Michael Odom" > wrote in message
...
> On 24 Sep 2004 20:01:29 -0700, (Kompu Kid) wrote:
>
>>Hello All:
>>
>>I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>>discussions on this.
>>
>>A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>>


NO! Don't do that.
Please...

Luca



Bob (this one) 25-09-2004 10:48 AM

Kompu Kid wrote:

> Hello All:
>
> I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
> discussions on this.
>
> A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>
> - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
> - Bring the mix to a boil.
> - Then simmer until water is gone.
>
> The process is much like cooking rice.
>
> He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
> suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>
> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
> saying.


He's doing that famous Italian thing called "tirare la gamba."
(tee-rah-reh la gahm-bah) means to tug on a lower limb hoping you will
actually do this dumb thing so he can point and laugh at you. In the
nicest possible way, as only a friend can.

Pastorio (Pahs-tor-ee-oh)



Luca Pinotti 25-09-2004 11:06 AM

Bob (this one) wrote:
> Kompu Kid wrote:
>
>> Hello All:
>>
>> I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>> discussions on this.
>>
>> A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking
>> pasta: - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>> - Bring the mix to a boil.
>> - Then simmer until water is gone.
>>
>> The process is much like cooking rice.
>>
>> He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>> suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>>
>> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>> saying.

>
> He's doing that famous Italian thing called "tirare la gamba."
> (tee-rah-reh la gahm-bah) means to tug on a lower limb hoping you will
> actually do this dumb thing so he can point and laugh at you. In the
> nicest possible way, as only a friend can.


Hey, Bob,
do you know that this means to die? It's Lobardy dialect.
You will extend your legs fully and finally only in a coffin... ;-)
I wish you will do it as far as possible.





Bob (this one) 25-09-2004 11:10 AM

Luca Pinotti wrote:

> Bob (this one) wrote:
>
>>Kompu Kid wrote:
>>
>>>Hello All:
>>>
>>>I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>>>discussions on this.
>>>
>>>A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking
>>>pasta: - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>>>- Bring the mix to a boil.
>>>- Then simmer until water is gone.
>>>
>>>The process is much like cooking rice.
>>>
>>>He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>>>suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>>>
>>>He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>>>saying.

>>
>>He's doing that famous Italian thing called "tirare la gamba."
>>(tee-rah-reh la gahm-bah) means to tug on a lower limb hoping you will
>>actually do this dumb thing so he can point and laugh at you. In the
>>nicest possible way, as only a friend can.

>
> Hey, Bob,
> do you know that this means to die? It's Lobardy dialect.
> You will extend your legs fully and finally only in a coffin... ;-)
> I wish you will do it as far as possible.


In English it means to play a joke (fare un scherzo) on someone.

I like the English better...

Pastorio


Luca Pinotti 25-09-2004 11:19 AM

"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
...
> Luca Pinotti wrote:
>
>> Bob (this one) wrote:
>>
>>>Kompu Kid wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello All:
>>>>
>>>>I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>>>>discussions on this.
>>>>
>>>>A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking
>>>>pasta: - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>>>>- Bring the mix to a boil.
>>>>- Then simmer until water is gone.
>>>>
>>>>The process is much like cooking rice.
>>>>
>>>>He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>>>>suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>>>>
>>>>He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>>>>saying.
>>>
>>>He's doing that famous Italian thing called "tirare la gamba."
>>>(tee-rah-reh la gahm-bah) means to tug on a lower limb hoping you will
>>>actually do this dumb thing so he can point and laugh at you. In the
>>>nicest possible way, as only a friend can.

>>
>> Hey, Bob,
>> do you know that this means to die? It's Lobardy dialect.
>> You will extend your legs fully and finally only in a coffin... ;-)
>> I wish you will do it as far as possible.

>
> In English it means to play a joke (fare un scherzo) on someone.
>
> I like the English better...


(fare unO scherzo)

You bad bguddy ;-)




Luca Pinotti 25-09-2004 11:19 AM

"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
...
> Luca Pinotti wrote:
>
>> Bob (this one) wrote:
>>
>>>Kompu Kid wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello All:
>>>>
>>>>I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>>>>discussions on this.
>>>>
>>>>A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking
>>>>pasta: - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>>>>- Bring the mix to a boil.
>>>>- Then simmer until water is gone.
>>>>
>>>>The process is much like cooking rice.
>>>>
>>>>He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>>>>suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>>>>
>>>>He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>>>>saying.
>>>
>>>He's doing that famous Italian thing called "tirare la gamba."
>>>(tee-rah-reh la gahm-bah) means to tug on a lower limb hoping you will
>>>actually do this dumb thing so he can point and laugh at you. In the
>>>nicest possible way, as only a friend can.

>>
>> Hey, Bob,
>> do you know that this means to die? It's Lobardy dialect.
>> You will extend your legs fully and finally only in a coffin... ;-)
>> I wish you will do it as far as possible.

>
> In English it means to play a joke (fare un scherzo) on someone.
>
> I like the English better...


(fare unO scherzo)

You bad bguddy ;-)




Luca Pinotti 25-09-2004 11:19 AM

"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
...
> Luca Pinotti wrote:
>
>> Bob (this one) wrote:
>>
>>>Kompu Kid wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello All:
>>>>
>>>>I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>>>>discussions on this.
>>>>
>>>>A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking
>>>>pasta: - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>>>>- Bring the mix to a boil.
>>>>- Then simmer until water is gone.
>>>>
>>>>The process is much like cooking rice.
>>>>
>>>>He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>>>>suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>>>>
>>>>He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>>>>saying.
>>>
>>>He's doing that famous Italian thing called "tirare la gamba."
>>>(tee-rah-reh la gahm-bah) means to tug on a lower limb hoping you will
>>>actually do this dumb thing so he can point and laugh at you. In the
>>>nicest possible way, as only a friend can.

>>
>> Hey, Bob,
>> do you know that this means to die? It's Lobardy dialect.
>> You will extend your legs fully and finally only in a coffin... ;-)
>> I wish you will do it as far as possible.

>
> In English it means to play a joke (fare un scherzo) on someone.
>
> I like the English better...


(fare unO scherzo)

You bad bguddy ;-)




Melba's Jammin' 25-09-2004 02:32 PM

In article >,
(Kompu Kid) wrote:
>
> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
> saying.


Don't bet on it.
>
> Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
> Deguza


Sounds like Rice-a-roni Noodles Parmesan or something. Or a Hamburger
Helper recipe. If I'm cooking short macaroni (shells or elbow macs), I
have been known to bring the pot of water to a boil (3 quarts or so) and
dump the mac in, give it a stir, and take it off the heat, cover it and
let it sit for 10 minutes or so before coming back to drain it and use
it.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 9-22-04; Fairs Fare tab.
"Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power."
-Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn.


Melba's Jammin' 25-09-2004 02:32 PM

In article >,
(Kompu Kid) wrote:
>
> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
> saying.


Don't bet on it.
>
> Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
> Deguza


Sounds like Rice-a-roni Noodles Parmesan or something. Or a Hamburger
Helper recipe. If I'm cooking short macaroni (shells or elbow macs), I
have been known to bring the pot of water to a boil (3 quarts or so) and
dump the mac in, give it a stir, and take it off the heat, cover it and
let it sit for 10 minutes or so before coming back to drain it and use
it.
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 9-22-04; Fairs Fare tab.
"Peace will come when the power of love overcomes the love of power."
-Jimi Hendrix, and Lt. Joe Corcoran, Retired; St. Paul PD, Homicide Divn.


Jack Schidt® 25-09-2004 02:35 PM


"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
...
> Kompu Kid wrote:
>
>> Hello All:
>>
>> I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>> discussions on this.
>>
>> A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>>
>> - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>> - Bring the mix to a boil.
>> - Then simmer until water is gone.
>>
>> The process is much like cooking rice.
>>
>> He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>> suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>>
>> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>> saying.

>
> He's doing that famous Italian thing called "tirare la gamba."
> (tee-rah-reh la gahm-bah) means to tug on a lower limb hoping you will
> actually do this dumb thing so he can point and laugh at you. In the
> nicest possible way, as only a friend can.
>
> Pastorio (Pahs-tor-ee-oh)
>
>


Haha!

Jack Leg (not to be confused with Jake Leg)



Jack Schidt® 25-09-2004 02:35 PM


"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
...
> Kompu Kid wrote:
>
>> Hello All:
>>
>> I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>> discussions on this.
>>
>> A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>>
>> - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>> - Bring the mix to a boil.
>> - Then simmer until water is gone.
>>
>> The process is much like cooking rice.
>>
>> He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>> suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>>
>> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>> saying.

>
> He's doing that famous Italian thing called "tirare la gamba."
> (tee-rah-reh la gahm-bah) means to tug on a lower limb hoping you will
> actually do this dumb thing so he can point and laugh at you. In the
> nicest possible way, as only a friend can.
>
> Pastorio (Pahs-tor-ee-oh)
>
>


Haha!

Jack Leg (not to be confused with Jake Leg)



Wayne 25-09-2004 03:29 PM

"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in news:iue5d.10573$Qv5.1754
@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:

>
> Haha!
>
> Jack Leg (not to be confused with Jake Leg)
>
>


Ha, I haven't heard anyone refer to Jake Leg since I was a kid. Takes me
way back.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

unmunge as w-e-b

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Wayne 25-09-2004 03:29 PM

"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in news:iue5d.10573$Qv5.1754
@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:

>
> Haha!
>
> Jack Leg (not to be confused with Jake Leg)
>
>


Ha, I haven't heard anyone refer to Jake Leg since I was a kid. Takes me
way back.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

unmunge as w-e-b

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Wayne 25-09-2004 03:29 PM

"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in news:iue5d.10573$Qv5.1754
@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:

>
> Haha!
>
> Jack Leg (not to be confused with Jake Leg)
>
>


Ha, I haven't heard anyone refer to Jake Leg since I was a kid. Takes me
way back.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

unmunge as w-e-b

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Peter Aitken 25-09-2004 03:42 PM

"Kompu Kid" > wrote in message
om...
> Hello All:
>
> I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
> discussions on this.
>
> A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>
> - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
> - Bring the mix to a boil.
> - Then simmer until water is gone.
>
> The process is much like cooking rice.
>
> He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
> suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>
> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
> saying.
>
> Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
>
> Deguza


Have you ever noticed all the starch in the water that you drain off after
cooking pasta? With your friend's method, guess where all that starch ends
up?


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.



Peter Aitken 25-09-2004 03:42 PM

"Kompu Kid" > wrote in message
om...
> Hello All:
>
> I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
> discussions on this.
>
> A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>
> - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
> - Bring the mix to a boil.
> - Then simmer until water is gone.
>
> The process is much like cooking rice.
>
> He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
> suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>
> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
> saying.
>
> Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
>
> Deguza


Have you ever noticed all the starch in the water that you drain off after
cooking pasta? With your friend's method, guess where all that starch ends
up?


--
Peter Aitken

Remove the crap from my email address before using.



jmcquown 25-09-2004 04:06 PM

Kompu Kid wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
> discussions on this.
>
> A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>
> - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
> - Bring the mix to a boil.
> - Then simmer until water is gone.
>
> The process is much like cooking rice.
>
> He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
> suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>
> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
> saying.
>
> Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
>
> Deguza


Your friend is nuts. You may let pasta *stand* in the hot water off the
heat to finish cooking, but do not cook the water away like you are cooking
rice. That's simply insane.

Jill



jmcquown 25-09-2004 04:06 PM

Kompu Kid wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
> discussions on this.
>
> A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>
> - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
> - Bring the mix to a boil.
> - Then simmer until water is gone.
>
> The process is much like cooking rice.
>
> He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
> suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>
> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
> saying.
>
> Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
>
> Deguza


Your friend is nuts. You may let pasta *stand* in the hot water off the
heat to finish cooking, but do not cook the water away like you are cooking
rice. That's simply insane.

Jill



PENMART01 25-09-2004 04:11 PM

> "Peter Aitken" writes:
>
>"Kompu Kid" wrote:
>>
>> A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>>
>> - Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>> - Bring the mix to a boil.
>> - Then simmer until water is gone.
>>
>> The process is much like cooking rice.
>>
>> He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>> saying.


So what... the vast majority of successful restaurants are owned/operated by
people who can't cook.

>Have you ever noticed all the starch in the water that you drain off after
>cooking pasta? With your friend's method, guess where all that starch ends
>up?


I often cook rizo (rice-like pasta) with rice, half n' half. Tuns out perfect
every time, much prefered by most to plain rice. I use the same amount of
water as for plain rice but I also add butter and/or oil, and sauted veggies,
kind of a pilaf. Were I to try say plain spaghetti by that method I imagine
the result a solid gluey clump, probably badly burned on the bottom... exactly
the kind of cookery as done by those who are too proud dagos... if yoose gotta
play the WOP card to gain crediblity then in actuality yoose a low-life with
low self-esteem issues.


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Jack Schidt® 25-09-2004 05:04 PM


"Wayne" > wrote in message
...
> "Jack Schidt®" > wrote in news:iue5d.10573$Qv5.1754
> @newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
>
>>
>> Haha!
>>
>> Jack Leg (not to be confused with Jake Leg)
>>
>>

>
> Ha, I haven't heard anyone refer to Jake Leg since I was a kid. Takes me
> way back.
>
> --


Check out this site for some Jake Leg tunes:
http://www.ibiblio.org/moonshine/drink/jakesongs.html

Jack Moonshine



Jack Schidt® 25-09-2004 05:04 PM


"Wayne" > wrote in message
...
> "Jack Schidt®" > wrote in news:iue5d.10573$Qv5.1754
> @newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
>
>>
>> Haha!
>>
>> Jack Leg (not to be confused with Jake Leg)
>>
>>

>
> Ha, I haven't heard anyone refer to Jake Leg since I was a kid. Takes me
> way back.
>
> --


Check out this site for some Jake Leg tunes:
http://www.ibiblio.org/moonshine/drink/jakesongs.html

Jack Moonshine



Wayne 25-09-2004 05:21 PM

"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in
m:

>
> "Wayne" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Jack Schidt®" > wrote in
>> news:iue5d.10573$Qv5.1754 @newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
>>
>>>
>>> Haha!
>>>
>>> Jack Leg (not to be confused with Jake Leg)
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Ha, I haven't heard anyone refer to Jake Leg since I was a kid.
>> Takes me way back.
>>
>> --

>
> Check out this site for some Jake Leg tunes:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/moonshine/drink/jakesongs.html
>
> Jack Moonshine
>
>


Oh, Jack, that's too funny!

--
Wayne in Phoenix

unmunge as w-e-b

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Wayne 25-09-2004 05:21 PM

"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in
m:

>
> "Wayne" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Jack Schidt®" > wrote in
>> news:iue5d.10573$Qv5.1754 @newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
>>
>>>
>>> Haha!
>>>
>>> Jack Leg (not to be confused with Jake Leg)
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Ha, I haven't heard anyone refer to Jake Leg since I was a kid.
>> Takes me way back.
>>
>> --

>
> Check out this site for some Jake Leg tunes:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/moonshine/drink/jakesongs.html
>
> Jack Moonshine
>
>


Oh, Jack, that's too funny!

--
Wayne in Phoenix

unmunge as w-e-b

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

Felice Friese 25-09-2004 05:48 PM


"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in message
m...
>
> Check out this site for some Jake Leg tunes:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/moonshine/drink/jakesongs.html
>
> Jack Moonshine


Fantastic! What I can't understand is why, at an Advanced Old Age and with a
mother from an Old Southern Family, I never ever heard of jakeleg. Maybe we
were too genteel. But I DO remember downing "grain and grape juice" in my
misspent youth.

Felice



Wayne 25-09-2004 05:55 PM

"Felice Friese" > wrote in
news:bjh5d.259013$mD.65463@attbi_s02:

>
> "Jack Schidt®" > wrote in message
> m...
>>
>> Check out this site for some Jake Leg tunes:
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/moonshine/drink/jakesongs.html
>>
>> Jack Moonshine

>
> Fantastic! What I can't understand is why, at an Advanced Old Age and
> with a mother from an Old Southern Family, I never ever heard of
> jakeleg. Maybe we were too genteel. But I DO remember downing "grain
> and grape juice" in my misspent youth.
>
> Felice


Heh, my mother was also from an Old Southern Family, and genteel to boot,
but there was still occasional talk about some town ne'er-do-well who had
developed jake-leg after getting some bad moonshine. It was a very small
town, and people (genteel or not) loved tot alk.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

unmunge as w-e-b

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

zxcvbob 25-09-2004 06:16 PM

Wayne wrote:
> "Felice Friese" > wrote in
> news:bjh5d.259013$mD.65463@attbi_s02:
>
>
>>"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in message
. com...
>>
>>>Check out this site for some Jake Leg tunes:
>>>http://www.ibiblio.org/moonshine/drink/jakesongs.html
>>>
>>>Jack Moonshine

>>
>>Fantastic! What I can't understand is why, at an Advanced Old Age and
>>with a mother from an Old Southern Family, I never ever heard of
>>jakeleg. Maybe we were too genteel. But I DO remember downing "grain
>>and grape juice" in my misspent youth.
>>
>>Felice

>
>
> Heh, my mother was also from an Old Southern Family, and genteel to boot,
> but there was still occasional talk about some town ne'er-do-well who had
> developed jake-leg after getting some bad moonshine. It was a very small
> town, and people (genteel or not) loved tot alk.
>



"Jake-leg" was a very specific problem during Prohibition caused by
triorthocresyl phosphate added to a patent medicine called Jamaican
Ginger. It's not something you would get from bad moonshine -- at least
not since about 60 or 70 years ago.

They were probably talking about someone who was too drunk to walk and
used the term incorrectly.

I just learned about this today. Thanks Jack for bringing it up.

Best regards,
Bob

zxcvbob 25-09-2004 06:16 PM

Wayne wrote:
> "Felice Friese" > wrote in
> news:bjh5d.259013$mD.65463@attbi_s02:
>
>
>>"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in message
. com...
>>
>>>Check out this site for some Jake Leg tunes:
>>>http://www.ibiblio.org/moonshine/drink/jakesongs.html
>>>
>>>Jack Moonshine

>>
>>Fantastic! What I can't understand is why, at an Advanced Old Age and
>>with a mother from an Old Southern Family, I never ever heard of
>>jakeleg. Maybe we were too genteel. But I DO remember downing "grain
>>and grape juice" in my misspent youth.
>>
>>Felice

>
>
> Heh, my mother was also from an Old Southern Family, and genteel to boot,
> but there was still occasional talk about some town ne'er-do-well who had
> developed jake-leg after getting some bad moonshine. It was a very small
> town, and people (genteel or not) loved tot alk.
>



"Jake-leg" was a very specific problem during Prohibition caused by
triorthocresyl phosphate added to a patent medicine called Jamaican
Ginger. It's not something you would get from bad moonshine -- at least
not since about 60 or 70 years ago.

They were probably talking about someone who was too drunk to walk and
used the term incorrectly.

I just learned about this today. Thanks Jack for bringing it up.

Best regards,
Bob

zxcvbob 25-09-2004 06:16 PM

Wayne wrote:
> "Felice Friese" > wrote in
> news:bjh5d.259013$mD.65463@attbi_s02:
>
>
>>"Jack Schidt®" > wrote in message
. com...
>>
>>>Check out this site for some Jake Leg tunes:
>>>http://www.ibiblio.org/moonshine/drink/jakesongs.html
>>>
>>>Jack Moonshine

>>
>>Fantastic! What I can't understand is why, at an Advanced Old Age and
>>with a mother from an Old Southern Family, I never ever heard of
>>jakeleg. Maybe we were too genteel. But I DO remember downing "grain
>>and grape juice" in my misspent youth.
>>
>>Felice

>
>
> Heh, my mother was also from an Old Southern Family, and genteel to boot,
> but there was still occasional talk about some town ne'er-do-well who had
> developed jake-leg after getting some bad moonshine. It was a very small
> town, and people (genteel or not) loved tot alk.
>



"Jake-leg" was a very specific problem during Prohibition caused by
triorthocresyl phosphate added to a patent medicine called Jamaican
Ginger. It's not something you would get from bad moonshine -- at least
not since about 60 or 70 years ago.

They were probably talking about someone who was too drunk to walk and
used the term incorrectly.

I just learned about this today. Thanks Jack for bringing it up.

Best regards,
Bob

Nathalie Chiva 25-09-2004 07:39 PM

On 24 Sep 2004 20:01:29 -0700, (Kompu Kid) wrote:

>Hello All:
>
>I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>discussions on this.
>
>A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>
>- Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>- Bring the mix to a boil.
>- Then simmer until water is gone.
>
>The process is much like cooking rice.
>
>He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>
>He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>saying.
>
>Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
>
>Deguza


No, but I have tried and liked a recipe (Italian, BTW) where pasta was
cooked in its sauce. I can't remember exactly, but it was like, fry
pasta in oil with a bit of onion, add passata di pomodoro, herbs,
salt, pepper, some water, cook down. If I can find that recipe, i'll
post it.

Nathalie in Switzerland


Nathalie Chiva 25-09-2004 07:39 PM

On 24 Sep 2004 20:01:29 -0700, (Kompu Kid) wrote:

>Hello All:
>
>I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>discussions on this.
>
>A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>
>- Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>- Bring the mix to a boil.
>- Then simmer until water is gone.
>
>The process is much like cooking rice.
>
>He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>
>He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>saying.
>
>Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
>
>Deguza


No, but I have tried and liked a recipe (Italian, BTW) where pasta was
cooked in its sauce. I can't remember exactly, but it was like, fry
pasta in oil with a bit of onion, add passata di pomodoro, herbs,
salt, pepper, some water, cook down. If I can find that recipe, i'll
post it.

Nathalie in Switzerland


Nathalie Chiva 25-09-2004 07:39 PM

On 24 Sep 2004 20:01:29 -0700, (Kompu Kid) wrote:

>Hello All:
>
>I looked in the archives of this newsgroup but could not find any
>discussions on this.
>
>A friend of mine says that there is an alternate way of cooking pasta:
>
>- Put enough water in a pot. Add pasta and salt.
>- Bring the mix to a boil.
>- Then simmer until water is gone.
>
>The process is much like cooking rice.
>
>He could not give me the amount of water needed off hand, but
>suggested that I start with a 1 to 1 ratio.
>
>He operates an Italian restaurant so I assume he knows what he is
>saying.
>
>Has anybody else run into cooking pasta this way?
>
>Deguza


No, but I have tried and liked a recipe (Italian, BTW) where pasta was
cooked in its sauce. I can't remember exactly, but it was like, fry
pasta in oil with a bit of onion, add passata di pomodoro, herbs,
salt, pepper, some water, cook down. If I can find that recipe, i'll
post it.

Nathalie in Switzerland


Curly Sue 25-09-2004 08:33 PM

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:16:07 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>
>"Jake-leg" was a very specific problem during Prohibition caused by
>triorthocresyl phosphate added to a patent medicine called Jamaican
>Ginger. It's not something you would get from bad moonshine -- at least
>not since about 60 or 70 years ago.


I've wondered for a long time *why* the TOCP ended up in a batch of
Ginger Jake. This stuff has even been a contaminant in other
beverages (not in the US) in the past 10 yr..

After reading these rfc posts I did another web search and got a
couple of different clues on the "why"/"how," still nothing definitive
except that it was intentional (in the Jake instance).

Also, thanks Jack for the refernce to the song!

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

zxcvbob 25-09-2004 09:12 PM

Curly Sue wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:16:07 -0500, zxcvbob >
> wrote:
>
>
>>"Jake-leg" was a very specific problem during Prohibition caused by
>>triorthocresyl phosphate added to a patent medicine called Jamaican
>>Ginger. It's not something you would get from bad moonshine -- at least
>>not since about 60 or 70 years ago.

>
>
> I've wondered for a long time *why* the TOCP ended up in a batch of
> Ginger Jake. This stuff has even been a contaminant in other
> beverages (not in the US) in the past 10 yr..
>
> After reading these rfc posts I did another web search and got a
> couple of different clues on the "why"/"how," still nothing definitive
> except that it was intentional (in the Jake instance).
>
> Also, thanks Jack for the refernce to the song!
>



Ain't topic drift wonderful? (well... sometimes, anyway)

Bob

zxcvbob 25-09-2004 09:12 PM

Curly Sue wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:16:07 -0500, zxcvbob >
> wrote:
>
>
>>"Jake-leg" was a very specific problem during Prohibition caused by
>>triorthocresyl phosphate added to a patent medicine called Jamaican
>>Ginger. It's not something you would get from bad moonshine -- at least
>>not since about 60 or 70 years ago.

>
>
> I've wondered for a long time *why* the TOCP ended up in a batch of
> Ginger Jake. This stuff has even been a contaminant in other
> beverages (not in the US) in the past 10 yr..
>
> After reading these rfc posts I did another web search and got a
> couple of different clues on the "why"/"how," still nothing definitive
> except that it was intentional (in the Jake instance).
>
> Also, thanks Jack for the refernce to the song!
>



Ain't topic drift wonderful? (well... sometimes, anyway)

Bob

joannie 25-09-2004 09:47 PM

what a disappointment! i thought this was a cooking NG. not a bunch of
folks making insulting and racist remarks. Dago? not too nice. you
all need to grow up a bit..........


joannie 25-09-2004 09:47 PM

what a disappointment! i thought this was a cooking NG. not a bunch of
folks making insulting and racist remarks. Dago? not too nice. you
all need to grow up a bit..........



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